Inspiered by LOTR, kept my hafling rogue at a low lvl, so that he does not become a fucked up assassin, jumping off rooftops.
I think you are missing the roleplaying factor. I really enjoy playing a naive and annoying litle thief, stealing things and giving the blame to my allies.
But if you don't like haflings, nerf them in your campaigns, I guess.
@LawrenceKramer Hmm, I haven't seen much about them as monks. The fact they'd do less damage might chase most players away.
I've had 2 people play them in my 3x line games & a few more in 2nd but they are not a highly played race in game I run. I might have played one in 2nd but not since.
I've rarely met anyone who plays halflings or gnomes. Even dwarf characters are rare in the games I've played in. But then, I'm one of those people who doesn't understand why everyone doesn't want to play an elf (or at least half-elf) character. So go figure.
I always pictured them as little humans but yeah, I would never play one. I almost exclusively play elves, and pretty much every character I have played thus far has been a decedent of a clan called Duskwalker. Long lineage and a lot of story but thats what makes it fun, right?
@CthulhuDarkLord Sure, you absolutely need a a lot of backstory to make the characters interesting & give the GM something to work with. I've only recently come back around on elves. I went through about 15 years of totally not being able to stand them, I'd seen so many played abominably.
@woodwwad It's all in the character though, not just the race. Elves, like humans can be very diverse, but do have some degree of racial similarities. My characters were always proud, and very protective of their families honor, which was besmirched by the actions of an ancestor. Basically a deal with Asmodeus cursed ALL MEMBERS of the clan Duskwalker, future and past to wander the earth after death. After a great favor to the God Adonai agreed to repay Asmodeus and free the clan.
I always pictured halflings to be almost perfectly proportioned small humans, almost like someone with primordial dwarfism. With little pot bellies ^.^
@woodwwad I had forgotten what they looked like. Lol yeah Frodo looks fairly close to the image I have, minus the childlike thing. It's interesting how varied each person's image is of different fantasy type creatures and races.
@daniel154 HBK would clearly be a gold elf. He's actually not a small guy, well over 200lbs, IRL, not just billed weight, Rey is really tiny, cannot stand him. Thought him beat a guy like Scott Norton was a top 5 worst moment on Nitro & it took a lot to get on that list. I've never really played a crossbowman. I might give it a try at some point.
Hah, I still prefer the idea of a messed up Gnome rather than Halfling. Haha, I have it! A gnome necromancer! Oh man, I could make him be freaky and wear an oriental hat and carry a strange little monster around in a box.
Or perhaps some sort of fucked up Gnome puppet master, who is very defensive of his puppets! "None can touch the cadre." Because if one of the party get confused they might put a hand up his ass and try to work him instead.
@RobertJFreemantle That sounds like a good character concept. I've always been a big fan of necromancers, by far my favorite kind of wizards. Like the monster in the box, reminds me of the movie basketcase if you've ever seen that.
@woodwwad Nope not seen that. Great title though. With a monster in the box, as I see it, he'd have to chop up bits of their fallen victims ahem I mean enemies...and feed pieces to it. Perhaps if it's a dry spell on the ol' enemy front he would go about inciting some violence so that the tougher ones of the party can kill him up something fresh and tasty for the little one. Hehe.
@woodwwad ooh ooh and I'd have ti turn out that the monster is really the one making the dead rise! lmao. The gnome can do bugger all on that front and it's all an act. Smoke and mirrors.
@RobertJFreemantle Yes, I think there is no reason not to shift character powers around like that. It works just as well if the familiar is the reason for the magic as the player & will give a neat twist. As a DM I'd rolled with that if a player requested it.
@StarWarsNerd333 Hmm, someone else mentioned that. I find it odd a person would want to play one just based on being young. I started playing when I was 10 & never was interested in that sort of character. Anyway, the vid isn't suppose to be taken too seriously. What level is your character that he's killing dragons?
@woodwwad level 11 melee ranger. Yeah i can see people not wanting to play as a halfling but i grew up with movies like lord of the rings and willow and being the youngest in the family i was always the hobbit or halfling. p.s awesome vids :D
@StarWarsNerd333 Thanks brother, I appreciate it. I really enjoyed Willow. Mad Martigan was the man. I'm looking forward to when my son is old enough to watch that movie, maybe another year.
In D&D terms, it means a halfling should receive not only -2 to Str, but also -2 to Con; however, they should have additional advantages : +4 Dex, +2 Int, land speed 30 (they're FAST, in movement and thinking), plus larger dodge AC bonuses and, perhaps, a bonus to AC against attacks of opportunity. That is, they should be fast, agile, smart and precise. Yes, they would suck as fighters, barbarians and the like, but why should a halfling ever be one?!
@FelineElaj I wouldn't think they should receive a bonus to int, especially if we are talking about the hobbits from LOTRs, they didn't strike me as particularly smart. But I do think -2 str isn't enough.
Well, I'm not fond of halflings in D&D either, nor am I fond of them in Lord of the Rings. Seriously - the plump merry little-folk, fighting with orcs?!
But.
The concept of a small bugger as adventurer is not bad. As I see it: they're not strong, they're not tough, but they're really, really *fast*.
dont know about D&D but in WHFB halflings can be pretty cool .ppl tend to over look them and see them as just being silly little kids who like food a bit to much .they soon learn a harsh lesson when you whip out a sling which can be hiden anywhere as a belt, headband anything really and plant a stone in their face lol the problem is ppl tend to play them as the stereotype humans and other races see them as.they may not be strong but they can be hard as nails if you play them right.
@woodwwad oh aye iv played 2nd a fair bit back in the day .damage in WHFRP is open ended so you roll to hit then roll a d10 plus the slings dam of 3 .if you roll a 10 then you roll to hit again and if you make that you roll another d10 and so on until you either dont roll a 10 or fail to roll under your BS balistic skill.you subtract the other guys toughness + any armour prob 1-2 .so you could kill just about any human sized dude in one shot av wounds is 11-13ish.halfling BS is in the 40s-50s.
@Level9ing sorry forgot to say the av toughness is 3 .so if they dont have armour your doing at the very least d10 damage.you can crit if you roll against your BS and get 5 or less on the d100.you can also use the strike to stun skill with a sling .not sure if thats in the rules as regards slings but it makes sense to me that getting hit up the face with a rock is doing to stun you some what lol
@Level9ing I like what you are calling open ended damage, I typically hear it called exploding but the same thing I think. It can really make for some dramatic moments. I played a werewolf game that the GM did that on damage & I rolled amazing, killing a thunder wyrm in one hit. Everyone at the table was stunned, especially the GM.
