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  • *Be certain God will visit His wrath on them. Thank heavens he knew his fans love him.

  • All who have betrayed Michael's innocent trust, which is just about anyone who anyone close to him, except Elizabeth Taylor & McCauley Caulkin (sp?): Prepare to suffer the wrath of God.

  • E=MJ squared

  • nice video!

  • What an intelligent man <3

  • I want to see the video so bad!

    

  • Truly a beautiful, compelling speech. If you've not already done so, I highly recommend reading Rabbi Schmuley Boteach's second book, Honoring the Child Spirit. It's the book Michael speaks to in this speech. It brings to life his beautiful, childlike nature and why he CHOSE to live a child-like life. If every father would model just a few of his loving qualities, we would heal the world because we'd heal our children! You are f o r e v e r Michael!

  • psyche-y? :P

  • your so beautiful michael i love you so much <3 R.I.P sweet beautiful person

  • MJ King of Orators!

  • MJ gave such a beautiful speech. I wish more people would listen to it n put it into action. It just sucks that Rabbi Schmuley ended up stealing money from MJ's Heal the World Foundation, and he was the President of the organization.Ppl loved trying to play MJ for a fool and it breaks my heart...sigh. That was so messed up what he behind MJ's back! Ugh was there anybody Michael could actually trust, geesh! That's why MJ "suddendly" stopped talking to him b/c he found out Schmuley was stealing.

  • Thank you begodsglow for posting "Michael Jackson - Oxford Speech 2001 (part 1/4) w/ full text". It is an honor hearing this extraordinary speech of beloved Mr. Michael Joseph Jackson. Michael overflowed with musical brilliance, love, compassion and generosity. What a life changing experience it would have been to hear Michael deliver this mesmerizing speech. God blessed this world by sharing Michael with us. Every human being would benefit on studying MJJ's message. God bless our children!

  • I gotta say, he is amazing.

  • his normal speaking voice is as beautiful as his singing voice

  • Only God could mold the beautiful heart that Michael had.

  • I love listening to Michael talk. His voice never bores me!

  • THEY WILL NEVER EVER BRING HIM DOWN!

    THEY WILL NEVER EVER TAKE AWAY HIS SMILE, HIS PRIDE AND HIS INDEGRITY!

    The world moves for love. It kneels before it in awe.

    And I kneel before this Man's Magnificence!

    MICHAEL YOU ARE FOREVER!

  • LOVE IS ALL WE NEED

    

  • Do this, pass it on and you are then a soldier of L.O.V.E

  • (Al-E-Imran) Say, (O Muhammad, to mankind): If ye love Allah, follow me; Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (31)

  • All you have to do to join the Army of L.O.V.E is . . .

    

  • Will you join Michael and I in The Army of L.O.V.E?

  • This should have 300 million views on YouTube not Lady Gaga's Bad Romance. The sites bashing MJ have so many hits and while I am not saying he's perfect I just think it's very telling that people love to view those vids rather then do actual digging and listen to vids like this. Why are people so very afraid to give MJ the benefit of the doubt? I think it's because once we realise that he was truly this nice of a person most of us know that we behave like a-holes. God Bless MJ.

  • When God created Michael Jackson, He created more than genius--He created a masterpiece of love, compassion and wisdom.

    How sad that so many are only just now, nearly two years since his tragic and untimely passing, discovering that he was so much more than just the greatest entertainer who ever lived. I'm sure God has given him the extraordinary honor in Heaven of caring for all the children who left our world too soon. Bless you, Dear Michael. We will love you forever!

  • WAS HE REAL OR WHAT ? MJ !!! I NEED YOU SO MUCH MORE THAN EVER. WOW, THIS MAN, THIS CHILE,THIS SOUL,THIS PIECE FROM HEAVEN, THIS ART WHICH LIVED-MOVED-TOLD-REVEALED-OBSE­RVED AND SANG IT ALL SO HEAVENLY.... IS AWFULLY MISSED MORE THAN EVER

  • @thedreamportal talk about a backhanded compliment!

