ok so the thumbnail for this clip spoilers Dessler still alive and all, and when we finally get here there's not even a scare chord or anything to mark it?
From what I've seen of it on youtube it was just boring. Not quite sure why it has such critical acclaim. Some of Yamato is likewise quite dry but there is certainly has some emotional weight at points.
I don't think it's boring, but lots of confused lecture in it for sure. Warped interpretation on the Western history as well. Fans should rather read "War and Peace"...
Meh, personally what I saw the ships were lackluster, the combat was even moreso. Little rectangular ships firing guass rounds or somethign out of a bunch of little holes.
If you want to watch a space opera with some sweet battles and some very hard hitting emotional impact check out Gunbuster. There are certainly some cheesy moments in it and some episodes are better than others and damn is that senior pilot an annoying cry baby, but no anime has brought me closer to tears than that one.
Hmmn, I'm pretty sure the Gunbuster chick is at least 17-18. Besides, children fighting in a war zone is a staple of reality and past history including WW2. Such as the Hitler Youth brigades or even people volunteering and lying about their age to be accepted.
It is one of the realities of the human condition that in which you find appeal in the Yamato series.
Stop calling women or girls chick. Are men roosters in your world? So, is there "Hitler" in Gunbuster? Does it communicate the evil and tragedy of Nazi youth movement and recruiting child soldiers, or does it glamorize the battling kids? Children/youth should study all they can and prepare for the best future possible, not fantasize or take excitement in killing human lives.
So what, Desler is Hitler? Nice analogy except you forget one thing, the Japanese fought WITH Hitler not against him. The Yamato was the last hope for an Empire which had occupied, raped, tortured and murdered hundred of thousands of people throughout Asia including China and South Korea. See "Rape of Nanking". In fact Japan had started it's war in 36 or something before Hitler even launched his own war of aggression so please, the Yamato has LITTLE to do with WW2 at all.
You also miss the point. That children VOLUNTEERED for ALL ARMIES, including allied ones when they were under aged. I don't know if Japan had child soldiers, when I googled all I found was articles about japanese forcing children into sexual slavery.
Gunbuster doesn't make underage soldiers glamorous. In fact if anything the main character is isolated and alone through getting involved in the war in the first place. It's as much anti-war as SBYamato except with an even more personal focus.
Of course Yamato is not the wholesome depicit of WW2 or what Japan did, but the serious feeling and tension is there, along with serious messages. And I meant under-age combatants, not volunteers. Gunbuster looks like a joke to me comparing to Yamato. Many battle animes from mid-80's were in mocking mode already. I think that kind of works make people call girls chick.
A lot of Gunbuster is tongue-in-cheek, silly sort of mega robot combat but there are some very serious undertones about loss and war. I don't think I've ever heard "chick" in an anime, I often call men/boys "guys" or "dudes", what's the difference? It's not derogatory.
SBB Yamato is an anime with a general anti-war mindset/theme born from living in a post-war Japan which uses a WW2 ship. The similarities to WW2 end there in my opinion.
The term "chick" sounds degrading young women or girls.
In my opinion, Yamato contains the desparate feeling of facing the imminent, overwhelming attacks by massively mightier enemy and the deep sorrow from the unprecedented, unthinkable loss or defeat. It's that desparate feeling in the air which reminds WW2, not just the ships or means of battle.
@Hesuku Yes. There is another element about WWII in it as well: the depiction of fascism and suicide missions. The ambiguous and contradictory takes on it, honoring the self-sacrifice but at the same time putting in doubt the sense of them gives this anime a lot of depth. Maybe 80s anime lack this sense since the people making them were farther away from WWII?
That was the only way to fill the time of episode 26. I wished to see more scenes of Planet Earth recovering, instead of turning the planet blue only in a few seconds! Clean air also brings back water so quickly?:-)
Yeah but post war reconstruction is boring. See the bonus Macross episodes for a prime example of this. Macross was originally supposed to end with the destruction of Dolza's fleet and the Macross returning to Earth (along with Hikaru/Rick rescuing Misa/Lisa). Then they decided to extend the season so we've got all this reconstruction stuff and quite frankly it's a few notches in enjoyability below the original slate of episodes.
