I'm probably over-analyzing here...but the two who seem most reluctant in the room are Geezer and Ozzy. Geezer though is shy and just wants to make music, I think, but Ozzy doesn't seem to crack a smile once over anything Iommi or Ward says, especially when Ward mentions he and Ozzy fist-fighting. I think that Ozzy (and maybe Sharon) are behind most of this problem with Ward. Iommi's sensible enough to allow Ward his cut since he wrote a lot of the songs too.
@GTAfan421 Abso-fucking-lutely. My anticipation level has decreased knowing that charlatan rubin is involved in the new material. Hopefully he wont fuck it up TOO much.
@GTAfan421 I doubt he'll be in the recording room for most of it. I hear he only stops by the studio once in a while when he's "recording" a band (see Slayer for instance).
@blaklodge Yeah, but his team is what I'm worried about - he is a great producer and his team used to be top notch before everything they touched started to have the god awful brick walled sound that Death Magnetic prominently featured on every single track.
What Henry Rollins said about listening to Paranoid describes my experience almost word for word. Hearing that album for the first time was one of the most life-altering experiences I've ever had. Rock n' roll's been my religion ever since.
By the way, how come Black Sabbath fans are arguing with each other? That's kinda stupid don't you think?
Pavarotti is a better singer than Ozzy too, that doesnt make his music any better. Ozzy, Bill, Tony and Geezer are Black Sabbath. Any other of the 665346 million lineups are just cheap, crappy spinoffs. You people dissect it like a scientist. Rock n roll isnt for you im afraid, go listen to classical music or jazz where you belong.
i understand ozzy just fine. dunno whats wrong with some of you. ozzy has a thick accent but u should still be able to understand him because i do just fine.
You can tell Geezer is kind of bitter-sweet about it..I think he's still getting over the loss of Dio so abrubtly, not to diss this fantastic news but Heaven and Hell was incredible. Hope they can come up out with something equal or better than The Devil You Know.
for all of you haters of anything BUT Ozzy Era Sabbath....is it considered "Ozzy" without Randy? I mean Bark at the Moon was good but not as good as Diary. And Randy was far better than Zakk. And Jake E. Lee was better than Zakk. And also by your logic Ozzy solo just must suck WITHOUT Sabbath. Can't have Ozzy w/out them, right?
ive seen sabbath in 78 with van halen ..ive seen them with Dio .great!! and i saw the reunion tour..FUCKIN GREAT..im just so happy that SABBATH my idols are able to reunite after 40 years even after the Ozzy law suit against iommi..(sharons doing ofcourse) these guys are the founders of hard heavy guitar riff rock and im glad and thankfull that we will see them again and hear a new sabbath album..im hoping this album is as good as ozzy and geezer say..it would be great..long live BLACK SABBATH
Yes yes yes....Ozzy era Sabbath was great. But tell me, can you find an all around better metal album than Heaven and Hell? Can you dismiss the AMAZING Born Again? Seventh Star was a interesting album. Sabbath is Sabbath people. I love all incarnations of the band.
You want a travesty as far as replacing a singer? Look no further than Van Halen.
Sabbath did what few bands have been able to do. Replace a key figure in the band. AC/DC did the same thing.
True, I really like what Dio did with Sabbath and he will sorely be missed, and the "Born Again" LP with Ian Gillan is very interesting and definitely not the crap everyone says it is. But look at the two best post-Ozzy albums: Heaven and Hell and Born Again. What do they have in common? All the original instrumentalists of Black Sabbath: Tony, Geezer, and Bill. Lineups where its just Tony left just are NOT Black Sabbath, no matter what you may think of that material.
@TheProudWhite to be honest mate the original sabbath was the best by far, you have paranoid which is far better than heaven and hell even though H&H is a fantastic album it still cant beat the original bands albums, sure dio was a greater singer than ozzy but ozzy's voice suites sabbath better as his voice has the DOOM voice, i agree that born again was amazing and seventh star was good but black sabbath is Ozzy, Bill ward, Tony Iommi And Geezer without one of them it isnt sabbath
@TheProudWhite you miss the point. Without the original four members, it IS NOT BLACK SABBATH. regardless of quality, BLACK SABBATH IS A BIRMINGHAM BAND. I couldnt give a shit if God himself replaced Ozzy on vocals, without Ozzy it is NOT SABBATH.
