I noticed that you were shooting at a big rock, well the can or what ever on top of it. Man that is very very dangerous. Ricochet have you ever heard of it? Geeeeez!lol
Yes I have. I've been shot at several times and have been hit by shrapnel and ricochets to the point where I don't even count it anymore. Eye protection is a must. That rock was actually a harden piece of tough clay if I remember right but I'm not sure. Not an everyday thing, that's for sure. Thanks for the safety awareness!
I literally just watched your video on the 1851 blackpowder, and now have run across your review of the GI. We have similar tastes in sidearms! lol I own both, and you do an amazing job with each! Thanks for your great reviews/how to's!
Good review for the most part. Very helpfull. I wish someone would just shoot the damn thing. Your sound auality is good, but i gotta be honest. Your picture quality is shiiiiiit.
Yeah the editing program I had at the time was downright horrible. Just because of your comment, I'm going to make a SA 1911 torture test video. Stay tuned for that, filming is Monday. Cheers!
thank you very much the Range Officer seems to be a few hundread dollars less than the emp, I need something reliable for self defense, the last thing I need is a weapon to jam up on me. , I dont want to be a gunsmith, just dont have the time , I appreciate the information. Looks like a Range Officer for me.
Any of the loaded models, EMP, the Range Officer, or anything of the like, those are great. The old clunky GI may not be the most reliable out of the box shooter, but I'll stand behind the others.
@desertgreek The M1911 is not a modern gun, it's not 1 of your Bretta 92 series weapons. It takes "break in" time. i mean it's a one hundred year old design, it can't be treated like a brand new weapon. But it will be pretty reliable out of the box competing with lower end firearms like Hi-points. Note, i'm being polite sir, not trying to be mean or in your face and sorry if this comes out that way. Good Day sir.
NM serial means most of it was assembled in the U.S. N serial means most was assembled in brazil. The frame itself are all made from brazil, which was a machine that was used even in WWII. They are quality frames, but NM assembled SA firearms have a tighter slide and fitting.
Dropping it muzzle-down is not intentional, it's something that could happen as an accident. This whole situation was brought about by the state of California. Every single pistol model that any manufacturer wants to sell in the state of CA has to get their pistols inspected by the state to ensure they are "safe to sell." One of the tests they conduct is the "drop test," which involves dropping it when it's fully chambered to see if it'll go off. Thank CA for that one.
While some companies have decided it's not even worth it to entertain CA's bogus requirements, Springfield Armory has decided to make their pistols in accordance with CA's testing. All recent production SA 1911s come with titanium firing pins and extra strong firing pin springs to pass the "drop test" and be compliant with CA's wishes. I felt that the spring on mine had worn down and replaced it, but it was probably fine, just some extra caution.
I know you don't encounter these sorts of problems with your PAPER guns, but this is a work horse, not a showroom queen. Maybe when you get older and are legally able to purchase a gun you'll understand.
It's a mix of US and Brazil manufacture. The frame is made in Brazil but I believe most of the rest of it is made in the United States. They do this to lower costs for the average joe (us), I believe they forge the parts in Brazil, then import them and machine them here in the US. Even with the Brazil manufacture, the frame is still sound. A good number of parts are MIM, so if that doesn't float your boat you might want to replace them like I did.
Recoil is relative to several factors----the strength, technique and psyche of the operator, the size, design and weight of the platform used, the nature of the cartridge used. To me the 9mm and .45 have a gentle push, whereas the .40 has a snap. To me the .38 special, .357 and .380 out of small platforms, is brutal. A 2" snub with .357 medium to high power rounds is just wrong IMHO. The beauty of the 5" 1911 chambered in .45 is ideal for any user at an level as far as recoil is concerned.
