Great video...and thankfully the best ending one could hope for..a mid ocean landing is the last possible course of action..talk about guts and a steady hand ...man that deep deep ocean maybe 4 or 5 miles deep at that point...black ,dark and cold...Go Bless Capt Ogg.
@deliow the engines on the Stratocruiser (Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Major, a 28 cylinder radial engine dubbed "the corncob" due to its appearance) weren't too reliable. if both of those engines failed, there was a very good chance the other two would fail, and all aboard would be lost
Safety rules require that a plane must still be able to reach an airport even with the loss of two engines at the furthest point from an airport. However, in the case of a propeller-driven plane, that assumes that the propellers of the failed engines have been feathered. In this case, one failed to feather and the increased drag from the windmilling propeller meant that the plane could not reach land.
A miracle everyone survived. However, I read somewhere that there were several dogs in the cargo hold, that were abandoned to their fate. Can anyone corroborate this info???
@nicuribe Wikipedia mentioned 45 cases of live canaries, but nothing is mentioned about dogs. The pilot seemed to be concerned as the following is from a story from the SF Gate website.
Ogg continued to fly until his death in 1991, but the ditching stayed in his mind. His widow recalled asking him, as she sat by his deathbed, about a faraway look on his face.
"I was thinking of those poor canaries that drowned in the hold when I had to ditch the plane," he said.
@CoonShoot Think about it. How far could a B-29 with 3 engines and other issues fly in 3 hours? Just further into the middle of the Pacific. Why would anyone do that?
@CoonShoot - Propliners like the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser couldn't fly even half as fast as modern jetliners. Five hours wouldn't have got them to Hawaii.
My Father (Bill) worked for PAA in the 40's up in Alaska (Fairbanks, I think) and used to talk about a pilot they called "The Wiggard of Ogg" --said he ditched a plane. Well, looks like it was a true story! Great to see actual footage. Thanks.
My Dad was a Capt for Pan Am and flew this very airplane. He was friends with Capt Ogg and I remember setting in our front room of our house at Lake Mohawk, NJ and Capt. Ogg talking about the landing. Years later in the late 1960's I was on the sister ship of this one called the Winona and did a couple of Ocean Station Novermber patrols. I used to talk to my Da flying a 707 overhead.
@wdwflash Hi there Coastie, I was on the Minne. (Minnetonka W67) from '64 - '67 @ the foot of pier "C" in Long Beach CA. I was a Steam Genie (BT). We saw this film quite a few times while we were out on OSN. It helped remind us of why we were bobbin' around in the middle of nowhere. I still love the ocean as much as I did then & considering that I've been landlocked for over 33 yrs. , I miss the ocean ! & yes we did thoroughly enjoy talking W/ the flight crews of passing airliners.
Fascinating footage. The soundtrack is sickeningly sentimental though - hate the way the narrator calmy ignores the fact that the plane came apart when it hit. Must have been traumatic for the passengers.
@juneogg My questions were directed at 2bullitt. I thought his/her comments were a bit presumptuous. You must be proud of your father, as you should be. He sounds to be a great man.
I was never aware that there was film footage of this ditching, even though I am told it was required viewing in pilot training. Dick Ogg lives in aviation mythology to this day. That is why the ocean is referred to as the 'Oggin'.
Ditching one made by a constellation of Varig, the Caribbean, where only the crew was aboard, the captain ordered everyone to go forward, at least one commissioner who did not want, and stayed in the back of the plane, she gave when the plane touched the water, and was the one to die in this accident.
The captain had been head of an investigation committee analyzing a previous ditching of a same model of the same company having gone horribly wrong. One important lesson had been learned from that first ditching: the back part of the fuselage would come apart as soon as the aircraft touched water. Therefore the captain ordered all passengers sitting in the rear part of the cabin to change to the front. No fatalities were the result. Quite calm sea was helpful too..the wasp majors were shit!
Great video...and thankfully the best ending one could hope for..a mid ocean landing is the last possible course of action..talk about guts and a steady hand ...man that deep deep ocean maybe 4 or 5 miles deep at that point...black ,dark and cold...Go Bless Capt Ogg.
lulubell2222 2 months ago
An amazing story. But call me STUPID if the aircraft still had 2 good engines why did it not carry on its prescribed course ??
deliow 3 months ago
@deliow the engines on the Stratocruiser (Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Major, a 28 cylinder radial engine dubbed "the corncob" due to its appearance) weren't too reliable. if both of those engines failed, there was a very good chance the other two would fail, and all aboard would be lost
RJfan 1 month ago
I Remenber this while I was Stationed at Travis AFB. as a mechanic on the C97's
caskigm 3 months ago
the ditching is at 4.40
nolifemerc 4 months ago
Did this incident inspire the movie "Airport '77"?
zoggin 4 months ago
Safety rules require that a plane must still be able to reach an airport even with the loss of two engines at the furthest point from an airport. However, in the case of a propeller-driven plane, that assumes that the propellers of the failed engines have been feathered. In this case, one failed to feather and the increased drag from the windmilling propeller meant that the plane could not reach land.
Everyone survived with no serious injuries.
famospilot 5 months ago
Great video thank you!
vexviper 5 months ago
Presumably, they were more than 5 hours away from the nearest airport
Poopingbotham 5 months ago
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antonisjoin99 6 months ago
A miracle everyone survived. However, I read somewhere that there were several dogs in the cargo hold, that were abandoned to their fate. Can anyone corroborate this info???
nicuribe 7 months ago
@nicuribe Wikipedia mentioned 45 cases of live canaries, but nothing is mentioned about dogs. The pilot seemed to be concerned as the following is from a story from the SF Gate website.
