and prepare for a visit to the The Scottish Fisheries Museum, see the video links and the pull down menu links and you'll appreciate your visit so much more! The museum was made for local fisher folk and the You Tube links included help put the exhibits in context.
I`ve enjoyed riding the "Lake Area Steamers" in the Cleveland area also the JV railroad in Bridgeport MI. (diesel), and I`ll tell ya the smell of the coal burning while running the rails is a lost paradigm! I enjoy an HO scale love for the rail and have always been a "rail fan", but cannot fathom the enjoyment of owning and operating a system such as yours. Salute to all of you in your national treasure. Have fun boys!!! Yes were still boys at 50+.
My wife and I took our children to a live steam event at Tahuna in Nelson New Zealand (our home country) last week and we all absolutely loved it.
We had several rides on different engines, some about this size but some much smaller. One thing I was intrigued by was how on earth some of the smaller engines could pull so many people! Is it really all done by the steam power of the engine or is there another electric motor some where? If not they must generate an awesome amount of torque!
@slooob23 not just what skipw said but also that water expands 1400 times in volume when it turns to steam, so as long as the engine has sufficient traction it could pull almost anything.
Yeah steam has more torque the an IC engine aa lot more, but steam is 25% less efficient. Thats why we don't use it anymore, but with steam you can use any fuel with water; water's free and since I live in the east coast country I have plenty of free wood!
Yeah steam has more torque the an IC engine a lot more, but steam is 25% less efficient. Thats why we don't use it anymore, but with steam you can use any fuel with water; water's free and since I live in the east coast country I have plenty of free wood!
@slooob23 This little steam pulling all those people is just like a full scale steam - say - a 4-6-4 Hudson or 4-8-4 Northern pulling 130 or so loaded cars. That's why steam is so great (even in small scale it doesn't surprise me to pull all those people!) - Steam is very powerful, very efficient - but too labor intensive, too expensive and too dirty for the environment!!! So then was born Diesel-electric power.
@slooob23 Something to consider about steam is that it isn't that different from electrical motors. Steam and electricity make peak torque at 0rpm. They are also both stored energy systems. The boiler not only makes steam, but stores steam. You only need lots of power when first getting a train moving, so those little engines have 3 or 4 cars engines at full throttle worth of energy stored up in that boiler. It can all be released in an instant, just like from a battery.
That's just it I don't either stuff like this you can't really buy,that's how hobby's like this start you learn from other peoples frugality and mistakes and learn to do yourself.
I can't see it another way so many hobbys start like that.
God there is some nice engines on this. You can see them best at the end.Beautiful work. Glad to be an engine builder too. They are all getting old and leaving us. Not too many more new builders.
Yes you do and its takes 2-5years to do you can spend a little more money and get them built for at a cost and there not easy to maintane or keep going On some trains you need to have a big pockets and alot of time and you need to know what youre doing they range from $1,000-$50,000 and a truck or van to transport them
I helped rerail a 4-8-4 northern one time. Every wheel was on the ground. It took me + five other people and ALOT of leverage. We did manage it though.
I guess you mean, are they safe for children, not what first got into my mind, seeing your question... This is pretty safe, depending on the operators of course, but since complete safety can't be garanteed, like many things in life are potentialy dangerous, but that's life 101.
the older 800s had those old-fashioned vandys. Judging from the fact that this FEF has the number 800 (first FEF built), I'm pretty sure this one falls under the category of "older 800." :)
LoL
Rolistem 3 months ago
in terms of model trains, what gauge is this? Is it one at all? If not, what is the scale (eg. 1:87, etc.)
penguinejb 5 months ago
Some day, I'll be rich and famous for making video games and I'll have two live steamers, Sierra Rwy No. 3 and 28
sitp2 6 months ago
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hoppercar 7 months ago
ive always wanted to own a live steam train, but they are so expensive, my car is worth less than most of them
sgtwylde1996 7 months ago
@sgtwylde1996 I hear you there, for sure!
SkipW 7 months ago
#800,has no cowcatcher.
jdubbjazzbass 8 months ago
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and prepare for a visit to the The Scottish Fisheries Museum, see the video links and the pull down menu links and you'll appreciate your visit so much more! The museum was made for local fisher folk and the You Tube links included help put the exhibits in context.
keplermission 8 months ago
I have a few questions about this stuff!!
