S.T.A.L.K.E.R compare - alpha to final

[DanielTejnicky]

And each time it is smaler and smaler until its Shadow of chernobil .... sad sad sotry

[zolihunter]

I like this song.

[Angelslayer007]

can some one PLEASE link me/send me a PROPER mp3 (or flac., whatever (:) of this track?

+100 cookies for the one that does that, thank you. i don't need no crappy quality versions jo

[gybustudent]

Nice! Is there any way of getting your hands on the alpha version?

[MrArsenioOro]

I play the final versions just fine. your just not in tuned with it. Once you get use to it becomes almost like second nature. Anyway, I can also see your system getting pwnd trying to run the final version. Get a quad core system with a 5870 and youll get rid of all that jerkiness. I get with all stalkers at 1920x1080 at max in directx 11 about no lower than 80 to 120fps

[Johntsarev]

wow, the video-quality is really the best on youtube! )

[JackOFBlades111]

@Johntsarev 4 Years ago it was good

[lukefasss]

hmmm... alpha one looks more interesting for some reasons

[DevilDog016]

Sorry, I meant alpha vs final there.

BTW, anyone got any links to these alpha builds? I'd really like to play those, too.

[DevilDog016]

Wow... The difference on level size for Cordon in alpha vs beta is enormous. And the level of detail in that cliffside building, and the cliff itself, and that eroded, collapsed rail embankment makes the final Cordon seem bland and featureless... But I still love the game, it's one of the few that truly capture the fear and demoralization of an abnormal, hostile world.

[TheShadowCross]

This is pretty interesting. To think that budget and time limits were what held them back from an even BIGGER game than what stalker already is... But. They still sold alot of copies, so maybe Stalker 2 will pick back up on where they had to leave off from budgets.

[randomsauce657]

@TheShadowCross ya know stalker clear sky came out already and theres a thisd stalker called call of prypiate right?

[TheShadowCross]

@randomsauce657 Ya' know those are stand alone expansion packs and not sequals?

[cluch9]

@TheShadowCross

there coming out with stalker 2 in the next couple of years am i correct?

[TheShadowCross]

@cluch9 They are aiming for a 2012 multiplatform release

[cluch9]

@TheShadowCross

looks as if theyll be gong for the crysis approach to missions where its more open ended, the only thing that killed SOC for me was that youd be being chased by a bunch of mercs and a military chopper and then you have to wait for the next area to load, and theyre gone

[TheShadowCross]

@cluch9 You have to remember how limited their resources are. They probably wanted that approach way back in Alpha, but they just couldn't do it.

[cluch9]

@TheShadowCross

they sold 4 million copies of all the stalker games so far, i think theyll have the resources to make a more expended game, stalker: lost alpha has maybe a half dozen people working on it and its due to be released within a couple years,

[randomsauce657]

@randomsauce657 yep

[randomsauce657]

ya know there are two other stalkers out right and shadow of chernobyl is still the best?

[Den2067]

я знаю чувака он прошол всю игру на мастере со одним пестом

[goopah]

Music is perfect for this video!

[TheXranitel]

god damn stop crying bitches and download oblivion lost 2.2 mod and enjoy of the old mutants and other cool stuff

[magagnomagagni]

The only difference i see..is that the player has a lot slower walk in the final version...but it's the price for having improved graphic with more details in the enviroment.Then..maybe at the beginning they wanted to do a bigger world to explore..but for budget problems and deadlines they limited the speed for exploring everything.

[grineti5]

I don't know why you guys complain about it... I actually like the final version a lot more (with graphical mods of course) :)

[djrolnik]

it's like.. 3 different games

[crazychikn]

those early builds are what i want from stalker, deserted lands witho no rookies and factions around, just a few desperate loners in an abandoned world with some scary ass mutants roaming around

if i was really rich i would love to buy gsg and give them the money to make a proper stalker without pandering to market concerns or some other bullshit and noobifying the xperience. I alwys thought the ending to stalkers were shit, the zone should be abandoned inside, no factions

[iHardstyleZz]

in the beginning you could drive vehicles and all that, right?

[Zelectec]

holy fuckin shit i found today my alpha of stalker....but i got one only with a getlin-gun and no enemys to kill...the map was not to big but for this time it was great to see what is possible with a pc ...

[AETrainingDavid97]

@1337chsacker

Haha, they did.

It's still in the final's game files, along with the old model. They made a new model and texture labeled "fn2000_new" while the old one remained there as "fn2000."

It can be reactivated rather easily.

