lisen im not follwoing a book that tells u drink alcohol for worrys and says jesus was tempted by the devil people are getting medicne from the quran ill prove it see my videos on youtube ZAID GHAZZWI
This Egyptian priest is a great gift from God to the Muslim people. Many God the Father bless his labor, and grant him many spiritual children to the glory of the Father and the Son.
As well as Zakaria Boutros rape of a child in the Church of St "Abram" in Brighton, England
Did you think that Jesus peace be upon him agree to adultery and sodomy and rape? I do not think peace be upon him was one of the best and purest men who we know him in the world , after all this you can trust in the words of men like this?
@Islamtruth333 What is this? Attacking the messenger instead of disputing his arguments? Any evil man can speak of the truth and that wouldn't make it false. The message is NOT always dependent on the messenger.
This guy is The best solution to the problems posed by Islam/Muslims. I say screw it expose Islam so it can be reformed or else they will do something so stupid sooner or later that they are gonna get nuked either by Isreal, Russia, China, India or even USA if they pull another 9/11. Good job sir keep up the good work but do it fast before they kill you - I know they go after all opstates. Muslims bashing this guy u have no right before u study what he mentioned-no room for just bitter liars
he's making fun of the mentality of the Christians and take advantage of their ignorance of Islam , who does not believe me can search by himself in the sources which he says its name and then you will discover how much he malicious and LIAR this sick mind
@believergod3 you are just making fun of your own cheap and stupid mentality. How could you bash him without checking the sources he gave you. A big tell tell sign is when muslims run out of even lame excuses (not even logical rebuttles) all they do is claim insults on others without even mentioning the subject mater or proof presented to them. What pathetic loosers!!!
Zakaria Boutros is a big LIAR and despicable and the Egyptian Church was stripped him of his office because of his bad morals !!! also he implicated of many moral crimes and he is prohibited from entering Egypt ,he is try to making sectarianism sedition between Muslims and Christians this despicable monkey ,
@believergod3 Nope! u r bitter and hence wrong! Zakaria Boutros is a big EXPOSER of true Islam and the Egyptian Church is scared of muslims for its security thats why they have removed him and prohibited him from entering Egypt because they want to distance themselves from him to stay safe from angry violent muslims. Not Christians but these violent muslims will attack Christians and churches like the've done in the past in other muslim countries. Truth causes muslims to be violent- its typical!
Everyone can making sure by himself from the scandals of this priest, who the history did not know more liar, deceit and malignancy than him ! is a disgrace for all Christians search anyone who wants on the Internet, newspapers and news broadcasts and you will find a lot of scandals in Egypt and abroad ! and if you are you know about these facts but defended him then i will consider you does not deserve respect ! a Muslim never lies ! all what I said it correctly and
check your information before you rushing because of your patient hatred of Muslims and defended for a liar and the biggest in history fraudYou say that the Egyptian church isolation from office for fear of violence of Muslims!!! What you say about what the West has also recognized for his behavior deviant????he practiced adultery with a Coptic girl from Melbourne – Australia. Moreover he converted the St Abraam Church in Briton – UK into a horehouse!
@jaxlnc He used to receive money from adulteress and drunken people against allowing them to practice their sinful deeds inside the church. ALSO FATHER Bishawi, deputy of Pope Shenouda III and bishop of Damietta and Kafr Al-Sheikh, said that Zakaria Botros had kicked one of Copts using his feet and caused a permanent physical disability for him just because he refused to practice homosexuality with him in his office at the Church of Briton – UK!
@believergod3 I don't expect any less lies from you guys trying to discredit any one who exposes Islam/Muslims for what they really are! Keep lying about every single person who says anything you don't like people can tell your lies when you don't address the things he mentioned at all and simply just go after the person digging dirt on them and then failing to come up with any dirt you then fabricate lying or bogus counter videos
celltechlars and jaxlnc, Praise be to God that ye met here I tired to respond to each of you individually , i will answering you both together , first celltechlars , what is the problem and funny that my words are the same thing? And it will be the same in A million videos too because This the truth , but also I will going to create a video ad hoc basis of this argument is supported with documents reveal the truth about this pastor pervert Pedophileto and homosexual in all the world!
@believergod3 SAVE IT DUDE! you are going to produce documents that are forged by muslims to discredit this guy - yeah nice try kido! You are just trying to avoid the things he said in the video because you have no proof against that-thats why you are going after the guy. Typical muslim looser behavior "CAN"T ARGUE THE MESSAGE THEN LETS KILL THE MESSANGER". Muslims often try to prevent others from thinking about the message by trying to spread lies about the messanger. WE know all your tactics!
Are you braying these same lame "truths" here as well? I honoured your claims, and searched hard and deep, only to tell you here and now, you're not only brainwashed, you are brain dead. Botros is just fine, and you have no honour. Only shame. How pathetic of you to think that a slandering sack of shit like you can somehow be a man of God. pathetic. You shame yourself, your parents, and Islam at large. You cowardly good for fuck all pretent muslim looser.
what is your opinion of the pastor who changing the Bible and be lie of God to win the battle delusional, even if without any honor ? Is it excluded him that he distorts the Koran and maligned the Messenger of Allah ? Watch this video
to see how much he lying and sly and he's making fun of the mentality of the Christians like you and take advantage of their ignorance of Islam
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is evil like this can be a trusty source about what he said?
Seen the film "The Stoning of Soraya M."? Gives a good account of what Islam is up to now... unlike Lionheart's peristence in placing blame to events and practices no longer practiced by Jews and Christians today. And yet he talks about "projecting other religions' shortcomings to Islam..." Whew!
We've seen an inordinate number of Muslim attempts at stifling free speech. We've seen Muslim nations attempting to limit free speech through the UN. We've seen news crews getting attacked. Again. And again. We've seen Muslims demanding the removal of peaceful messages. We've seen Muslims attacking cartoonists and committing arson against their homes. We've seen Muslims threatening cartoonists. We've seen Muslims attempting to kill cartoo
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war." 9:5
Thousands of Muslims protesting a newspaper article they say was critical of Islam clashed with police in southern India, leaving at least two people dead and dozens injured, police said on Tuesday.
Nearly 3,000 Muslims took to the streets after a newspaper published an article by controversial Bangladesh writer Taslima Nasrin challenging the Islamic tradition of wearing veils as an infringement on women's freedom.
Nasrin left Bangladesh in 1994 after Islamic extremists threatened to kill her.
1 Apr 2010 ... Pope Benedict cannot be called to testify at any sex abuse trial because he has immunity as a head of state, a top Vatican legal official claims
@lionheart1965 The Pope doesn't represent Christ; and pedophilia is a sin. They will get punished in due time as they are all accountable to God. The Catholic Church doesn't even represent the true Christianity by Biblical standards.
@lionheart1965 Taliking about respect...you make me laught boy. You muslims dont have whatsoever respect for non-muslims. You are also one example of disrespect. You called Jesus a gay. where is your respect. You muslims are obsessed by hate and anger. Hate and anger are from the devil, not from God. Jesus is the son of God, who is one with God, individable. Jesus is also your God even though you make jokes with him. Jesus is love, God is love. The devil is hate.
@lionheart1965 My friend, I think that you start long ago abusing Christianity, but saying that Jesus is a prophet and muslim. It is the same as to say that Mohamed is a boyfriend of Elton John. You always call christians and jews non-believers. THIS IS DISRESPECT.
@ggrean speak the truth, and dust your feet and walk... stay connected to jesus.. and remove your self from politics.. heal the sick, raise the dead and preach the truth.. that's jesus commandment..
@lionheart1965 I think you are a bit confused. I have heart from many muslims that you (muslims) love Jesus, but you called him gay. So expalin please? I also know many muslim woman in turkey for example who pray to Maria, the mother of Jesus. Here you are making jokes of her. Explain again?
@lionheart1965 The problem with you my friend is that you follow teaching which at are not God's teachings. That is why you are so much hateful. You can make as many jokes over Jesus as you want. You dont heart me. I am orthodox Christian and I love Jesus. You can say whatever you want over him. It is your choice.
@lionheart1965 Muslims have a problem with everyone NOT believing in Islam, fair and simple. That's why the world is divided from a Muslim's POV: Dar as-Salam (literally house/abode of Islam) and Dar al-Harb (house of war, referring to those countries where the Muslim law is not in force). A traditional Arabic saying attributed to Muhammad goes: "Unbelief is one community", or in other words, "infidels are of one nation".
@lionheart1965 I am proud to be orthodox Christian, but if I WERE muslim I would be ashaimed...just because of people like you. You are full of hate and anger, but this is not what God teach us. Jesus, the son of God who is one with God, teach us to love each other.
You can speak on behalf of yourself-------but not behalf of me. I am proud of that for each of Zakaria's FILTH---I can answer from his own book "Bible"----and in same language, which he understands---------I have challenged Zakaria for have a debate--------he has NOT EVEN been able to answer my simple questions--
@lionheart1965 My friend you didnt answer my question. So I am repeating it: I know from muslims that you (muslims) love Jesus. If you are muslim why are you calling him gay? Expalin please? I also know many muslim woman in turkey for example who pray to Maria, the holy mother of Jesus. Here you are making jokes of her. Explain again?
@lionheart1965 My friend when you make jokes with Jesus, you make jokes with God. Do you realize that? Even if you are muslim (as you say) you still cannot make jokes with him, becuase I know that you muslims love and respect Jesus. The same holds for the holy mother of God, Maria. You make jokes of her, but i know that muslim women in turkey pray to her. ???? So you are not christian, not muslim?????
@lionheart1965 Just think for yourself...which book is more likely to be the word of God? The book that teaches us to love our friends and enemies, or the book that teaches us to kill jews...God wants us to love each other and live in harmony. God doesnt want us to kill each other. Why would he? He is powerful enough to kill if he wants, he doesnt need us for that job. Only God can create lifes and take lifes. God is great and merciful and loving. Read the bible and judge for yourself...
@lionheart1965 My friend, you still keep avoiding my previous reaction. So i am reaping it: ''When you make jokes with Jesus, you make jokes with God. Do you realize that? Even if you are muslim (as you say) you still cannot make jokes with him, becuase I know that you muslims love and respect Jesus (as one of your prophets). The same holds for the holy mother of God, Maria. You make jokes of her, but i know that muslim women in turkey pray to her. ???? Explain please.
ok boys and girls here is our bible quote for the day!