How much weight can they pull? Seems like they usually only pull 2 or 3 cars
How long can you keep them running before you have to stop?
Do you guys ever double head the steam engines or is that hard to do?
WorldOfNothin 9 months ago
Steam locomotives are such things of beauty and character, I am sad that I was not alive in the days when steam ruled the rails!
cauffey 9 months ago
really want to drive Up 844
BSBINC1 9 months ago
Hi ,
mein name ist Heiko,
ich bin von beruf Lokomotivführe in Deutschland ....
euer video ist erste klasse
wo bekommt man solche modelle ?
währe nett wenn einer von euch Antwortet
Heiko_philippi@yahoo.de
heikophilippi1 10 months ago
I went there this summer 2010, the place looked abandon
judyjeff9999 11 months ago
Another great video Skip. Nice to see some of the "behind the scenes" operations. I always wondered how they haul those big engines around. Pete
PeteM234 11 months ago
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FusionBeyblader 11 months ago
Is this place open for public to come visit?
MrBabujani1 11 months ago
How much one the locomotive will cost I wonder. ?
MrBabujani1 11 months ago
What a amazing miniature engines!
Rayarena 1 year ago
I`ve enjoyed riding the "Lake Area Steamers" in the Cleveland area also the JV railroad in Bridgeport MI. (diesel), and I`ll tell ya the smell of the coal burning while running the rails is a lost paradigm! I enjoy an HO scale love for the rail and have always been a "rail fan", but cannot fathom the enjoyment of owning and operating a system such as yours. Salute to all of you in your national treasure. Have fun boys!!! Yes were still boys at 50+.
SuperStan105 1 year ago
That ´s nice .
There is one in my city in Ribeirão Preto Brazil, but nobody cares about.
I think it´s the only one in Brazil.
juliocprp 1 year ago
Nice to see that Southern green.
iain152c2i 1 year ago
just awesome
U378U 1 year ago
What is the weight of these engines? They look pretty heavy.
shooteraod 1 year ago
Very cool, thanks for sharing.
kingtiger59 1 year ago
What's that gray looking engine that doesn't seem to have any features? What's it modeled after?
TheMrBlinx 1 year ago
Surely that magnificent UP 800 class can haul more than two measly carriages?
Load her up!!!!
dcp4486 1 year ago
I'm sure live steam model railroading is a great hobby, but all that's freakin' expensive I'm sure!
michaelmohrmann 1 year ago
You just can't get away from the 544 can you? I know it says 800, but it is close enough.
Weiberts 1 year ago
That FEF-3 UP 800 type steamer has made a couple of visits to Dodge City Ks for display at Boot Hill Model Train Show.
BNSF7776 1 year ago
the whistle on that 800 class locomotive really sounds close to the real thing
Amtrak1194 2 years ago
My wife and I took our children to a live steam event at Tahuna in Nelson New Zealand (our home country) last week and we all absolutely loved it.
We had several rides on different engines, some about this size but some much smaller. One thing I was intrigued by was how on earth some of the smaller engines could pull so many people! Is it really all done by the steam power of the engine or is there another electric motor some where? If not they must generate an awesome amount of torque!
slooob23 2 years ago 5
steam is the strongest power there is....nuclear powered aircraft carriers are steamers.the nuke just boils the water
divanola 1 year ago
@slooob23 just the steam power but the locos weigh several hundred pounds
SkipW 1 year ago 2
@slooob23 not just what skipw said but also that water expands 1400 times in volume when it turns to steam, so as long as the engine has sufficient traction it could pull almost anything.
skybluedragonator 1 year ago
Yeah steam has more torque the an IC engine aa lot more, but steam is 25% less efficient. Thats why we don't use it anymore, but with steam you can use any fuel with water; water's free and since I live in the east coast country I have plenty of free wood!
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Yeah steam has more torque the an IC engine a lot more, but steam is 25% less efficient. Thats why we don't use it anymore, but with steam you can use any fuel with water; water's free and since I live in the east coast country I have plenty of free wood!
