so, what happens when your job not setup for gps,,,,,Blue Tops.... I've been runnin blades 25 plus years, seen more than one hand run off cuz he could'nt finish. I can 2D, 3D, and No D, nothin works like a bubble in your ass
This is the old System 5. It will correct 100 times per second, so u have to go slow. The new 3D MC systems will correct 1000 times per second and will keep up as fast as the machine will go.
@jerelsilva no you set the blade on a benchmark every morning to zero it out like a scale. they are nice toys but not all that practical very often and can sometimes get u in to trouble if something goes wrong. i.e. you lose signal or the satelittes arent alingned you need three satellite to make it work
yes and no top con systems run like a dream when they work but when they play up holy shit!! interference, repeater probs, satalites droping out, faulty lasers you name it ive seen it. jobs should always be set up with pegs as a back up
We did the airport in Mn and was a complete restoration of the existing runways. Surveyors pink topped the sub and with a 14H and GPS we had a tolerance of 0.00/0.02 over 2'200' by 60'w . 6" of granite base course and 4" mix. We won an award for the prodject and couldn't have done it without GPS outfitted on our earthmoving equipment. Made me a firm believer in the technology.
I am very fond of the system myself, although I haven't got to use one much. In your case that was a perfect job for the GPS, with the straight runs and all. And now overun with all that concrete to pour.
yeah, pretty much a kid from circle k can run a blade if it has electronics, we call them monkeys in the seat. try it the old school way and that separates the phonies from the real hands. 3rd gear??? yeah, maybe on a flat long stretch but the blade will duck walk and then they'll send the good blademan to go in and do it right. i know, cause i do it everyday.
no, thats how a wannabe operates now days. dont get your feelings hurt but you have a lot to learn. hunerd and something thousand??? why spend that when ONE can do it with a few stakes and a lot of experience. you sound foolish kid. might want to ditch this video....
i hear ya on this electronics stuff man i lay a lot of sewer, water, and storm drain and lasers are becoming so popular for pipelayers but an good pipelayer can stil do it faster with stringlines. no one hardly even knows what a flo-liner is anymore yet its used to double check the accuracy of lasers go figure!!!
underground is hard work! i could have been too hard on these guys but im not too keen on someone saying "not much to it" it takes a lot of work and skill to get good at anything you do. ill never lose respect for the machines or men who taught me and i learn something new everyday. glad to hear you run underground the old fashion way:) enjoy your sunday...
it sure is nice to hear someone else say i learn something new everyday. as long as we keep up that attitude we know whos gunna get better at whatever they do.
Yeah I don't think that blade hand I was filming knew what he was talking about, lol. That was the first time I had seen a GPS. I was the one filming not operating the blade. I just thought ya'll might like to see a GPS. I would never spend that much money on one.
I've never ran the Topcon, but have the Trimble. We have strict tolerances of one tenth on roads and slopes and half a tenth on pads, which you have to go slow to achieve. I've operated a new 12M w/ GPS and it was hard for it to keep up in 3rd gear, and the M-series are quick. The Trimble GPS has different views of the job plans, like the profile, which is the best view for grading slopes and roads.
Great video of how the Topcon operates, I would love to compare the Topcon to Trimble.
It's easy to use once it has been programed. It takes about a week to do. The only way I see it usefull is for very large applications like lots of roads or big lot areas. I have not got a chance to use it enough to really know.
Yeah I talked to a few operators out here during one of our government projects where we were cutting and paving a road for them, he said the GPS system was really only practical for big lot areas or long straight shoots.
I still get out there all the time and set hubs all by myself, no other guys can keep up with me. Just my trusty hub bucket and banjoo, we can keep a good operator busy all day if he doesn't knock out my damn hubs.
That's a very clever piece of kit. Is it hard to use? It makes life a lot easier, but do you think it's removing the skill from the job of operating equipment. Still a great thing to have and use though!
so, what happens when your job not setup for gps,,,,,Blue Tops.... I've been runnin blades 25 plus years, seen more than one hand run off cuz he could'nt finish. I can 2D, 3D, and No D, nothin works like a bubble in your ass
rockstardad01 2 months ago
Yes, pretty much always use bluetops. This company mainly just used GPS for big big dirtjobs.
cjminokc 2 months ago
that system is bad ass. i operate a 18 year old grader for the state of florida dot only computer i have is in my head would love to try one of those
corghhh 5 months ago
This is the old System 5. It will correct 100 times per second, so u have to go slow. The new 3D MC systems will correct 1000 times per second and will keep up as fast as the machine will go.
cjminokc 5 months ago
The Kellogg Report website maintains a feature-for-feature comparison of Topcon, Leica, Trimble, AccuGrade and Prolec 3D machine control systems.
TheKelloggReport 1 year ago
Is it me or one of the guys sounds exctly like the character "Bruce" from "Family Guy"?
Hpangirl 1 year ago
@Hpangirl id say "Cleveland"!
NeedleInTheGroove1 11 months ago
TOPCON FTW
MOVE THAT DIRT
ThatBladeMan 1 year ago
This crap never works for me. I can do it by hand just as fast, plus it looks a lot better. This gps makes stupid humps in the grade.