Taking captive, killing and raping natives in Bible (Deut 20:13-14):
And when the lord thy god has delivered your enemies into your hands, you shall KILL every male thereof with the edge of the sword.
Take the women, and the little virgin girls, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, as a plunder for yourselves. You shall eat the spoil of your enemies.
Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.
One witness said 3 policemen "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya".
The Saudi Gazette quoted that the police had stopped men who tried to help the girls and warned "it is a sinful to approach them".
"...and [they] deceived and Allah deceived and Allah is the best of deceivers" - Sura 3:54 Sura 3:54 Arabic: Wa Makaru wa makara Allah wa Allah Amkaru al Makireen. Likewise the phrase of Allah "being the best deceiver" (kheir ol makarein) is also used of Allah in Suras 8:30 and 10:21. Sura 10:21 says Allah is the fastest in planning/deceit Other references to the plotting/deceit/scheming of Allah are Sura 7:99; 27:50; 13:42; 14:46; 43:79; 86:15f.; 7:100; 4:142
Jer 20:7—In what way did God use his strength against Jeremiah and fool him? Because of facing indifference, rejection, and persecution when declaring Gods judgments, Jeremiah might have felt that he did not have the strength to continue. However, God used his strength against such inclinations, empowering Jeremiah to continue. God thus fooled Jeremiah by using him to accomplish what the prophet himself thought he could not do. God cannot lie. (Titus 1:2) You cannot say the same to Allah.
Allah deceive BAD people only?Well, isn't Jesus one of his prophets? So, Jesus' followers and apostles must be GOOD, yet in Quran, 4:157-158 "That they said (in boast), We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah—but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not—nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself...
Why do Allah have to DECEIVE these people who are supposedly following one of his prophet? What good would it bring? Is he playing around with these people?
I'm still waiting for your comment on the burnt Saudi girls...
Christ's followers believed he was impaled/crucified. So, they were deceived? By whom? According to Quran, by Allah. According to you, by Satan. Hmmm...
It doesn't matter if you're a Shia or a Sunni; fact is you're a Muslim following Mohammed and the Quran is full of abrogations.
Any words on the burnt girls? You're so silent on this, eh?
and their boast, "Behold, we have slain the Christ Jesus, son of Mary, [who claimed to be] an apostle of God!" However, they did not slay him, and neither did they crucify him, but it only seemed to them [as if it had been] so; and, verily, those who hold conflicting views thereon are indeed confused, having no [real] knowledge thereof, and following mere conjecture. For, of a certainty, they did not slay him
Then why didn't Jesus' apostles know the "truth?" They knew Jesus died there. We're not talking about Jesus' enemies here, but his followers. Give me an answer to this.
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234: Narrated Abu Qilaba: Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine).
Anyway, lets take a quick glance of FACTS: Mohammad/Jesus
Married a GIRL? Yes/No
Killed people? Yes/No
Had Slaves? Yes/NO
Preached Killings? Yes/NO
Attacked caravans/cities? Yes/NO Shall I add more? shall I add more? These are FACTS, and I can't same the same with your own twisted interpretation of the Bible.
To the Jews, dogs were unclean. So by alluding to Gentiles as "little dogs", was Jesus showing prejudice? No, for he had just mentioned his special commission from God to care for the lost sheep of Israel. Moreover, by likening non-Jews to little dogs, not WILD dogs, He softened the comparison. Of course what he said tested the woman. Humbly, though determined to overcome this objection, she tactfully replied. Impressed with the womans faith, he healed her daughter immediately.—Mat 15:22-28.
The land of Canaan was saturated with detestable practices of idolatry, immorality, and bloodshed. The Canaanite religion was extraordinarily base and degraded, their sacred poles evidently being phallic symbols, and many of the rites at their high places involving gross sexual excesses and depravity. (Ex 23:24; 34:12, 13; Nu 33:52; De 7:5)
Incest, sodomy, and bestiality were part of the way of the land of Canaan that made the land unclean and for which error it was due to vomit its inhabitants out. (Le 18:2-25) Magic, spellbinding, spiritism, and sacrifice of their children by fire were also among the Canaanites detestable practices.—De 18:9-12. Is this not reason enough for judgment?
The issue involved is that of whether Gods sovereignty over the earth and its inhabitants is acknowledged or not. He had deeded over the right of tenure of Canaan to the seed of Abraham, by an oath-bound covenant. (Ge 12:5-7 ) But more than a mere eviction was purposed. His right to act as Judge of all the earth and to decree the sentence of capital punishment upon those found meriting it, his right to implement and enforce the execution of such decree, was also involved.
Am I dealing with a juvenile here? How old are you, 14? 15? I only seem to get infantile replies. Instead of defending your faith and "prophet" you just post this shallow remarks and accusations . You're like one of those blind men groping an elephant, if you know what I mean. Surely, you can do better than this...
1. God has the right to judge and carry out execution to those meriting it. We are the "end of days" heading to the Great Tribulation that will culminate in Armageddon where God will be judgment upon all mankind. 2. Captive women were not used as sex slaves. They were taken as wives and had to undergo a period of mourning before any sexual relations take place. Let's compare this to
Narrated Abu al-Khudri: "We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's messenger about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection." Here, Muslims had taken female slaves, and had sex with them. Muhammad approved of this. He only admonished them not to practice coitus interruptus.
Vol. 5-#459 Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: "I entered the mosque and saw Abu Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu said, "We went out with Allah's messenger for the Ghazwa (attack upon) Banu Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus.
So when we intended to do coitus interruptus we said We asked (him) about it and he said "It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."How can we do coitus interruptus without asking Allah's messenger while he is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said "It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."
Here, the Muslims attacked the Banu Mustaliq and took slaves. The females were distributed as booty. The soldiers want to have sexual relations with the NEWLY captured slaves. They went to Muhammad and asked about coitus interruptus. He told them not to practice that, but to complete the sexual act. Related Hadith shows they didn't want to get the women pregnant becasue they wanted to sell them later on. Under Islamic law they're not allowed to sell pregnant slaves.
Jesus was NEVER racist. The Gentile woman's reaction was far from being offended, but was clearly attracted by Jesus' kind and mild tone. And didn't Jesus heal her child? Is this "kind act" racism? Now let's consider this: Ishaq:243 "I heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom."
[9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, 'If a black man comes to you, his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'" Ishaq:144 "A rock was put on a slave's chest. Bukhari:V4B52N137 "The Prophet said, 'Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him (sadism) If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [for paradise], it will be denied.'"
"It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah's army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent." (Arab supremacist racism) Ishaq:374
"These were the names of Mohammed's male slaves: Yakan Abu Sharh, Aflah, Ubayd, Dhakwan, Tahman, Mirwan, Hunayn, Sanad, Fadala Yamamin, Anjasha, Al Hadi, Mad'am, Karkara, Abu Rafi', Thawban, Ab Kabsha, Salih, Rabah, Yara Nubyan, Fadila, Waqid, Mabur, Abu Waqid, Kasam, Abu 'Ayb, Abu Muwayhiba, Zayd Ibn Haritha, and also a black slave called Mahran, who was re-named (by Mohammed) to Safina (ship)."
Mohammed's Female Slaves Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya in "Zad al-Ma'ad" continues: "These are the names of Mohammed's Female slaves: Salma Um Rafi', Maymuna daughter of Abu Asib, Maymuna daughter of Sa'd, Khadra, Radwa, Razina, Um Damira, Rayhana, Mary the Coptic, in addition to 2 other maid-slaves, one of them given to him as a present by his cousin, Zaynab, and the other one captured in a war." Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya: "Zad al-Ma'ad" Vol 1, p. 116)
So in addition to 21 wives, by average Mohammed also owned 11 concubines and female sex slaves. It is clear for all, where Mohammed, the Quran and Allah stand on slavery, and Africans.
ok boys and girls here is our bible quote for the day!
Taking captive, killing and raping natives in Bible (Deut 20:13-14):
And when the lord thy god has delivered your enemies into your hands, you shall KILL every male thereof with the edge of the sword.
Take the women, and the little virgin girls, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, as a plunder for yourselves. You shall eat the spoil of your enemies.
Cannot come up with something new? Can you explain me this: "Allah MAKES some people sin. He will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy in this world, and in the Hereafter an awful doom." 5:41. Some god you got there...
8:17 "Ye (Muslims) slew them not, but Allah slew them. And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower." Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing.
Wonder your god did not do the work for his Muslims when Islamic nations ganged Israel. 5 against 1. Indeed a catastrophe! (النكبة, al-Nakba) But then again, maybe not. Not JUST catastrophe but humiliation and averment of a FALSE god. Who need some brains here?
Contrary to what the Muslim polemicists claim, the Qur'an or Muhammad approved of the copy of the Scriptures during his time (in the Seventh Century); admonishing people to believe it (Surah 2:136; 3:184; 4:47, 136; 29:46; 42:13); to consult it (Surah 4:26; 5:77; 10:94; 16:43; 21:7) and not to hide it (Surah 3:187) because it is the foundation of faith (Surah 2:113; 3:93; 5:68).
That, it is to be followed (Surah 6:155) because it is from God (Surah 6:89; 41:45; 11:110) by inspiration (Surah 16:43) and it is settled in heaven (Surah 21:105 cf. 85:21-22; 4:163). That God is its protector (Surah 17:2) from the corruption of its message (Surah 15:9) therefore none can alter it (Surah 6:34, 115; 10:64; 48:23). "The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all." Surah 6:115.
Anyway, are you aware that even after the death of Muhammad, there was no such book as a Qur'an, it was only collated during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr then it was during the Caliphate of Uthman all the VARIANT manuscripts were burned. So, how can Muslims prove that the words of "given" to Muhammad was actually preserved? Sure it can be memorized but even the "Qurra" (those who memorized the entire Qur'an) and the Shi'ites opposed the Uthmanic Recension!
Jesus asked her to fuck off..he said that he came for jews and that bread meant for jews should not be thrown to DOGS. (Mark 7:26, Matthew 15:22).
Christains says afterall he cured her (as Bible claims)....however, only after making her realise that her (a native woman) status in his eye is that of a dog.
It is not the question whether Jesus used to perform witchery and sroccery..or he could cure her or not...
The main point is legitimisation of RACISM in Bible
Jesus CHRist is the paragon of GOd's impeccable purity. THE beiginning and end of holiness and completely without sin. In comparison to him you are a dog and so am I and so was she. That is not the point. SHe was being tested. SHe had seen Jesus' healing power and knew that HE is the Son of God. SHe knew he alone cpi;d heal her daughter. SHe also knew someting else. She kne WHen JEsus said no she answered him hunbly SHe diregarded his words because she knew the man.