  • beautiful message, I LOVE U MICHAEL

  • ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Please join fans around the world EVERY MONTH ON THE 25th for Major Love Prayer! --- We're sending out a major love in a global prayer/meditation to heal the world, simultaneously at 2pm Pacific / 5pm Eastern (10pm UK - google "major love prayer" for time in your location) We love you so much, Michael! Thank you!

    ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

  • @begodsglow fantastic.... here we join, will spread the word. WOW, MJ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AM SPEECHLESS ! HE IS AN PIECE OF HEAVEN !!! STILL CANNOT PLACE HIM WITH THE PAST SENTENCES AS THEY ARE MERE SENTENCES.

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  • When you're a kid, all you want to do is be a grown-up. When you're an adult, all you want to be is a kid. Man, nine was the best year of my life. I didn't have a clue about anything. At 10, all the magic goes away. This reminds me of the book ''Reviving Ophelia'' which discusses the effects of the media on teen girls.

  • i love michael

  • Is there any video for this?

  • i don't know why I cry when I hear this speech!!!?

    first time I heard It ,I was brusting into tears ,depressed and my was totally broken,

    am I the only one who does that!!!?

  • His soft spoken decent voice is a cure for lots of people. He speaks with such beautiful phrases......he was a very very intelligent, sensitive man. Serious but funny sometimes too! He was relaxed here, you can hear but most of all FEEL it, when you open yourself for this Man.

    I have a copy of this speech in a MJ map and sometimes I read the touching lines.

    Thank you and Michael...

  • @margamj1961

    Can i have that speech copy as i wanted to holding / read it everywhere i go, (its really hard for me to handcopy by this video. big thank you.

    lastly, i would like to let Michael know "we all miss u very much"

  • I simply love this man.

    Back then, i'd say Michael for president. ): <33.

  • There was footage of the speech on youtube, I saw it some months ago - where did it go? Michael had considerable brains, that's why he is loved so much by a lot of people, its not just because of his outstanding musical abilities. He was a deep thinker too.

  • Oh Christ. The last 2 min of this part of the speech...which I've never heard before, displayed succinctly something I've never been able to articulate, but something that I've always...always known. Hot damn.

  • reading this speech gives me another reason to respect the man..

    he's very eloquent. parents, everyone must listen to his message of love and peace..

    it's very warm and enlightening. not everyone can compose a speech this great..

  • such a LONG BEAUTIFUL speech

  • ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

  • MJ, never can say goodbye

  • EVERY SINGLE WORD HURTS SO MUCH!!!

    It's so true... I didn't have childhood either... My parents abused all of us (5) we sleept on the floor in one room, starving, being constanly beaten and humiliated... I grew up and I thought I'm the worst and the ugliest person alive. So did my brother and my three sisters...

    BRUISES AND WHIP MARKS HEAL, BUT THE SOUL DOESN'T :'o(

    My lovely Michael healed my soul... In so many ways!

    I don't know how and why but he saved me. That's a proof he is God sent!

  • @lizmarie116 I am truly sorry for what you have endured. I am glad that Michaels presence in this world made life bearable for you. The soul can heal,it just takes much longer than the bruises. Maybe to help you heal,you can do what Michael did and try to help other people that are going through what you went through. God bless you and God bless Michael. XO

  • he has just such a great sense of humour :)mike, i love you, no matter what ppl said, ay and will say about u.

  • I LOVE YOU SOOOO MUCH MICHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (L) You are the most beautiful person ever! <3

  • @begodsglow I love this speech it represents the real Michael!! I'm on the prayer every months and it feels great to have the oppurtinity to follow Michael's mission, his message!

  • This speech represents the true Michael!!

  • i love this speech so much

  • Michael said he and the Rabbi were "writing a book together about childlike qualities". He said NOTHING about a bio or autobiography.

  • I'll Be There, just look over your shoulder honey! Thank you for allowing us to listen to this most important of messages. I'm playing this for my kids at school this afternoon. Whoa this will blow them away and further open their eyes, minds, and hearts. I love you more.

  • Haha , E = MJ squared !!

  • michael shoudve written a book on parenting, i would kill to have him as a father. he is so kind and loving it makes me cry.

  • where's that book that he talked about at the very begining about childlike qualities????