Well, it really depends how you describe it. It should usually ends with the main characters' wedding:-) Macross lacks the seriousness seen in works like Yamato.
Macross has a more light-hearted tone and in many ways attempts to poke fun at Yamato, Gundam and the like but there are certainly some dark, serious elements to it. More people die in Macross for one thing, both main characters and general populace.
On the other hand, there are no skirt-lifting robots nor continually drunk doctors on Macross either.
It's a lot easier to say, "Billions perished in a second" than to describe the individual agony caused in wars. In Yamato, humour was accessory to rather too-serious drama. But it's a grave insult to real combatants to let a single song by a downright selfish girl determine the outcome of war.
I mean the seriousness of situation and emotion, not of "realisticality". Neither anime is realistic. In Yamato, Planet Earth is in collapse; what can you except from the only surviving warship and her young crew?
Minmei btw didn't win the war. The Macross and its Zentraedi allies won the war. Minmei only gave them a brief advantage in initiative and boost in morale which they subsequently capitalized upon.
Also losing your entire planetary population isn't exactly what I would call a victory.
Don't get me wrong. I like Yamato. But there are a lot of things about it which are not serious. I mean, why for example do they talk about Earth has X days left all the time and then pass over the last 200 days?
And for the record Macross does focus on the individual agony of war. The death of Ben Dixon, the death of Roy Fokker, Hikaru becoming injured, Hikaru killing a humanoid looking alien for the first time. I mean none of the main "good" characters in Yamato even die aside from Okita. Where is the personal loss? Or right the guy's brother, but then, in the end he isn't lost he's just magically transported to an alien paradise. The only real personal loss in the whole series is the guy's parents.
I see your point on Yamato and Macross. I guess the difference between Yamato and all others for me is: Yamato reminds a lot of thoughts and things, even wishful things, of actual WW2 where as other war sci-fi animes look merely pure fantasies.
Not so. We experience and re-live the griefs of actual history through works like "Yamato". It helps to understand some psyche actually existed in WW2 and afterwards, and therefore helps us understand why we are where we are at. And "Yamato" always had very good message to digest, not just emotional impacts.
Yamato has very little to do with WW2 aside from the ship itself and the one episode against Domel which bared similarity to a real life ww2 battle. But yes, a lot of anime, Yamato included, examine the human condition and the reality that is war and its causes and effects upon people.
Yamato drags on the memory of actual WW2 as long as she is the only hope left for mankind as the real Senkan Yamato was for the Japanese people. The corralation is seen everywhere throughout the first season. I may not be 100% right, but "Yamato" is one of the few sci-fi war anime based on something actual, not the existing literary works.
Just to reinforce it. China lost 10-20 million people in WW2 including up to 16 million civilians. Japan lost 2.7 million with .5 million civilian deaths. Did Germany fight in China? I don't think so.
If you want SB Yamato to represent WW2, it would start with the EDF wiping out Gamilus as in ep24 and THEN the Gamilians retaliating with meteor bombs. The only similarity to WW2 is the re-use of the ship Yamato. SBY has NOTHING to do with the WW2 japanese history and experience.
Again, my point was not the role of actual nations, but the seriousness of the single-hearted, mature characters facing the enormous enemy/problem in the midst of battles in either side, just like in WW2. Other war anime works look lacking it; they look playful comparing to Yamato.
To be frank, a robot continually lifting a girl's skirt is about as immature as you can get in anime and appeals to very lowest common denominator.
I understand what you're saying but don't dismiss other stories out of hand because the characters actually have light hearted moments. You have to remember that even soldiers had moments of laughter between battles. Stories like Macross and Gunbuster certainly have silly moments but they have the serious messages as well, just as Yamato is silly.