@PortsmouthNoir In your humble opinion... And in mine, Dehumanizer outright rapes everything Sabbath ever did with Ozzy, and just fucking laughs at anything Ozzy did solo.
@4everliam Diary of a Madman is a terrible album... I really can't stand Ozzy's earliest few solo albums; I just don't like Randy's style. That being said, I do like some of his later stuff... But it's nowhere near the same league as Dio.
@4everliam Well, thank you for contradicting yourself, my good sir! Since not hardly anyone is gonna agree with 'that nonsense', then most people will agree with it! Thanks!
By the way, it is just my opinion, and I fully realize I'm not in the majority when I say it. I'm merely saying what I think.
@DarkWolf5250 Your argument is irrelevant. You cannot compare post-Ozzy albums with Ozzy Sabbath albums. Dehumanizer wouldnt have existed without Ozzys unique voice and persona putting Sabbath on the map. It's like comparing Paranoid to the black album by Metallica. You cannot do it, and the fact that you try to highlights the fact that you are probably a kid who wasnt even born then.
@PortsmouthNoir And why can't you, exactly? How do you know that they may not have found success with a different singer? And why would I try to compare the black album to Paranoid? That's just a stupid comparison. Furthermore, no, I was not born back then, unfortunately, but why does that make my opinion irrelevant?
@TheProudWhite and what did replacing Ozzy do? they were reduced to playing infront of 50 people in clubs, then Ozzy came back and made them relevant again. You are too young to know this.
@PortsmouthNoir too young? lmao I saw them with Dio in the 80's and it was a sold out show with several thousand. The also played Long Beach Arena, Madison Sq Garden, The Spectrum and the Odeon in England. Only small venue times I recall was Seventh Star era. The Philly show was easily well over 15,000 people. Check your Facts dude. Ozzy's Speak of the Devil was recorded at a club (the Ritz) while Live Evil was recorded from ARENAS in San Antonio, Dallas and Seattle.
@PortsmouthNoir Also....if you would check the history of Sabbaths shows most of the tour dates with Ozzy were at smaller venues. Sure, the first reunion was with huge crowds, but back in the 70's they played places like The Whiskey a go go in LA.
@TheProudWhite There's also the fact that even someone farting into a microphone while Tony Iommi plays one of his headcrushing riffs would sound golden, just because IT'S TONY FUCKIN' IOMMI PLAYING FUCK YEAH. Also, Geezer Butler (And often times, Bill Ward, although Cozy Powell was great too)
@TheProudWhite From someone who has followed Sabbath since 1970, yes I can. yes I can. Black Sabbath, Paranoid and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath are more innovative and influential. You seem to forget, no Ozzy era sabbath = no Dio interest in Sabbath. No Ozzy = just another heavy rock band like Rainbow.
You also neglect the facts. Ozzy outsold post-Ozzy Sabbath by MILLIONS. Ozzy is the focal point,You butthurt Dio fans piss me off. Lots of singers sound like Dio NONE like Ozzy. Ozzy = impact.
@TheProudWhite I think you meant: "Ozzy did what few iconic singers have ever been able to do. Get fired despite being the absolute focal point and most important member of the band and yet rise from nothing to become a more relevant, world-tour headlining act on his own, give Randy a pedestal to work on and outsell post-Ozzy Sabbath on his own despite being fucked up all the time".
Even though I agree with Ozzy in that the original lineup is/was the only TRUE "Black Sabbath", the band did make good music with other members (always Tony at the helm) and the press should acknowledge that there have been many "Sabbath" albums since "Never Say Die", albeit with different lineups and, at times, in name only. I am glad the "true" BLACK SABBATH has reunited and I am ecstatic over the new album in the making and the 2012 Tour!!!