  • @monica46005 I guess he and Schmuley fell out before they finished it. Schmuley's book on MJ that's coming out now looks interesting. And MJ's autobiography "Moonwalk" is good, if a bit dry (he was more a poetry guy than a prose guy, but his life's an interesting story any which way).

  • is it just me or does michael sound like he has a slight lisp here? it might just be the quality of the audio though. like in the other upload of the oxford speech his voice is higher pitched, but in this one he sounds deeper.

  • Michael. I just love Michael.  Love, Fawnie

  • I respect another layer to MJ's message after seeing this video. Thanks!!!

  • Thank you!

  • the best speech a human cud ever deliver.......such a great soul miss u mike

  • We have lost a great mentor to the world. Michael, you will be greatly missed. I love you.

  • My daughter was there. She still has the ticket and Oxford Union programme.

  • This is so nice, thank you for posting.

  • Truth.

  • Tears in my eyes again...this speech has touched my life...in so many ways...MJ sounds lovely...I miss his voice and his wisdom and his kind words...he really knew what he was talking about and so gentle and kind...so well-spoken, too.

  • That book of Schmuley's was always supposed to be about children, not about Michael supposedly gaining back the affections of the public. Like so many, Shmuley betrayed Michael's trust and beauty.

    We will not forget you Michael.

    Ever.

  • To see just a bit of video footage of MJ at Oxford (not the speech, though), just look for "Michael Jackson hält Rede in der Oxford" parts 1 and 2. It's clips from German news in 2001, but you can see enough to get an idea of what it looked like! :)

  • @begodsglow

    do u have this speech copy (full version of part1~4) that can send me as i wanted to holding / reading it everywhere i go, (its really hard for me to handcopy by the video. big thank you.

    PS. Michael "we all miss u very much" RIP

  • @TheJoeterrence Hi there :) Google "allmichaeljackson oxford" and you'll find a printable transcript ♥

  • Make it right for Mike. mjtruthnow com

  • So the book that Schmuley promised Michael that he would write was about "Childlike qualities" NOT and EXPOSE about Michael Jackson. This is proof that Schmuley is a liar and a thief. He has nothing good in his heart. Michael had the good heart. He opened it up wide and poured his spirit out to Schmuley and what did he do in return? Back stabbing, money grabbing *****! It is men like him that give Jews a bad name. God Rest Your Soul Michael.

  • he should have been president

  • I agree

  • He is much too good to be a president. He is much more important in the world than any president ever was and will be.

  • @xgs724 I SO WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR HIM :))))))))

  • Does anybody know to which book Michael refers to at the beginning of his talk, when he expressed thanks to Shmuley and said 'writing our book about childlike qualities', did they write a book together? Thanks!

  • No, that book was never written or published. Shmuley recently published a book called "The Michael Jackson Tapes," which contains the intimate conversations they had that were originally going to be the basis of their book about children, etc.

  • When you would think there's nothing more Michael could give, you bump again and again into speeches like this and you realise this man is full of surprises, he is so intelligent and wise and such a great soul that adds to his genius as an entertainer.

    Oh how much I love you!!

  • Man, yall just don't know, Michael was smarter than you know. He knew more than the naked eye could see. People been sleeping on Michael, he was something special. People underestimated his intelligence. he was so true to himself. I loveeeee him from the bottom of my heart.

  • Begodsglow, thanks for the reminder!

  • Christmas ??? OKAY ! GOODLUCK EVERYBODY. we gotta spread michaels message !

    L.O.V.E

  • woooow im from oxford!!!!! :D

  • If youd like to help Michael to be vindicated by mainstream media, please sign up for the newsletter for free at mjtruthnow . com

  • then Shmuley betrays him by writing a book about confidential sessions and publishing after his death without his knowledge, adding his own opinions and views and passing them off a fact !!!!!

  • If Jesus was alive today, taking love, performing miracles, saying you too can do this and more, and inviting children to come to him, sit on his lap, reminding the world to be more like them, hed be condemned by the same people that hate MJ: hed be ridiculed by them, accused perhaps of pedophilia, humiliated by having his privates photographed, his home raided. And eventually, hed be crucified on the cross of greed, stress, and psychotrophic/ psychoactive medication.