@woodwwad i like open ended damage it allows for that freak lucky shot .lol say the other gamers passed their very own thunder wyrm`s when that happened ;) lol
@Level9ing No, but I think the ST did. His jaw just dropped as I dropped 10 after 10 after 10. It was crazy, if I recall correctly, this was 10 years ago, I did over 30 damage in one hit.
Although I will have to defend halflings when it comes to being sappers! Tiny fuckers with access to explosives that they can stuff into places other, normal-sized folk can't reach! Go-go Halfling sappers! :D
The 3e halflings always looks like elves that got hit with a shrink ray to me. Never really found much appeal unless it was for playing a stealthy rogue.
The 4e halfings are 4 feet tall and built rather tough like, so well, okay. So it's like they're halflings without actually being "half" of anything.
Meh to them. If there's one race that actually gets my indifference, it's halflings.
Otherwise, I'd rather be playing a kobold for the small size. Never did though.
@PrimeSonicYT Hmm, small elves, hadn't considered that but there is some similarity there, now that I think about it.
You are not the first person in these threads to mention liking to play Kobolds the ultimate jobber monster seems to really be starting to generate a following of its own.
What do you think of a kobold as a base race in a setting? Since they are suppose to be descended from dragons what if they were colored differently & LN in standard alignment.
@woodwwad That would be pretty cool in a dungeon delving type adventure. Perhaps searching for an old dragon artifact or something for the clan. Would certainly be a fun one-shot since everyone can be just slightly crazy for the ride. XD
Okay And, So you don't seem to like any stout folk. I do warn you if you do a video hatin' on dwarfs the fan boys (Me included) may come down on you like a ton of bricks. I don't think halfings would look like 3 year olds because their features would seem far more mature. When you see a dwarf irl they don't look like toddlers just small. However I do agree that DnD doesn’t represent Halflings properly. As a side note: It would be note: I would like for you to do a series bad mouthing every race.
@WinstonBiggleswade Lol, well they've been getting a lot of good reviews, so I might have to do some more of these. Maybe I'll come up with a few more tonight. Yep buddy, you might not want to ask for hate vids on everyone, dwarfs are the other race out of the phb that I don't like. I do know they have a strong following were the other 2 don't really. I've never liked them or ever had an interest in playing them. A ton of bricks, that'll be fun ;)
@woodwwad If you do decide to bad mouth every race.Class I look forward to hearing you bad mouth humans ;) "Have you met humans? Their assholes?!" Although making a hate video on every race does make it seem more like a joke. And I'm sure that will deflect many fan boys. On the downside, the arguments you're making towards races you really dislike will hold almost no weight.
But hobbits are more toddler-like. Halflings are more fae. But I prefer the name Pech. I think they make great characters for classes that don't depend on size. Spellcasters, warlocks, rogues, etc. Why be a 6' target of a wizard when you can do the same damage output and be 3' tall? I agree that the strength issue is bizarre. But lots of stuff in D&D is abstract rather than finely tuned.
@woodwwad I have divorced the meaning from any other source. I just like the word. A whole lot better than halfling. I still call gnomes, gnomes. I need to do the Pech and Gnome entries in my Twelve Races series.
@tetsubo57 Yeah, it is pretty hard to come up with a name worse than Halfling. I recall that series of yours, I think I've seen them all. Look forward to the new vids.
oh Dieter De'ath from my Warhammer Fantasy 2nd Edition campaign would have agreed with you so very much on this, the character was short for a human and had a hatred of the small races in this case Dwarfs and Halflings. as a GM it was fun to see his reaction to everything the Halfling of the group pretty much said and did since he purposefully called him by his last name and kept saying it Death instead of De'ath to which Dieter would have some hilarious comebacks
@vynterbone I don't care for them as assassins, that's because I've seen it done to death, others might not have. I'm not big on the idea of them looking like children, I don't care for them too look too much like humans, if you look at the hobbit, it wouldn't have passed for a child. You are right though they will be underestimated & that can really help them. When I DM monsters against a group, they rarely attack the halfling first, unless they are animal like trying to find something to eat.
I'm not going back through the pages of comments to check but in case nobody else mentioned it its something they supposedly addressed with 4th edition, making them more like 9-10 year olds, according to what I read... funny vid though :D
Well, in my campaign I don't run stock halflings like in the books. So I have no problem playing halflings if I was playing them in my world.My halflings have history from the beginning of time so they fit into my workd nicely. I added racial min/max scores in my games a long time ago so I don't have the hi strength halfling problem others do. Halflings make good spell casters, rogues and bards( I know bards are jobber), ranged rangers and ranged warriors. Of course everyone is different.
@masterofflowers I also limit halfling str. The str of both halflings I've had in games this decade were 10, one started at 9. Yeah, there will be a vid on bards soon enough for sure. Having the ecology can really mean everything in the race, I'm confident you've put thought into them.
I couldn't agree more this time. They have broken stats and it messes up the game. If you wanted to role play as an adventurers house keeper a halfling might be a good choice.
@MrSaber152 Well, if you mean the person is 3, then yeah ;) I started rpging when I was 10, my first ever character was a lizardman. To me, the halfling are a little Snarfy, if you follow me, never liked Snarf when I was a kid. I actually fine their appeal seems to be higher with female players than any other group. I guess what you are saying might be right in some cases but I haven't seen that. When I taught my 9 year old nephew how to play he didn't like them, some kids might, good point
I think the whole reason people like Playing Halflings are for the same reasons they play gnomes in World of warcraft, its kinda fun to pick on them. Thought it would have made since to give the Halflings like a strength penalty and then a Speed or agility boost to compensate and keep them balanced.
Have you seen the Eberron barbarian halflings? Its hilarious. They put them on dinosaurs and there are all these muscular toddlers riding around on raptors wielding clubs. I've never actually seen anyone play a halfling. I could only imagine they passed them up for the superior page and a half of racial adjustments that was the gnome.
@MandragGanon I think they are pretty much just toned down Dark Sun Halflings, right? Now that's a different thing, DS halflings are great, I do love a cannibal. I've seen a lot more people play gnomes than halflings. They do give them both a lot of stuff for sure. Poor Half-orcs, no love for you.
@ulkem Oh, thank you very much. I'm glad you liked it. My friends kept telling me to be more myself in my vids, so expect a lot more comedy. Check out the gnome vid & the book review I just did, a lot of the same comedy there.
For every dagger-chewing meat head there needs to be something at the other end of the spectrum. Halflings are nice flavor characters, and in Pathfinder, they actually get optional feats that play on the fact that they look like children. They may come off as weak, but it doesnt take much strength to get a blade in someone who wasnt expecting to get it from the milk boy, and poison can compensate. Also, their practical approach to magic makes some wonderful Sorcerers. But I wouldnt play one. xD
@TabletopTitan I never liked the the child look to them, I've seen it encourage foolishness. I think there is a feat like that someone in 3.5 or 3.0 too.
