@KaIubka when you alpha a target, everyone shoots at the same target at the same time for highest volley damage. Some ships will have a lower effective hit point value then the sum of volley damage from all aggressors.
@D3adP00I So "alpha" in general just means the damage per volley. And "alpha" is also a synonyme for being primaried/primarying someone? Sorry for my possibly dumbness, but I really have never heard this before.
@KaIubka alpha is first letter of the Greek alphabet and as such it generally means "first" or begining. So a volley is an alpha strike (typically in refrence to a large one, like artillery); being primary in a fleet battle means your the alpha target (the first). In this video they were worried that the initial damage would be enough to get threw the armor; hence, why the pilot had slave impants.
@D3adP00I Another question: What does Effective Hitpoints mean? The higher the amount, the better the tank. A properly fit Nyx has about 28 mil EHP, but in the killmails, they only take roughly 3 mil before they pop. How is EHP related to one's tank?
@KaIubka ehp is the amount of hitpoints your ship can withstand before exploding, generally its the amount of buffer you have before death. But this doesn't have anything to do with sustained defense of a ship such as reps or remote reps (although survival depends on both). A lot of tools/utilities show average ehp over all resistances on the ship; however, the ship could die with much lower ehp if attacked at the lowest resistance, hence the kill mail showing diffrent ehp.
@D3adP00I "amount of hitpoints your ship can withstand"....yeah that's what I thought, too, but....back to the example with the Nyx. A properly fit Nyx, slaved etc., has an EHP-value of 28.239.040. In the killmails, they take 2,8-3,0 million damage until they pop. The worst resist is Explosive with 84,8. That means that, if the enemies do only Explosive damage, they do 84,8% less damage than they technically should, right? So just 15,2%. I now divided the Nyx's EHP by 100...
@KaIubka The resistances are already calculated for ehp. The kill mails aren't very accurate either they only calculate an amount of damage received over the last 14 min or aggro counter (*not sure of time length) . If it takes longer to kill or the aggro stops and starts again the total hit points will not be seen in the kill mail. Almost all capitals will hang in a fight long enough to reset the counter, smaller ship fights will be more accurate for ehp.
@D3adP00I Ok. Thank you. I don't really understand this, but I think it's like this: The Nyx has its resists and 28,4mil EHP. Those EHP mean, that, if the Nyx had 0% resistances, but 28,4mil absolute HP, it would take the exact same time to kill it?
@KaIubka im not sure were ur getting the 28mill hitpoints from. A nyx has 2.9million average over all resistances unfitted. Even with slaves and high resistances with tech two trimark its possible to get 18million but most people will not fit a ship like this. When you look at efp, the resistances are already calculated into effect no need for math (depending on what tool your getting your numbers from). But 28.4 mill is way off.
@D3adP00I I'm getting it from EFT. Average resists are 89%, I'm using the standard fit (Slave set, 4 Hardeners, 2 EANMs (Corpum A-Type ofc), Damage Control, 3x Trimark Armor Pump). I get 2,95 million Armor HP and 28,2 million EHP, EFT tells me that. My Wyvern fit reaches 40 mil HP with 2 Pithum A-Types, 5x Pith-X hardeners, 3x CN Power Diagnostics, Shield Core Extenders and also a Slave set plus an implant that gives +6% shield HP.
@KaIubka A good example of a use of efp is: A typical battleship has ~100,000 hitpoints, so an aggressor doing 1000 dps will kill your ship in 100seconds. If your battleship as a local rep of 350dps then you can subtract this from the aggressors damage (1,000dps - 350dps) = 650dps. 100,000/650 means you will last about 153 seconds with the rep (not exact, but close).
For those of you who thought that EvE Online was not becoming reality and only a game. Here is proof that EvE Online is becoming reality. There is a new Carrier based drone called the X-47B will be launched from carriers and remotely controlled by pilots within the carrier. So the next time that you launch your drones remember that the reality of Drone Carrier Warfare is becoming a reality. The article can be read in the Dec. 2011 Volume 188 No 12 edition of Popular Mechanics.
I dont know about anyone else but I just started training for a capital pilot position. I used to be more a battle cruiser kind of guy but this game is changing. I am willing to bet eve will be all pvp in the near future. Just look at the new Bc's. A bc fitted with torps and bombs. That sounds more geared towards null sec players not highsec but it makes sense. Ccp makes more money off null sec players especially after a war.
@Dweller3rd PvE has had many new additions, they already have great mission runners, no need for new toys to spam lvl 4's. the new bc's are not null sec pvp corp exclusive, they are cheap and easy to get into. everyone will use them.
This makes Eve look truly awesome. It is just a shame there arent many people that justify the amount of time and dedication it takes to be considered 'dependable'.
@Ffflcnphnx7 i donno but i can't freakin stand it, i want to kill the screamin flat chested jap girls that sing the chorus... actually i wanna bash their heads in w/ a heavy rock. took me forever to actually watch this awesome video due to that sound track.
wow... just AWESOME ! now thats how combat operations should look like ! Outgunned and outnumbered and yet still come out on top ! and with minimal casualties no less.