[nytrox84]

well,the alpha walking is faster,the weapons are graphically worse but of better "gameplay" except for the ak which is too fucking huge and gross

[Neo9843]

wow the map looks like awesome :D

[heehebjehemdaar]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R SoC and Build 1935 (a.k.a Oblivion lost) own :) Owh and Call of Pripyat will be asome to :D

[Murikov]

I already beat CoP, its damned better than Clear Sky. Its really worth to buy it!

[heehebjehemdaar]

Is it out yet? lol don't tell me you downloaded bro they are already a poor company don't make ehm poorer XD

A true fan will buy there games...

[Murikov]

As owner and fan of all Stalker parts I would never do that, dude! Here in Switzerland (also in Austria and Germany) CoP is since October available. I got the Special Edition with some goodies in it, all in all its really awesome.

[heehebjehemdaar]

Asome well I don't think its out here yet but since I live Next to Germany I might go buy it there then :)

[Murikov]

The only trouble is, that in Germany only exists a German language-version (without the option to install it in English). Better wait for the UK/US-Version release.

[heehebjehemdaar]

Owh yeah well I'll just wait till it comes out in the Netherlands then shouldn't be that long if its already out in Switz Aus and Germ :)

[Xiolablu3]

Lol,the phrase 'beat' is so hilarious.

You mean you completed it?

[Murikov]

@Xiolablu3

Yeah, however xD

CoP was a good experience and I always will appreciate a new sequel of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

[jakaos412]

Where you can download a fully functional version?

I've just downloaded version 1935 and 2205, neither me does not work :-(

[ballm0use]

there is no music.

[Angelslayer007]

want the song? download it off youtube!

google for > youtube to mp3

[kovek]

1114, not 1096

[Zed8690]

what name of this song? i dont see!

[enakeii]

Wow... Cordon in here is way better than the one in the final

Beautiful

[Gatchins]

пушку зделали =)

[manladyyasser]

The music is Awesome!

Half life 2 was in a very similar state too. The Alpha version of it, had very Nazi/Oppressive themes. Both versions of both games had similar overall story structures, but it seems to me that they had intentionally got rid of some "darker" aspects, to appeal to a wider audience.

[callinstead09]

not sure about the wider audience appeal, but they are very similar in that regard. Except this darker version will actually be completed! "lost alpha" mod

[mainlinesteam2008]

It is also good to know, the is a body of a stalker named "freeman" who's diary refences black mesa. ^^

[TruthINgorE]

Are there any of the cut out anomalies or mutants that have not been added by mods in any of these builds?Please respond.

[kknots]

Yes there's a cerberus-like dog in build 1935 on levels such as l12_stancia

[au25]

the alpha was far better

[omfg4815]

Nice song ;), but I cant it download :(

[VooDooEf]

Error

This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.

This limit is reached.

To download this file, the uploader either needs to transfer this file into his/her Collector's Account, or upload the file again. The file can later be moved to a Collector's Account. The uploader just needs to click the delete link of the file to get further information.

[tzanegmr]

i'm still waiting for stalker to come out ! WHEN WILL IT COME OUT, GSC ???

[93dani]

here's your lucky day,GSC just released 1935 BUILD it's actually the 2004 version of the game ,Check GSC forums for download,i have it :D and it pwns the orginial version

[skyraptor]

what DAT file did you start...my version crashes every 5 minutes

[Netinterspace]

i think they should realease all of the builds they made like the betas and alphas...that would be cool :/

[CookiezSC]

wow this level looks amazing, way better than new ones.

[RobertQuinlan]

That first alpha is build 1114, not 1096: both the leaked 1098 and 1114 alphas used a 1096 splash screen on startup, but 1096 itself has never been seen in the wild so far as I know.

1098 is pretty amazing in itself: robots, Aztec ruins and miniguns!

[tzanegmr]

by the way ! i have stalker prealpha 1098 in my computer and it's much more dinamic than other alphas !

[Netinterspace]

where can i get it? can you host it? i would be so much pleased :D

[tzanegmr]

write on google "stalker alpha build 1935" and find a link to download it, or download o torrent or something ! then read the "read me" and it will tell you how to run it ! but i'll tell you, it's a pretty unstable game and it will crash from time to time

[Netinterspace]

no i already have the 1935 one i want the previous and after ones.

[tzanegmr]

oh, ok ! the first is "stalker alpha build 1098" and the second is "stalker alpha build 1154" ! after build is 2215 and that's just a demo, not worth downloading in my opinion ! you may be able to find those other two on google ... a torrent or a link or something..that's how i got them !

[Netinterspace]

i tried to do that but the torrents i find have all no seeds or only 1!! :(

[dez0wave]

you can try the stalker forums. i can send you link for all old builds, but most of them is hosted on russian p2p network, which is damn slow outside russia. but thats the only way :) drop me a pm if you still need that, and i will send you links.