I appreciate the fact you do not worship the pistol. It has been used. I have a MIL SPEC that was made in 2003 and came with a SS, one-piece barrel, 3 dot sights, one mag, no holster, no dual mag pouch, etc. My thoughts are that SA started rushing the production of these pistols since demand has skyrocketed for the 1911 platform. The slide and frame of mine were forged in Brazil but the weapon was assembled in Geneseo, IL. For a base model, the fit, form and function has been excellent.
I understand that a heavier gun will "feel" like less recoil. However the reason for the recoil lays not only in the bullet weight but in the powder and velocity/ pressure that particular caliber creates. A 9 mm has much more speed and pressure build up but does have a smaller mass being pushed out the barrel. This is why I personally feel about the same recoil. I'm not trying to argue either :) and yes you are right a light gun can make a 9 mm or .45 feel like a .44 mag
Honestly it all depends on the pistol you're using. A Glock in .45 kicks crazy ridiculous, but a full-steel 1911 doesn't kick that bad. A full-steel Browning HP doesn't kick much at all, it's all relative to pistol weight beyond the usual dynamics of caliber. I don't think a blanket statement like that can cover everything that's out there.
Sadly, im under 18 so i cant go to a range and shoot one but ill have to see if i can find one to take a few shots with. Ive been told the .45 kick is straight back vs. a 9mm is poppy with the muzzle coming up. Whats you're opinion?
I've never heard that before. I can understand why people might say that, many 9mm pistols are very light compared to the very common .45-shooting 1911. The .45 most definitely also shoots up, but that's a pistol design situation, and not a caliber distinction. I would definitely work your way up to .45, I see people too many times buy a .45 just to have a .45. A 9mm in trained and capable hands is far better than a .45 in untrained hands. Plus it costs less to train.
@Mr2ndAmendment Ya, the 9mm i have is a S&W compact. I cant remember the modal but it has alot of muzzle lift. Im looking at a .45 because i found one for $400 used and it looks brand new,(the same model on this video). Ive been looking for a 9mm version of a 45 but they are around $1000 and i dont have that kind of money.
Hey, im looking at buying a used version of these. Are .45s as hard ot handle as people say they are? I can shoot a 9mm just fine but havent shot a .45 before.
I would try to borrow a friend's .45 or go to a range where you can rent one to try it out first. A huge mistake a lot of people make is buying a gun without holding one or shooting one to make sure it's what they want, just because it feels good in your hands doesn't mean it still will after several hundred shots. The 1911 has a different felt recoil than anything else because it is very heavy compared to other modern pistols and can be managed with time and skill.
A .45 does have a lot of kick, and learning how to handle it takes time and requires a decent amount of strength. The 1911 also weighs a lot, and it will strain on you after holding it up and out there for so long. Definitely shoot a 1911 if you can before buying, it may be exactly what you're looking for, or it may be something you didn't expect. In terms of carrying, I wouldn't carry any caliber you can't handle. A .22 in good hands is far better than a .45 in bad hands.
Agreed. I stoned and smoothed-down the original extractor but an Ed Brown stainless "perfection" extractor is being ordered. Haven't seen too many problems with using dirty ammo, the slide is loose enough to handle the tolerances, but it's definitely not a great idea if you can help it.
@Mr2ndAmendment I do recommend for hand loads, since factory ammo use dirty, scumbag powder, in which they may call it "smokeless powder". Although 1911s are particularly reliable, I don't recommend you use something that might gump it up.
Oh, and the reliabilities of Winchester have had now being something in the past.
I think I know what to do with your 1911. Strip that black oxide off of it, and have a hot blue. Then polish the chamber and the feeding ramp. Oil and lube the slide rails more. Hope that helps.
I shot mine today and it choked on some flat nose lead bullets I had, the slide would not go fully into battery when being chambered. It shot them a lot better after with some shooting. It has shot 100% with ball ammo and some winchester hollowpoints.
Great intel. I've never shot flat nosed through it but I haven't noticed any extraordinary issues with hollow point and +P ammunition. I have had several issues with ball ammo, for some reason it doesn't like Federal ammo but will eat up Remington UMC without a problem.