TO continue. She knew that Jesus was good. SHE had seen him heal all who came to him. So she believed in his goodness despite his word. She believed in his goodness, even though he said "no". Because she believed in his goodness, he stopped to admire her. He said, "Woman, you have great faith. Be it done to you as you believed." Jesus is the son of Abraham, through whom GOd said all the nations of the earth are blessed. Jesus is the blessing. God always meant to save the world, He is good.
ok boys and girls here is our bible quote for the day!
Taking captive, killing and raping natives in Bible (Deut 20:13-14):
And when the lord thy god has delivered your enemies into your hands, you shall KILL every male thereof with the edge of the sword.
Take the women, and the little virgin girls, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, as a plunder for yourselves. You shall eat the spoil of your enemies.
Tabari IX:113 "Allah permits you to SHUTthem in separate rooms and to BEAT them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are LIKE DOMESTIC ANIMALS and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the ENJOYMENT of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."
"A Woman may be likened to a sheep—even a cow or a camel—FOR ALL ARE RIDDEN. (Tafsir al-Qurtubi vol.15, p.172)
Don't fool yourself. Where are women stoned to death, summarily executed, flogged, killed, in the name of religion today? Islamic countries. Are you so blind to see that? Wake up. Your accusations just falls back on your face.
The Taliban implementing Biblical commands? This is ridiculous. LOL! This is what Muslims do TODAY, not just Talibans. Ex: Qatar, Iran, Nigeria, all in the name of Sharia.
Stoning women for adultery is a part of Islam because it is based on the example set by Muhammad, who ordered it done on many occasions. See:
Bukhari (6:60:79)
Muslim (17:4196)
Muslim (17:4206)
Muslim (17:4209)
Muhammad also said that it was one of three crimes for which a person should be killed:
Let me clarify the issue: You believed Jesus is a prophet. Jesus has had followers/apostles, hence, these men must be righteous. Jesus told them he would die. They witnessed the death of Jesus and KNEW he was killed; it was very true to them. Yet all the while, according to you, it was a FARCE, carried by Allah! And they had NO idea. These GOOD people were deceived!
Can I get plainer than this?
Can we even make any sense out of this?
Answer this before we tackle the issue of apostasy.
1) Everyone has to die....Jesus also....but he died later as natural death.
2) None of the "so called apostles" were present at cucifixition site......ALL had run away
3) So any accounts given in Bible can not be considered as PROOF
4) There are CONTRADICTIONS in accounts of his death---and resurrection story etc......if these accounts were written by WITNESSES...........then there should not have been any condradiction.
2) They were there, standing from afar. (Luke 23:49}
3) invalid argument--moot and academic
4) These are just ALLEGED contradictions. The Koran has GLARING contradictions.
Anyway, you keep evading the issue: If Jesus is Allah's prophet, then Jesus had followers, were they deceived too? Just answer YES or NO. Is that so difficult to do?
1) Onus is on you to prove me otherwise...and not on me....its you claim the divinity of jesus....so prove from history that he ever existed an prove his divinnity.
2) If they were AFAR....how could one be sure ..if the crucified person was same as jesus
3) If acconts given are contradictory then these accounts hold no water.
4) refer above.....and in next mail I will provide CONTRADICTIONS in the account of so called witness to rubbish the Bible
At last my dear lMuslim I want to point out to you that Islam has no sacrifice for sin. You have no blood that will take away sin. Of course Mohammad cannot help you. He is so steeped in sin, lust, death and nlies that he cannot show you the way. It is like going to a devil to help you get to Heaven. Only Jesus the sinless man can help you-whose birth was prophesied 600 years before by Isaiah, whose birth from a virgin was prophesied, whose death on the cross was prophesied,.Jesus is God.
You are right. If you cannot use the Holy Bible and argue logically, the only thing left fo you is to swear and create other books to say what you want . There is no secret gospel of Mark. The gospel that revels the wword of GOd is in the Scriptures. All "gospels are not GOd's word". ONly those in the Bible. Jesus loves you. Love is stronger than hate and all the money you have in the world will not equal love in value. God is Love. Allah is not love and is not God. I am sorry for your sadness.
Dear Lionheart. I point out to you that Num 31 does not refer to a reward in Heaven 32,000 virgin girls were saved from slaughter yet taken and raped. This was the state of man without blood. ONly the blood of goats and bulls could cover sin. THere was no blood to re move the sin of this tribe that had sinned against God. THerefore they wer killed without mercy. Now the blood which saves must be pure. Only a man's blood can redeem the sin of humanity.. Jesus is that man. God has a Son.
Matt 10:34 sound literal to you? Did Jesus really carry a literal sword to cause division? Did Jesus actually kill anyone, raided cities, lead armies? No. How about Muhammad? Your shortcomings and fallacies clearly manifests when it comes to understanding the Holy Scriptures. You are blinded by your own shallow interpretation, you blaspheme the Biblical God, the Bible,and Jesus, that you Muslims, even claim to respect and believe. You are full of hatred and anger... what has Islam done to you?
1) Jesus WAS NOT in the poition of power (such as king) so he could not carry out war/violence. The sole criteria of judging Jesus will be based on his SPEECHES and TEACHING and his willingness to CONDEMN Violence.
2) A man (Jesus) who threatened to KILL BABIES (Rev 2:23) just because their mother would not follow him.can be called Hitler but not a peaceful man.
You keep on referring to passages that ancient Israel used to follow. That is no longer the case. Even "nominal Christians" don't point to these verses to carry out atrocities. These crimes are done because of nationalism, not religious zeal. Can you say the same with Islam? Atrocities done in the name of Christ is a direct CONTRADICTION to the teachings of Jesus. Atrocities done in the name of Islam is a direct OBEDIENCE to the teachings of Muhammad.
Filthy god of Bible says in Bible (1Sameuel 15:3):
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, CHILDREN AND INFANTS, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys. (1 Samuel 15:3)
My questions to all Christians...who is this genocidal maniac god of Bible:
The crimes of the Amalekites cried out to GOd. THey killed their own children,raped women and took slaves and raped them too. They killed all the animals to show that the AMALEKITEs WERE NOT BEING KILLED FOR THEIR WEALTH. GOD DESPISED THEIR WEALTH, they were killed because they were guilty and there was no blood to take away their sins. The blood must be innocent to take away the sins of others. The offering must be pure to take away sin. Jesus blood is the only blood that saves. He loves you.
TAKE NATIVE WOMEN AS SEX SLAVE AND RAPE THEM(DEUT 21:12, DEUT 20:14 and NUM 31:18)
MURDER INNOCENT BABIES (1 Samuel 15:3)
Now I can undersatnd why were Aborigines, Maoris and Red Indians etc were murdered, their land stolen and children raped...European were following the teaching of Mr Jesus and Bible.
"Mehrab (Mosque) means the place of war... of fighting. Out of the mehrabs, wars should proceed. Just as all the wars of Islam proceeded out of the mehrabs. The prophet had sword to kill people. Our Holy Imams were quite militants. All of them were warriors. They used to wield swords. They used to kill people. We need a Caliph who would chop hands, cut throats, stone people. In the same way that the messenger of Allâh used to chop hands, cut throats, and stone people." 1981 A. Khomeini
. Because lying affects your soul,,it affects your health as well.The reason man gets sick and dies is sin. Lying is a sin. You deliberately lie to win an argument , but harm your mind, your health and your soul. Do not do this my friend. It also affects you mind. The Bible writes that those who deceive are also deceived. It is a spiritual law. You will be set free by the truth Be possessed completely by the truth. Jesus said I am the Way, the Truth and the Light.. God's word is Truth.
You say no imam was ever in a position of power. My friend you for get the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, despot of Iran. He wrote that a man could get sexual pleasure from a chilas young as one year old. This is digusting to most of the world but this imam who ruled Iran in the 1980s wrote this. Hepossessed political power and ordered the deaths of many people. If we read and keep our minds open we will learn Now Jesus said that real power is for a man to serve his neighbor. and do good.
I want to say this clearly. THe Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini despot of IRan nwrote that a man could under Islam, get sexual pleasure from a child as young as one year old. This is disgusting but it is true. What are we to do with this truth. We know that God does not permit this outrage but the imam said it is so. What will you do? You could pretend dthat Christians do this but it does not help you fight the filth of Islam. Christianity does not allow this outrage and would never call it holy.
If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.- 1 John 4:20-21
Do you ;ove me dear one? If you do not, you also do not love God. That is the whole truth. Bless you.
Mr Jesus was a racist (Matthew 15:26), genocidal maniac (Deut 20:13-17), a pedophile (NUM 31:17-35), who condoned torturing of slaves (Exodus 21:21), butchering native babies (1Samuel 15:3), stealing land of native people (Deut 8:7-9), terrorizing innocent people (Joshua11:40), raping the captive women (Deut 21:11-13.
Note: Some of the above crimes were committed by Mr YAHWEH. Since father and son are same, above crime are deemed to have been committed by Mr Jesus
You're manner of speech reveals much of your religiousity, thank you. I'm not surprised. You're Muslim after all, "and out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks." FACT: Muslims do most of the riots and killings after leaving the mosques, Muslim clerics issues death fatwas, suicide bombers are deeply religious, Shariah had been responsible for the most barbaric of deaths and executions in the name of religion in the 21st century.
Funny you quoted Rev 2:23.Revelations is clearly a book of symbols and the "woman" mentioned is not a literal woman, hence her children would be her followers, not "babies" as you imply. As to explaining to you what they represent could be an exercise in futility based on your line of reasoning. FACT: Christians DON'T kill people and say it's what Jesus taught. Muslims, on the other hand, happily do, and points to the Koran and Mohammad. Even YOU acknowledge killing in the name of Islam.
Your bloody foot has no intelligence. You must think. The phrase" children of democracy" doesn,t mean that democracy is a person who has children. I t refers to the followers of democracy. A son of Islam refers to a follower of Islam and does not mean Islam is a person, isn,t that right? If we are interested in truth we must have a clear mind.Here, the children refered to means followers. Jesus, thank you for loving this one and dying for him so that he could be forgiven.You rose from the dead..
Direct from SATANIC book Bible (REFER DEUT20:13-14):
[13] And when the LORD thy God has delivered your enemies into your hands, you shall KILL every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
[14] Take the women, and the little virgin girls, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, as a plunder for yourselves. You shall eat the spoil of your enemies.