I wouldn't play one either. I like them as sorcerers, think that works well.
@woodwwad I think the fact that they appear as children but can be wicked evil is really diabolical. In Dark Sun halflings are cannibals. Tell me that isnt unsettling.
@TabletopTitan Dark Sun gets a pass, all cannibals are totally cool. I, and everyone in my group, really like the halfling's from that world. So yes, I give you that, they are cool. I've never played one but if I had the chance to play a lot of DS games I'd eventually play one. I think elves are the best in that world, what do you think?
@woodwwad Actually Im unfamiliar with elves from that setting. Personally I enjoy playing humans the most. I know the most about it, after all. Also, I like the edge humans have on longer lived and older races. Adapting and conquering, breeding like rabbits in comparison, I feel like just being a human is threatening to them.
@TabletopTitan Human's breeding is nothing compared to a goblinoid though. But yes, many of the monsterous races like orcs which hate dwarves & elves are actually described as fearing humans. One of my better players, who was over the house tonight, is a human fan like yourself. I've played a good # of them but have become more & more interested in odd pc choices, finding characters that present challenging role-playing opportunities.
Oh, and my fellow players appreciated that role. Im not one of those idiots, who are having fun, but ruin other people's fun, not even noticing it. But, yeah 16 str halfling is a misunderstanding...
Well, I played halfling during only one session, but It was my best roleplaying act. I enjoyed it very much. He was a thief and a shadowdancer. He had specific sense of humour, he was cocky, and provocative sometimes lewd, talked in a slang. He could afford being bold , cheeky in many situations where other characters just couldn't. NPC's often underestimated him, and he was always taking advantage of his small size. He was picking on women and made lewd jokes.
@JanB56 A halfling picking on women could be good, I think you've put a lot of detail into that character which I'm always a fan of. I do agree with NPCs underestimating them. I rarely ever had the halfling pcs in my game attacked by most int monsters, until they do something in combat that draws attention. Never been modest ;)
I pitty the fool who doesen't see the magnificent awesomeness in playing a gypsy ninja child character!
And in my opinion you could do this same format and same type of arguments on every race. Who would want to play a jewish midget santa dwarf character or an ungly ass musclehead half-orc character or anything.
I've always house-ruled them as being taller (like 3.5 to 4 feet tall). The new renditions of halflings are displeasing to me, since they just look like a 'honey I shrunk the humans' race. Rarely do people play them in my group, although one time we had a halfling assassin who was memorable. As for the name, I def agree. I call them 'hin' or 'perians'.
@Psychometrons also, since they are not built like ants (their anatomy seems very similar to a human's) I give them a -2 STR, instead of CON or whatever they have
@Psychometrons Hins the forgotten realms name. Don't think I've heard Perains before. They do have a -2 str, I was just saying it should be lower. A halfling with a 16 str is totally silly.
@woodwwad perian is elven for halfling. Although I've heard 'pect' be used as well. Maybe it isn't a terrible idea to cap STR with smaller races? normally it would be 18, perhaps for halflings it should be 14. Might be dangerous territory, soon we might be making sure female characters take -4 STR...
@Psychometrons I think it is Peck, that's from the movie Willow. I use it in games sometime but as a racial slur for halflings which is how it was used in the movie. In my games I do cap stats for all races, females for humans are weaker than males, I wouldn't let a female human character have an 18 str, it just isn't believable. There is a vast difference between the strongest male & female in the world. I've had lots of female players & none of them have ever had a problem with it.
@woodwwad word. Do you give females any inherent bonuses? I've heard you could swap the STR cap for a higher DEX cap, but I'm not sure how realistic that is for the sake of balance.
Maybe you banned me for liking halflings...? Even Tolkien's description of the relates them to brownies indirectly...how they can disappear when big people come walking by, their being quick, nimble, dexterous, ...He saw them as being Fae like as well...I don't know how you would see dwarves as Fae like at all, but each cannibalistic gnome to their own...=) =P
@woodwwad Ahh I feel loved. When I first started playing, not too long ago, I first saw the halfling and my first thought was, what the hell is this thing. I didn't even get passed the first page when I decided it was not the race for me.
@DBLACKSTAR69 yes, saidly, they have an utterly horrible name. I like to use halfling as a racial slur, so if you were to call one that, they might be highly offended by it.
@DBLACKSTAR69 that would be a Baggons (not sure if I spelled that right). I've actually never been a LOTRs fan, I know that's odd for a D&D player. I thought the Hobbit was good but didn't care too much about the other 4 books.
@DBLACKSTAR69 ah, right on. They weren't bad too me but just didn't capture my imagination. And there were way too many dwarves, it was really impossible for me to keep them straight.
@Bondanalloy that's all you, my man. I have two players in my group that only like to play humans in fantasy games, I always find that odd in D&D where you can damn near play anything. While I will admit I've made more then 1 great human character in D&D, they aren't big on my list of what I'd like to create.
@Illservan Oh, if you want to see my my least fav monster check out my vid on the digestor. You can find it easily in my monster ecology folder on the main channel page, you'll like it.
Magical strength maybe? I know creatures in mythology draw power from different elements, so maybe the halfling only gets a -2 because he is drawing some sort of energy from the earth thereby filling his body with a mystical strength... dunno but its a thought
Maybe he's structured like an ant? Ants can lift 10 times their body weight maybe a halfling can lift 5 times his normal body weight on average. And isn't the average halfling like 60 pounds or something?
@tewalker13 Halflings don't have anything to do with the earth, I think that is a pretty good explanation for gnomes though. Nope 38lbs is their max weight, & that's for males, female can weigh under 30lbs. Yeah, that's small. It's the size of a 2 year old.
@woodwwad All I was trying to demonstrate was that this is a fantasy setting, if you want a reason to make them stronger than they should be, there isn't anything stopping you really. The concept of "real" and "logical" can be warped by fantastical and/or pseudo scientific explanations quite easily =D
Again, I think you just don't like short people, or people playing short people
@tewalker13 I do not like playing short people, you are fully correct on that one :) Yes, I take you point. What I was pointing out, is it all comes back to the ecology, you have to have that base. If that's how you wanted to make the ecology of halflings it would work fine, I was commenting it would be an easier fit for gnomes as that is the mythical role they play.