Ogg continued to fly until his death in 1991, but the ditching stayed in his mind. His widow recalled asking him, as she sat by his deathbed, about a faraway look on his face.
"I was thinking of those poor canaries that drowned in the hold when I had to ditch the plane," he said.
radmoose 4 months ago
Didn't get a word of the American talking.. How many died?
Exagerative 7 months ago
I have always wondered, couldn't they have just kept fying to destination? There was 5 hours of goofin' off before ditching.
CoonShoot 7 months ago
@CoonShoot Think about it. How far could a B-29 with 3 engines and other issues fly in 3 hours? Just further into the middle of the Pacific. Why would anyone do that?
HuskyMaxx 6 months ago
@CoonShoot - Propliners like the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser couldn't fly even half as fast as modern jetliners. Five hours wouldn't have got them to Hawaii.
JBofBrisbane 5 months ago
My Father (Bill) worked for PAA in the 40's up in Alaska (Fairbanks, I think) and used to talk about a pilot they called "The Wiggard of Ogg" --said he ditched a plane. Well, looks like it was a true story! Great to see actual footage. Thanks.
gmaclaw 7 months ago
Well, Ogg & Sully ~ A half century between them but the bravery, courage & leadership was equally as impressive.
MrRonnieG 8 months ago
the plane broke up. how could people have been seated at the point of impact and survived? seems like a miracle
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davidbennett60 11 months ago
That was so sweat of you.
davidbennett60 11 months ago
Wow, great history lesson!
incheon 11 months ago
My Dad was a Capt for Pan Am and flew this very airplane. He was friends with Capt Ogg and I remember setting in our front room of our house at Lake Mohawk, NJ and Capt. Ogg talking about the landing. Years later in the late 1960's I was on the sister ship of this one called the Winona and did a couple of Ocean Station Novermber patrols. I used to talk to my Da flying a 707 overhead.
wdwflash 11 months ago 15
@wdwflash Great story! I'm glad so many folks are able to "travel back in time" because of this video!
MikeRomeoVictor 11 months ago 6
@wdwflash Hi there Coastie, I was on the Minne. (Minnetonka W67) from '64 - '67 @ the foot of pier "C" in Long Beach CA. I was a Steam Genie (BT). We saw this film quite a few times while we were out on OSN. It helped remind us of why we were bobbin' around in the middle of nowhere. I still love the ocean as much as I did then & considering that I've been landlocked for over 33 yrs. , I miss the ocean ! & yes we did thoroughly enjoy talking W/ the flight crews of passing airliners.
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merrieminchewchd 1 year ago
Fascinating footage. The soundtrack is sickeningly sentimental though - hate the way the narrator calmy ignores the fact that the plane came apart when it hit. Must have been traumatic for the passengers.
JasonJason210 1 year ago
Gee, I didn't think Sully was that old?
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ilenejyty 1 year ago
seems to me that the damn thing would have made S.F. and landed on pavement.
2bullitt 1 year ago
Guess you had to be there to know the correct decision.
juneogg 1 year ago
@2bullitt Really? Were you there?
FylthyBeest 1 year ago
No, but pretty close since Captain Ogg is my father!
juneogg 1 year ago
@juneogg My questions were directed at 2bullitt. I thought his/her comments were a bit presumptuous. You must be proud of your father, as you should be. He sounds to be a great man.
FylthyBeest 1 year ago
I was never aware that there was film footage of this ditching, even though I am told it was required viewing in pilot training. Dick Ogg lives in aviation mythology to this day. That is why the ocean is referred to as the 'Oggin'.
Captain Austin J.Brown. (Retd).
BROWNAJ07 1 year ago 3
Those guys sounded so calm talking to each other, it was like they were old friend just catching up.
KYLEAKAFLYBOIK 1 year ago
O que ??? Gente, o teclado de vocês estão com as letras nos lugares errado. Não entendi nenhum comentério.
certimpedro 1 year ago
Ditching one made by a constellation of Varig, the Caribbean, where only the crew was aboard, the captain ordered everyone to go forward, at least one commissioner who did not want, and stayed in the back of the plane, she gave when the plane touched the water, and was the one to die in this accident.
valdetripa 1 year ago
@valdetripa That's what you get for being a smart ass!
767deltaairlines 1 year ago
Well, luckly, being in reach of a coast guard ship!
aerotranslados 1 year ago
The captain had been head of an investigation committee analyzing a previous ditching of a same model of the same company having gone horribly wrong. One important lesson had been learned from that first ditching: the back part of the fuselage would come apart as soon as the aircraft touched water. Therefore the captain ordered all passengers sitting in the rear part of the cabin to change to the front. No fatalities were the result. Quite calm sea was helpful too..the wasp majors were shit!
oskarbider99 2 years ago 2
Almost every air line pilot in the world has seen this clip many times in annual recurrent training.
nckewm 2 years ago
almost a forerunner of catus 1549,also inspiratition for ersnt ghans the high and the mighty , starring duke wayne.
neweast1 2 years ago
Guess they shouldn't have dumped the fuel in hindsight, seeming the plane could hold altitude...
mistersmith6000 2 years ago
Precious document .
miguelmouta 2 years ago 2
Selected as the Video of the Week by the Lubbock Composite Squadron - Civil Air Patrol. Thanks for posting this video.
TrickyGap 2 years ago 4