By example, Gunbuster uses "time dilation". So when the heroine goes off to battle, they may be gone for six months but when they get back 10-12 years have past. This leaves the main character basically alone, all of her friends have grown up and have children of her own, her family is gone. She basically doesn't fit in anymore. This paralells the feeling that many soldiers feel when they return from war. They experience war, return to their homeland and find that they don't truly belong anymore
I didn't dismiss other stories. I mean to talk about trees of the matter and not branches. So your favorite anime has some serious war aspect, although it looks like space extention of girls' valleyball tornament. What I feel is, after Yamato, war anime concentrate too much on petty self-esteem with too much political agenda. I can't find selfless heroes/heroines like Susumu...
Selfless? The guy joins the military to get revenge against the enemy that killed his parents. If his motivations were selfless he would have joined before his parents were killed and before Japan was even attacked (ie like his brother). Or at least, he would have been interested in joining since he was too young at that age. And one thing both Macross and Gunbuster have is the horror of war and its effects on characters. Susumu acts more like rambo, not a human being. (ie battle vs the tanks)
Susumu was growing into maturity in this first series. Yamato has 3 TV series and 4 movies in 10-year-span, remember? I'm yet to find so beautiful-hearted Earth defenders like Susumu and Yamato characters. I think they are what true soldiers meant to be...
But she's been dead for quite hours! Dr. Sado made a mistake on Cpt. Okita according to "Final Yamato," and things like this really do happen; you just never know. I don't understand why producers made Yuki "dead" though. Maybe they wanted to show the depth of Susmu and Yuki's love for each other dramatically. You give up your own life for what you believe in or what you consider the most precious, and it stirs our deepest emotion when we witness it, if it's done for a noble cause.
Yeah I understand the need for an emotional impact but having the chick dead for hours and then re-gaining life through the soul of Captain Okita was not emotional, it was just pretty dumb. She's a human being like anyone else and needs oxygen or her brain will become damaged. Maybe if they just had her in a coma and "effectively dead" but on lifesupport it would've been more plausible.
I don't understand how Desler is suppose to survive to Season2 anyway. Just kill the guy off already.
Yuki is not a chick, just an 18-year-old girl. Her returning to life has nothing to do with Cpt. Okita's death according to the producer's novel. I agree with you on the absurdity of Yuki being "dead," but it's Yamato world, man. Dr. Sado must have made a mistake again, being drunk or something!
I don't know what the novel says but it's pretty clear from the staging in the anime that his soul is meant to revitalise her body. Okita says "I don't know where my soul will go" or something like that, then when he dies it focuses on his face, and then switches to Yuki and she revives. It's an obvious and frankly absurd connection. I don't know if this how it was in the manga/novels or what, but it was one of the lower points of the series imo.
Okita's wonder is humanity's all-time question, nothing new or special. I don't recall anime in that era preaching about souls ever being switchable. The novel seemed to describe the Creator God's providence. And Cpt. Okita wasn't really, really dead anyway. (See "Final Yamato.") Overall, I think this Yamato ending is very good. A lot of things beyond human understanding happen in our real world anyway.
Personally I think it could have been better. I mean Desler coming back from certain death to attack them only to be presumably killed again (but as anyone who's started season 2 knows . . .). Or why didn't the guy attack them on Iscandar? Why didn't they detect him on Radar?
Overall I thought the episode was pretty random and didn't really deliver. I appreciate what they were trying to do but it wasn't executed in a convincing manner. Same goes for everything after the battle at Gamilus.
Koalabrownie(I like your user name, by the way!), you must understand that a lot of good(or bad) anime were cut short because their airing didn't help the sponcers' business. If Yamato had more fund, it'd have more episodes and less bizzarre things. Life goes on, chap. It takes time to mobilize and get ready to launch a new attack in war, by the way. Yamato was really, really fortunate!