Yeah its all opinion and i get tightly wound when people present their opinions as facts. I agree 100% that there has been good material after Ozzy got the boot first time around. Dio era is just insane music but people cant bare the fact that another man stood where Ozzy once did. Its just unbelievable how closed minded some people can be about a band... and lets face it all great bands have to change the line up.
Totally. "Heaven and Hell", "Mob Rules", "Born Again", and some material from the Gillen/Martin years even stands tall. I think the biggest shame is that Geezer and Bill left at points as well, and Iommi, in my opinion, should have changed the name of the group once it was just him left from the original four. But, whatever, it seems like Ozzy got a big stake in the band's name, hence why Tony, Geezer, Dio, and Vinny toured under the "Heaven and Hell" moniker.
♥BLACK SABBATH♥
MsCapricorna 2 weeks ago
NO BILL WARD, NOT BLACK SABBATH
VforAnarchy 3 weeks ago
I'm probably over-analyzing here...but the two who seem most reluctant in the room are Geezer and Ozzy. Geezer though is shy and just wants to make music, I think, but Ozzy doesn't seem to crack a smile once over anything Iommi or Ward says, especially when Ward mentions he and Ozzy fist-fighting. I think that Ozzy (and maybe Sharon) are behind most of this problem with Ward. Iommi's sensible enough to allow Ward his cut since he wrote a lot of the songs too.
blaklodge 3 weeks ago
Rick Rubins team better not fuck the production of this new album up (see Death Magnetic), either way, it cant really be bad either way...
GTAfan421 1 month ago
@GTAfan421 Abso-fucking-lutely. My anticipation level has decreased knowing that charlatan rubin is involved in the new material. Hopefully he wont fuck it up TOO much.
ImperiousKnight 1 month ago
@GTAfan421 I doubt he'll be in the recording room for most of it. I hear he only stops by the studio once in a while when he's "recording" a band (see Slayer for instance).
blaklodge 3 weeks ago
@blaklodge Yeah, but his team is what I'm worried about - he is a great producer and his team used to be top notch before everything they touched started to have the god awful brick walled sound that Death Magnetic prominently featured on every single track.
GTAfan421 3 weeks ago
Fuck yeah no other that OZZY!
romerodonnie 1 month ago
shit i still can't get a word Ozzy speaks...I LOVE THAT MAN! :D
AdamWarlock666 1 month ago 2
@AdamWarlock666 I can he just talks fast keep up!
romerodonnie 1 month ago
going if they play in england (not shitty download)
TangerineWizard123 1 month ago
Tony (I)nventor (O)f (M)etal (M)usic (I)ndeed
beano1eye 2 months ago 6
What Henry Rollins said about listening to Paranoid describes my experience almost word for word. Hearing that album for the first time was one of the most life-altering experiences I've ever had. Rock n' roll's been my religion ever since.
By the way, how come Black Sabbath fans are arguing with each other? That's kinda stupid don't you think?
thejesman 2 months ago
Pavarotti is a better singer than Ozzy too, that doesnt make his music any better. Ozzy, Bill, Tony and Geezer are Black Sabbath. Any other of the 665346 million lineups are just cheap, crappy spinoffs. You people dissect it like a scientist. Rock n roll isnt for you im afraid, go listen to classical music or jazz where you belong.
PortsmouthNoir 2 months ago
i understand ozzy just fine. dunno whats wrong with some of you. ozzy has a thick accent but u should still be able to understand him because i do just fine.
4everliam 2 months ago
i love thissss!
avoidtheimposter 2 months ago
Leonardo Divinci producing Sabbath?
302zman 2 months ago
At first I thought that Rubin guy was Bill Ward... 'Cause they showed him before Ward, so I was like, "Holy shit look at the bloody beard!"...
