Self Enquiry is for You -Mooji - 3

[SeekersFind]

When I ask "Who am I?" then "Who asked this?" I seem to fall back behind my mind, as if watching the mind from the distance. The mind beomces like a movie screen projected out from a very still place of darkness. The place of darkness seems rounded, as if a silent being abides in still meditation.

If this what one is to experience in self-enquiry?

[thehellodaisy]

Cheers Mooji, Blessings

[Agiantamongu]

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[LooksAeterna]

"The warmth" of it is there before the question even starts.

The question cannot successfully "go after it". The whole world activity appears on the basis of the prior presence, hence it cannot "lead there". The aim of the enquiry is its own cessation. If the finger just rests in the air and doesn't point anywhere in particular, it "shows up".

[BenjaminSmythe]

Tricky.

[PigeonFwaBorgon]

Hello, Mooji, I'm not sure if you will get this but I have a few questions about self enquiry. 1. I have been self-enquiring for the past 6 months and I always have the doubt of not doing it correctly, what should I do? 2. I am confused with "I am not the body" notion, for ex. If my body is meant to do bad things i.g. murder, steal etc. when I reach self-realization, will I have no control over my body? Thank you Mooji for your time & grace.

[sraddawa]

Happy Wesak Mooji!

[jesal21]

I take the enquiry very seriously and I think Mooji's teachings are very interesting to say the least. However I still have one serious question that hasn't been answered: How does any of this escape the notion of self conditioning? i.e Convincing ourselves of its existence when we have only conjured this "state of mind" ourselves?

[Moojiji]

Anything the mind conjures up is impermanent. It will not last. This is how you'll discover if you have fallen for what you call self conditioning or if you have discovered the truth. The truth is permanent, unchanging. It is also outside the domain of the mind. That is why the truth can't be conditioned. The truth, however, can condition mind. A mind conditioned by truth is truth itself.

[Moojiji]

This means to convey that you must find out who the conditioner of mind is. What is mind? Does any of this exist? Or are these just concepts we use to point to that which lies beyond the reach of conceptual ways of knowing? Any condition is witnessed by you. What is left when you discard everything you know, everything you can quantify, any quality you can ascribe? Looking backwards discarding as not this, not that all that which is quantifiable, describable, nameable, will reveal the Self . . .

[Moojiji]

. . . which you'll discover is nothing you have created. It's always been there. Your doubts will disappear in the light of this discovery. Stay there.

[jesal21]

Thank you for your response. My worry is that as well as a truth being able to condition the mind, the mind itself is also capable of conditioning itself; hypnotizing itself - permanently if so be it. The process is one of negation - not this, not this, and it is entirely regressive . My state of consciousness alters, at one moment I am empty and ubiquitous and the next I am engrossed in "the ego". To stay in one would be to take preference but ultimately are they not both plays of each-other?

[Moojiji]

I suggest you find out what the mind is. What power is this that you refer to as mind? Are you not witnessing worry, hypnosis of mind, ego, and what your state of consciousness is like? From what place are you taking these notes? Is the note taker not also a thought and what is witnessing that one? The process of negation is no process at all. It is no homework for you to do, but rather it is a reminder of what your true nature is like. (Continued)

[Moojiji]

The Self is the effortless reality that is behind all and is not touched by anything in your experience. This is what the negation not this, not that, is supposed to remind you of. Without this power we call the Self nothing else could exist. No experience is sentient. Stay as the Self. --- zenji

[jesal21]

I seem to reach a state but then fall, reach and then fall, reach and fall endlessly. The whole thing seems to be like a self induced hoax like I've just fallen victim to a load of subtle intellectual baggage. I know of the truth but it seems to make itself evasive - its an "obvious subtlety". I know I am "chasing" awareness itself, in its purity and entirety and I see it and feel it but see nothing special within it apart from a curious sense of nothingness - at times. It is "not this" also?

[Moojiji]

Reaching a state and falling from it is the movement of mind. Truth is not hidden. Belief in thought, looking to thought is the cause for this apparent evasion. You cant chase awareness by looking to thoughts, which produce your experiences through belief in them. Awareness is already present, for if it werent you would lack the capacity to speak about your findings. There is no problem with experiences. (Continued)

[Moojiji]

Not this, not that, which is the negation that youve mentioned before is to find out that the boundaries you draw up through mental concepts, through thoughts, are not real. When you realize that you are the Awareness-Self, than not this, not that is also part of you, but not with the solidity with which you know this now. --- zenji

[infinitestate]

Thank you Mooji :)

[nomindbeats]

thanks mooji:) i really like that simile of the "hand mirror.." awesome!

[alevan1]

Just wanted to say thank you for your wisdom Mooji! I have been on this journey of self discovery for many years it has been a slow process. Can you share some light on handling the ego especially in confrontation, it seems to get the better of me before I have a chance to direct it to a more positive light its like the negative always comes first and I am watching it and then I turn it around and the damage is done, how can I stop it before?

Thanks

[dianaroo12]

thank you moojiji!

[Lehmann108]

Mooji,

I have been practicing a mantra meditation for many years. It produces deep, profound bliss. When I do Atma Vichara, I become very, very quite and almost all thoughts stop except for the "I" thought, but it just sits there. Afterwards I'm very quiet, but Self? I don't know.

[HYPNOSISWORKS123]

The lady was very sharp. She saw for herself that what happens... happens on it's own. There is no control... only the witnessing of the illusion of control. Mike

[calibre369]

thank you!

[PhilosopherFresh]

mooji seems like a wonderful man!

[Blobblob22]

Would you know when Mooji will be in London conducting satsang again?

Thanks