No I understand animation, I do work in the field (though in North american not asia), so I understand that things are done for certain budgets and so on. And yamato, like any series had good episodes and bad, and somethings were well executed and some things were poorly executed. The hotshot's flashback to his parents and the episode with the callbacks to earth were both well done and had emotional impact. Some of battles were good too. Like anything, its hit and miss but overall good show.
If we are talking about holes, there'd be no end! Recent-made sci-fi movies for general audience look filled with the very illogical holes. I don't think we are getting smarter, not at all.
Starsha was crying saying in her heart, "Thank you, thank you, the people of earth, for leaving me such a beautiful gift!"
When Susumu said to Yuki, "Now it's our turn(Not "off to earth!")," after saying good-bye to the couple, Yuki actually said, "What do you mean?" and Susumu was stuck in words because he realized he sounded proposing to her. How cute...!
Why didn't the captain stay there for radiation sickness since they were on planet Iscandar for 11 days. His older brother stayed on the planet to repopulate.
if iscandar has amazing medical technology in the last episode, why didn't the captain stay there for 'radiation sickness?' i'm sure he could've found a ride back to earth at a later time, iscandar must have ships, starsha said they simply chose not to move to a new planet.
Dessler is a persistent one, I'll give him that.
Kerorofan1990 1 month ago
This is similar to the English Remasters, I like the American voices and names though.
snowdog03 3 months ago
Epic
RobloxPowerhalo 6 months ago
Aaah, this guy doesn't know when to quit. Dai kirai desu.
LarixusSnydes 7 months ago in playlist SPACE BATTLESHIP YAMATO ( UCHUU SENKAN YAMATO
ok so the thumbnail for this clip spoilers Dessler still alive and all, and when we finally get here there's not even a scare chord or anything to mark it?
LordAaronus 11 months ago
1:17 Why is someone hugging it?
galloway6204 1 year ago
@galloway6204 I think he's stretching, saying yay, or shouting to the crew.
LunaRindou 1 year ago
RESTISTANCE IS FUTILE!!!!!!! INCREDIBLE!!!|
uqbal1 1 year ago
I LIKE the whip to keep the bitches in line!:)
vlunney 1 year ago
HESUKU = Mr.Know It All
tsubaki248 1 year ago
@tsubaki248 I'm a woman ;-) I breathed and lived Yamato in my teenage years. Hehe.
Hesuku 4 months ago
"Resistance is futile..." Copy of "Star Trek The first contact" movie..?
yolauempleo1 1 year ago
@yolauempleo1 More likely Star Trek copied this. This came out in the 70's. And First Contact was in the 90's
shawdawg28 1 year ago
Storm troopers boarding a ship.
A man with a black cape leading them.
Defenders on both sides of the passageway.
Where have I seen this before?
Remember "Yamato" was made in 1974-75
MARK1HOE 2 years ago 2
Eh, everyone borrows from everyone else. Star Wars borrows more heavily from Akira Kurosawa films. See "The Hidden Palace" for example.
Similarily I'm sure Yamato had it's influences whether deliberate or subconscious.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
You're right. "The Legend of Galactic Heroes" anime took ideas from Tolstoy's "War and Peace" for sure, no doubt. It's "Space War and Peace"!!
Hesuku 2 years ago
From what I've seen of it on youtube it was just boring. Not quite sure why it has such critical acclaim. Some of Yamato is likewise quite dry but there is certainly has some emotional weight at points.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
I don't think it's boring, but lots of confused lecture in it for sure. Warped interpretation on the Western history as well. Fans should rather read "War and Peace"...
Hesuku 2 years ago
Meh, personally what I saw the ships were lackluster, the combat was even moreso. Little rectangular ships firing guass rounds or somethign out of a bunch of little holes.
If you want to watch a space opera with some sweet battles and some very hard hitting emotional impact check out Gunbuster. There are certainly some cheesy moments in it and some episodes are better than others and damn is that senior pilot an annoying cry baby, but no anime has brought me closer to tears than that one.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
I personally don't like watching under-age children fighting in war zone.