[DesertFoxKG]

We can now all cry together because alpha versions look awesome.

[gb4metal]

this is the original stalker?

[MakiekCs]

We want old mutants in next stalker! :(((

We want roar from pre-alpha xD! And flowers in grassssss! We want Dwarf, Karlik, Tark, and other great mutants! Why they cut 60% of this game!? why!? ;((((

[SMGJohn]

becuse THQ is a idiot and deserv to die

[AETrainingDavid97]

@SMGJohn Amen!

I feel bad for GSC for having been battered by those fools :'(

[DanielTejnicky]

@SMGJohn well its not that easy, but without doubt stalker seposte to be much cooler game =D

[GTXMAN]

@SMGJohn They destroyed Company of heroes as well.

Currently its my most hated Company ever!

[ongolos]

@SMGJohn yeah whythe fuck did THQ omit this stuff? this is better than the whole series itself !

[MakiekCs]

Sorry, no roar but road :D

[BrokenHeartedAngel78]

I want ma Zombies Back

[TheJugernaut94]

@MakiekCs because GSC team thought that western public wouldnt like an atmosferic game like alpha(soc was atmosferic to,but alpha version is much greater), so they added more action, like stupid western publicity wants, only fire fire and fire, so dont blame GSC, cuz they wanted to earn money from all over the world, not only eastern europe.

[IggyHazard]

@TheJugernaut94 Just give us plenty of radioactive flesh pigs and we're happy! XD Seriously, though, we DO want atmosphere. We DO want substance. Maybe not all of us, but they shouldn't feel the need to cater to the majority if the majority doesn't crave excellence. Anyway, I'm so glad they added iron sights. STALKER would be unplayable without functional sights on all weapons. I was disappoint with the unnecessary cocking, though (Hollywood style cock-yer-gun every time you pull it out).

[Xerxes1688]

@TheJugernaut94 The did it because THQ wanted to cater to a wider audience, by making the game more linear (although ShoC it's still open ended), smaller and with more action sequences so impatient players won't get bored after traveling across expanses of terrain that are empty for the most part.

Metro 2033, although it's a good game, it's basically what THQ wanted in the first place: a short, linear, action-based post apocalyptic FPS, with very little of interation and exploration.

[MakiekCs]

@MakiekCs Sorry ppl, i mean road ;P

[Bra5co]

alpha had some nice effects of beautiful outside areas, i mean theres even flowers around , i think it might have given soc a bit more of a thrill if there had been an area that looks a bit normal, even nice

[TriggerWojtas]

Alpha looked much more realistic then the final version. I liked especially weapons skins.. Orgin was correct, I see no point of changing them to this one from final... hmmm

[Splatpope]

OMG did you ever played the Final to the end?

It seems waaaay more "STALKER-ish"

[TTK12G3]

Looks really cool.

[Renegate007]

Anyway, Builds were better, than final Stalker.(There is an information that there is no one global level and some "interesting" functions in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. because they were destroyed by electric overload of GSC servers)

[Arnes111]

This is cordon.

Quite interesting, and I don't see why they deleted the road textures.

There should be white lines on the road in cordon too, christ.

[Killmeplz4life]

Uhh the music in the backround was horrible D:

[MeanderingBeing]

Totally dig this music man. Its bouncin! I replayed this movie three times now just to crank the tunes.

[TTK12G3]

I love the music too!

[00windZor00]

First alpha have looks really scary. Final version should have even 1/10 of this climate!

[Panosl]

Bad creepy music, some louds and shooting at nothing doth not a scary game make. The final version is a hell of a lot more refined.

[EdgeBotV2]

cordon looks soooo much more interesting in alpha ~ what happened?

[Pl0xz0r]

Hey, is it possible to download the Alpha?

[anarky4321]

yea torrent it

[infinity6655]

what place is this in the game? yantar?

[punkypunkky]

Creepy

[DaNVGangsta]

yuuuuuck! Final version looks creepeh!

[Tobolococo]

where can I download the music ?

[IggyHazard]

Yo-yo-yo, G-funk homie dawg in the hizzay fo shizzle my bizzle, ya know what I'm sayn?

[AJMZXFC]

Not really.

[suhanc47]

the music is shit

[newklear234]

I still wait and hope that oblivion lost some day will be realesd ;( maybe after clear sky? (stalker2?)

[wildpeaks]

What you mean released, there is even version 2 released ?