12:00
serenitytyaena 1 week ago
It kinda looks like something is happening, but what is happening:P?
Alecz156 2 weeks ago
what does this sentence mean: "The Chimras are slaved against alpha" ?
KaIubka 3 weeks ago
@KaIubka This means the pilots have slave impants to help incrase the amount of armor hitpoints so they cannot be alphaed with damage.
D3adP00I 3 weeks ago
@D3adP00I Yeah I know what Slaves are :) But what does "alpha" mean? Armor damage in general?
KaIubka 3 weeks ago
@KaIubka alpha refer to the damage per shot, an high alpha means the damage is coming in (big) bursts
rounoff 3 weeks ago
@KaIubka when you alpha a target, everyone shoots at the same target at the same time for highest volley damage. Some ships will have a lower effective hit point value then the sum of volley damage from all aggressors.
D3adP00I 3 weeks ago
@D3adP00I So "alpha" in general just means the damage per volley. And "alpha" is also a synonyme for being primaried/primarying someone? Sorry for my possibly dumbness, but I really have never heard this before.
KaIubka 3 weeks ago
@KaIubka alpha is first letter of the Greek alphabet and as such it generally means "first" or begining. So a volley is an alpha strike (typically in refrence to a large one, like artillery); being primary in a fleet battle means your the alpha target (the first). In this video they were worried that the initial damage would be enough to get threw the armor; hence, why the pilot had slave impants.
D3adP00I 3 weeks ago
@D3adP00I Another question: What does Effective Hitpoints mean? The higher the amount, the better the tank. A properly fit Nyx has about 28 mil EHP, but in the killmails, they only take roughly 3 mil before they pop. How is EHP related to one's tank?
KaIubka 3 weeks ago
@KaIubka ehp is the amount of hitpoints your ship can withstand before exploding, generally its the amount of buffer you have before death. But this doesn't have anything to do with sustained defense of a ship such as reps or remote reps (although survival depends on both). A lot of tools/utilities show average ehp over all resistances on the ship; however, the ship could die with much lower ehp if attacked at the lowest resistance, hence the kill mail showing diffrent ehp.
D3adP00I 3 weeks ago
@D3adP00I "amount of hitpoints your ship can withstand"....yeah that's what I thought, too, but....back to the example with the Nyx. A properly fit Nyx, slaved etc., has an EHP-value of 28.239.040. In the killmails, they take 2,8-3,0 million damage until they pop. The worst resist is Explosive with 84,8. That means that, if the enemies do only Explosive damage, they do 84,8% less damage than they technically should, right? So just 15,2%. I now divided the Nyx's EHP by 100...
KaIubka 3 weeks ago
@D3adP00I ...but nvm, I calculated wrong. It's ok. I really appreciate your help, but nonetheless I don't really get this :(
KaIubka 3 weeks ago
@KaIubka The resistances are already calculated for ehp. The kill mails aren't very accurate either they only calculate an amount of damage received over the last 14 min or aggro counter (*not sure of time length) . If it takes longer to kill or the aggro stops and starts again the total hit points will not be seen in the kill mail. Almost all capitals will hang in a fight long enough to reset the counter, smaller ship fights will be more accurate for ehp.
D3adP00I 3 weeks ago
@D3adP00I Ok. Thank you. I don't really understand this, but I think it's like this: The Nyx has its resists and 28,4mil EHP. Those EHP mean, that, if the Nyx had 0% resistances, but 28,4mil absolute HP, it would take the exact same time to kill it?
KaIubka 3 weeks ago
@KaIubka im not sure were ur getting the 28mill hitpoints from. A nyx has 2.9million average over all resistances unfitted. Even with slaves and high resistances with tech two trimark its possible to get 18million but most people will not fit a ship like this. When you look at efp, the resistances are already calculated into effect no need for math (depending on what tool your getting your numbers from). But 28.4 mill is way off.
D3adP00I 2 weeks ago
@D3adP00I I'm getting it from EFT. Average resists are 89%, I'm using the standard fit (Slave set, 4 Hardeners, 2 EANMs (Corpum A-Type ofc), Damage Control, 3x Trimark Armor Pump). I get 2,95 million Armor HP and 28,2 million EHP, EFT tells me that. My Wyvern fit reaches 40 mil HP with 2 Pithum A-Types, 5x Pith-X hardeners, 3x CN Power Diagnostics, Shield Core Extenders and also a Slave set plus an implant that gives +6% shield HP.
KaIubka 2 weeks ago
@KaIubka A good example of a use of efp is: A typical battleship has ~100,000 hitpoints, so an aggressor doing 1000 dps will kill your ship in 100seconds. If your battleship as a local rep of 350dps then you can subtract this from the aggressors damage (1,000dps - 350dps) = 650dps. 100,000/650 means you will last about 153 seconds with the rep (not exact, but close).