Hesuku 2 years ago
Hmmn, I'm pretty sure the Gunbuster chick is at least 17-18. Besides, children fighting in a war zone is a staple of reality and past history including WW2. Such as the Hitler Youth brigades or even people volunteering and lying about their age to be accepted.
It is one of the realities of the human condition that in which you find appeal in the Yamato series.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Stop calling women or girls chick. Are men roosters in your world? So, is there "Hitler" in Gunbuster? Does it communicate the evil and tragedy of Nazi youth movement and recruiting child soldiers, or does it glamorize the battling kids? Children/youth should study all they can and prepare for the best future possible, not fantasize or take excitement in killing human lives.
Hesuku 2 years ago
So what, Desler is Hitler? Nice analogy except you forget one thing, the Japanese fought WITH Hitler not against him. The Yamato was the last hope for an Empire which had occupied, raped, tortured and murdered hundred of thousands of people throughout Asia including China and South Korea. See "Rape of Nanking". In fact Japan had started it's war in 36 or something before Hitler even launched his own war of aggression so please, the Yamato has LITTLE to do with WW2 at all.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
You also miss the point. That children VOLUNTEERED for ALL ARMIES, including allied ones when they were under aged. I don't know if Japan had child soldiers, when I googled all I found was articles about japanese forcing children into sexual slavery.
Gunbuster doesn't make underage soldiers glamorous. In fact if anything the main character is isolated and alone through getting involved in the war in the first place. It's as much anti-war as SBYamato except with an even more personal focus.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Of course Yamato is not the wholesome depicit of WW2 or what Japan did, but the serious feeling and tension is there, along with serious messages. And I meant under-age combatants, not volunteers. Gunbuster looks like a joke to me comparing to Yamato. Many battle animes from mid-80's were in mocking mode already. I think that kind of works make people call girls chick.
Hesuku 2 years ago
A lot of Gunbuster is tongue-in-cheek, silly sort of mega robot combat but there are some very serious undertones about loss and war. I don't think I've ever heard "chick" in an anime, I often call men/boys "guys" or "dudes", what's the difference? It's not derogatory.
SBB Yamato is an anime with a general anti-war mindset/theme born from living in a post-war Japan which uses a WW2 ship. The similarities to WW2 end there in my opinion.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
The term "chick" sounds degrading young women or girls.
In my opinion, Yamato contains the desparate feeling of facing the imminent, overwhelming attacks by massively mightier enemy and the deep sorrow from the unprecedented, unthinkable loss or defeat. It's that desparate feeling in the air which reminds WW2, not just the ships or means of battle.
Hesuku 2 years ago
Unscarred mainlanders may not be able to easily imagine this desparation...
Hesuku 2 years ago
@Hesuku Yes. There is another element about WWII in it as well: the depiction of fascism and suicide missions. The ambiguous and contradictory takes on it, honoring the self-sacrifice but at the same time putting in doubt the sense of them gives this anime a lot of depth. Maybe 80s anime lack this sense since the people making them were farther away from WWII?
hugoestr 2 years ago
It came as quite a shock to my daughter that Dessler was still alive and kicking! Nice surprise!
Restitutus 2 years ago
That was the only way to fill the time of episode 26. I wished to see more scenes of Planet Earth recovering, instead of turning the planet blue only in a few seconds! Clean air also brings back water so quickly?:-)
Hesuku 2 years ago
Yeah but post war reconstruction is boring. See the bonus Macross episodes for a prime example of this. Macross was originally supposed to end with the destruction of Dolza's fleet and the Macross returning to Earth (along with Hikaru/Rick rescuing Misa/Lisa). Then they decided to extend the season so we've got all this reconstruction stuff and quite frankly it's a few notches in enjoyability below the original slate of episodes.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Well, it really depends how you describe it. It should usually ends with the main characters' wedding:-) Macross lacks the seriousness seen in works like Yamato.