@woodwwad halflings are one of my favorite races to play, there is something stoic seeming about being 1/8 a monster's size, knowing that he could full well eat you, and then marching straight toward him unflinching... When you're small you have something to prove, you have a chip on your shoulder, you have to make up for your size eightfold even though you're just half as tall, its a roll I enjoy =D
@tewalker13 Hmm, I've seen someone play a halfling with a chip on his shoulder before. Most of the ones I've seen haven't been played that way. I think the general way is more happy go lucky types. I'd also be bigger on seeing them not be unflinching, I think if you are that small, why not seriously sell. You should damn well be scared of a lot of those monsters.
Don't get me wrong, seriously, I do understand people enjoy them. Of course, I don't, I see them as a bit too silly.
While I am willing to concede some understanding to dislike of gnomes. Halflings/Hobbits are a founding race to RPG's, remembering that one of its backgrounds is from Fantasy, namely "The Lord Of The Rings". True, some RPG's don't use them, nor elves, nor dwarves. Some RPG's use almost strictly humans & they tend to have few followers or players, or are no longer made. Halflings are related to Brownies & the Fae, whom peeps find nimble, quick, & stealthy, or the player is small themselves..
@KorumEmrys I wouldn't think of halflings as fey like. Obviously, elves & dwarves are fey, classically speaking but I don't see that in halflings. Why would you consider them that way?
Inspiered by LOTR, kept my hafling rogue at a low lvl, so that he does not become a fucked up assassin, jumping off rooftops.
I think you are missing the roleplaying factor. I really enjoy playing a naive and annoying litle thief, stealing things and giving the blame to my allies.
But if you don't like haflings, nerf them in your campaigns, I guess.
Good video btw.
Veloceipro 3 weeks ago
@Veloceipro While I'm not a fan of halflings, this video wasn't designed to be too serious. Thanks for watching.
woodwwad 3 weeks ago
and monks Hin Fist to destroy the Big Folk Yay Yondalla
LawrenceKramer 4 weeks ago
@LawrenceKramer Hmm, I haven't seen much about them as monks. The fact they'd do less damage might chase most players away.
I've had 2 people play them in my 3x line games & a few more in 2nd but they are not a highly played race in game I run. I might have played one in 2nd but not since.
woodwwad 4 weeks ago
only reason to play a halfling is to be a broken thief
LawrenceKramer 1 month ago
@LawrenceKramer they make broken sorcerer/wizards too
woodwwad 1 month ago
Racist to my halfling people
anythingbutsane11 1 month ago
@anythingbutsane11 As a standard action!
woodwwad 1 month ago
This was my response, precisely.
Ourarilya 3 months ago
@Ourarilya thanks
woodwwad 3 months ago
I've rarely met anyone who plays halflings or gnomes. Even dwarf characters are rare in the games I've played in. But then, I'm one of those people who doesn't understand why everyone doesn't want to play an elf (or at least half-elf) character. So go figure.
pridday88 3 months ago
@pridday88 Dwarves are one of the more common base races I've had in games I've run. Most in my group don't like elves, so they are pretty rare.
What is your favorite race to play?
woodwwad 3 months ago
I always pictured them as little humans but yeah, I would never play one. I almost exclusively play elves, and pretty much every character I have played thus far has been a decedent of a clan called Duskwalker. Long lineage and a lot of story but thats what makes it fun, right?
CthulhuDarkLord 3 months ago
@CthulhuDarkLord Sure, you absolutely need a a lot of backstory to make the characters interesting & give the GM something to work with. I've only recently come back around on elves. I went through about 15 years of totally not being able to stand them, I'd seen so many played abominably.
woodwwad 3 months ago
@woodwwad It's all in the character though, not just the race. Elves, like humans can be very diverse, but do have some degree of racial similarities. My characters were always proud, and very protective of their families honor, which was besmirched by the actions of an ancestor. Basically a deal with Asmodeus cursed ALL MEMBERS of the clan Duskwalker, future and past to wander the earth after death. After a great favor to the God Adonai agreed to repay Asmodeus and free the clan.
CthulhuDarkLord 3 months ago
@CthulhuDarkLord I'm a real big fan of Asmodeus. You are correct, all races should have a range or deal of diversity to them.
woodwwad 3 months ago
I always pictured halflings to be almost perfectly proportioned small humans, almost like someone with primordial dwarfism. With little pot bellies ^.^
Trisbreya 3 months ago
@Trisbreya I think of them looking a bit like the cartoon drawing from the from the Hobbit movie.
woodwwad 3 months ago
@woodwwad I had forgotten what they looked like. Lol yeah Frodo looks fairly close to the image I have, minus the childlike thing. It's interesting how varied each person's image is of different fantasy type creatures and races.
Trisbreya 3 months ago
@Trisbreya well, you can certainly have a wide range. The halfling drawn in ad&d 1st look a lot different than those in 4e
woodwwad 3 months ago
Oh man, this was just so fucking funny
OwlbearJack 3 months ago
@OwlbearJack thanks
woodwwad 3 months ago
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daniel154 5 months ago
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daniel154 5 months ago
Humorous troll is humorous. :)
I like playing halflings the same reason I like watching Shawn Michaels or Rey-Rey get over on 'Taker and/or Kane: It's fun to see the little guy win.
One of my fave D&D characters was a halfling with a crossbow who was modeled after Hunter S. Thompson.
daniel154 5 months ago
@daniel154 HBK would clearly be a gold elf. He's actually not a small guy, well over 200lbs, IRL, not just billed weight, Rey is really tiny, cannot stand him. Thought him beat a guy like Scott Norton was a top 5 worst moment on Nitro & it took a lot to get on that list. I've never really played a crossbowman. I might give it a try at some point.
woodwwad 5 months ago
I rolled a bluff roll for pretending to be a child. I got it.
GiveNoMercy27 5 months ago
@GiveNoMercy27 hell yeah you did.
woodwwad 5 months ago
Hah, I still prefer the idea of a messed up Gnome rather than Halfling. Haha, I have it! A gnome necromancer! Oh man, I could make him be freaky and wear an oriental hat and carry a strange little monster around in a box.
Or perhaps some sort of fucked up Gnome puppet master, who is very defensive of his puppets! "None can touch the cadre." Because if one of the party get confused they might put a hand up his ass and try to work him instead.
RobertJFreemantle 5 months ago
@RobertJFreemantle That sounds like a good character concept. I've always been a big fan of necromancers, by far my favorite kind of wizards. Like the monster in the box, reminds me of the movie basketcase if you've ever seen that.
woodwwad 5 months ago
@woodwwad Nope not seen that. Great title though. With a monster in the box, as I see it, he'd have to chop up bits of their fallen victims ahem I mean enemies...and feed pieces to it. Perhaps if it's a dry spell on the ol' enemy front he would go about inciting some violence so that the tougher ones of the party can kill him up something fresh and tasty for the little one. Hehe.