D3adP00I 2 weeks ago
@D3adP00I Thank you, that made it much clearer :)
KaIubka 2 weeks ago
Whats the song at last during the credits?
drphoenix07 1 month ago
Thank god this girl didn't narrate Clarion Call 3
Whaaaaaaattt 2 months ago
For those of you who thought that EvE Online was not becoming reality and only a game. Here is proof that EvE Online is becoming reality. There is a new Carrier based drone called the X-47B will be launched from carriers and remotely controlled by pilots within the carrier. So the next time that you launch your drones remember that the reality of Drone Carrier Warfare is becoming a reality. The article can be read in the Dec. 2011 Volume 188 No 12 edition of Popular Mechanics.
drysonbennington 2 months ago 4
Whats the first song of the vid it was very nice?
liberty211662 2 months ago
@liberty211662 i hope u an't talkin about the cat in a blender sound track, freakin horrible
D3adP00I 3 weeks ago
I dont know about anyone else but I just started training for a capital pilot position. I used to be more a battle cruiser kind of guy but this game is changing. I am willing to bet eve will be all pvp in the near future. Just look at the new Bc's. A bc fitted with torps and bombs. That sounds more geared towards null sec players not highsec but it makes sense. Ccp makes more money off null sec players especially after a war.
Dweller3rd 3 months ago
@Dweller3rd PvE has had many new additions, they already have great mission runners, no need for new toys to spam lvl 4's. the new bc's are not null sec pvp corp exclusive, they are cheap and easy to get into. everyone will use them.
foryourgore 2 months ago
So i take it this video was made before the Super Buff and the proliferation of Supers?
Mattax355 3 months ago
/salute.
omganotherun 3 months ago
I love the Cannon Fodder music!!!
This makes Eve look truly awesome. It is just a shame there arent many people that justify the amount of time and dedication it takes to be considered 'dependable'.
MrRavoss 3 months ago 2
Amiga version of Cannon Fodder intro at the end! haha
sactownchad 3 months ago
Oh wow just realised I am one of the carriers on the enemy side... we were dropped in late just to get on that triage carrier km.
captainandrey 3 months ago
too bad about the narrator
BrokenSprocket 3 months ago
Is it Godspeed You! Black Emperor playing around 2.30 minutes in?
F0ndu 3 months ago
And again R&K make me want to fly a carrier even more... Yet my friends are goading me into TEST. Goddamit...
katushkin89 3 months ago
so - where can i find clarion call 1?
Eshinto 3 months ago
DAMN, only now i saw this video, not easy to find him, title sucks, Found this video only because CCP liked 3rd part, and it gives me a direction.
Are you recrutink?
OttoVonStrunf 3 months ago
Ooh nice, how many Large Egress rigs do u guys put per carrier? =P
raidnkill 3 months ago
U guys have my utmost respect. Brilliant tactics.
RoidWalker 3 months ago
where the hell is part 1?
Wargargble 3 months ago
@PsychoLynchy Clarion call 3 will be released within the hour! will link here
Liammcgowan 3 months ago 2
How do I go about getting trained by you guys....As a Logi guy this just made me cream my pants...*crit fail in pants*
I need to learn your ways.
LordViktor299 3 months ago
Great video! What is the name of the Japanese song in the beginning? I know I have heard it before.
Ffflcnphnx7 3 months ago
@Ffflcnphnx7 ghost in the shell
Liammcgowan 3 months ago
@Ffflcnphnx7 It's the opening music to Ghost in the Shell.
loathidiots 3 months ago
@Ffflcnphnx7 the exact track is from ghost in the shell innocence and is titled : 10 - Kugutsuuta kagirohi ha yomi ni mata muto
squeak83uk2 3 months ago
@Ffflcnphnx7
Its from Clanbase Tournament 3 movie... anno 1997 or something :P
Loki19810310 3 months ago
@Ffflcnphnx7 i donno but i can't freakin stand it, i want to kill the screamin flat chested jap girls that sing the chorus... actually i wanna bash their heads in w/ a heavy rock. took me forever to actually watch this awesome video due to that sound track.
D3adP00I 3 weeks ago
This is epic!
eveonline247 4 months ago in playlist EVE Online PvP Compilations [Solo, Small Gang & Cinematics]
lol also I luved the fireworks that those smartbomb battleships provided hahah !
ZinXlX 4 months ago
wow... just AWESOME ! now thats how combat operations should look like ! Outgunned and outnumbered and yet still come out on top ! and with minimal casualties no less.
ZinXlX 4 months ago
+1 for cannon fodder :)
toltekus 5 months ago
@12:00 capacatator? lol!!!
ibanez0r420 5 months ago
@ibanez0r420 yea thats what happens when you got a high grade talisman energy triage zapping you :-)
Liammcgowan 3 months ago
great video nice songs^^
Lubshaa 5 months ago
new video on the way soon :-)
Liammcgowan 6 months ago 7
@Liammcgowan
Very cool! Looking forward to it.
ihcrAFOOL 6 months ago
@Liammcgowan WHEN! WHEN GOSH DARN IT!
PsychoLynchy 5 months ago
@PsychoLynchy cc3 before end of the month for sure. im only a day or two from seeing a private extended preview.
Liammcgowan 5 months ago 2
This is by far the best video i've seen. Congratulations im jelly of these eve skills
JaymesWelty 6 months ago
Great video :D
Sargethepyromaniac 6 months ago
best series in eve period. thanks for these. Great vids
p0rnstorejanitor 6 months ago