My question to all christains..who is this genocidal maniac god of bible?
I know you sya this to avoid answering the clear teaching of Mohammad to rape kill and destroy all opponenets of Islam THis is not the teaching of JEsus or of Judaism. REalize that these commmands are to a specific tribe to kill their enemies because their sins have polluted the earth and cry out to GOd. The tribe to be destroyed was violent and killed their own children. There was no sacrifice allowing them to be forgiven. Jesus is that sacrifice. Innocent blood is the payment for sin.
you must answer the truth. Mohammad raped children killed and maimed and destroyed and cursed his followers to do the same. This is why Muslims rape and kill today. When you are confronted you run by complaining about Jesus who is sinless. Why do you admire the terrorist rapist killer Mohammad ? .
It is truly worshipping Satan. Think my frind. We must go where the truth leads us .Holy Spirit, please guide this man who wants to have courage like a lion.. In Jesus name I pray. Love your enemies.
The Greek word kol′pos (Joh 13:23) is used in a manner very similar to the usage of breast, although it often has reference to the fold in the upper part of the robe, rather than to the breast itself. In the custom of reclining at meals, the one in front of the bosom of another was in a position of intimacy with him, generally the favored position. Jesus employed this in illustrating Lazarus as being in the bosom position of Abraham, signifying favor with God. (Lu 16:22, 23)
ALI, YOU KNOW IT, TOO WELL THAT
ALL MUSLIMS LIE, IT GOES WITH THEIR
RELIGION, ISLAM: BORN A MUSLIM, BORN A LIAR,
IT´S THE SAME THING !
EVERYTIME A "GOOD" MUSLIM LIES, MOHAMMED
SMILES IN HELL, DOWN BELOW.
HE WAS ESPECIALLY HAPPY WITH YASSER ARAFAT !
CRUSADERPIGGYBOY 7 months ago
The Koran is FULL of Mohammedian Laws.
"KILL the infidels,apostates,Christians & the Jews!"
is A COMMAND, A LAW, .
"LIE, to the infidels,apostates,Christians & to the Jews!"
Is a Mohammedian Law !
Name-calling & trying to put people down,
Muslims are adepts at this Shitty Attitude.
Yasser Arafat was Adept at following the Muslim-Lying-Law,
in fact he was a CHRONIC LIAR. He was so “GOOD” at lying,
that he didn´t even know he was lying !
CRUSADERPIGGYBOY 7 months ago
lisen im not follwoing a book that tells u drink alcohol for worrys and says jesus was tempted by the devil people are getting medicne from the quran ill prove it see my videos on youtube ZAID GHAZZWI
kassem05 1 year ago
This Egyptian priest is a great gift from God to the Muslim people. Many God the Father bless his labor, and grant him many spiritual children to the glory of the Father and the Son.
Sojourneer 1 year ago
one million and quarter egyptian Copts convert to Islam
/watch?v=dyHhpXu-qqY
bozzeed 1 year ago
The man has a well-forged arguement. Thank God I'm a Christian. Hooray Crusading! =D
Dictator300 1 year ago
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Why we marvel of Zakaria Boutros's lies on Islam! if he also distorts the bible!(english sub)
/watch?v=4fZqw93UBM8
believergod3 1 year ago
As well as Zakaria Boutros rape of a child in the Church of St "Abram" in Brighton, England
Did you think that Jesus peace be upon him agree to adultery and sodomy and rape? I do not think peace be upon him was one of the best and purest men who we know him in the world , after all this you can trust in the words of men like this?
Islamtruth333 1 year ago 2
@Islamtruth333 What is this? Attacking the messenger instead of disputing his arguments? Any evil man can speak of the truth and that wouldn't make it false. The message is NOT always dependent on the messenger.
rockmaster333 1 year ago
comment on the message- not the messenger!
idahocharley 1 year ago
This guy is The best solution to the problems posed by Islam/Muslims. I say screw it expose Islam so it can be reformed or else they will do something so stupid sooner or later that they are gonna get nuked either by Isreal, Russia, China, India or even USA if they pull another 9/11. Good job sir keep up the good work but do it fast before they kill you - I know they go after all opstates. Muslims bashing this guy u have no right before u study what he mentioned-no room for just bitter liars
jaxlnc 1 year ago
he's making fun of the mentality of the Christians and take advantage of their ignorance of Islam , who does not believe me can search by himself in the sources which he says its name and then you will discover how much he malicious and LIAR this sick mind
believergod3 1 year ago
@believergod3 you are just making fun of your own cheap and stupid mentality. How could you bash him without checking the sources he gave you. A big tell tell sign is when muslims run out of even lame excuses (not even logical rebuttles) all they do is claim insults on others without even mentioning the subject mater or proof presented to them. What pathetic loosers!!!
jaxlnc 1 year ago
Zakaria Boutros is a big LIAR and despicable and the Egyptian Church was stripped him of his office because of his bad morals !!! also he implicated of many moral crimes and he is prohibited from entering Egypt ,he is try to making sectarianism sedition between Muslims and Christians this despicable monkey ,
believergod3 1 year ago
@believergod3 Nope! u r bitter and hence wrong! Zakaria Boutros is a big EXPOSER of true Islam and the Egyptian Church is scared of muslims for its security thats why they have removed him and prohibited him from entering Egypt because they want to distance themselves from him to stay safe from angry violent muslims. Not Christians but these violent muslims will attack Christians and churches like the've done in the past in other muslim countries. Truth causes muslims to be violent- its typical!
jaxlnc 1 year ago
@jaxlnc
Everyone can making sure by himself from the scandals of this priest, who the history did not know more liar, deceit and malignancy than him ! is a disgrace for all Christians search anyone who wants on the Internet, newspapers and news broadcasts and you will find a lot of scandals in Egypt and abroad ! and if you are you know about these facts but defended him then i will consider you does not deserve respect ! a Muslim never lies ! all what I said it correctly and
believergod3 1 year ago
@jaxlnc
check your information before you rushing because of your patient hatred of Muslims and defended for a liar and the biggest in history fraudYou say that the Egyptian church isolation from office for fear of violence of Muslims!!! What you say about what the West has also recognized for his behavior deviant????he practiced adultery with a Coptic girl from Melbourne – Australia. Moreover he converted the St Abraam Church in Briton – UK into a horehouse!
believergod3 1 year ago
@jaxlnc He used to receive money from adulteress and drunken people against allowing them to practice their sinful deeds inside the church. ALSO FATHER Bishawi, deputy of Pope Shenouda III and bishop of Damietta and Kafr Al-Sheikh, said that Zakaria Botros had kicked one of Copts using his feet and caused a permanent physical disability for him just because he refused to practice homosexuality with him in his office at the Church of Briton – UK!
see this also
alukah.net/Culture/0/7619/
believergod3 1 year ago
@believergod3 I don't expect any less lies from you guys trying to discredit any one who exposes Islam/Muslims for what they really are! Keep lying about every single person who says anything you don't like people can tell your lies when you don't address the things he mentioned at all and simply just go after the person digging dirt on them and then failing to come up with any dirt you then fabricate lying or bogus counter videos
jaxlnc 1 year ago
@jaxlnc
celltechlars and jaxlnc, Praise be to God that ye met here I tired to respond to each of you individually , i will answering you both together , first celltechlars , what is the problem and funny that my words are the same thing? And it will be the same in A million videos too because This the truth , but also I will going to create a video ad hoc basis of this argument is supported with documents reveal the truth about this pastor pervert Pedophileto and homosexual in all the world!
believergod3 1 year ago
@believergod3 SAVE IT DUDE! you are going to produce documents that are forged by muslims to discredit this guy - yeah nice try kido! You are just trying to avoid the things he said in the video because you have no proof against that-thats why you are going after the guy. Typical muslim looser behavior "CAN"T ARGUE THE MESSAGE THEN LETS KILL THE MESSANGER". Muslims often try to prevent others from thinking about the message by trying to spread lies about the messanger. WE know all your tactics!
jaxlnc 1 year ago 9
@believergod3 Hahahaha....lol....lolzz
Are you braying these same lame "truths" here as well? I honoured your claims, and searched hard and deep, only to tell you here and now, you're not only brainwashed, you are brain dead. Botros is just fine, and you have no honour. Only shame. How pathetic of you to think that a slandering sack of shit like you can somehow be a man of God. pathetic. You shame yourself, your parents, and Islam at large. You cowardly good for fuck all pretent muslim looser.
celltechlars 1 year ago
@celltechlars
what is your opinion of the pastor who changing the Bible and be lie of God to win the battle delusional, even if without any honor ? Is it excluded him that he distorts the Koran and maligned the Messenger of Allah ? Watch this video
to see how much he lying and sly and he's making fun of the mentality of the Christians like you and take advantage of their ignorance of Islam
/watch?v=YLr_xt8GF4I
is evil like this can be a trusty source about what he said?
i don't think this
believergod3 1 year ago
Brother Butros is truly a great man of God and doing so much to reach muslims for Christ! PLEASE GOD BLESS BROTHER BUTROS!
zinpgh 1 year ago
@urheadonastick
oh boy, why are u believe in bullshit religion in the first place`?
jesus, muhammed...fuck all these
Serpico261 1 year ago
Seen the film "The Stoning of Soraya M."? Gives a good account of what Islam is up to now... unlike Lionheart's peristence in placing blame to events and practices no longer practiced by Jews and Christians today. And yet he talks about "projecting other religions' shortcomings to Islam..." Whew!
rockmaster333 1 year ago 3
We've seen an inordinate number of Muslim attempts at stifling free speech. We've seen Muslim nations attempting to limit free speech through the UN. We've seen news crews getting attacked. Again. And again. We've seen Muslims demanding the removal of peaceful messages. We've seen Muslims attacking cartoonists and committing arson against their homes. We've seen Muslims threatening cartoonists. We've seen Muslims attempting to kill cartoo
rockmaster333 1 year ago
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rockmaster333 1 year ago
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war." 9:5
allah is surely not God.
MegaDwell 1 year ago
Thousands of Muslims protesting a newspaper article they say was critical of Islam clashed with police in southern India, leaving at least two people dead and dozens injured, police said on Tuesday.
Nearly 3,000 Muslims took to the streets after a newspaper published an article by controversial Bangladesh writer Taslima Nasrin challenging the Islamic tradition of wearing veils as an infringement on women's freedom.