RobertJFreemantle 5 months ago
@woodwwad ooh ooh and I'd have ti turn out that the monster is really the one making the dead rise! lmao. The gnome can do bugger all on that front and it's all an act. Smoke and mirrors.
RobertJFreemantle 5 months ago
@RobertJFreemantle Yes, I think there is no reason not to shift character powers around like that. It works just as well if the familiar is the reason for the magic as the player & will give a neat twist. As a DM I'd rolled with that if a player requested it.
woodwwad 5 months ago
ell oh ell, basically. :P
I just stuck my thumb up it.
RobertJFreemantle 5 months ago
Dude noooo Halflings are awesome my character is A halfling and he can kill dragons and am 13 sooooooo halflings are awesome for younger players!
StarWarsNerd333 5 months ago
@StarWarsNerd333 Hmm, someone else mentioned that. I find it odd a person would want to play one just based on being young. I started playing when I was 10 & never was interested in that sort of character. Anyway, the vid isn't suppose to be taken too seriously. What level is your character that he's killing dragons?
woodwwad 5 months ago
@woodwwad level 11 melee ranger. Yeah i can see people not wanting to play as a halfling but i grew up with movies like lord of the rings and willow and being the youngest in the family i was always the hobbit or halfling. p.s awesome vids :D
StarWarsNerd333 5 months ago
@StarWarsNerd333 Thanks brother, I appreciate it. I really enjoyed Willow. Mad Martigan was the man. I'm looking forward to when my son is old enough to watch that movie, maybe another year.
Your character a dragon hunter?
woodwwad 5 months ago
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StarWarsNerd333 5 months ago
Yeah most of the time and agreed about martigan :D
StarWarsNerd333 5 months ago
@StarWarsNerd333 hell yeah you do.
woodwwad 5 months ago
In D&D terms, it means a halfling should receive not only -2 to Str, but also -2 to Con; however, they should have additional advantages : +4 Dex, +2 Int, land speed 30 (they're FAST, in movement and thinking), plus larger dodge AC bonuses and, perhaps, a bonus to AC against attacks of opportunity. That is, they should be fast, agile, smart and precise. Yes, they would suck as fighters, barbarians and the like, but why should a halfling ever be one?!
FelineElaj 5 months ago
@FelineElaj I wouldn't think they should receive a bonus to int, especially if we are talking about the hobbits from LOTRs, they didn't strike me as particularly smart. But I do think -2 str isn't enough.
woodwwad 5 months ago
Well, I'm not fond of halflings in D&D either, nor am I fond of them in Lord of the Rings. Seriously - the plump merry little-folk, fighting with orcs?!
But.
The concept of a small bugger as adventurer is not bad. As I see it: they're not strong, they're not tough, but they're really, really *fast*.
FelineElaj 5 months ago
Aaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha!
DeepEndOfTheDicePool 5 months ago
Man thats so funny!! Good video as always!
TempleToSabot 6 months ago
@TempleToSabot thanks man, I appreciate the support.
woodwwad 5 months ago
dont know about D&D but in WHFB halflings can be pretty cool .ppl tend to over look them and see them as just being silly little kids who like food a bit to much .they soon learn a harsh lesson when you whip out a sling which can be hiden anywhere as a belt, headband anything really and plant a stone in their face lol the problem is ppl tend to play them as the stereotype humans and other races see them as.they may not be strong but they can be hard as nails if you play them right.
Level9ing 6 months ago
@Level9ing Have you ever played D&D? I know Rob played it & was traumatized by bad gamers there but couldn't recall if you had.
If I recall right, all weapons do the same damage in WH, right?
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad oh aye iv played 2nd a fair bit back in the day .damage in WHFRP is open ended so you roll to hit then roll a d10 plus the slings dam of 3 .if you roll a 10 then you roll to hit again and if you make that you roll another d10 and so on until you either dont roll a 10 or fail to roll under your BS balistic skill.you subtract the other guys toughness + any armour prob 1-2 .so you could kill just about any human sized dude in one shot av wounds is 11-13ish.halfling BS is in the 40s-50s.
Level9ing 6 months ago
@Level9ing sorry forgot to say the av toughness is 3 .so if they dont have armour your doing at the very least d10 damage.you can crit if you roll against your BS and get 5 or less on the d100.you can also use the strike to stun skill with a sling .not sure if thats in the rules as regards slings but it makes sense to me that getting hit up the face with a rock is doing to stun you some what lol
Level9ing 6 months ago
@Level9ing I like what you are calling open ended damage, I typically hear it called exploding but the same thing I think. It can really make for some dramatic moments. I played a werewolf game that the GM did that on damage & I rolled amazing, killing a thunder wyrm in one hit. Everyone at the table was stunned, especially the GM.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad i like open ended damage it allows for that freak lucky shot .lol say the other gamers passed their very own thunder wyrm`s when that happened ;) lol
Level9ing 6 months ago
@Level9ing No, but I think the ST did. His jaw just dropped as I dropped 10 after 10 after 10. It was crazy, if I recall correctly, this was 10 years ago, I did over 30 damage in one hit.
woodwwad 6 months ago
What about halfling clerics that smack the shit outta minotaurs?
quarklingg 6 months ago
@quarklingg I was wondering when you'd show up, I figured this would be just the bait :p
& yes, your character was quit good.
woodwwad 6 months ago
Although I will have to defend halflings when it comes to being sappers! Tiny fuckers with access to explosives that they can stuff into places other, normal-sized folk can't reach! Go-go Halfling sappers! :D
Murmig 6 months ago
@Murmig Is that something you played?
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad Yep! Mocked and lacking any respect, but still capable of busting up buildings and castles like a M-F'er!
Murmig 6 months ago
@Murmig hell yeah they are.
woodwwad 6 months ago
hahaha
DirtyBriefcase 6 months ago
@DirtyBriefcase yes, we should all laugh at halflings :)
woodwwad 6 months ago
The 3e halflings always looks like elves that got hit with a shrink ray to me. Never really found much appeal unless it was for playing a stealthy rogue.
The 4e halfings are 4 feet tall and built rather tough like, so well, okay. So it's like they're halflings without actually being "half" of anything.
Meh to them. If there's one race that actually gets my indifference, it's halflings.
Otherwise, I'd rather be playing a kobold for the small size. Never did though.
PrimeSonicYT 6 months ago
@PrimeSonicYT Hmm, small elves, hadn't considered that but there is some similarity there, now that I think about it.
You are not the first person in these threads to mention liking to play Kobolds the ultimate jobber monster seems to really be starting to generate a following of its own.
