Hadith rejectors are hypocrites AT BEST - Nouman 'Ali Khan

[Hamid5495]

you quoted in your comment (oh you who hate Allah and his messenger) if it is true then Allah may reward for your correct description about me or some one like me and if it is incorrect may Allah open your mind and heart towards correct understanding surah50 last aya (Warn by the Quran him who fears my threat) you quoted (your religious sect) means you belong to or you are a follower of a particular sect brother Allah has strictly prohibited to create sects.and those who do so be away---

[juniid]

@Hamid5495 Muslims knew of this verse (50:45) long before you and your Guru Richard Kalif. There is no doubt that the one who doesn't believe in Prophet Muhammad (S) and refuses to follow his way is a kaafir, this is mentioned many times in the Qur'aan, come back later when i will finish the videos refuting your religion inshaAllaah.

Also you didn't understand, i said YOU are following a sect. And it's good that you know Allaah forbade sects, may He bring you out of this one.

[juniid]

@Hamid5495 hi, o you who hate Allaah and His messenger, whom Allaah and the angels send their salawaat upon, and who's name is called every second on earth, and who the believers say "sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam" (may Allaah send His peace and blessings upon him) upon hearing his name.

I am doing a series of video refuting your religious sect, i did aalready almost 4 of about 15 minutes each, it got quite long, but it should answer all your doubts, God willing.

Come back soon.

[juniid]

Allaah revealed this verse to TEST people who PRETENDED to love Allaah:

3:31. Say (O Muhammad to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then FOLLOW ME, Allaah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

3:32. Say (O Muhammad ): "Obey Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad )." But if they turn away, then Allah does not like the DISBELIEVERS.

-last part prooves those who refuse to follow the Prophet (SAW) are kuffaar (disbelievers)

[juniid]

49:1. O you who believe! Do not put (yourselves) forward before Allaah and His Messenger (s), and fear Allaah. Verily! Allaah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.

24:47. They (hypocrites) say: "We have believed in Allah AND in the Messenger (Muhammad ), and we obey," then a party of them turn away thereafter, such are NOT BELIEVERS.

24:48. And when they are called to Allah (i.e. His Words, the Qur'an) AND HIS Messenger, to judge between them, lo! a party of them refuse (to come) and turn away.

[juniid]

24:51. The only saying of the faithful believers, when they are called to Allaah (His Words, the Qur'an) AND HIS MESSENGER (), to judge between them, is that they say: "We hear and we obey." And such are the prosperous ones (who will live forever in Paradise).

24:52. And whosoever obeys Allah AND HIS MESSENGER (), fears Allaah, and keeps his duty (to Him), such are the successful ones.

[juniid]

24:54. Say: "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away, he (Messenger Muhammad ) is only responsible for the duty placed on him (i.e. to convey Allah's Message) and you for that placed on you. If you obey him, you shall be on the right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to convey (the message) in a clear way (i.e. to preach in a plain way)."

And so much more verses. And no the messenger is not Rashad Khalifa or you or me, it's Prophet Muhammad (SAW)

[Hamid5495]

N.A.Khan what ever you are saying about those who do not believe in hadees books are munafiq etc.ect. its up to you but what you are claming is against Quran if you have guts prove your saying by Quran only to make the discussion short ( 2nd aya of surah baqra only book which has no doubt) and many many ayats where Allah command just to follow his path.just quoting false history to prove something is not----. Personally i respect you and i recommed kids to listen your different topics.

[juniid]

@Hamid5495 perdon me, but your a total ignorant. History prooves your sect is one of the stupidest sects ever. Your destroyed just by the fact that the Qur'aan was preserved the same way as the books of ahaadeeth, from student to teacher. And just like hadith, Quran recitations have chains of reciters (isnaad) going back until the prophet (SAW). Tell me the sheikhs i know whom i saw their chain until the prophet (SAW) also dont exist?

lol. That's why the muslims

[juniid]

That's why the muslims are a unique nation, with this system of isnaad, or chains of narrations, they go back to the true word of their Lord, and of their prophet (SAW) while all other nations dont have that.

Guess you didnt know there's 10 ways of reciting the Quraan either? (some include 4 others) plus there is dozens of secondary ways (turuuqaat) tell me this is also a lie when it's available for all to see. It's why hadith rejectors are as ignorant as it gets.

[juniid]

@Hamid5495 2nd aya of surah baqra only book which has no doubt) and many many ayats where Allah command just to follow his path

-True, it's the only preserved book of God, but in it, He orders you over 40 times to obey and follow His prophet. So if you don't do it, you dont truly believe this is the Book of God and since you belie what God said this makes you unbeliever in God's book so therefore an infidel as regards islam (kaafir)

So believe in What God told you to believe in

[juniid]

some evidences:

33:21. Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad ) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.

4:65. But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad ) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.

[juniid]

4:80. He who obeys the Messenger (Muhammad ), has indeed obeyed Allah, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you (O Muhammad ) as a watcher over them.

4:59. O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad ), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger (), if you believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination.