Nasrin left Bangladesh in 1994 after Islamic extremists threatened to kill her.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
@rockmaster333
1 Apr 2010 ... Pope Benedict cannot be called to testify at any sex abuse trial because he has immunity as a head of state, a top Vatican legal official claims
Good on you Pope...
Keep on RAPING---ALTAR Boys young bottom
lionheart1965 1 year ago
@lionheart1965 The Pope doesn't represent Christ; and pedophilia is a sin. They will get punished in due time as they are all accountable to God. The Catholic Church doesn't even represent the true Christianity by Biblical standards.
rockmaster333 1 year ago
@rockmaster333
If Catholic church does not represent TRUE Christianity--------then 1.5 billion Christians are LOST SOULS?
Which church does represent TRUE Christianity?
lionheart1965 1 year ago
@rockmaster333
1) Many Chrsitains were involved in a VIOLENT PROTEST against circulation of a photo in which Jesus was shown holding BEER BOTTLE and a CIGERETTE.
2) Nearly 5000 VIOLENT Christians clashed with police in Mizoram India, leaving at least three people dead and dozens injured
3) Christian extremists threatened to BURN BOOKS depicting Jesus in such a manner
lionheart1965 1 year ago
@lionheart1965 Taliking about respect...you make me laught boy. You muslims dont have whatsoever respect for non-muslims. You are also one example of disrespect. You called Jesus a gay. where is your respect. You muslims are obsessed by hate and anger. Hate and anger are from the devil, not from God. Jesus is the son of God, who is one with God, individable. Jesus is also your God even though you make jokes with him. Jesus is love, God is love. The devil is hate.
ggrean 1 year ago
@ggrean
We did not start abusing KKKChristianity---------but will give you taste of your own medicine...
Now that rascal old NAZI-RATzinger and his followers will realise that if they abuse Mohammad ---then we will tear "Ms Mary;s panties"
That is what they deserve
lionheart1965 1 year ago
@lionheart1965 My friend, I think that you start long ago abusing Christianity, but saying that Jesus is a prophet and muslim. It is the same as to say that Mohamed is a boyfriend of Elton John. You always call christians and jews non-believers. THIS IS DISRESPECT.
ggrean 1 year ago
@ggrean speak the truth, and dust your feet and walk... stay connected to jesus.. and remove your self from politics.. heal the sick, raise the dead and preach the truth.. that's jesus commandment..
nigger230 1 year ago
@lionheart1965 I think you are a bit confused. I have heart from many muslims that you (muslims) love Jesus, but you called him gay. So expalin please? I also know many muslim woman in turkey for example who pray to Maria, the mother of Jesus. Here you are making jokes of her. Explain again?
ggrean 1 year ago
@lionheart1965 The problem with you my friend is that you follow teaching which at are not God's teachings. That is why you are so much hateful. You can make as many jokes over Jesus as you want. You dont heart me. I am orthodox Christian and I love Jesus. You can say whatever you want over him. It is your choice.
ggrean 1 year ago
@ggrean
1) I have no problem with Christianity---------they have right to believe in---what they want to believe in.
2) If someone wants to believe in a CAT as son of god-----let him believe what he wants.
3) However, if Christians attacks Islam (like Zakaria)---then I will respond in kind---in a same way ---NO APOLOGY
it is up to Christians--whether they want a respectful debate or zakaria style debate
lionheart1965 1 year ago
@lionheart1965 Muslims have a problem with everyone NOT believing in Islam, fair and simple. That's why the world is divided from a Muslim's POV: Dar as-Salam (literally house/abode of Islam) and Dar al-Harb (house of war, referring to those countries where the Muslim law is not in force). A traditional Arabic saying attributed to Muhammad goes: "Unbelief is one community", or in other words, "infidels are of one nation".
rockmaster333 1 year ago
@rockmaster333
Stop projecting your own religion's shortcomings onto Muslims.
Bible taught violence (Deut 20:13-17) and rape (NUM31:17-35) and terror (Joshua 10:28- 43) half a millenia before mohammed was even BORN!.
KKKristians and Zio-Nazis (pity on them) are so deluded that they don't know (or admit) their own history
lionheart1965 1 year ago
@lionheart1965 I am proud to be orthodox Christian, but if I WERE muslim I would be ashaimed...just because of people like you. You are full of hate and anger, but this is not what God teach us. Jesus, the son of God who is one with God, teach us to love each other.
ggrean 1 year ago
@ggrean
You can speak on behalf of yourself-------but not behalf of me. I am proud of that for each of Zakaria's FILTH---I can answer from his own book "Bible"----and in same language, which he understands---------I have challenged Zakaria for have a debate--------he has NOT EVEN been able to answer my simple questions--
lionheart1965 1 year ago
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@lionheart1965 My friend you didnt answer my question. So I am repeating it: I know from muslims that you (muslims) love Jesus. If you are muslim why are you calling him gay? Expalin please? I also know many muslim woman in turkey for example who pray to Maria, the holy mother of Jesus. Here you are making jokes of her. Explain again?
ggrean 1 year ago
@lionheart1965 My friend when you make jokes with Jesus, you make jokes with God. Do you realize that? Even if you are muslim (as you say) you still cannot make jokes with him, becuase I know that you muslims love and respect Jesus. The same holds for the holy mother of God, Maria. You make jokes of her, but i know that muslim women in turkey pray to her. ???? So you are not christian, not muslim?????
ggrean 1 year ago
@lionheart1965 Just think for yourself...which book is more likely to be the word of God? The book that teaches us to love our friends and enemies, or the book that teaches us to kill jews...God wants us to love each other and live in harmony. God doesnt want us to kill each other. Why would he? He is powerful enough to kill if he wants, he doesnt need us for that job. Only God can create lifes and take lifes. God is great and merciful and loving. Read the bible and judge for yourself...
ggrean 1 year ago
Violence against non-belivers in Bible:
1. killing of million natives (Deut 20:17)
2. Use captive woman as SEX SLAVES (Deut 20:14, Deut 21:10)
3. Promoted RACSIM by calling native woman as DOG (Matthews 15:26)
4. torture of SALVES (Exodus 21:21)
5. BUTCHERING of innocnent native BABIES (1Samuel 15:3)
6. beheading those who worship other gods (ref Numbers 25:3,4)
7. And best of all, made sure no one leaves his religion by imposing death sentence on apostates (Ex 32:27-29)
lionheart1965 1 year ago
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@lionheart1965 My friend, you still keep avoiding my previous reaction. So i am reaping it: ''When you make jokes with Jesus, you make jokes with God. Do you realize that? Even if you are muslim (as you say) you still cannot make jokes with him, becuase I know that you muslims love and respect Jesus (as one of your prophets). The same holds for the holy mother of God, Maria. You make jokes of her, but i know that muslim women in turkey pray to her. ???? Explain please.
ggrean 1 year ago
@lionheart1965 Same old lines... I have answered these claims in my previous posts and here you are again. Pathetic...
rockmaster333 1 year ago
@rockmaster333
ok boys and girls here is our bible quote for the day!
Taking captive, killing and raping natives in Bible (Deut 20:13-14):
And when the lord thy god has delivered your enemies into your hands, you shall KILL every male thereof with the edge of the sword.
Take the women, and the little virgin girls, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, as a plunder for yourselves. You shall eat the spoil of your enemies.
lionheart1965 1 year ago
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Again you continue lying and hold onto lies and blasphemies. No "NAKED youth" in the verse. Your lies are once again made manifest
Funny thing is, you even consider Jesus your prophet yet continue to defame and malign him.
Anyway, where is your defense on the burnt Saudi girls and "Allah the Deceiver" issue?
rockmaster333 2 years ago
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who are u to translate the quran u are nobody just a disbeleiver
makar means plan and its walahu kheirulmakirin
seekouttruth 2 years ago
Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.
One witness said 3 policemen "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya".
The Saudi Gazette quoted that the police had stopped men who tried to help the girls and warned "it is a sinful to approach them".
I would like to hear your comment on this.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Another PEDOPHILE racket....lead by CHURCH is exposed...
as usual all BOY MOLESTERS...are again Christian priests
google it you will get the result
lionheart1965 2 years ago
YOUR GOD IS A DECEIVER
"...and [they] deceived and Allah deceived and Allah is the best of deceivers" - Sura 3:54 Sura 3:54 Arabic: Wa Makaru wa makara Allah wa Allah Amkaru al Makireen. Likewise the phrase of Allah "being the best deceiver" (kheir ol makarein) is also used of Allah in Suras 8:30 and 10:21. Sura 10:21 says Allah is the fastest in planning/deceit Other references to the plotting/deceit/scheming of Allah are Sura 7:99; 27:50; 13:42; 14:46; 43:79; 86:15f.; 7:100; 4:142
rockmaster333 2 years ago
For your kind information,
god of Bible is a DECEIVER
Refer Jeremiah 20:7
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Jer 20:7—In what way did God use his strength against Jeremiah and fool him? Because of facing indifference, rejection, and persecution when declaring Gods judgments, Jeremiah might have felt that he did not have the strength to continue. However, God used his strength against such inclinations, empowering Jeremiah to continue. God thus fooled Jeremiah by using him to accomplish what the prophet himself thought he could not do. God cannot lie. (Titus 1:2) You cannot say the same to Allah.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Jer 20:7,
YOUr alleged god DECEIEVED a prophet (Mr Jeremiah)!!!
End of the story
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Again, you flaunt your narrow-mindedness. Your God admits he's the greatest deceiver of them all and you turn a blind eye. Deceived...
rockmaster333 2 years ago
There is a difference
Allah promises to deceive BAD people
god of Bible DECEIVES GOOD people..including prophets (Jer 20:7)......what RASCAL god of Bible who DECEIVES good people
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Allah deceive BAD people only?Well, isn't Jesus one of his prophets? So, Jesus' followers and apostles must be GOOD, yet in Quran, 4:157-158 "That they said (in boast), We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah—but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not—nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself...
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Why do Allah have to DECEIVE these people who are supposedly following one of his prophet? What good would it bring? Is he playing around with these people?
I'm still waiting for your comment on the burnt Saudi girls...
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Allah DID NOT DECEIVE good people
Allah will DECEIVE evil people
While alleged god of Bible deceives his own prophets (Jer 20:7)
YOu have been deceived by Satan to worship Jesus...this is satan who is deceiving you
lionheart1965 2 years ago
1) Where did Allah decive Jesus?