  • @ katnip2u i agree with you. you said it very clearly and eloquently.

  • Michael was about love and magic. Those who are not such heart-centered human beings cannot open themselves to him. Let them be. MJ experienced so much pain for how he was treated, yet, he remained soft-spoken, kind and giving. Instead of lashing out, he put the energy of anger into some activist songs. So, lets focus proactively on what we CAN do to further MJs legacy and not dirty ourselves with the filth of heart/soul-less humans. God/Allah knows

  • katnip2u: You have really put into words what my heart has been saying. Thank you for being so eliquent with the way you put things. I agree with you 100%.

    I also invite you and others who are interested in vindicating Michael from the media to join mjtruthnow. This is a site that focuses on vindication and justice for Michael.

  • Well said. xx

  • I mean, the only singers?

  • So, just Michael Jackson and Shakira have spoken at Oxford University?

  • Michael, you touched my soul.... and I feel so happy to say that I know who you were and your beautiful work you left us your fans. We love you forever <3 <3 4ever.

  • EXCELLENT!

  • He was an angel with a mission...perfect in every way....so beautiful and gentle, so focused on his purpose...and the way we lost him... How could so many of us take him for granted whilst he was still here, so full of love for everybody ? Although our hearts will follow him through eternity it'll still not be enough to "repay" him for all the goodness he has brought on Earth :-(((

  • Daciana21, such a great comment! You are right, he passed away like almost every genius in human history - disgraced, mostly hated, sad and never fully understood. He was the next level, but sadly, the primitive minds are majority, they just try to downlevel every ray of light, to label it and consume it. Nothing we say and do now will provide redemption.

  • and all he got back was poor judgement and accusations of things he never ever did!!

    and Michael, you will FOREVER be in our hearts and today,because of you, I am a better person.

    THANK YOU MCHAEL JACKSON.

  • First of all..i miss MJ!!

    Second of all..this is a really wonderful and touching speech

    third of all..im really sick of the media..how come they never show the great things like this that Michael does for the children and the world how come?and even if they do they show it in such little print !

    they just focus on stuff like whos the real father of his kids, how come his color changed.for gods sake..the guy died give him a break and remember all the good that he did for this world CONTINUE

  • type in charles thomson evan chandler on your google search box and you'll find some enlightening article.

  • goverment killed micheal jackson and i have proof

  • Really? Damn you got to let me in on that. I already suspected 2Pac was a victim of the real powers that be, and I had my suspicions concerning Mike....

  • I heard about this from Farrahkan in his speech...The Crucifixion of Michael Jackson....Finally I can hear it from Mike himself!

  • Thankyou for this video!

  • You know what? Today my two girlfriends and I ran around outside like a bunch of kindergarteners playing tag, and pretending we were children again. Why? Because Michael helped me realize the importance of childhood and living so innocently. MIchael Jackson changed MY LIFE, not just my Ipod. I miss you so much, Mikeyboo....

  • So wonderful. I love what your wrote here "Michael Jackson changed MY LIFE, not just my Ipod" Oh, that's so true for soooooooooo many of us.

  • Michael Jackson not only gave the world some of the best music and artistry we've ever seen, he also made such a stance on humanitarian causes - such as the Heal The World Foundation. How can anybody dislike this man?

    We miss him like crazy.

  • Michael is so true in what he said. People these days are so concerned with money & wealth that they forget what's really important. That's why Hollywood marriages never last more than a minute lol!

    I think adults sometimes forget what it's like to be a kid and Michael never forgot and that is such a good thing!

    God Bless You Michael!

  • E=Mj squared that made me laugh!

    he is the product of the lack of childhood, and for I can also understand, I was not a childhood singer but I was forced to grow up at the age of 8 when my mother left!

    those things he mentioned are my favorite things still! theres nothing better than just playing makebelieve! many my age have lost their imagination!

  • It is so true, Michael was SO MUCH MORE than just the greatest entertainer of our time. He truely cared about helping EVERYBODY in the world. Michael is such an inspiration for me. He had so much pain and loneliness in his life, but he always managed to help others. For me, he was the essence of a true humanitarian, in every sense of the word.