DarkWolf5250 2 months ago
I wonder if Tony likes kittens
thelege95 2 months ago
Ozzy Redeemed himself by reuniting with Sabbath. Hopefully i'll never see an Ozzy/Beiber commercial again!
exv092 2 months ago
@exv092 That was gay... As Ozzy said at the end of the full thing... "What the fucks a Beiber?"
kosjeyr 2 months ago
Incredible! Listen to Sharon laugh in the background. I hope she doesnt give shit to the rest of the guys
Ramoa111 3 months ago
So glad their making a new album!!!!
the last so-called BS album 'Forbidden', was horrible......
peters9nine 3 months ago
You can tell Geezer is kind of bitter-sweet about it..I think he's still getting over the loss of Dio so abrubtly, not to diss this fantastic news but Heaven and Hell was incredible. Hope they can come up out with something equal or better than The Devil You Know.
metalzep786 3 months ago
for all of you haters of anything BUT Ozzy Era Sabbath....is it considered "Ozzy" without Randy? I mean Bark at the Moon was good but not as good as Diary. And Randy was far better than Zakk. And Jake E. Lee was better than Zakk. And also by your logic Ozzy solo just must suck WITHOUT Sabbath. Can't have Ozzy w/out them, right?
TheProudWhite 3 months ago
Fuck Rick Rubin!!!
metallicaandkornrock 3 months ago
@metallicaandkornrock why? what's wrong with him? not attacking ya, just curious.
MrAzat20 3 months ago
Can't wait till they come to the U.S!!
JontheStripper 3 months ago
They're all alive?
Resurrected2011 3 months ago
@Resurrected2011 amazingly yes
MrAzat20 3 months ago
I hope rubin doesn't fuck up the production of the album! like the mastering.
TheShepster80 3 months ago
28.6.2012, u Beogradu, do jaja :D
dejanbogdanovic 3 months ago
ive seen sabbath in 78 with van halen ..ive seen them with Dio .great!! and i saw the reunion tour..FUCKIN GREAT..im just so happy that SABBATH my idols are able to reunite after 40 years even after the Ozzy law suit against iommi..(sharons doing ofcourse) these guys are the founders of hard heavy guitar riff rock and im glad and thankfull that we will see them again and hear a new sabbath album..im hoping this album is as good as ozzy and geezer say..it would be great..long live BLACK SABBATH
Xboxman4373 3 months ago
holy fuck black sabbath and henry rollins in the same room
griffin456456456 3 months ago 2
Live in london , got tickets for Paris already and will get Download this week... FUCKING COME ON!!!!!!!!!!
gfrkiss 3 months ago
WTF IS OZZY SAYING!
0adireita 3 months ago
I know Geezer is just being Geezer. But come on, lighten up man!
jockejocke1 3 months ago
Bill Ward and Ozzy Osbourne fighting in King Cross...
i´d love to be a fly on the wall for that...
laperuse 3 months ago
Ozzy, The Incomprehensible God of Metal.
cayrano 3 months ago 7
what a beautiful beard!!
DsFunChannel 3 months ago
Nice to see the poppies lads. British legends.
bluesatsunset 3 months ago 2
False metallers are in a shitload of trouble now !
PutItAway101 3 months ago 11
wath dos ozzy says? :o
cant understand hem :p
(Graspop Metal Meeting....= black sabbath)
arnootieflyff 3 months ago 2
Meus pais estão de volta !uhuuuu
piobelo1 3 months ago
Long Live Black Sabbath!!!
tommyknocker777 3 months ago
tony iommi!!!
MadnessCraze 3 months ago
THE GODS OF HEAVY METAL KICK ASS!!!!!
suijin84 3 months ago
check out a Kickass Heavy Metal band from NYC- METALFIER!!!
Metalfier 3 months ago
Heavy fucking Metal Life!!!
Metalfier 3 months ago
YEAH THATS KILLING YOURSELF TO LIVE PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND!
TheVVrit 3 months ago
/watch?v=llWK1cVsnag
TheVVrit 3 months ago
I remember when the babies opened for Alice Cooper. NOt Sabbath. I saw Sabbath in the late seventies and again for the Reunion Tour
CintiRailFan 3 months ago
fuck yeah!!!!
mrmetalnuno 3 months ago
Yes yes yes....Ozzy era Sabbath was great. But tell me, can you find an all around better metal album than Heaven and Hell? Can you dismiss the AMAZING Born Again? Seventh Star was a interesting album. Sabbath is Sabbath people. I love all incarnations of the band.