2) infact..thhose who wanted to crucify him....they were deceived
3) Those who dig the trap for others...Allah makes them to fall those evil people in same trap.
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Christ's followers believed he was impaled/crucified. So, they were deceived? By whom? According to Quran, by Allah. According to you, by Satan. Hmmm...
It doesn't matter if you're a Shia or a Sunni; fact is you're a Muslim following Mohammed and the Quran is full of abrogations.
Any words on the burnt girls? You're so silent on this, eh?
rockmaster333 2 years ago
1) You must be reading Bible.....and getting deluded by Satan.
2) Allah saved Jesus by deluding those who wanted to kill him
3) 4:157-158 is very clear that ALLAH deluded EVIL people...who wanted to kill Jesus
If despite clear sign from Quran...you are still deluded...then you are possessed by SATANIC SPIRIT
May Allah save you from SATANIC SPIRIT
I will pray for you
lionheart1965 2 years ago
4:157 (translation by Asad)
and their boast, "Behold, we have slain the Christ Jesus, son of Mary, [who claimed to be] an apostle of God!" However, they did not slay him, and neither did they crucify him, but it only seemed to them [as if it had been] so; and, verily, those who hold conflicting views thereon are indeed confused, having no [real] knowledge thereof, and following mere conjecture. For, of a certainty, they did not slay him
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Then why didn't Jesus' apostles know the "truth?" They knew Jesus died there. We're not talking about Jesus' enemies here, but his followers. Give me an answer to this.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
1) How do you know that these "so called apostles" knew the truth...
Many ran away leaving him alone to get arrested....
There is NO HISTORICAL evidence ...that the person who was crucified was REAL Jesus....or not
As such we know that various accounts given by Luke, Mark, Matthew and John are CONTRADICTORY....and can not be considered REALIABLE
(if you want i will provide more details about contradictio)
lionheart1965 2 years ago
who are u to translate the quran u are nobody just a disbeleiver
makar means plan and its walahu kheirulmakirin
seekouttruth 2 years ago
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who are u to translate the quran u are nobody just a disbeleiver
makar means plan and its walahu kheirulmakirin
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who are u to translate the quran u are nobody just a disbeleiver
makar means plan and its walahu kheirulmakirin
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Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234: Narrated Abu Qilaba: Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine).
Very nice...!
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Your utter lack of discernment is unequalled.
Anyway, lets take a quick glance of FACTS: Mohammad/Jesus
Married a GIRL? Yes/No
Killed people? Yes/No
Had Slaves? Yes/NO
Preached Killings? Yes/NO
Attacked caravans/cities? Yes/NO Shall I add more? shall I add more? These are FACTS, and I can't same the same with your own twisted interpretation of the Bible.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Mohammad (pbuh) married WOMAN.
Jesus LOVED Boys (John 13:23)
Mohammad (pbuh) forbade killing of innocents
Jesus contemplate butchering of CHILDREN (Rev 2:23)
Islam gave right to slave that he can become king.
Christianity allowed TORTURE of slave (Exodus 21:20)
Jesus condoned killing of innocent babies (1Samuel 15:3)
Jesus condoned LOOTING of Carvan..and plundering (Deut 20:13-14)
Jesus considered OT as word of god so he condoned all crimes
Shall I add more?
lionheart1965 2 years ago
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rockmaster333 2 years ago
To the Jews, dogs were unclean. So by alluding to Gentiles as "little dogs", was Jesus showing prejudice? No, for he had just mentioned his special commission from God to care for the lost sheep of Israel. Moreover, by likening non-Jews to little dogs, not WILD dogs, He softened the comparison. Of course what he said tested the woman. Humbly, though determined to overcome this objection, she tactfully replied. Impressed with the womans faith, he healed her daughter immediately.—Mat 15:22-28.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
The land of Canaan was saturated with detestable practices of idolatry, immorality, and bloodshed. The Canaanite religion was extraordinarily base and degraded, their sacred poles evidently being phallic symbols, and many of the rites at their high places involving gross sexual excesses and depravity. (Ex 23:24; 34:12, 13; Nu 33:52; De 7:5)
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Incest, sodomy, and bestiality were part of the way of the land of Canaan that made the land unclean and for which error it was due to vomit its inhabitants out. (Le 18:2-25) Magic, spellbinding, spiritism, and sacrifice of their children by fire were also among the Canaanites detestable practices.—De 18:9-12. Is this not reason enough for judgment?
rockmaster333 2 years ago
The issue involved is that of whether Gods sovereignty over the earth and its inhabitants is acknowledged or not. He had deeded over the right of tenure of Canaan to the seed of Abraham, by an oath-bound covenant. (Ge 12:5-7 ) But more than a mere eviction was purposed. His right to act as Judge of all the earth and to decree the sentence of capital punishment upon those found meriting it, his right to implement and enforce the execution of such decree, was also involved.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
If a society indulge in sxeual perverion (such as HOMOSEXUALITY and INCEST)..then we ought to kill their BABIES..
Then we must admit that Osama Bin Laden had RIGHT to kill Newyorkers...and people of US....including their babies..
because US citizens indulge in all of these sexual e xcesses.
But Osama bin laden is more humane.than god of bible....he did not kill US babies!!!..
Hmm
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Butchering of BABIES can not be justified...
Bible and its FILTHY god must be condemned for killing babies!..
Jews also used to sacrifice humans (ref Lev 27:28-29, Judge 11:29-40)..
Bible admits that Jews screw neighbour's wife, defile their daughter in laws and lewdly defile their sisters , (Ezekiel 22:11)i
If those tribes who performed human sacrifices, their babies need to be butchered, then do we have right to butcher the Jewish babies too?
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Jesus was a KKK member:
The Question is....Why did Jesus consider Gentiles{any one whom Not from Jacob}To Be "Dogs"?
I was sent[ONLY]to the lost sheep of the house of "ISRAEL ....It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the "DOGS."Matt 15:22-28
Calling a Gentile a "Dog" was the worst insult that an Israelite Jew( true jew not Ashkinaz Fake GOY jew of today) could level at a Gentile.
Your Bible says that these very words came from the mouth of Jesus himself!
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Am I dealing with a juvenile here? How old are you, 14? 15? I only seem to get infantile replies. Instead of defending your faith and "prophet" you just post this shallow remarks and accusations . You're like one of those blind men groping an elephant, if you know what I mean. Surely, you can do better than this...
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Violence against non-belivers in Bible:
1. killing of million natives (Deut 20:17)
2. Use captive woman as SEX SLAVES (Deut 20:14, Deut 21:10)
3. Promoted RACSIM by calling native woman as DOG (Matthews 15:26)
4. torture of SALVES (Exodus 21:21)
5. BUTCHERING of innocnent native BABIES (1Samuel 15:3)
6. beheading those who worship other gods (ref Numbers 25:3,4)
7. And best of all, made sure no one leaves his religion by imposing death sentence on apostates (Ex 32:27-29)
lionheart1965 2 years ago
1. God has the right to judge and carry out execution to those meriting it. We are the "end of days" heading to the Great Tribulation that will culminate in Armageddon where God will be judgment upon all mankind. 2. Captive women were not used as sex slaves. They were taken as wives and had to undergo a period of mourning before any sexual relations take place. Let's compare this to
Hadith from Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 7-#137
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Narrated Abu al-Khudri: "We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's messenger about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection." Here, Muslims had taken female slaves, and had sex with them. Muhammad approved of this. He only admonished them not to practice coitus interruptus.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Vol. 5-#459 Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: "I entered the mosque and saw Abu Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu said, "We went out with Allah's messenger for the Ghazwa (attack upon) Banu Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
So when we intended to do coitus interruptus we said We asked (him) about it and he said "It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."How can we do coitus interruptus without asking Allah's messenger while he is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said "It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Here, the Muslims attacked the Banu Mustaliq and took slaves. The females were distributed as booty. The soldiers want to have sexual relations with the NEWLY captured slaves. They went to Muhammad and asked about coitus interruptus. He told them not to practice that, but to complete the sexual act. Related Hadith shows they didn't want to get the women pregnant becasue they wanted to sell them later on. Under Islamic law they're not allowed to sell pregnant slaves.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Jesus was NEVER racist. The Gentile woman's reaction was far from being offended, but was clearly attracted by Jesus' kind and mild tone. And didn't Jesus heal her child? Is this "kind act" racism? Now let's consider this: Ishaq:243 "I heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom."
rockmaster333 2 years ago
[9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, 'If a black man comes to you, his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'" Ishaq:144 "A rock was put on a slave's chest. Bukhari:V4B52N137 "The Prophet said, 'Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him (sadism) If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [for paradise], it will be denied.'"
rockmaster333 2 years ago
"It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah's army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent." (Arab supremacist racism) Ishaq:374
rockmaster333 2 years ago
"These were the names of Mohammed's male slaves: Yakan Abu Sharh, Aflah, Ubayd, Dhakwan, Tahman, Mirwan, Hunayn, Sanad, Fadala Yamamin, Anjasha, Al Hadi, Mad'am, Karkara, Abu Rafi', Thawban, Ab Kabsha, Salih, Rabah, Yara Nubyan, Fadila, Waqid, Mabur, Abu Waqid, Kasam, Abu 'Ayb, Abu Muwayhiba, Zayd Ibn Haritha, and also a black slave called Mahran, who was re-named (by Mohammed) to Safina (ship)."
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Mohammed's Female Slaves Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya in "Zad al-Ma'ad" continues: "These are the names of Mohammed's Female slaves: Salma Um Rafi', Maymuna daughter of Abu Asib, Maymuna daughter of Sa'd, Khadra, Radwa, Razina, Um Damira, Rayhana, Mary the Coptic, in addition to 2 other maid-slaves, one of them given to him as a present by his cousin, Zaynab, and the other one captured in a war." Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya: "Zad al-Ma'ad" Vol 1, p. 116)
rockmaster333 2 years ago
So in addition to 21 wives, by average Mohammed also owned 11 concubines and female sex slaves. It is clear for all, where Mohammed, the Quran and Allah stand on slavery, and Africans.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Rascal YAHWEH (alleged father) asks his followers to KILL native men and RAPE little native girls (Deut 20:13-14)
When the lord delivers them (natives) into your hand, PUT TO THE SWORD all the men in it.
As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as PLUNDER for yourselves.
What a lusty, rapist and Nazi lord of Bible!!!
lionheart1965 2 years ago
ok boys and girls here is our bible quote for the day!