  • He was so much more than being the King of Pop and The Greatest Entertainer of all Time, he was an incredible human being with a huge heart and there is a now a huge void in the world that will never be filled!!! MIss you Michael

  • What a great speech. Michael your heart is huge... HUUUGE

  • Hide and seeeeek! I would have played with you Michael!!! You will always be the best! You will always be wonderful!

  • Yes Michael went through a tough life..but he himself said he wouldnt change a thing about his life....Im more than sure if he could, he would come back and go through it all again. All the pain and all the sadness. He loved his life, by being the celebrity figure that he was, enabled him to be the humanitarian that he was. He was so innocent and kind because of his lack of childhood. Im not saying that im Glad he was treated that way, but im saying im glad that he was who he was. God bless MJ

  • Hey Michael was a cultured and respectful person.Those people were llucky to see him speak.Michael I`m sorry you had it so bad.I wish things could have been better for your heart.I love you

  • if you have great heart then you will be inspired.

  • the audiences are just so disrespectful to him

  • any idea if this was recorded on film?

  • hope you feel our love MJ

  • Yep, the same way we feel his presence when we hear him.

  • Michael Jackson had a heart of gold. He was pure and innocent. He was persecuted and ridiculed by evil people.

  • I think Michael loves children so much because he never experienced what being a child feels like. Also, children are probably the only ones who don't go after his money.

  • i love him so much i could listen to it every day

  • This was the day i was born

  • 100% well-mannered 100% excellent and elloquent orator 100% genius 100% humble 100% wise 100%caring and heartening 100%magical 100% down-to earth 100% pure and innocent....and so much more.. He was the last true GENTLEMAN!!! Mike, hun, you were an UNIQUE human being and now you are the brightest SPIRIT up there somewhere... We miss you terribly!!! :( ILOVEUMJPAN<3
  • Agree 100%, PYTconchilla.

  • @PYTconchilla AMEN!!

  • awsome speech...viva michael!

  • Whoever did this please can you translate this to spanish? I understand it perfectly but there are so many ignorant people I know that keep judging MJ that if they only understood this, they would change their minds.

  • such a beautiful speech

    i miss him r.i.p Mj

  • Now listening af all 4 parts i'm realy speachless. Michael thank you for these wonderful words this realy wil help people getting a new start in their lives. Thank you Michael Jackson RIP

  • yes i toally agree that we're encouraged to grow fast these days...

    im only 20 and i need to do things that are meant for 30s...as i don't have a choice...i truly cried upon listening to your speech MJ...it's really healing...

  • wonderful words x3 he was an amazing man.

    Rest in peace Michael :-*

  • non of you may have a difficulty to belive, but he mada my childhood much more interesting & nicer... yes he did. he used to heal me with every new song, he did a lot to me, yes we have lost an angel, but personally I have lost someone very important.

  • beautiful words MJ.. you gave a lot to the people in the whole world and they will never forget it. I m proud to have this opportunity to have lived at the same time with such a genius. I will tell my children about u and show them the videos, just like many others..

    RIP from Russia ,(((

  • We call for Michaels vindication by MAINSTREAM MEDIA. MJ was acquitted by a jury in 2005. Not good enough. For his childrens sake, mainstream media must become more responsible. We discuss how truth can compel mainstream media to publicly admit it wrongly accused MJ of despicable crimes. Many people still believe MJ was guilty. They were influenced to believe the allegations by a biased MAINSTREAM MEDIA. No links allowed here so search at Yahoo Groups for "vindication better than tributes."

  • Please check this too,,"Exclusive with Sony/Epic Executives reveals the truth about Michael Jackson". Everyone is entittled to know the truth about this person. Pleae know the truth.

  • por favor el que pueda subtitular al español gracias queremos saber mas de MICHAEL JACKSON Y LOVE YOU...

  • People have always ridiculed me for saying this man is not only my role model, but my biggest inspiration... and this reminds me why I never gave up on him. Never stopped believing in him. And I'll never stop missing this man as long as I live... we lost the last angel on this Earth...