You want a travesty as far as replacing a singer? Look no further than Van Halen.
Sabbath did what few bands have been able to do. Replace a key figure in the band. AC/DC did the same thing.
TheProudWhite 3 months ago 25
@TheProudWhite
True, I really like what Dio did with Sabbath and he will sorely be missed, and the "Born Again" LP with Ian Gillan is very interesting and definitely not the crap everyone says it is. But look at the two best post-Ozzy albums: Heaven and Hell and Born Again. What do they have in common? All the original instrumentalists of Black Sabbath: Tony, Geezer, and Bill. Lineups where its just Tony left just are NOT Black Sabbath, no matter what you may think of that material.
BluZealot 3 months ago
@TheProudWhite Led Zeppelin luckily stopped before the horrble 80s and Deep purple didnt really did well with new singers and guitarists.
Respect for Black Sabbath.
jamirosmajicrocks 3 months ago
@TheProudWhite to be honest mate the original sabbath was the best by far, you have paranoid which is far better than heaven and hell even though H&H is a fantastic album it still cant beat the original bands albums, sure dio was a greater singer than ozzy but ozzy's voice suites sabbath better as his voice has the DOOM voice, i agree that born again was amazing and seventh star was good but black sabbath is Ozzy, Bill ward, Tony Iommi And Geezer without one of them it isnt sabbath
demonicdillboy1 3 months ago 6
@TheProudWhite dude dude....
Ronnie: DIO
Ozzy: Sabbath....you cant discuss it...
feedback094 3 months ago
@TheProudWhite The first four original sabbath albums blast heaven and hell out of the water. As does Diary of a madman and Blizzard of Oz.
PortsmouthNoir 3 months ago
@TheProudWhite you miss the point. Without the original four members, it IS NOT BLACK SABBATH. regardless of quality, BLACK SABBATH IS A BIRMINGHAM BAND. I couldnt give a shit if God himself replaced Ozzy on vocals, without Ozzy it is NOT SABBATH.
PortsmouthNoir 3 months ago
@PortsmouthNoir you're dead right mate.
MrAzat20 3 months ago
@PortsmouthNoir that is going a bit to far, but that is kinda true.
with Dio (great man BTW) they are Heaven and Hell
with Ozzy they are Black Sabbath
WeirdAl45231 2 months ago
@PortsmouthNoir In your humble opinion... And in mine, Dehumanizer outright rapes everything Sabbath ever did with Ozzy, and just fucking laughs at anything Ozzy did solo.
DarkWolf5250 2 months ago
@DarkWolf5250 u need help. ozzy is sabbath. and diary of a madman kills anything dio ever thought about doing.
4everliam 2 months ago
@4everliam Diary of a Madman is a terrible album... I really can't stand Ozzy's earliest few solo albums; I just don't like Randy's style. That being said, I do like some of his later stuff... But it's nowhere near the same league as Dio.
DarkWolf5250 2 months ago
@DarkWolf5250 u do understand u are in the very SMALL MINORITY HERE DONT YOU? not hardly anyone is gonna agree with that nonsense.
4everliam 2 months ago
@4everliam Well, thank you for contradicting yourself, my good sir! Since not hardly anyone is gonna agree with 'that nonsense', then most people will agree with it! Thanks!
By the way, it is just my opinion, and I fully realize I'm not in the majority when I say it. I'm merely saying what I think.
DarkWolf5250 2 months ago
@DarkWolf5250 Your argument is irrelevant. You cannot compare post-Ozzy albums with Ozzy Sabbath albums. Dehumanizer wouldnt have existed without Ozzys unique voice and persona putting Sabbath on the map. It's like comparing Paranoid to the black album by Metallica. You cannot do it, and the fact that you try to highlights the fact that you are probably a kid who wasnt even born then.
PortsmouthNoir 2 months ago
@PortsmouthNoir And why can't you, exactly? How do you know that they may not have found success with a different singer? And why would I try to compare the black album to Paranoid? That's just a stupid comparison. Furthermore, no, I was not born back then, unfortunately, but why does that make my opinion irrelevant?