[DsBt256]

kk basically U know about Stalker Shadow of chernobyl, There as well is a mod called Oblivion Lost and now they are releasing a game Stalker Clear sky

[wildpeaks]

Yeah I know, OL *is* released, it's version 2.2 now, and Stalker Clear Sky is released next week in Russia/5th september in the rest of the world.

[IggyHazard]

Can't say that I like the angle of the old weapons. They're waaay to0 sideways, but they lo0k very detailed. I like that they had w0od on more of the weapons. I especially like the lo0k of the older Makarov better than the newer one with the black polymer grip. No gripes on the gameworld, though. It's to0 fantastic to warrant any gripes.

[She11y]

You can still find the old Makarov skin on the internets :p

[IggyHazard]

It lo0ks great in Clear Sky but functions like crap (can't aim without iron sight mod and the virtual bullets are programmed to disappear rather than drop over a distance).

[She11y]

Clear Sky really left a bad taste in my mouth.

Let's hope the next one is better.

[IggyHazard]

Mine to0 -- and all because of the weapon lameness. I quit playing it because it lost my interest, mostly because it wasn't fun to play (which is mostly due to the fact that you have to waste an entire magazine per enemy).

[She11y]

That + the fact most of the maps felt unfinished, the game was ridicilously unstable, the plot.. well there really was no plot. It's just the player chasing Strelok through Chernobyl. It's hard for me believe that Strelok would actually be intimidated by a single Merc. He killed hundreds of mercs and bandits in SoC.

And the voiceacting was truly horrible :D

They shouldnt've rushed with the development. It took them almost 8 years to develop the first game...

[thedoomguy0]

like the hands and ak 47 and the new lnd looked cooler

[iffrjose18]

wats da gun they use 24 seconds into the vid called?

[IggyHazard]

FN F2000 made by Fabrique Nationale of Herstal, Belgium. In this configuration, it has a scope with an onboard computer system (which I think is built into that flying saucer lo0king thing) and a 40mm grenade launcher called an EGLM.

[slayerized667]

why does the ft200m always look different than mine? D:

[She11y]

That's the prototype F2000. It's not included in the final game.

You can find it on the interwebz though :p

[slayerized667]

okay :D

i've played oblivion lost now and i've shot some bandits with it :P

[Angelslayer007]

why do all the alpha's and beta's look WAY better? how can i play them anyways?

[sniperzero1]

I've played them and they aren't better, believe me. Especially the alpha's, simply because they are not finished. There is nothing to do. The AI has some kind of super aim and shooting people isn't exactly fun either.

[LordDonib]

you should instal oblivion lost mod. Much more dificult to buy equipment cuz it s a lot more expensive and your loot is worthless.

[LordDonib]

you should instal oblivion lost mod. Much more dificult to buy equipment cuz it s a lot more expensive and your loot is worthless.

[KamakaziNinja79]

I don't see how that's better :l

[fonzythedog]

The mod does much more than that actually. Random blowouts, anomalies move, darker nights, drivable vehicles, the possibility to meet any NPC or mutant in any area, many more weapons added. Food and bandages do not heal you either, and bleeding doesnt stop without bandages. There's still much more and despite all these additions, the mod is amazingly bug free and stable. I recommend you check it out. It's cool running with 3 other stalkers to the nearest building during a blowout.

[4815162342numbers]

I can't believe they realy cut so much :(

p.s. На кой сделав такие пространства потом их урезать до почти линейного уровня?!. Моя не понимать разрабов...

[wiwowa]

What is the name of this song?

[ZeeKat]

Whoa, cordon looked a lot less rural in alphas. I wonder why they modified it, looked pretty great. Nice freaky music, by the way.

[Banzay27]

If memory serves me right, the Clear Sky - the addon they'll be releasing for this game - will implement a quick travel system.

That'll be bliss, for sure.

[AlnairLindalwe]

Can I get betas anywhere? Please write me to inbox.

[TotalBlackError]

i like the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. the way it is, i know it is not like in the betas and stuff... but still a good game to keep me busy... but gameplay needs SERIOUS work... like to repair weapons and stuff, but i like the challenge i get in Stalker, having no way to repair weapons make the game more tougher... my kinda challenge ;)

[93dani]

where i can download the alpha???

[JeanPol2cul]

Cordon level is HUGE in the alphas. How can you downgrade the final release that much ?

[93dani]

ThE BETA ONE WAS BEST GAME EVER CREATED!

[LucanJacups]

Hmmm...I hope STALKER 2 comes out soon after CLear Sky. My hope is that, now that GSC ditched THQ, STALKER 2 will be STALKER: Oblivion Lost. That would be really nice.

[TotalBlackError]

it better had more sci-fi stuff and that...