Hesuku 2 years ago
Macross has a more light-hearted tone and in many ways attempts to poke fun at Yamato, Gundam and the like but there are certainly some dark, serious elements to it. More people die in Macross for one thing, both main characters and general populace.
On the other hand, there are no skirt-lifting robots nor continually drunk doctors on Macross either.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
It's a lot easier to say, "Billions perished in a second" than to describe the individual agony caused in wars. In Yamato, humour was accessory to rather too-serious drama. But it's a grave insult to real combatants to let a single song by a downright selfish girl determine the outcome of war.
Hesuku 2 years ago
Eh, if you want to talk about seriousness we'll talk about seriousness. How about affronts to miltary values:
-18 year old officers becoming acting captains
-Bridge officers doubling as fighter pilots.
-Acting Captains abandoning their ships in the middle of a battle to fly solo in a fighter.
-What about the general lack of any clear chain of command. Or even when the guy's the acting captain he doesn't even sit in the captain's chair.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
I mean the seriousness of situation and emotion, not of "realisticality". Neither anime is realistic. In Yamato, Planet Earth is in collapse; what can you except from the only surviving warship and her young crew?
Hesuku 2 years ago
-The Yamato is able to repair damage mid field? How was the critical and crippling damage suffered against Domel repaired mid-journey to Gamilus?
-Where is the Gamilus defensive fleet? Domel had a 100+ ships at Balan. Gamilus has 0 in orbit. This makes no sense.
-How is Sandara able to create all of these gimmicky one-use, deux ex machina devices to win the day?
-How is the Earth able to recover and rebuild an entire infrastructure, fleet and planetary surface in the span of 1 year? (season2)
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Minmei btw didn't win the war. The Macross and its Zentraedi allies won the war. Minmei only gave them a brief advantage in initiative and boost in morale which they subsequently capitalized upon.
Also losing your entire planetary population isn't exactly what I would call a victory.
Don't get me wrong. I like Yamato. But there are a lot of things about it which are not serious. I mean, why for example do they talk about Earth has X days left all the time and then pass over the last 200 days?
koalabrownie 2 years ago
And for the record Macross does focus on the individual agony of war. The death of Ben Dixon, the death of Roy Fokker, Hikaru becoming injured, Hikaru killing a humanoid looking alien for the first time. I mean none of the main "good" characters in Yamato even die aside from Okita. Where is the personal loss? Or right the guy's brother, but then, in the end he isn't lost he's just magically transported to an alien paradise. The only real personal loss in the whole series is the guy's parents.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
I see your point on Yamato and Macross. I guess the difference between Yamato and all others for me is: Yamato reminds a lot of thoughts and things, even wishful things, of actual WW2 where as other war sci-fi animes look merely pure fantasies.
Hesuku 2 years ago
Well, not to mince words but WW2 in space is pure fantasy as well.
But it's cool. Some cool ship designs even if some of the Gamilus ones are butt ugly. Especially all of their weird looking missiles.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Not so. We experience and re-live the griefs of actual history through works like "Yamato". It helps to understand some psyche actually existed in WW2 and afterwards, and therefore helps us understand why we are where we are at. And "Yamato" always had very good message to digest, not just emotional impacts.
Hesuku 2 years ago
Yamato has very little to do with WW2 aside from the ship itself and the one episode against Domel which bared similarity to a real life ww2 battle. But yes, a lot of anime, Yamato included, examine the human condition and the reality that is war and its causes and effects upon people.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Yamato drags on the memory of actual WW2 as long as she is the only hope left for mankind as the real Senkan Yamato was for the Japanese people. The corralation is seen everywhere throughout the first season. I may not be 100% right, but "Yamato" is one of the few sci-fi war anime based on something actual, not the existing literary works.
Hesuku 2 years ago
Just to reinforce it. China lost 10-20 million people in WW2 including up to 16 million civilians. Japan lost 2.7 million with .5 million civilian deaths. Did Germany fight in China? I don't think so.