[juniid]

@Hamid5495 "Allah command just to follow his path"

Exactly, but how can you do that? Allaah said (translation):

61:4. Verily, Allaah loves those who fight in His Cause in rows (ranks) as if they were a solid structure .

Imagine if everyone interprets the Qur'aan like he wants? One person prays naked, one person prayes 5 second, one other prays 10 hours,

[juniid]

Allaah asked you to pay zakaat, He didn't tell you a limit. Should you give all your money? if you follow Qur'aan only theres no doubt you should cause Allaah said:

3:92. By no means shall you attain Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, etc., it means here Allah's Reward, i.e. Paradise), unless you spend (in Allah's Cause) of that which you love; and whatever of good you spend, Allah knows it well.

So you love all your wealth. So then GIVE IT all.

[juniid]

62:9. O you who believe! When the call is proclaimed for the Salat (prayer) on the day of Friday, come to the remembrance of Allah and leave off business, that is better for you if you did but know!

62:10. Then when the (Jumu'ah) Salat (prayer) is finished, you may disperse through the land, and seek the Bounty of Allah (by working, etc.), and remember Allah much, that you may be successful.

How do we do this prayer? at what time? who decide when to start it? can it last 15 hours?

[juniid]

and so on so forth. Yes Allaah's guidance is the only one, we know all the verses better then your modern sect. But we need the Messenger to teach us how to worship Allaah correctly, so we dont have 1 billion types of islaam.

Allaah said many times that the messenger GUIDES to the straight path, so he shows us the way to worship Allaah:

Proof:

[juniid]

42:52. And thus We have sent to you (O Muhammad ) Ruhan (an Inspiration, and a Mercy) of Our Command. You knew not what is the Book, nor what is Faith? But We have made it (this Qur'an) a light wherewith We guide whosoever of Our slaves We will. And verily, you (O Muhammad ) are indeed guiding (mankind) to the Straight Path

42:53. The Path of Allah, to Whom belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. Verily, all the matters at the end go to Allah (for decision).

[juniid]

22:67...so let them (pagans) not dispute with you on the matter , but invite them to your Lord. Verily! You (O Muhammad ) indeed are on the (true) straight guidance.

23:73. And CERTAINLY, you (O Muhammad ) CALL THEM to a Straight Path

23:74. And verily, those who believe not in the Hereafter are indeed deviating far astray from the Path

[juniid]

36:2 By the Qur'an, full of wisdom,

36:3 TRULY, you (O Muhammad ) are one of the Messengers,

36:4 On a Straight Path

Here notice that Allaah swore By the Qur'aan itself, and then put emphasise with the word "innaka" (Truly, verily, for certain, etc) that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is of the messengers ON A STRAIGHT PATH, that Allaah told us to follow:

1:6. Guide us to the Straight path

1:7. The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace..

[juniid]

So now someone saying the Prophet's way is wrong is a BIG Kaafir

If you want more evidences let me know.

[Tiscadubai]

It is madness to say we should not follow the Prophet but just follow the Quran. But I always tell people to be careful when following hadiths because hadiths have an authenticity problem. Hadiths were not written by the sahabas but hundreds of years after the prophet's death. I don't take hadiths which contradict the Quran. Most of the important things are clear in the Quran anyway.

[juniid]

@Tiscadubai we all know there is weak hadith, fabricated hadith, good, authentic, and other types. But it is not up to regular laymen like us to judge.

For example do you go to a plumber to fix your car, or go look at a cashier to prescribe you what medicine to take or operate you? obviously no you'd go to a mechanic and a doctor, and be carefull of the one you choose.

So all sciences have it's scholars.

[juniid]

Same for islaam, the scholars are those who say the hadith is weak or not. Allaah divided the people in 2: those who know and those who don't, we must ask the scholars for everything:

"..so ask the people of the Reminder [Scriptures - the Taurat (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel)] if you do not know." [V.16:43 & 21:7]

[juniid]

"O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad ), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger (), if you believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination."

[An Nisaa 4:59]

Also, perdon me, but you seem totally ignorant of the science of hadith. Ahaadeeth where recorded even in the time of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)

[juniid]

And the recording in books wasnt the primary way of preserving islaam, specially in the beginning, given that arabs were an illeterate people. They where strong in MEMORISATION.

The proof is the Qur'aan was compiled first only by Abu Bakr (RA) after the death of the Prophet (SAW) and then was as compiled as we know it in today's masaahif, by 'Uthman (RA)

read more here:

albalagh .net/kids/history/quran_compil­ation.shtml

[juniid]

Next time read description before commenting

khilafah. com/index.php/concepts/islamic­-culture/10520-the-preservatio­n-of-sunnah

Refutes the lie of ignorants who say ahaadith came centuries after Prophet Muhammad (S) and then slander imam Al Bukhari & other scholars who would memorise as much as a million hadith with their chains, and the reliability of the narrators (in memory,piety etc) yet be so strict to only select a few,

while these modernists who dont know arabic cant memorise one