@Mr2ndAmendment Thanks. Perhaps the 1911 is just a bit more picky about ammo. What kind of Federal ammo was it? I'd like to try it just to see if my gun will feed it.
It's just the basic ball 230 grain stuff you can get at Walmart, comes in the red boxes. For some reason it doesn't like it as much but maybe that's because I broke it in with several UMC 250 round boxes?
I noticed that you were shooting at a big rock, well the can or what ever on top of it. Man that is very very dangerous. Ricochet have you ever heard of it? Geeeeez!lol
tonedamuss 2 weeks ago
@tonedamuss
Yes I have. I've been shot at several times and have been hit by shrapnel and ricochets to the point where I don't even count it anymore. Eye protection is a must. That rock was actually a harden piece of tough clay if I remember right but I'm not sure. Not an everyday thing, that's for sure. Thanks for the safety awareness!
Mr2ndAmendment 2 weeks ago
How much is this gun new
SuperLuke33 2 weeks ago
I literally just watched your video on the 1851 blackpowder, and now have run across your review of the GI. We have similar tastes in sidearms! lol I own both, and you do an amazing job with each! Thanks for your great reviews/how to's!
kwillsears 1 month ago
@kwillsears
Thanks and keep shooting!
Mr2ndAmendment 1 month ago
Good review for the most part. Very helpfull. I wish someone would just shoot the damn thing. Your sound auality is good, but i gotta be honest. Your picture quality is shiiiiiit.
TheRatboy09 1 month ago
@TheRatboy09
Yeah the editing program I had at the time was downright horrible. Just because of your comment, I'm going to make a SA 1911 torture test video. Stay tuned for that, filming is Monday. Cheers!
Mr2ndAmendment 1 month ago
1911's are one of my favorite handguns, it just has something about it.
InfidelOpsSniper 2 months ago
i bought one from a guy who did work on the slide and trigger and it shoots like a dream
Thetruejarodavick 3 months ago
thank you very much the Range Officer seems to be a few hundread dollars less than the emp, I need something reliable for self defense, the last thing I need is a weapon to jam up on me. , I dont want to be a gunsmith, just dont have the time , I appreciate the information. Looks like a Range Officer for me.
desertgreek 4 months ago
is there a springfield 1911 that you would reccomend for someone that wants something reliable out of the box.
desertgreek 4 months ago
@desertgreek
Any of the loaded models, EMP, the Range Officer, or anything of the like, those are great. The old clunky GI may not be the most reliable out of the box shooter, but I'll stand behind the others.
Mr2ndAmendment 4 months ago
@desertgreek The M1911 is not a modern gun, it's not 1 of your Bretta 92 series weapons. It takes "break in" time. i mean it's a one hundred year old design, it can't be treated like a brand new weapon. But it will be pretty reliable out of the box competing with lower end firearms like Hi-points. Note, i'm being polite sir, not trying to be mean or in your face and sorry if this comes out that way. Good Day sir.
AlllamericanQB 2 months ago
I plead the 2nd.
PistolGripPump12ga 4 months ago
HaHa this guy sounds like Seth Rogan!
adrenalineseoul 6 months ago
as for holster rail, you can attach tehere 123 type battery compact holder to replace them if laser or the light is down :)
Gurjaaneli 6 months ago
NM serial means most of it was assembled in the U.S. N serial means most was assembled in brazil. The frame itself are all made from brazil, which was a machine that was used even in WWII. They are quality frames, but NM assembled SA firearms have a tighter slide and fitting.
SA 1911 loaded parkerized
Remmy 870 express magnum matte
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thahchad1987 6 months ago
Awesome gun!
darkcheetahh 7 months ago
Why would you drop it? Great video though.