If you want SB Yamato to represent WW2, it would start with the EDF wiping out Gamilus as in ep24 and THEN the Gamilians retaliating with meteor bombs. The only similarity to WW2 is the re-use of the ship Yamato. SBY has NOTHING to do with the WW2 japanese history and experience.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Again, my point was not the role of actual nations, but the seriousness of the single-hearted, mature characters facing the enormous enemy/problem in the midst of battles in either side, just like in WW2. Other war anime works look lacking it; they look playful comparing to Yamato.
Hesuku 2 years ago
To be frank, a robot continually lifting a girl's skirt is about as immature as you can get in anime and appeals to very lowest common denominator.
I understand what you're saying but don't dismiss other stories out of hand because the characters actually have light hearted moments. You have to remember that even soldiers had moments of laughter between battles. Stories like Macross and Gunbuster certainly have silly moments but they have the serious messages as well, just as Yamato is silly.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
By example, Gunbuster uses "time dilation". So when the heroine goes off to battle, they may be gone for six months but when they get back 10-12 years have past. This leaves the main character basically alone, all of her friends have grown up and have children of her own, her family is gone. She basically doesn't fit in anymore. This paralells the feeling that many soldiers feel when they return from war. They experience war, return to their homeland and find that they don't truly belong anymore
koalabrownie 2 years ago
I didn't dismiss other stories. I mean to talk about trees of the matter and not branches. So your favorite anime has some serious war aspect, although it looks like space extention of girls' valleyball tornament. What I feel is, after Yamato, war anime concentrate too much on petty self-esteem with too much political agenda. I can't find selfless heroes/heroines like Susumu...
Hesuku 2 years ago
Selfless? The guy joins the military to get revenge against the enemy that killed his parents. If his motivations were selfless he would have joined before his parents were killed and before Japan was even attacked (ie like his brother). Or at least, he would have been interested in joining since he was too young at that age. And one thing both Macross and Gunbuster have is the horror of war and its effects on characters. Susumu acts more like rambo, not a human being. (ie battle vs the tanks)
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Susumu was growing into maturity in this first series. Yamato has 3 TV series and 4 movies in 10-year-span, remember? I'm yet to find so beautiful-hearted Earth defenders like Susumu and Yamato characters. I think they are what true soldiers meant to be...
Hesuku 2 years ago
7:52 Deslar: Resistance is futile, kid.
Take THAT, "STNG"
pbanta62 3 years ago
After death, souls go to either heaven or hell according to the Bible.
The producer's novel said something like, "It was as if God who accepted the death of Okita allowed Yuki to revive."
Anothe novel explained that the shock from Desler Cannon reactivated Yuki's cardiac movements.
Hesuku 3 years ago 2
Both sound suspicious. I deem the easiest explanation is that the Purifier finally removed the poisonous gas from her body.
Restitutus 2 years ago
But she's been dead for quite hours! Dr. Sado made a mistake on Cpt. Okita according to "Final Yamato," and things like this really do happen; you just never know. I don't understand why producers made Yuki "dead" though. Maybe they wanted to show the depth of Susmu and Yuki's love for each other dramatically. You give up your own life for what you believe in or what you consider the most precious, and it stirs our deepest emotion when we witness it, if it's done for a noble cause.
Hesuku 2 years ago
Yeah I understand the need for an emotional impact but having the chick dead for hours and then re-gaining life through the soul of Captain Okita was not emotional, it was just pretty dumb. She's a human being like anyone else and needs oxygen or her brain will become damaged. Maybe if they just had her in a coma and "effectively dead" but on lifesupport it would've been more plausible.
I don't understand how Desler is suppose to survive to Season2 anyway. Just kill the guy off already.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Yuki is not a chick, just an 18-year-old girl. Her returning to life has nothing to do with Cpt. Okita's death according to the producer's novel. I agree with you on the absurdity of Yuki being "dead," but it's Yamato world, man. Dr. Sado must have made a mistake again, being drunk or something!