TheMango121 1 year ago
thanks for the video, the GPS looks simple to operate, I know the blade isn't I've been learning for the last couple weeks, harder than looks.
jmsmoot 2 years ago
I don't care for em much myself, I'm a dozer hand.
cjminokc 2 years ago
do you have to adjust the system as your edges wear down or can it adjust itself?
jerelsilva 2 years ago
I'm not sure I was just learning about the system myself. I havent got to see one since this. Some one out there may know and reply to this comment.
cjminokc 2 years ago
@jerelsilva no you set the blade on a benchmark every morning to zero it out like a scale. they are nice toys but not all that practical very often and can sometimes get u in to trouble if something goes wrong. i.e. you lose signal or the satelittes arent alingned you need three satellite to make it work
cudarat 2 years ago
yes and no top con systems run like a dream when they work but when they play up holy shit!! interference, repeater probs, satalites droping out, faulty lasers you name it ive seen it. jobs should always be set up with pegs as a back up
rpag01 2 years ago
We did the airport in Mn and was a complete restoration of the existing runways. Surveyors pink topped the sub and with a 14H and GPS we had a tolerance of 0.00/0.02 over 2'200' by 60'w . 6" of granite base course and 4" mix. We won an award for the prodject and couldn't have done it without GPS outfitted on our earthmoving equipment. Made me a firm believer in the technology.
frontlinefever 3 years ago
I am very fond of the system myself, although I haven't got to use one much. In your case that was a perfect job for the GPS, with the straight runs and all. And now overun with all that concrete to pour.
cjminokc 3 years ago
I don't care how fancy the electronics are, it takes a real hand to place the dirt where it needs to be before the GPS should even be used
ScrprLzrd 3 years ago
I agree.
cjminokc 3 years ago
yeah, pretty much a kid from circle k can run a blade if it has electronics, we call them monkeys in the seat. try it the old school way and that separates the phonies from the real hands. 3rd gear??? yeah, maybe on a flat long stretch but the blade will duck walk and then they'll send the good blademan to go in and do it right. i know, cause i do it everyday.
panhead55 3 years ago
no, thats how a wannabe operates now days. dont get your feelings hurt but you have a lot to learn. hunerd and something thousand??? why spend that when ONE can do it with a few stakes and a lot of experience. you sound foolish kid. might want to ditch this video....
panhead55 3 years ago
i hear ya on this electronics stuff man i lay a lot of sewer, water, and storm drain and lasers are becoming so popular for pipelayers but an good pipelayer can stil do it faster with stringlines. no one hardly even knows what a flo-liner is anymore yet its used to double check the accuracy of lasers go figure!!!
Hduppln 3 years ago
underground is hard work! i could have been too hard on these guys but im not too keen on someone saying "not much to it" it takes a lot of work and skill to get good at anything you do. ill never lose respect for the machines or men who taught me and i learn something new everyday. glad to hear you run underground the old fashion way:) enjoy your sunday...
panhead55 3 years ago
it sure is nice to hear someone else say i learn something new everyday. as long as we keep up that attitude we know whos gunna get better at whatever they do.
Hduppln 3 years ago
It's the way of the future, one day we will not have a choice.
cjminokc 3 years ago
yeah, and maybe he was just demonstrating it too and not trying to make critical grade. sometimes i can be a prick blademan. no harm intended:)
panhead55 3 years ago
Yeah I don't think that blade hand I was filming knew what he was talking about, lol. That was the first time I had seen a GPS. I was the one filming not operating the blade. I just thought ya'll might like to see a GPS. I would never spend that much money on one.
cjminokc 3 years ago
Your'e damn right!
cjminokc 3 years ago
very great video!
equipmentfan93 4 years ago
Thanks again buddy.
cjminokc 4 years ago
I've never ran the Topcon, but have the Trimble. We have strict tolerances of one tenth on roads and slopes and half a tenth on pads, which you have to go slow to achieve. I've operated a new 12M w/ GPS and it was hard for it to keep up in 3rd gear, and the M-series are quick. The Trimble GPS has different views of the job plans, like the profile, which is the best view for grading slopes and roads.
Great video of how the Topcon operates, I would love to compare the Topcon to Trimble.
355ciSB 4 years ago
I wouldn't know myself but would like to try the new M model motor grader. Would like to get some time with that GPS too.
cjminokc 4 years ago
It's easy to use once it has been programed. It takes about a week to do. The only way I see it usefull is for very large applications like lots of roads or big lot areas. I have not got a chance to use it enough to really know.
cjminokc 4 years ago
Yeah I talked to a few operators out here during one of our government projects where we were cutting and paving a road for them, he said the GPS system was really only practical for big lot areas or long straight shoots.
I still get out there all the time and set hubs all by myself, no other guys can keep up with me. Just my trusty hub bucket and banjoo, we can keep a good operator busy all day if he doesn't knock out my damn hubs.
Hate looking back to see all my hubs ripped out.
spongaweb 3 years ago
That's a very clever piece of kit. Is it hard to use? It makes life a lot easier, but do you think it's removing the skill from the job of operating equipment. Still a great thing to have and use though!
solar140 4 years ago
cool
how long have u used that??
gooddriver22 4 years ago
That was only my second time to see one.
cjminokc 4 years ago
i all ways wondered how those things worked now i know thanks for another great video keep up the good work and thanks for shareing.
irishmanO1 4 years ago
Thanks glad u enjoyed it.
cjminokc 4 years ago
WOW!!! I must say, I'm impressed! I've got some neat features on my grader, but I don't have anything like that. Great video buddy, keep 'em coming!
kreyzeekrey 4 years ago
Thanks, you need one to. You could program your whole county and the grades, and just cruise around all day,lol.
cjminokc 4 years ago