INFANTRYSCOUT101 7 months ago
@INFANTRYSCOUT101
Dropping it muzzle-down is not intentional, it's something that could happen as an accident. This whole situation was brought about by the state of California. Every single pistol model that any manufacturer wants to sell in the state of CA has to get their pistols inspected by the state to ensure they are "safe to sell." One of the tests they conduct is the "drop test," which involves dropping it when it's fully chambered to see if it'll go off. Thank CA for that one.
Mr2ndAmendment 7 months ago
@INFANTRYSCOUT101
While some companies have decided it's not even worth it to entertain CA's bogus requirements, Springfield Armory has decided to make their pistols in accordance with CA's testing. All recent production SA 1911s come with titanium firing pins and extra strong firing pin springs to pass the "drop test" and be compliant with CA's wishes. I felt that the spring on mine had worn down and replaced it, but it was probably fine, just some extra caution.
Mr2ndAmendment 7 months ago
@Mr2ndAmendment Whats your take on rock island 1911's?
FullmetaljacketJ 3 months ago
Hey bro can you upgrade my gun?, just the springs?, since you know about that stuff, all the expenses would be coverd by me
noel40220 7 months ago
@noel40220
Check your messages.
Mr2ndAmendment 7 months ago
@xxuncexx
I know you don't encounter these sorts of problems with your PAPER guns, but this is a work horse, not a showroom queen. Maybe when you get older and are legally able to purchase a gun you'll understand.
Mr2ndAmendment 7 months ago
@AfroSamurai4613
It's a mix of US and Brazil manufacture. The frame is made in Brazil but I believe most of the rest of it is made in the United States. They do this to lower costs for the average joe (us), I believe they forge the parts in Brazil, then import them and machine them here in the US. Even with the Brazil manufacture, the frame is still sound. A good number of parts are MIM, so if that doesn't float your boat you might want to replace them like I did.
Mr2ndAmendment 7 months ago
Recoil is relative to several factors----the strength, technique and psyche of the operator, the size, design and weight of the platform used, the nature of the cartridge used. To me the 9mm and .45 have a gentle push, whereas the .40 has a snap. To me the .38 special, .357 and .380 out of small platforms, is brutal. A 2" snub with .357 medium to high power rounds is just wrong IMHO. The beauty of the 5" 1911 chambered in .45 is ideal for any user at an level as far as recoil is concerned.
RowdyatHeart 8 months ago
I appreciate the fact you do not worship the pistol. It has been used. I have a MIL SPEC that was made in 2003 and came with a SS, one-piece barrel, 3 dot sights, one mag, no holster, no dual mag pouch, etc. My thoughts are that SA started rushing the production of these pistols since demand has skyrocketed for the 1911 platform. The slide and frame of mine were forged in Brazil but the weapon was assembled in Geneseo, IL. For a base model, the fit, form and function has been excellent.
RowdyatHeart 8 months ago
I understand that a heavier gun will "feel" like less recoil. However the reason for the recoil lays not only in the bullet weight but in the powder and velocity/ pressure that particular caliber creates. A 9 mm has much more speed and pressure build up but does have a smaller mass being pushed out the barrel. This is why I personally feel about the same recoil. I'm not trying to argue either :) and yes you are right a light gun can make a 9 mm or .45 feel like a .44 mag
bowmaddnneess 8 months ago
45 dosent kick any harder then a 9mm
bowmaddnneess 8 months ago
@bowmaddnneess
Honestly it all depends on the pistol you're using. A Glock in .45 kicks crazy ridiculous, but a full-steel 1911 doesn't kick that bad. A full-steel Browning HP doesn't kick much at all, it's all relative to pistol weight beyond the usual dynamics of caliber. I don't think a blanket statement like that can cover everything that's out there.