DarkWolf5250 2 months ago
@TheProudWhite and what did replacing Ozzy do? they were reduced to playing infront of 50 people in clubs, then Ozzy came back and made them relevant again. You are too young to know this.
PortsmouthNoir 3 months ago
@PortsmouthNoir too young? lmao I saw them with Dio in the 80's and it was a sold out show with several thousand. The also played Long Beach Arena, Madison Sq Garden, The Spectrum and the Odeon in England. Only small venue times I recall was Seventh Star era. The Philly show was easily well over 15,000 people. Check your Facts dude. Ozzy's Speak of the Devil was recorded at a club (the Ritz) while Live Evil was recorded from ARENAS in San Antonio, Dallas and Seattle.
TheProudWhite 3 months ago
@PortsmouthNoir Also....if you would check the history of Sabbaths shows most of the tour dates with Ozzy were at smaller venues. Sure, the first reunion was with huge crowds, but back in the 70's they played places like The Whiskey a go go in LA.
TheProudWhite 3 months ago
@TheProudWhite There's also the fact that even someone farting into a microphone while Tony Iommi plays one of his headcrushing riffs would sound golden, just because IT'S TONY FUCKIN' IOMMI PLAYING FUCK YEAH. Also, Geezer Butler (And often times, Bill Ward, although Cozy Powell was great too)
Roolek 2 months ago
@TheProudWhite Born again was crap.
I see what you're saying, But Sabbath IS Sabbath because of the Ozzy years, and there is no comparison
After Mob Rules, the band finally fell apart..
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@TheProudWhite From someone who has followed Sabbath since 1970, yes I can. yes I can. Black Sabbath, Paranoid and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath are more innovative and influential. You seem to forget, no Ozzy era sabbath = no Dio interest in Sabbath. No Ozzy = just another heavy rock band like Rainbow.
You also neglect the facts. Ozzy outsold post-Ozzy Sabbath by MILLIONS. Ozzy is the focal point,You butthurt Dio fans piss me off. Lots of singers sound like Dio NONE like Ozzy. Ozzy = impact.
PortsmouthNoir 2 months ago
@TheProudWhite I think you meant: "Ozzy did what few iconic singers have ever been able to do. Get fired despite being the absolute focal point and most important member of the band and yet rise from nothing to become a more relevant, world-tour headlining act on his own, give Randy a pedestal to work on and outsell post-Ozzy Sabbath on his own despite being fucked up all the time".
Yeah, that's better.
PortsmouthNoir 2 months ago
lets hope they dont fall out again
horselaverda 3 months ago 32
@horselaverda Oh if they did it would be like WTF!?!?!?!?!?
kosjeyr 2 months ago
Even though I agree with Ozzy in that the original lineup is/was the only TRUE "Black Sabbath", the band did make good music with other members (always Tony at the helm) and the press should acknowledge that there have been many "Sabbath" albums since "Never Say Die", albeit with different lineups and, at times, in name only. I am glad the "true" BLACK SABBATH has reunited and I am ecstatic over the new album in the making and the 2012 Tour!!!
BluZealot 3 months ago 3
@BluZealot
Yeah its all opinion and i get tightly wound when people present their opinions as facts. I agree 100% that there has been good material after Ozzy got the boot first time around. Dio era is just insane music but people cant bare the fact that another man stood where Ozzy once did. Its just unbelievable how closed minded some people can be about a band... and lets face it all great bands have to change the line up.
ironaaron666 3 months ago
@ironaaron666
Totally. "Heaven and Hell", "Mob Rules", "Born Again", and some material from the Gillen/Martin years even stands tall. I think the biggest shame is that Geezer and Bill left at points as well, and Iommi, in my opinion, should have changed the name of the group once it was just him left from the original four. But, whatever, it seems like Ozzy got a big stake in the band's name, hence why Tony, Geezer, Dio, and Vinny toured under the "Heaven and Hell" moniker.
BluZealot 3 months ago
Yay Sabbath are Go!!!!!! - Hank Is a Dude. Another album from Henry Rollins too!!!!!
hoppinonabronzeleg 3 months ago