Hesuku 2 years ago
I don't know what the novel says but it's pretty clear from the staging in the anime that his soul is meant to revitalise her body. Okita says "I don't know where my soul will go" or something like that, then when he dies it focuses on his face, and then switches to Yuki and she revives. It's an obvious and frankly absurd connection. I don't know if this how it was in the manga/novels or what, but it was one of the lower points of the series imo.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Okita's wonder is humanity's all-time question, nothing new or special. I don't recall anime in that era preaching about souls ever being switchable. The novel seemed to describe the Creator God's providence. And Cpt. Okita wasn't really, really dead anyway. (See "Final Yamato.") Overall, I think this Yamato ending is very good. A lot of things beyond human understanding happen in our real world anyway.
Hesuku 2 years ago
Personally I think it could have been better. I mean Desler coming back from certain death to attack them only to be presumably killed again (but as anyone who's started season 2 knows . . .). Or why didn't the guy attack them on Iscandar? Why didn't they detect him on Radar?
Overall I thought the episode was pretty random and didn't really deliver. I appreciate what they were trying to do but it wasn't executed in a convincing manner. Same goes for everything after the battle at Gamilus.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
Koalabrownie(I like your user name, by the way!), you must understand that a lot of good(or bad) anime were cut short because their airing didn't help the sponcers' business. If Yamato had more fund, it'd have more episodes and less bizzarre things. Life goes on, chap. It takes time to mobilize and get ready to launch a new attack in war, by the way. Yamato was really, really fortunate!
Hesuku 2 years ago
No I understand animation, I do work in the field (though in North american not asia), so I understand that things are done for certain budgets and so on. And yamato, like any series had good episodes and bad, and somethings were well executed and some things were poorly executed. The hotshot's flashback to his parents and the episode with the callbacks to earth were both well done and had emotional impact. Some of battles were good too. Like anything, its hit and miss but overall good show.
koalabrownie 2 years ago
If we are talking about holes, there'd be no end! Recent-made sci-fi movies for general audience look filled with the very illogical holes. I don't think we are getting smarter, not at all.
Hesuku 2 years ago
Iscandarites could not save their own race from extinction; they couldn't have cured Cpt.Okita's illness.
Hesuku 3 years ago
captain okita said. "where soul will go after it separates from my body?"
...after he die his soul moves to yuki..
achochocho 3 years ago
In producer's novel:
Starsha was crying saying in her heart, "Thank you, thank you, the people of earth, for leaving me such a beautiful gift!"
When Susumu said to Yuki, "Now it's our turn(Not "off to earth!")," after saying good-bye to the couple, Yuki actually said, "What do you mean?" and Susumu was stuck in words because he realized he sounded proposing to her. How cute...!
Hesuku 3 years ago
Why didn't the captain stay there for radiation sickness since they were on planet Iscandar for 11 days. His older brother stayed on the planet to repopulate.
maxrafaelwaller 3 years ago
The mission of Yamato wasn't over yet.
Hesuku 2 years ago
if iscandar has amazing medical technology in the last episode, why didn't the captain stay there for 'radiation sickness?' i'm sure he could've found a ride back to earth at a later time, iscandar must have ships, starsha said they simply chose not to move to a new planet.
1stb1 3 years ago
Even Iscandar cannot work all miracles. Giving surgery to Mamoru tortured by the Gamilusians is one thing, radiation sickness is quite another.
Restitutus 3 years ago
Mamoru had a kind of "radiation sickness" as well. Okita's was advanced.
Hesuku 2 years ago
It took Starsha several months to cure Mamoru, she says. That is not enough time for Okita to wait.
Restitutus 2 years ago
Thanks for all of the uploads of the best series of Yamato!!! You rock!!
bubbalufagus 3 years ago
Yamato HASHIN!!! =)
KronnangDunn 3 years ago 2