What do you think of a kobold as a base race in a setting? Since they are suppose to be descended from dragons what if they were colored differently & LN in standard alignment.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad That would be pretty cool in a dungeon delving type adventure. Perhaps searching for an old dragon artifact or something for the clan. Would certainly be a fun one-shot since everyone can be just slightly crazy for the ride. XD
PrimeSonicYT 6 months ago
@PrimeSonicYT right on, thanks
woodwwad 6 months ago
Okay And, So you don't seem to like any stout folk. I do warn you if you do a video hatin' on dwarfs the fan boys (Me included) may come down on you like a ton of bricks. I don't think halfings would look like 3 year olds because their features would seem far more mature. When you see a dwarf irl they don't look like toddlers just small. However I do agree that DnD doesn’t represent Halflings properly. As a side note: It would be note: I would like for you to do a series bad mouthing every race.
WinstonBiggleswade 6 months ago
@WinstonBiggleswade Lol, well they've been getting a lot of good reviews, so I might have to do some more of these. Maybe I'll come up with a few more tonight. Yep buddy, you might not want to ask for hate vids on everyone, dwarfs are the other race out of the phb that I don't like. I do know they have a strong following were the other 2 don't really. I've never liked them or ever had an interest in playing them. A ton of bricks, that'll be fun ;)
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad If you do decide to bad mouth every race.Class I look forward to hearing you bad mouth humans ;) "Have you met humans? Their assholes?!" Although making a hate video on every race does make it seem more like a joke. And I'm sure that will deflect many fan boys. On the downside, the arguments you're making towards races you really dislike will hold almost no weight.
WinstonBiggleswade 6 months ago
@WinstonBiggleswade Well the point was just to give people a good laugh.
Your points above are of course very valid.
woodwwad 6 months ago
Agree, the idea of my son trying to attack me is fucking silly. Take them out.
Disemvowel 6 months ago
@Disemvowel well said.
woodwwad 6 months ago
Whooo! Whowantstogoupwhowantstogoupwhowantstogoup?!
JanB56 6 months ago
@JanB56 damn right, the kids love it!
woodwwad 6 months ago
But hobbits are more toddler-like. Halflings are more fae. But I prefer the name Pech. I think they make great characters for classes that don't depend on size. Spellcasters, warlocks, rogues, etc. Why be a 6' target of a wizard when you can do the same damage output and be 3' tall? I agree that the strength issue is bizarre. But lots of stuff in D&D is abstract rather than finely tuned.
tetsubo57 6 months ago
@tetsubo57 Pech, like the AD&D Gnomes (but not called gnomes)? Or are you talking Peck, like the racial slur in Willow?
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad I have divorced the meaning from any other source. I just like the word. A whole lot better than halfling. I still call gnomes, gnomes. I need to do the Pech and Gnome entries in my Twelve Races series.
tetsubo57 6 months ago
@tetsubo57 Yeah, it is pretty hard to come up with a name worse than Halfling. I recall that series of yours, I think I've seen them all. Look forward to the new vids.
woodwwad 6 months ago
oh Dieter De'ath from my Warhammer Fantasy 2nd Edition campaign would have agreed with you so very much on this, the character was short for a human and had a hatred of the small races in this case Dwarfs and Halflings. as a GM it was fun to see his reaction to everything the Halfling of the group pretty much said and did since he purposefully called him by his last name and kept saying it Death instead of De'ath to which Dieter would have some hilarious comebacks
Helthegrim 6 months ago
@Helthegrim short humans seem to be highly underplayed in D&D, interesting story there.
woodwwad 6 months ago
Dude, you just said why they're soo dangerous.
They look like kids. No one fears them.
Which is totally perfect for an assassin. Hide under/in almost anything. Sewers & other tunnels are perfect means of ingress.
Go read Finieous Fingers & you'll see how deadly the little monsters are.
vynterbone 6 months ago
@vynterbone I don't care for them as assassins, that's because I've seen it done to death, others might not have. I'm not big on the idea of them looking like children, I don't care for them too look too much like humans, if you look at the hobbit, it wouldn't have passed for a child. You are right though they will be underestimated & that can really help them. When I DM monsters against a group, they rarely attack the halfling first, unless they are animal like trying to find something to eat.
woodwwad 6 months ago
I'm not going back through the pages of comments to check but in case nobody else mentioned it its something they supposedly addressed with 4th edition, making them more like 9-10 year olds, according to what I read... funny vid though :D
MeesterWolf99 6 months ago
@MeesterWolf99 Ah thank you, that was the point ;)
Yeah, some people made mention of that, the point on 4th but they've changed them so much they really aren't even the same thing anymore.
woodwwad 6 months ago
Well, in my campaign I don't run stock halflings like in the books. So I have no problem playing halflings if I was playing them in my world.My halflings have history from the beginning of time so they fit into my workd nicely. I added racial min/max scores in my games a long time ago so I don't have the hi strength halfling problem others do. Halflings make good spell casters, rogues and bards( I know bards are jobber), ranged rangers and ranged warriors. Of course everyone is different.
masterofflowers 6 months ago
@masterofflowers I also limit halfling str. The str of both halflings I've had in games this decade were 10, one started at 9. Yeah, there will be a vid on bards soon enough for sure. Having the ecology can really mean everything in the race, I'm confident you've put thought into them.
woodwwad 6 months ago
FUCK HALFLINGS!!!! its LAAAAME!
SimSuicide 6 months ago
@SimSuicide lol, very nice
woodwwad 6 months ago
This is awesome.
SentryGun 6 months ago
@SentryGun thank you very much, I the 2 vids below this are pretty much all comedy too.
woodwwad 6 months ago
I couldn't agree more this time. They have broken stats and it messes up the game. If you wanted to role play as an adventurers house keeper a halfling might be a good choice.
murphysborounderdark 6 months ago
@murphysborounderdark absolutely, well said
woodwwad 6 months ago
they work good for putting young pc at the table they can relate to the size. but they are lame.
MrSaber152 6 months ago
@MrSaber152 Well, if you mean the person is 3, then yeah ;) I started rpging when I was 10, my first ever character was a lizardman. To me, the halfling are a little Snarfy, if you follow me, never liked Snarf when I was a kid. I actually fine their appeal seems to be higher with female players than any other group. I guess what you are saying might be right in some cases but I haven't seen that. When I taught my 9 year old nephew how to play he didn't like them, some kids might, good point
woodwwad 6 months ago
I think the whole reason people like Playing Halflings are for the same reasons they play gnomes in World of warcraft, its kinda fun to pick on them. Thought it would have made since to give the Halflings like a strength penalty and then a Speed or agility boost to compensate and keep them balanced.
dragon1130 6 months ago
@dragon1130 right on, thanks for the comment.
woodwwad 6 months ago
Have you seen the Eberron barbarian halflings? Its hilarious. They put them on dinosaurs and there are all these muscular toddlers riding around on raptors wielding clubs. I've never actually seen anyone play a halfling. I could only imagine they passed them up for the superior page and a half of racial adjustments that was the gnome.