DAKOTA56777 1 year ago
@slooob23 This little steam pulling all those people is just like a full scale steam - say - a 4-6-4 Hudson or 4-8-4 Northern pulling 130 or so loaded cars. That's why steam is so great (even in small scale it doesn't surprise me to pull all those people!) - Steam is very powerful, very efficient - but too labor intensive, too expensive and too dirty for the environment!!! So then was born Diesel-electric power.
es44ac2 1 year ago
@slooob23 im part of that club...what a great show
cobby4321 9 months ago
@slooob23 bom dia gostaria de lhe perguntar se existe a possibilidade de comprar uma locomotiva a vapor será que eu consigo no seu país ??
MrMortecerta 5 months ago
@slooob23 Something to consider about steam is that it isn't that different from electrical motors. Steam and electricity make peak torque at 0rpm. They are also both stored energy systems. The boiler not only makes steam, but stores steam. You only need lots of power when first getting a train moving, so those little engines have 3 or 4 cars engines at full throttle worth of energy stored up in that boiler. It can all be released in an instant, just like from a battery.
Polybun 3 months ago
I dont have the money to get into this yet but wish I could.... Does anyone know if there is a live steam club in Dallas or anywhere in Texas?
rocknrollse7en 2 years ago
That's just it I don't either stuff like this you can't really buy,that's how hobby's like this start you learn from other peoples frugality and mistakes and learn to do yourself.
I can't see it another way so many hobbys start like that.
Hammeron2M 2 years ago
Your grandpa built that UP steamer? That's an amazing engine.
Bus7777 2 years ago
God there is some nice engines on this. You can see them best at the end.Beautiful work. Glad to be an engine builder too. They are all getting old and leaving us. Not too many more new builders.
petro062 2 years ago 3
@petro062 : Can you help in setting up this hobby in India ?
abrahaj 9 months ago
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abrahaj 9 months ago
I love that FEF locomotive!
iinlovejameslafferty 2 years ago
Real modeling
In Japan,Live steam model can't run over bridge,because of dangerous.
I've never heard such a fantastic layout
ISO8 2 years ago
how is it dangerous? it cant be that dangerous if they are doing it in this video
thelasthallow 2 years ago
Yeah I mean really....walt disney had his going over what? a 10ft tall trestle? I know thats not the right number...but it was HUGE!
318Captain 1 year ago
This is one fine layout but, the Los Angles Live Steamers those guys are the Serious HardCores of Live Steam RR's
SkipW 2 years ago
@SkipW Try Riverside.
paullubliner 4 months ago
@ISO8 lol i can tell youre using a translator. youve never "seen" such a fantastic layout
bartybum 1 year ago
@ISO8 Virtually every live steam track in the U.S. has bridges of some kind. Why do you say they are dangerous?
paullubliner 4 months ago
Nice video and nice little trains.
Boy look at all that open country...Fields as far as the eye can see.
Put {The Great Cockcrow Railway} into the search box to check out a nice little line near where I live.
TheDepotCat 2 years ago 2
i always wanted to build one with someone but i can not afford to do it
Maximumbandit09 2 years ago
Great video ! Finally someone who can take great shoots and great closeups.
We were driving on those last week on train festival in Owosso,MI Now I think I'm in love with these little stinkers :)
MichiganPowerWashing 2 years ago
do have to build these trains and if you do how long dose it take?
Californiabros 2 years ago
Yes you do and its takes 2-5years to do you can spend a little more money and get them built for at a cost and there not easy to maintane or keep going On some trains you need to have a big pockets and alot of time and you need to know what youre doing they range from $1,000-$50,000 and a truck or van to transport them
Gauge1channel 2 years ago
ITS MANZILLA, make that many MANZILLAS!!!!
ualien42 2 years ago
That whistle almost sounds like the real UP 844
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago
true, it kinda does.
lockgnarvangoogen 2 years ago
Your Right,It Does!!
Amtrak107 2 years ago
nice video might wanner check out mine
Gauge1channel 2 years ago
I helped rerail a 4-8-4 northern one time. Every wheel was on the ground. It took me + five other people and ALOT of leverage. We did manage it though.
dmhande 2 years ago
a real one?
lockgnarvangoogen 2 years ago
Yup, six people lifted it right on the tracks
;)
No, it was 1/8th scale.
dmhande 2 years ago
it would suck to derail on one of these!