Taking captive, killing and raping natives in Bible (Deut 20:13-14):
And when the lord thy god has delivered your enemies into your hands, you shall KILL every male thereof with the edge of the sword.
Take the women, and the little virgin girls, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, as a plunder for yourselves. You shall eat the spoil of your enemies.
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Cannot come up with something new? Can you explain me this: "Allah MAKES some people sin. He will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy in this world, and in the Hereafter an awful doom." 5:41. Some god you got there...
rockmaster333 2 years ago
8:17 "Ye (Muslims) slew them not, but Allah slew them. And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower." Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Indeed.....If invaders get killed....
the one who is defending himself.....as if God has done the work for him
Get some brain...you stupid christians
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Wonder your god did not do the work for his Muslims when Islamic nations ganged Israel. 5 against 1. Indeed a catastrophe! (النكبة, al-Nakba) But then again, maybe not. Not JUST catastrophe but humiliation and averment of a FALSE god. Who need some brains here?
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Contrary to what the Muslim polemicists claim, the Qur'an or Muhammad approved of the copy of the Scriptures during his time (in the Seventh Century); admonishing people to believe it (Surah 2:136; 3:184; 4:47, 136; 29:46; 42:13); to consult it (Surah 4:26; 5:77; 10:94; 16:43; 21:7) and not to hide it (Surah 3:187) because it is the foundation of faith (Surah 2:113; 3:93; 5:68).
rockmaster333 2 years ago
That, it is to be followed (Surah 6:155) because it is from God (Surah 6:89; 41:45; 11:110) by inspiration (Surah 16:43) and it is settled in heaven (Surah 21:105 cf. 85:21-22; 4:163). That God is its protector (Surah 17:2) from the corruption of its message (Surah 15:9) therefore none can alter it (Surah 6:34, 115; 10:64; 48:23). "The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all." Surah 6:115.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
So, it is you, in effect, who continue to contradict himself by blaspheming the Scriptures. Are you for or against your faith?
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Anyway, are you aware that even after the death of Muhammad, there was no such book as a Qur'an, it was only collated during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr then it was during the Caliphate of Uthman all the VARIANT manuscripts were burned. So, how can Muslims prove that the words of "given" to Muhammad was actually preserved? Sure it can be memorized but even the "Qurra" (those who memorized the entire Qur'an) and the Shi'ites opposed the Uthmanic Recension!
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Christians claim that Bible is word of god....
my foot!!!
Ezekiel 23:20 NIV
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
The above verse LOOKS like a filthy sentence of a PORN...not word of god!!!
lionheart1965 2 years ago
What a dickhead...like Zakaria!!!
Wonder god of Bible did not do work for his "chosen race"
Indeed a catastrophe (HOLOCAUST)
but then again..may not...Not just catastrophe but humiliation and averment of a FALSE god of Bible (Mr YAHWEH)
Who need brains here?
lionheart1965 2 years ago
7)1) Another stupid concept of Christianity: Jesus DIED to cleanse sin of Christians(Roman 4:1-25)
2) If it is so, then all pedophile priests go to HEAVEN courtsey Mr Jesus..
3) they screwed ALTAR boys in this world and will get chance to SCREW all the YOUNG BOYS in heaven too!!!
WHAT A CONCEPT...Only Christians will believe in such a stupidity
what a belief
what a priest
what a sheep
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Jesus asked her to fuck off..he said that he came for jews and that bread meant for jews should not be thrown to DOGS. (Mark 7:26, Matthew 15:22).
Christains says afterall he cured her (as Bible claims)....however, only after making her realise that her (a native woman) status in his eye is that of a dog.
It is not the question whether Jesus used to perform witchery and sroccery..or he could cure her or not...
The main point is legitimisation of RACISM in Bible
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Jesus CHRist is the paragon of GOd's impeccable purity. THE beiginning and end of holiness and completely without sin. In comparison to him you are a dog and so am I and so was she. That is not the point. SHe was being tested. SHe had seen Jesus' healing power and knew that HE is the Son of God. SHe knew he alone cpi;d heal her daughter. SHe also knew someting else. She kne WHen JEsus said no she answered him hunbly SHe diregarded his words because she knew the man.
clairstberry 2 years ago
TO continue. She knew that Jesus was good. SHE had seen him heal all who came to him. So she believed in his goodness despite his word. She believed in his goodness, even though he said "no". Because she believed in his goodness, he stopped to admire her. He said, "Woman, you have great faith. Be it done to you as you believed." Jesus is the son of Abraham, through whom GOd said all the nations of the earth are blessed. Jesus is the blessing. God always meant to save the world, He is good.
clairstberry 2 years ago
ok boys and girls here is our bible quote for the day!
Taking captive, killing and raping natives in Bible (Deut 20:13-14):
And when the lord thy god has delivered your enemies into your hands, you shall KILL every male thereof with the edge of the sword.
Take the women, and the little virgin girls, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, as a plunder for yourselves. You shall eat the spoil of your enemies.
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Tabari IX:113 "Allah permits you to SHUTthem in separate rooms and to BEAT them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are LIKE DOMESTIC ANIMALS and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the ENJOYMENT of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."
"A Woman may be likened to a sheep—even a cow or a camel—FOR ALL ARE RIDDEN. (Tafsir al-Qurtubi vol.15, p.172)
rockmaster333 2 years ago
You are quoting "Tabari"...a normal book which we shia dont believe in
If you quote...then use Quran....and not Tabari/Bukhari...these books are not acceptable to shias
It is funny to see that Biblical followers have problem in "hitting the woman" for adultery..
But not in "stoning till death" sentence recommended in Bible (Deut 22:24)
I guess we shall not "HIT" but "stone" her
Because Bible ask us to "stone" the woman till death!!
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Don't fool yourself. Where are women stoned to death, summarily executed, flogged, killed, in the name of religion today? Islamic countries. Are you so blind to see that? Wake up. Your accusations just falls back on your face.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
1) It is not the question of TODAY
2) Bible TAUGHT "STONING OF WOMAN" (Deut 22:24)
3) Why should be Taleban be blamed for implementing Biblical commands?
4) If you want to condemn...someone....then you MUST CONDEMN Bible first
lionheart1965 2 years ago
The Taliban implementing Biblical commands? This is ridiculous. LOL! This is what Muslims do TODAY, not just Talibans. Ex: Qatar, Iran, Nigeria, all in the name of Sharia.
Stoning women for adultery is a part of Islam because it is based on the example set by Muhammad, who ordered it done on many occasions. See:
Bukhari (6:60:79)
Muslim (17:4196)
Muslim (17:4206)
Muslim (17:4209)
Muhammad also said that it was one of three crimes for which a person should be killed:
Bukhari (83:37)
rockmaster333 2 years ago
1) None of the book which you are quoting are considered reliable by Shias...
2) But the question is....why should those Taleban be blamed for following BIBLICAL commands
3) It is FILTHY Bible..which commands killing of an APOSTATE (Deut 22:24)
4) I urge you that before you condemn Taleban....you MUST REJECT FILTHY BIBLE..which precahes killing of apostate
lionheart1965 2 years ago
And now the Talebans are being taught the Torah/Bible in madrassas? Come on, you're pulling my leg...
rockmaster333 2 years ago
The issue is killing of an APOSTATE is an evill act or not?>
If it is an evil act...then Bible must be condemned for preaching "killing of apostate"
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Let me clarify the issue: You believed Jesus is a prophet. Jesus has had followers/apostles, hence, these men must be righteous. Jesus told them he would die. They witnessed the death of Jesus and KNEW he was killed; it was very true to them. Yet all the while, according to you, it was a FARCE, carried by Allah! And they had NO idea. These GOOD people were deceived!
Can I get plainer than this?
Can we even make any sense out of this?
Answer this before we tackle the issue of apostasy.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
1) Everyone has to die....Jesus also....but he died later as natural death.
2) None of the "so called apostles" were present at cucifixition site......ALL had run away
3) So any accounts given in Bible can not be considered as PROOF
4) There are CONTRADICTIONS in accounts of his death---and resurrection story etc......if these accounts were written by WITNESSES...........then there should not have been any condradiction.
so biblICAL account is a LIE
lionheart1965 2 years ago
1) Speculations... no proof.
2) They were there, standing from afar. (Luke 23:49}
3) invalid argument--moot and academic
4) These are just ALLEGED contradictions. The Koran has GLARING contradictions.
Anyway, you keep evading the issue: If Jesus is Allah's prophet, then Jesus had followers, were they deceived too? Just answer YES or NO. Is that so difficult to do?
rockmaster333 2 years ago
1) Onus is on you to prove me otherwise...and not on me....its you claim the divinity of jesus....so prove from history that he ever existed an prove his divinnity.
2) If they were AFAR....how could one be sure ..if the crucified person was same as jesus
3) If acconts given are contradictory then these accounts hold no water.
4) refer above.....and in next mail I will provide CONTRADICTIONS in the account of so called witness to rubbish the Bible
lionheart1965 2 years ago
At last my dear lMuslim I want to point out to you that Islam has no sacrifice for sin. You have no blood that will take away sin. Of course Mohammad cannot help you. He is so steeped in sin, lust, death and nlies that he cannot show you the way. It is like going to a devil to help you get to Heaven. Only Jesus the sinless man can help you-whose birth was prophesied 600 years before by Isaiah, whose birth from a virgin was prophesied, whose death on the cross was prophesied,.Jesus is God.
clairstberry 2 years ago
1) Your abusing words towards prophet Mohammad (PBUH) shows that you are a typical christian..possessed by devil
2) If your fake god Jesus could not heal your dirty tongue..which remains as filthy as your Bible...
Name of Jesus could not help those pedophile priests who chant his name on 24 hour basis
then how could your god help general public
Jesus died to atone for his own sin..for he called a ntaive woman as dog..and molested young boys (Refer secret gospel of mark)
lionheart1965 2 years ago
You are right. If you cannot use the Holy Bible and argue logically, the only thing left fo you is to swear and create other books to say what you want . There is no secret gospel of Mark. The gospel that revels the wword of GOd is in the Scriptures. All "gospels are not GOd's word". ONly those in the Bible. Jesus loves you. Love is stronger than hate and all the money you have in the world will not equal love in value. God is Love. Allah is not love and is not God. I am sorry for your sadness.
clairstberry 2 years ago
Dear Lionheart. I point out to you that Num 31 does not refer to a reward in Heaven 32,000 virgin girls were saved from slaughter yet taken and raped. This was the state of man without blood. ONly the blood of goats and bulls could cover sin. THere was no blood to re move the sin of this tribe that had sinned against God. THerefore they wer killed without mercy. Now the blood which saves must be pure. Only a man's blood can redeem the sin of humanity.. Jesus is that man. God has a Son.
clairstberry 2 years ago
1) Those little girls were Saved to be used as SEX SLAVE
2) My heart cries for those little girls....whose MOTHERS and even LITTLE BROTHERS were butchered infront of them
those little girls must be CRYING...WEEPING for their murdered parents.
and then they were taken for RAPE. What a peaceful god of Bible
My questions to all Christians...who is this genocidal maniac god of Bible?