MandragGanon 6 months ago
@MandragGanon I think they are pretty much just toned down Dark Sun Halflings, right? Now that's a different thing, DS halflings are great, I do love a cannibal. I've seen a lot more people play gnomes than halflings. They do give them both a lot of stuff for sure. Poor Half-orcs, no love for you.
woodwwad 6 months ago
2 no more than 2
ringotomb 6 months ago
@ringotomb ok
woodwwad 6 months ago
I disagree with you again. haha.
Samwise7RPG 6 months ago
@Samwise7RPG You, WOW, I'd never have thought that ;) Still, I figured you'd get a good laugh.
woodwwad 6 months ago
God damn it the start of the video is amazing :D I'm still laughing. Love you, love your videos! Thanks man :D
ulkem 6 months ago
@ulkem Oh, thank you very much. I'm glad you liked it. My friends kept telling me to be more myself in my vids, so expect a lot more comedy. Check out the gnome vid & the book review I just did, a lot of the same comedy there.
woodwwad 6 months ago
For every dagger-chewing meat head there needs to be something at the other end of the spectrum. Halflings are nice flavor characters, and in Pathfinder, they actually get optional feats that play on the fact that they look like children. They may come off as weak, but it doesnt take much strength to get a blade in someone who wasnt expecting to get it from the milk boy, and poison can compensate. Also, their practical approach to magic makes some wonderful Sorcerers. But I wouldnt play one. xD
TabletopTitan 6 months ago
@TabletopTitan I never liked the the child look to them, I've seen it encourage foolishness. I think there is a feat like that someone in 3.5 or 3.0 too.
I wouldn't play one either. I like them as sorcerers, think that works well.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad I think the fact that they appear as children but can be wicked evil is really diabolical. In Dark Sun halflings are cannibals. Tell me that isnt unsettling.
TabletopTitan 6 months ago
@TabletopTitan Dark Sun gets a pass, all cannibals are totally cool. I, and everyone in my group, really like the halfling's from that world. So yes, I give you that, they are cool. I've never played one but if I had the chance to play a lot of DS games I'd eventually play one. I think elves are the best in that world, what do you think?
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad Actually Im unfamiliar with elves from that setting. Personally I enjoy playing humans the most. I know the most about it, after all. Also, I like the edge humans have on longer lived and older races. Adapting and conquering, breeding like rabbits in comparison, I feel like just being a human is threatening to them.
That's always a good thing.
TabletopTitan 6 months ago
@TabletopTitan Human's breeding is nothing compared to a goblinoid though. But yes, many of the monsterous races like orcs which hate dwarves & elves are actually described as fearing humans. One of my better players, who was over the house tonight, is a human fan like yourself. I've played a good # of them but have become more & more interested in odd pc choices, finding characters that present challenging role-playing opportunities.
woodwwad 6 months ago
Oh, and my fellow players appreciated that role. Im not one of those idiots, who are having fun, but ruin other people's fun, not even noticing it. But, yeah 16 str halfling is a misunderstanding...
JanB56 6 months ago
It was a great character, I'm not gonna be modest about it, heh.
JanB56 6 months ago
Well, I played halfling during only one session, but It was my best roleplaying act. I enjoyed it very much. He was a thief and a shadowdancer. He had specific sense of humour, he was cocky, and provocative sometimes lewd, talked in a slang. He could afford being bold , cheeky in many situations where other characters just couldn't. NPC's often underestimated him, and he was always taking advantage of his small size. He was picking on women and made lewd jokes.
JanB56 6 months ago
@JanB56 A halfling picking on women could be good, I think you've put a lot of detail into that character which I'm always a fan of. I do agree with NPCs underestimating them. I rarely ever had the halfling pcs in my game attacked by most int monsters, until they do something in combat that draws attention. Never been modest ;)
woodwwad 6 months ago
I pitty the fool who doesen't see the magnificent awesomeness in playing a gypsy ninja child character!
And in my opinion you could do this same format and same type of arguments on every race. Who would want to play a jewish midget santa dwarf character or an ungly ass musclehead half-orc character or anything.
hammeredshitsteak 6 months ago
@hammeredshitsteak Wow, sounds like you've give me topics for future videos. :)
jewish santa, interesting.
woodwwad 6 months ago
I've always house-ruled them as being taller (like 3.5 to 4 feet tall). The new renditions of halflings are displeasing to me, since they just look like a 'honey I shrunk the humans' race. Rarely do people play them in my group, although one time we had a halfling assassin who was memorable. As for the name, I def agree. I call them 'hin' or 'perians'.
Psychometrons 6 months ago
@Psychometrons also, since they are not built like ants (their anatomy seems very similar to a human's) I give them a -2 STR, instead of CON or whatever they have
Psychometrons 6 months ago
@Psychometrons Hins the forgotten realms name. Don't think I've heard Perains before. They do have a -2 str, I was just saying it should be lower. A halfling with a 16 str is totally silly.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad perian is elven for halfling. Although I've heard 'pect' be used as well. Maybe it isn't a terrible idea to cap STR with smaller races? normally it would be 18, perhaps for halflings it should be 14. Might be dangerous territory, soon we might be making sure female characters take -4 STR...
Psychometrons 6 months ago
@Psychometrons I think it is Peck, that's from the movie Willow. I use it in games sometime but as a racial slur for halflings which is how it was used in the movie. In my games I do cap stats for all races, females for humans are weaker than males, I wouldn't let a female human character have an 18 str, it just isn't believable. There is a vast difference between the strongest male & female in the world. I've had lots of female players & none of them have ever had a problem with it.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad word. Do you give females any inherent bonuses? I've heard you could swap the STR cap for a higher DEX cap, but I'm not sure how realistic that is for the sake of balance.
Psychometrons 6 months ago
I always play a lumpy hairy halfling, if I want to annoy everyone else at the table that is with my little disgruntled hairy man.
AcidRoninisCool 6 months ago
@AcidRoninisCool Oh
woodwwad 6 months ago
Whenever I play WFRP I'm always a Halfling. Why? They have a "religious" holiday called Pie Week!
DarthAzabrush 6 months ago
@DarthAzabrush WFRP? I know I should know that but give me a little help, it's mad late here.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay
DarthAzabrush 6 months ago
@woodwwad Warhammer Fantasy.