Mr2ndAmendment 8 months ago
Great review thanks
Danstheman1357 10 months ago
Sadly, im under 18 so i cant go to a range and shoot one but ill have to see if i can find one to take a few shots with. Ive been told the .45 kick is straight back vs. a 9mm is poppy with the muzzle coming up. Whats you're opinion?
mxbuddy595 10 months ago
@mxbuddy595
I've never heard that before. I can understand why people might say that, many 9mm pistols are very light compared to the very common .45-shooting 1911. The .45 most definitely also shoots up, but that's a pistol design situation, and not a caliber distinction. I would definitely work your way up to .45, I see people too many times buy a .45 just to have a .45. A 9mm in trained and capable hands is far better than a .45 in untrained hands. Plus it costs less to train.
Mr2ndAmendment 10 months ago
@Mr2ndAmendment Ya, the 9mm i have is a S&W compact. I cant remember the modal but it has alot of muzzle lift. Im looking at a .45 because i found one for $400 used and it looks brand new,(the same model on this video). Ive been looking for a 9mm version of a 45 but they are around $1000 and i dont have that kind of money.
Thanks
mxbuddy595 10 months ago
Hey, im looking at buying a used version of these. Are .45s as hard ot handle as people say they are? I can shoot a 9mm just fine but havent shot a .45 before.
Thanks
mxbuddy595 10 months ago
@mxbuddy595
I would try to borrow a friend's .45 or go to a range where you can rent one to try it out first. A huge mistake a lot of people make is buying a gun without holding one or shooting one to make sure it's what they want, just because it feels good in your hands doesn't mean it still will after several hundred shots. The 1911 has a different felt recoil than anything else because it is very heavy compared to other modern pistols and can be managed with time and skill.
Mr2ndAmendment 10 months ago
@mxbuddy595
A .45 does have a lot of kick, and learning how to handle it takes time and requires a decent amount of strength. The 1911 also weighs a lot, and it will strain on you after holding it up and out there for so long. Definitely shoot a 1911 if you can before buying, it may be exactly what you're looking for, or it may be something you didn't expect. In terms of carrying, I wouldn't carry any caliber you can't handle. A .22 in good hands is far better than a .45 in bad hands.
Mr2ndAmendment 10 months ago
Oh, and try to find another better extractor and replace the old one. Don't use ammo that was too dirty.
1stMarineCapt 11 months ago
@1stMarineCapt
Agreed. I stoned and smoothed-down the original extractor but an Ed Brown stainless "perfection" extractor is being ordered. Haven't seen too many problems with using dirty ammo, the slide is loose enough to handle the tolerances, but it's definitely not a great idea if you can help it.
Mr2ndAmendment 10 months ago
@Mr2ndAmendment I do recommend for hand loads, since factory ammo use dirty, scumbag powder, in which they may call it "smokeless powder". Although 1911s are particularly reliable, I don't recommend you use something that might gump it up.
Oh, and the reliabilities of Winchester have had now being something in the past.
1stMarineCapt 10 months ago
I think I know what to do with your 1911. Strip that black oxide off of it, and have a hot blue. Then polish the chamber and the feeding ramp. Oil and lube the slide rails more. Hope that helps.
1stMarineCapt 11 months ago
I shot mine today and it choked on some flat nose lead bullets I had, the slide would not go fully into battery when being chambered. It shot them a lot better after with some shooting. It has shot 100% with ball ammo and some winchester hollowpoints.
esh325 11 months ago
@esh325
Great intel. I've never shot flat nosed through it but I haven't noticed any extraordinary issues with hollow point and +P ammunition. I have had several issues with ball ammo, for some reason it doesn't like Federal ammo but will eat up Remington UMC without a problem.
Mr2ndAmendment 11 months ago
@Mr2ndAmendment Thanks. Perhaps the 1911 is just a bit more picky about ammo. What kind of Federal ammo was it? I'd like to try it just to see if my gun will feed it.
esh325 11 months ago
@esh325
It's just the basic ball 230 grain stuff you can get at Walmart, comes in the red boxes. For some reason it doesn't like it as much but maybe that's because I broke it in with several UMC 250 round boxes?
Mr2ndAmendment 11 months ago