  • Me too ..twilightlullaby. Years ago, ..I defended MJ regardless of consequence. I lost friends ..(well, ..a few acquaintances). People around me were very condesending and told me I was stupid and naive. I stood my ground and now feel proud as at the time I said,.. "in the future you will know. The truth will eventually be revealed...". Although I never thought it would for the most part, ..be the result of MJ's death. :(

    We have "...lost the last angel". It's sad. Tragic. What now?

  • i really hope not the last... but we truly lost an angel

  • Aww, Michael's the most sweetest human being ever! I miss him dearly, and I understand the way he feels. I don't want to grow up too! I want to be a kid forever! xD Soon, I'm going to be in highschool, and then college, and then work & OH GOSH, I don't want to think about it. :(

  • He was a wonderful and beautiful person. His work never will be forgotten. I'm still insipred of every word he said. Merci mille fois, Monsieur Jackson. Et je vous demande mille fois pardon.

  • I would have loved to read Michael's book about childlike qualities. His books are true masterpieces. I wonder if Shmuley is going to release it now.

  • What Michael is saying inspires me to be a good father. I mean I see fathers who never do anything for their kids, they dont play with them or even care for them. But, it takes a true father to come home from a hard day of work and play or ask his kids how their day was. I mean I have seen awful fathers personally and have heard of ones like Joe Jackson who used to hurt Michael all the time. Yet, When I see Michael and people like Steve Irwin being good fathers, it gives me so much optimism.

  • I love Oxford, yet I could never imagine leaving my family to go there. I would be so lonely. God bless Michael!

  • He was awesome, he was both intelligent and funny, he names Elizabeth Taylor and Macaulay Culkin but the first lady dint went to the memorial and the second man, the same, thats hurtful, he believed in them and they just didnt care about him.

  • Of corse they cared they were his only true friends. - They were at his ACTUAL PRIVATE funeral last night. When the people who REALLY knew him were. Liz didn't want to go to a public memorial, not sure if Mac was there we don't hear about everyone who was there.

  • Yes i know, i prejudged them, sorry, they were good to him

  • i love how he says childhood

    chile hurd

  • Damn, I wish I was at Oxford uni then

  • We support complete vindication of MJ by mainstream media. MJ was exonerated by a jury. Not good enough. For his childrens sake, the media must become more responsible. We discuss how truth can compel the media to publicly admit it wrongly accused MJ of despicable crimes. Many people still believe MJ was guilty. They were influenced to believe the allegations were true by a biased media. Please join us. No links allowed here, so search at Yahoo Groups for "vindication better than tributes."

  • when kermit the frog speaks i listen.

  • He knew how to sing, he knew how to dance and he knew how to tell a story... And he was much,much more, of course...

  • **Must See** Inside Michael Jackson's Trial:

    youtube . com/watch?v=ZltgIIK4A4Y

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  • Thank you so much for the link to the Inside Michael Jackson's Trial documentary.

    I had never seen it before and it was VERY VERY eye opening.

    Gavin's mother is to blame, not Gavin. He had terminal cancer and was manipulated by his mother who had all the power.

    The mother was the adult- she should have known better. May she reap what she has sown.

  • i definetely agree.. please help spread the word about the documentary!

  • also read michael jackson conspiracy by aphrodite jones

  • I second this. Aphrodite Jones' book is a must-read.

  • happy birthday michael, so smart and pure

  • "It's not easy being green." man SOOOO true SOOO true. I loved Hermit and I loved Michael.

  • Kermit lol

  • 7:23 OMG so true so true! sadly I can relate, how can I watch this further I´m even crying now!!! Michael was brave enough to speak about such sensitiv topics. may your beautifull soul now rest in piece!

  • i am in awe.

  • Everyone be sure to watch all 4 segments - you won't regret it!! A beautiful soul and a true gift to all of us who have been blessed to live in his lifetime. <3

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  • that s true, even if I have never seen him in life I am happy to have lived in his lifetime :)

    (..even if it had been much better to meet him...)

    I have this speech written and I will read it again and again. Especially when I will have childen :)

    he is great

  • is ther Video footage of it?He was reading ?