RyanSamuelBarry 2 years ago 2
Great engineering....
SteffanLlwyd 2 years ago
That Northern is To Sweet, Your grandpa did a Super fine job, I really admire the work and craftsmanship that they put in to this hobby.... Nice Job.
You should make a window mount for the camera and give ua a engineers view of a ride around this road... that would be sweet.
MrAquarium 2 years ago
do these guys still meet every so often? i'd love to go.
hoth2112 2 years ago
nice post thanks for bringing your camerock :)
420glass 2 years ago
I would build a track going through the united states and then one day ride the train for like a month across the US : D
motos 2 years ago
Every time I watch this video I want one of these trains!
vtxtreme 2 years ago
My dad was a member of the now disbanded North West Ohio Live Steamers. I had the privilege to attend many a meet.
Auggie56 3 years ago
why cant i see any steam coming from 844?
micahthatrocks 3 years ago
I guess you mean, are they safe for children, not what first got into my mind, seeing your question... This is pretty safe, depending on the operators of course, but since complete safety can't be garanteed, like many things in life are potentialy dangerous, but that's life 101.
whackyt 3 years ago
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Can they go any faster? I mean could you run over small children? : )
slimes23 3 years ago
Oh shut up you!
coster993 3 years ago 2
I wonder if the guy who owns the 800 fabricated it himself or used a kit? if its a kit ill buy it but it would probably be really really expensive.
thetrainking 3 years ago
are they running on compressed air or what?
michaelkragh92 3 years ago
Steam just like the real thing. He is probley useing propane. but there are a lot that are fired by Coal.
2102FAN 3 years ago
what will one of those cost u?
KZ1993 3 years ago
That was an incredible video! I really enjoyed watching it.
Rachmaninov08 3 years ago 2
I love the FEF, but where is the centepeed tender??,
Nice video Skip,
greatings from Holland
UnionPacificBigBoy 3 years ago 3
yeah! but where is the piolt? lol
gw90isback 3 years ago
I think it got eaten in a derailment in part 1
rotundrooster 3 years ago
the older 800s had those old-fashioned vandys. Judging from the fact that this FEF has the number 800 (first FEF built), I'm pretty sure this one falls under the category of "older 800." :)
ronthecyborg 3 years ago
@UnionPacificBigBoy The FEF-1's like 800 weren't built with Centipiedes.
ConrailJon 11 months ago
I want one of those 800s. How much?
vtxtreme 3 years ago
Great video.Nice engine.
petro062 3 years ago
that green southren, what was that? oil? propane?
mikes47jeep 4 years ago
I don't know if you know this or not, but I'll say it anyway. Perhaps I can enlighten at least one person.
If the smoke has any color (if you can actually see it) then it's either oil or coal, where as propane exhaust is transparent.
If you'll note the firebox door, specifically the hole in the center of it, this usually indicates an oil fire.
cascadesmelloando 3 years ago
The southern mikado i mt favirote
orgoth225 4 years ago
How did you get 20 minutes on youtube?
rwundrock 4 years ago
Yeah is there a 4-8-8-4?
xtriplecrownerx 4 years ago
by any chance do they have a 4-8-8-4 that u can build or is that to big
biker111 4 years ago
This is so far the best Live Steam video I've seen on Youtube :-)
adfgfds 4 years ago
Love the 4501, Getting an Railroad Supply 2-6-0 Mogul! Going to model it after the Ma & Pa # 26!
gw90 4 years ago
The 4-6-0 is fav.
JonatanGronoset 4 years ago
how much for a starter model?
1mile2go 4 years ago
Could be anywhere from £900 ($1200) - £2000 ($2400) but it depends what kind of loco you want.
Ardinj 4 years ago
Hey, SKIP! Man what do you spend in gas finding all this stuff! lol
This was something cool!
BigUnitBeef 4 years ago
yep, that missing pilot dug up 4 cross-ties earlier in the day, but did that stop that UP #800 ...NO Way!
He came in from Nebraska, and determined to STEAM ON!
SkipW 4 years ago
the 4-8-2, at 10:50. looks nice.
Engineer5344 4 years ago
It's missing it's pilot/cow catcher
Olfablade 4 years ago
I really like that UP 800.
mafarnz 4 years ago 2