Demolitiondude 6 months ago
Maybe you banned me for liking halflings...? Even Tolkien's description of the relates them to brownies indirectly...how they can disappear when big people come walking by, their being quick, nimble, dexterous, ...He saw them as being Fae like as well...I don't know how you would see dwarves as Fae like at all, but each cannibalistic gnome to their own...=) =P
KorumEmrys 6 months ago
@KorumEmrys dwarves are from norse mythology, they were a kind of elf, they were fey.
woodwwad 6 months ago
Sorry Brother, for some reason i cannot respond to your response to my comment......?
KorumEmrys 6 months ago
@KorumEmrys did you try clicking on it ;p
woodwwad 6 months ago
I got to agree with this guy. you would think that small, while fast, would be painfully weak. And Halflings have always kinda freaked me out.
DBLACKSTAR69 6 months ago
@DBLACKSTAR69 That's because you actually took a look at them, + 100 xp for you for noticing how weird these little freaks are.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad Ahh I feel loved. When I first started playing, not too long ago, I first saw the halfling and my first thought was, what the hell is this thing. I didn't even get passed the first page when I decided it was not the race for me.
DBLACKSTAR69 6 months ago
@DBLACKSTAR69 Hell yeah you do, 'cause I'm all about the love! "What the hell is this thing," man I got a real out loud laugh at that, very nice.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad I know the name alone implies this things are not going to be worth a damn.
DBLACKSTAR69 6 months ago
@DBLACKSTAR69 yes, saidly, they have an utterly horrible name. I like to use halfling as a racial slur, so if you were to call one that, they might be highly offended by it.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad I know, when I imagine someone calling you a halfling I think of a small pathetic runt. There basically calling you a weak little wimp.
DBLACKSTAR69 6 months ago
@DBLACKSTAR69 yep, you got it there.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad Yeah, never got why you would make an insult the name of a race. Also what's a Bilbo.
DBLACKSTAR69 6 months ago
@DBLACKSTAR69 that would be a Baggons (not sure if I spelled that right). I've actually never been a LOTRs fan, I know that's odd for a D&D player. I thought the Hobbit was good but didn't care too much about the other 4 books.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad I have never seen the movies, or read the books, so that kind of threw me off.
DBLACKSTAR69 6 months ago
@DBLACKSTAR69 ah, right on. They weren't bad too me but just didn't capture my imagination. And there were way too many dwarves, it was really impossible for me to keep them straight.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad My friend did say the Hobbit was pretty good. I never have been a big fan of Dwarves.
DBLACKSTAR69 6 months ago
@DBLACKSTAR69 oh, you haven't read, the Hobbit? Yes, you should, that is by far the best of the books. Never liked Dwarves either.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad I know, now I just need to find a copy of it. Right on mang.
DBLACKSTAR69 6 months ago
@DBLACKSTAR69 right on, your local library should have one.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad I checked before, they don't have one. At least I don't think they do.
DBLACKSTAR69 6 months ago
@DBLACKSTAR69 hu, that's really odd.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad I know, someone probably just took it or bought it or something.
DBLACKSTAR69 6 months ago
Humans for liiiiefe
Bondanalloy 6 months ago
@Bondanalloy that's all you, my man. I have two players in my group that only like to play humans in fantasy games, I always find that odd in D&D where you can damn near play anything. While I will admit I've made more then 1 great human character in D&D, they aren't big on my list of what I'd like to create.
woodwwad 6 months ago
Once again LOL! Please rant on your least favorite class or monster next :)
Illservan 6 months ago
Once again LOL! Please rant on your least favorite class or monster next :)
Illservan 6 months ago
@Illservan Oh, if you want to see my my least fav monster check out my vid on the digestor. You can find it easily in my monster ecology folder on the main channel page, you'll like it.
woodwwad 6 months ago
PS I think you hate short people
ooooooooooooooooh
=P
tewalker13 6 months ago
@tewalker13 Hell yeah I hate short things that aren't people & so do you!
woodwwad 6 months ago
Magical strength maybe? I know creatures in mythology draw power from different elements, so maybe the halfling only gets a -2 because he is drawing some sort of energy from the earth thereby filling his body with a mystical strength... dunno but its a thought
Maybe he's structured like an ant? Ants can lift 10 times their body weight maybe a halfling can lift 5 times his normal body weight on average. And isn't the average halfling like 60 pounds or something?
tewalker13 6 months ago
@tewalker13 Halflings don't have anything to do with the earth, I think that is a pretty good explanation for gnomes though. Nope 38lbs is their max weight, & that's for males, female can weigh under 30lbs. Yeah, that's small. It's the size of a 2 year old.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad All I was trying to demonstrate was that this is a fantasy setting, if you want a reason to make them stronger than they should be, there isn't anything stopping you really. The concept of "real" and "logical" can be warped by fantastical and/or pseudo scientific explanations quite easily =D
Again, I think you just don't like short people, or people playing short people
;-P
tewalker13 6 months ago
@tewalker13 I do not like playing short people, you are fully correct on that one :) Yes, I take you point. What I was pointing out, is it all comes back to the ecology, you have to have that base. If that's how you wanted to make the ecology of halflings it would work fine, I was commenting it would be an easier fit for gnomes as that is the mythical role they play.
woodwwad 6 months ago
@woodwwad halflings are one of my favorite races to play, there is something stoic seeming about being 1/8 a monster's size, knowing that he could full well eat you, and then marching straight toward him unflinching... When you're small you have something to prove, you have a chip on your shoulder, you have to make up for your size eightfold even though you're just half as tall, its a roll I enjoy =D
tewalker13 6 months ago
@tewalker13 Hmm, I've seen someone play a halfling with a chip on his shoulder before. Most of the ones I've seen haven't been played that way. I think the general way is more happy go lucky types. I'd also be bigger on seeing them not be unflinching, I think if you are that small, why not seriously sell. You should damn well be scared of a lot of those monsters.
Don't get me wrong, seriously, I do understand people enjoy them. Of course, I don't, I see them as a bit too silly.
woodwwad 6 months ago
While I am willing to concede some understanding to dislike of gnomes. Halflings/Hobbits are a founding race to RPG's, remembering that one of its backgrounds is from Fantasy, namely "The Lord Of The Rings". True, some RPG's don't use them, nor elves, nor dwarves. Some RPG's use almost strictly humans & they tend to have few followers or players, or are no longer made. Halflings are related to Brownies & the Fae, whom peeps find nimble, quick, & stealthy, or the player is small themselves..
KorumEmrys 6 months ago
@KorumEmrys I wouldn't think of halflings as fey like. Obviously, elves & dwarves are fey, classically speaking but I don't see that in halflings. Why would you consider them that way?
woodwwad 6 months ago
I enjoy gnomes and halflings.
DruzzillandRo 6 months ago
@DruzzillandRo hell yeah you do
woodwwad 6 months ago