[Smasher4ya]

the fact is that STALKER was a game meant for 2003-2004 period...they really fucked up the game at all.

[football4life94]

It would be cool if they release some of the betas like the one showing alife.

[Pro25Mak]

they couldnt make an open ended game cuz it would take em another 4 years

[04mustangsvtcobra]

whats the song in this? it goes well with the video

[frankyfife]

Chris_Liebing___Speedy_J_-_Col­labs_3000_-_Metalism - Assault.mp3

[jumalaauta]

such a shame that this stalker was never released...I were waiting for a open-world fps shooter =o...well stalker will do the job..and Farcry2 later

[beanmaster]

far cry 2 will never be able to do this, it has no athmosphere and a boring place.

It will just fail like crysis

[JonisKanonis]

Don´t know if Far Cry 2 will fail but as you say, it doesn´t have the atmosphere that I love in STALKER

[DrKlunkDoo]

they shoulda stuck with the original concept, an open world. hopefully thatll be implemented into clear sky

[MaranSniper]

ran out of my money, my ass! the only things that were cut out IMPROVED the gameplay. well.... except for the blowouts... those are cool, not very well done in mods though.

[KindredPhantom]

They ran out of time not money, the publisher was wanting them to release and they it wasn't feasible them to add all the features.

Clear sky will add some features but not all.

[tiko257]

maybe clear sky will be the finished version of stalker

[BioSergeant15]

I hope as much as you do. They better add almost everything they said was going to be in the first stalker.

[beanmaster]

Not in clear sky, but i nstalker 2 mybe

[janderwel]

you realy needed that scary freaky music?!

[frankyfife]

yes :P

[DeceptionCircus]

I have to agree with some of the previous comments, the alpha level design looked absolutely terrific. Now, if they just had the AK's ejection port on the right side instead of the left...

[saromon1989]

Nice video :))))

[Thedarksnw]

Cant really compare cause your getting lot less FPS while recording release version, try patching to 1.05 first it might help you fix lag.

[dima1408]

just play the final one -.-

[keir150]

i can defiantly say i like the gun skins allot more :) the skins in the final.... hmmm they just look dodgy as fuck

[Colo118]

agreed most of the german game has weird looking gun, best example is Timeshift

[beanmaster]

Timeshift and stalker are not german games, and the thing with the "weird looking" guns is not true

[Colo118]

agree with everyone, the alpha version of this game looked more promising than the final one , the firefight looked more dynamic and the level design was superb, i hope they will add a more dynamic experience in the Clear Sky sequel

[lulle103]

It`s because they ran out of money while the games wasn`t finished and therefor don`t have everthing in final as in the beta.

[TheClown1951]

wtf was that rifle used in alpha? Looked like a cross between the Groza and the F2000.

[dima1408]

the alpha mapping is just great

[Angelslayer007]

It's rather unusual, I guess that makes it good.

[XonicManiaK]

the music track is awesome...

[SiroDra]

Man, the level design in the alpha was so much more realistic than in the final version. THQ really fucked up STALKER badly, made GSC change too many good things that made the game unique. :(

[historywillabsolve]

dont worry Clear Skies will be out soon, and i'm sure Stalker 2 is also on the drawing board.

[RamenOps]

I gotta say, the Alpha version looked a lot more interesting.

[5rs6j81]

Do any of you know that STALKER was origionally "STALKER: Oblivion Lost" and not "STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl" ? He's not talking about an RPG haha

[RebelForce8]

The alpha is more scarier than the final

[MaranSniper]

stalker is cool :)

[Przeciskiwacz]

i love this game !!!oblivion is realy difrent !!!nO DYNAMIC FIGHT THATS I STOP PALIYNG OBLIVION

[AndrosPhilippos]

Alpha version reminds me of the graphics in Deus Ex, which is a positive thing.

Not that they're exactly good, but... it sorta pleases me, maybe because I adore Deus Ex.

Maybe they should've released it back then with those graphics, the final product doesn't quite live up to the hype.

[Heinzfaust]

cool vid man! I like the music.

So where do u get the alpha version? I finished stalker retail and I'm really eager to try the alpha version. Not for bitching, just to check it out..

Anyone knows where to get it? Thanks.

[reichfuhrer1942]

Fuck to all the people who hate this game.

Anyway, nice vids... it is too bad they didnt include many features... but thanks to the mods that exists out there. :D

[Angelslayer007]

Why do people reply to a video of a game they dont like??

weird people...

BTW. I love your video, the game too.

[whataclusterfuck]

Yep, game sucks.

It's nothing even close to The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion.

It's separate closed maps. And you end up walking back and forth on the same path over and over and over again.

Talk about redundant and boring.