Father
Son
or the holy spirit?
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Matt 10:34 sound literal to you? Did Jesus really carry a literal sword to cause division? Did Jesus actually kill anyone, raided cities, lead armies? No. How about Muhammad? Your shortcomings and fallacies clearly manifests when it comes to understanding the Holy Scriptures. You are blinded by your own shallow interpretation, you blaspheme the Biblical God, the Bible,and Jesus, that you Muslims, even claim to respect and believe. You are full of hatred and anger... what has Islam done to you?
rockmaster333 2 years ago
1) Jesus WAS NOT in the poition of power (such as king) so he could not carry out war/violence. The sole criteria of judging Jesus will be based on his SPEECHES and TEACHING and his willingness to CONDEMN Violence.
2) A man (Jesus) who threatened to KILL BABIES (Rev 2:23) just because their mother would not follow him.can be called Hitler but not a peaceful man.
lionheart1965 2 years ago
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rockmaster333 2 years ago
You keep on referring to passages that ancient Israel used to follow. That is no longer the case. Even "nominal Christians" don't point to these verses to carry out atrocities. These crimes are done because of nationalism, not religious zeal. Can you say the same with Islam? Atrocities done in the name of Christ is a direct CONTRADICTION to the teachings of Jesus. Atrocities done in the name of Islam is a direct OBEDIENCE to the teachings of Muhammad.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Filthy god of Bible says in Bible (1Sameuel 15:3):
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, CHILDREN AND INFANTS, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys. (1 Samuel 15:3)
My questions to all Christians...who is this genocidal maniac god of Bible:
Father
Son
or the Holy spirit?
lionheart1965 2 years ago
The crimes of the Amalekites cried out to GOd. THey killed their own children,raped women and took slaves and raped them too. They killed all the animals to show that the AMALEKITEs WERE NOT BEING KILLED FOR THEIR WEALTH. GOD DESPISED THEIR WEALTH, they were killed because they were guilty and there was no blood to take away their sins. The blood must be innocent to take away the sins of others. The offering must be pure to take away sin. Jesus blood is the only blood that saves. He loves you.
clairstberry 2 years ago
Here is the essence of Bible and its fake god Mr Jesus (son of Mr Yahweh):
BURN ALIVE ALL NATIVES(JOSHUA 6:24, 10:40 etc)
TAKE NATIVE WOMEN AS SEX SLAVE AND RAPE THEM(DEUT 21:12, DEUT 20:14 and NUM 31:18)
MURDER INNOCENT BABIES (1 Samuel 15:3)
Now I can undersatnd why were Aborigines, Maoris and Red Indians etc were murdered, their land stolen and children raped...European were following the teaching of Mr Jesus and Bible.
lionheart1965 2 years ago
"Mehrab (Mosque) means the place of war... of fighting. Out of the mehrabs, wars should proceed. Just as all the wars of Islam proceeded out of the mehrabs. The prophet had sword to kill people. Our Holy Imams were quite militants. All of them were warriors. They used to wield swords. They used to kill people. We need a Caliph who would chop hands, cut throats, stone people. In the same way that the messenger of Allâh used to chop hands, cut throats, and stone people." 1981 A. Khomeini
rockmaster333 2 years ago
Quoting wrongly does not affect my health..
No Imam was ever in position of POWER (except Ali)...so your LIE stands exposed
However, I am not surprised...A Christian is not a REAL Christian...if he is not a LIAR
lionheart1965 2 years ago
. Because lying affects your soul,,it affects your health as well.The reason man gets sick and dies is sin. Lying is a sin. You deliberately lie to win an argument , but harm your mind, your health and your soul. Do not do this my friend. It also affects you mind. The Bible writes that those who deceive are also deceived. It is a spiritual law. You will be set free by the truth Be possessed completely by the truth. Jesus said I am the Way, the Truth and the Light.. God's word is Truth.
clairstberry 2 years ago
You say no imam was ever in a position of power. My friend you for get the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, despot of Iran. He wrote that a man could get sexual pleasure from a chilas young as one year old. This is digusting to most of the world but this imam who ruled Iran in the 1980s wrote this. Hepossessed political power and ordered the deaths of many people. If we read and keep our minds open we will learn Now Jesus said that real power is for a man to serve his neighbor. and do good.
clairstberry 2 years ago
I want to say this clearly. THe Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini despot of IRan nwrote that a man could under Islam, get sexual pleasure from a child as young as one year old. This is disgusting but it is true. What are we to do with this truth. We know that God does not permit this outrage but the imam said it is so. What will you do? You could pretend dthat Christians do this but it does not help you fight the filth of Islam. Christianity does not allow this outrage and would never call it holy.
clairstberry 2 years ago
If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.- 1 John 4:20-21
Do you ;ove me dear one? If you do not, you also do not love God. That is the whole truth. Bless you.
clairstberry 2 years ago
Mr Jesus was a racist (Matthew 15:26), genocidal maniac (Deut 20:13-17), a pedophile (NUM 31:17-35), who condoned torturing of slaves (Exodus 21:21), butchering native babies (1Samuel 15:3), stealing land of native people (Deut 8:7-9), terrorizing innocent people (Joshua11:40), raping the captive women (Deut 21:11-13.
Note: Some of the above crimes were committed by Mr YAHWEH. Since father and son are same, above crime are deemed to have been committed by Mr Jesus
lionheart1965 2 years ago
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rockmaster333 2 years ago
You're manner of speech reveals much of your religiousity, thank you. I'm not surprised. You're Muslim after all, "and out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks." FACT: Muslims do most of the riots and killings after leaving the mosques, Muslim clerics issues death fatwas, suicide bombers are deeply religious, Shariah had been responsible for the most barbaric of deaths and executions in the name of religion in the 21st century.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
There is a FUNDAMENTAL differnec between Quran and Bible..
1) Quran ask ONLY for the SELF DEFENCE (Quran 60:8)
2) While Bible asks its followers to INVADE other nation, kill its NATIVE people and colonise it land.(Deut 20:13-17).
3) Quran explicitly prohibits killing of WOMEN and Children.
4) Bible ask its followers to RAPE, and BUTCHER little infants, old men and women (1Samuel 15:3)
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Funny you quoted Rev 2:23.Revelations is clearly a book of symbols and the "woman" mentioned is not a literal woman, hence her children would be her followers, not "babies" as you imply. As to explaining to you what they represent could be an exercise in futility based on your line of reasoning. FACT: Christians DON'T kill people and say it's what Jesus taught. Muslims, on the other hand, happily do, and points to the Koran and Mohammad. Even YOU acknowledge killing in the name of Islam.
rockmaster333 2 years ago
hamm
My bloody foot...."woman" is not literal...
Why a peacegul man will ue such a violent langauge..
Christians DONT killl people....must be joking ...or you must be under delusion...
Aborigines, Maoris, Aztec...Mayans...all were BUTCHERED in the name of Jesus..
lionheart1965 2 years ago
Your bloody foot has no intelligence. You must think. The phrase" children of democracy" doesn,t mean that democracy is a person who has children. I t refers to the followers of democracy. A son of Islam refers to a follower of Islam and does not mean Islam is a person, isn,t that right? If we are interested in truth we must have a clear mind.Here, the children refered to means followers. Jesus, thank you for loving this one and dying for him so that he could be forgiven.You rose from the dead..
clairstberry 2 years ago
Direct from SATANIC book Bible (REFER DEUT20:13-14):
[13] And when the LORD thy God has delivered your enemies into your hands, you shall KILL every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
[14] Take the women, and the little virgin girls, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, as a plunder for yourselves. You shall eat the spoil of your enemies.
My question to all christains..who is this genocidal maniac god of bible?
Father
Son
or the holy spirit?
lionheart1965 2 years ago
I know you sya this to avoid answering the clear teaching of Mohammad to rape kill and destroy all opponenets of Islam THis is not the teaching of JEsus or of Judaism. REalize that these commmands are to a specific tribe to kill their enemies because their sins have polluted the earth and cry out to GOd. The tribe to be destroyed was violent and killed their own children. There was no sacrifice allowing them to be forgiven. Jesus is that sacrifice. Innocent blood is the payment for sin.
clairstberry 2 years ago
Stop projecting your own religion's shortcomings onto Muslims.
Bible taught violence (Deut 20:13-17) and rape (NUM31:17-35) and terror (Joshua 10:28- 43) half a millenia before mohammed was even BORN!.
KKKristians and Zio-Nazis (pity on them) are so deluded that they don't know (or admit) their own history.
lionheart1965 2 years ago
you must answer the truth. Mohammad raped children killed and maimed and destroyed and cursed his followers to do the same. This is why Muslims rape and kill today. When you are confronted you run by complaining about Jesus who is sinless. Why do you admire the terrorist rapist killer Mohammad ? .
It is truly worshipping Satan. Think my frind. We must go where the truth leads us .Holy Spirit, please guide this man who wants to have courage like a lion.. In Jesus name I pray. Love your enemies.
clairstberry 2 years ago
John 13:23 ην δε ανακειμενος εις των μαθητων αυτου εν τω κολπω του ιησου ον ηγαπα ο ιησους
There was at table one of his disciples, whom Jesus kept loving, resting his head on Jesus' breast.
If you were caught with a naked youth, putting his head on your bare chest ...you have to do lot of explaining to convince----that you are not gay..
Christins Please explain .. why do you worship a pedophile god!!
lionheart1965 2 years ago
The Greek word kol′pos (Joh 13:23) is used in a manner very similar to the usage of breast, although it often has reference to the fold in the upper part of the robe, rather than to the breast itself. In the custom of reclining at meals, the one in front of the bosom of another was in a position of intimacy with him, generally the favored position. Jesus employed this in illustrating Lazarus as being in the bosom position of Abraham, signifying favor with God. (Lu 16:22, 23)
rockmaster333 2 years ago