Team Fortress 2 - Engineer update: What do you think?

[wormsmaster1994]

i like that mini sentry.

gives a nice offensie boost and packs quite a punch but it also recuires 1 metal for each shot so it takes a lot of metal to reload it.

and you keep having morons who use them in defence and that is not thair strongest point..

i like that new bleeding wrench.

2 hits on a spy and he bleeds to death and cannot simply cloack his way out ofc :3

new shotgun : u get crits if ur sentry made kils and is dead but the ammo capacity is a real annoying feuture which makes it bad

[viljo98]

what about engineers class set Shotgun: looks like shotgun but its blue -25 damage done +50 ammo capacity Slows target for 20% No random critical hits Pistol: Looks like revolver +15 damage done -50 critical strike damage done +20 run speed Wrench:Looks like a Southern hospitality but not bleeding -50 damage done +20 run speed Destroys sappers with one hit no random critical hits +100 damage.vs.spys + critical hits for 10 sec Set bonus: Sentry upgrade to lvl 4 Sentry lvl 4: +10 damage done

[CrossZiggy]

I dislike the wrangler as I dont really find it usefull xD I prefer auto-aiming from the scrips, but I do see some stuff thats good, like around-corner enemies could be tricked, but yeah I guess it's how you have your setup, what gamemmode and how you play, I personally play arena alot, so I always place mini sentries and then do my own thing, or I camp at my sentrie, Being a mini still ofcourse, minies > big ones in arena :P

[keywc]

There's a red spy in this video. The one who finds it gets +1cm e-penis.

[Maxinium]

old engi update: it's cool

New engi update: Frikkin Awesome!

[tdraken2]

sandstorm for life :)

[RickTheStickman2]

The gold wrench is awesome! Cool to erect statues of morons! Haha! my favorite unlock. The one I most use.

[oldhamj12]

SANDSTORM is awsome

[ApinaMiesification]

SRS tablet [replaces pistol] add to a building and it can repair itself,as long as you got metal.attaching requires 100 metal. that would be cool (SRS is for self repair system)

[psycosanches589]

some new engie weps i like all but the wrangler

[3dmagix]

i think this can`t be more laggy -.-

[KiKoS657]

@3dmagix it can...just pause it

[Grim1Tuesday2]

LOL Real engie update is out now!

[jjhays36]

i saw the date on this and in my head i was like FUCK cus it wasnt the today engie update

[PSPISOGAME]

Ideas: WATCH MAH VIDEO

[FilikB]

L00K at mah ideas to (Shotgun) Parctical Problem - As seen in trailer +VAVLe alredy finished it no needs (Pistol) Texas Ranger - More looks like revolver +25% Damage +10% Crit -25% Reload Speed (Wrench) Motherhabard Builder Some kind of old rusty whrench + 25% Damage + 50% Building speed - Only 150 Metal in slot

[keggie09]

Idea:

(Pistol) Tazer Gun

Makes Enemys stand still for 2 seconds

But Reload time of 10 seconds

(ShotGun) Old Ranger: Less Power more Range

(Wrench) Drill: Does no damage to enemys and makes building faster

[st8rifle]

ideas for engy pt 1

the re-painter: a paint gun like thing that temporarily change enemy team color to theirs to have painted enemy get friendly fire. (replaces 2nd slot)

Irene: a double-barrel slug-gun that shoots very accurate bursts of bullets but it's -25% of bullets shot out of the barrel & damage done (replaces 1st slot)

the broken ?: a broken wrench-gun-like thing +50% hit rate, guaranteed crit on full metal capacity, -25% damage & degrades metal when hitting enemy (replaces melee)

[ZSaberToothTigerZ]

The Engi Radar

All cloaked or disquised spy in range of it will be visible, can be updated to lv3 for higher radius

[ZonnollyC]

LOL. NICE GRIEF. XD

[Tikachu45]

@Darkhoster

omfg read the description fuck head

[mikeink21]

i still dont see why valve dosent update the xbox version or at least put the new maps on it like goldrush or badwater

[Tabe112]

A dispenser and sentry that could move around would be pretty cool.

[storm1OG]

as far as i knw the robots might be new "skins" for bots in game but remember this is fawkin valve and the tf2 teams' sarcastic ases sooo there r many inside shit u have to think about for example the hevys gun n pyros flmthwr r on the table thes rep the upadtes for hevys faster spin time and pyros new damage increse then thers the mask hes wering thts for the tf2 comunity hat maker guy and the poster is also the winnig WAR update poster.

[UNOWNBX]

my guess was a new wrench that builds faster but dose less damage to enemies close enough to whack them with O_o Lol...

[ZiggyR2750]

@UNOWNBX Sounds like an idea I have for the blow torch. It can overheat, but builds/repairs faster when concentrated. It does about 15% damage on enemies, but sets them on fire for about 3 seconds.

[UNOWNBX]

@ZiggyR2750 hmmm not bad o3o

[oskede]

A engineer teaser has came out. Search google 'TF2 Engineer teaser'

He's working on something. But as you may notice. There are a lot of things that could happen ingame in that teaser.

At the start you can see he's guitar. After that. You'll see a Welder. possible a weapon? :D

And at the end, you can see he's picking up a hammer. Maybe faster hit rating or something?

Oh! And one more thing! You can also see a blueprint at the back of the engineer. It's an robotarm. Could that be something ? :P

[Kenaniken2010]

I'm pretty sure it'll be a specific type of dispenser, apparently instead of the pistol or something . And the sentry will be also something mobile, but NOT a giant robot, that'll be "OVERPOWER".

[ZiggyR2750]

@Kenaniken2010 A mobile RC sentry? :O It'll have to be level 1, though, because a lvl 3 sentry is too strong and heavy to be mobile

[GrandmasSentry]

@ZiggyR2750 check out mah pic and u will see that this is possible

[arunachala1008]

i think when the engineer gets his level 3 sentry and level 3 dispenser he should be able to turn into a giant robot the picture of heavy with all the sentry gun attached to his back.

[RossKerr255]

@arunachala1008 srry but is you're comment a joke cos unlocks like that would really ruin the game!!

[superdeaco]

autoshotgun (replaces shotgun)

pros no pumps

 cons 50% less damage ammogun (replaces wrench ) same as medicgun only gives ammo, no mouse 2

[superdeaco]

@superdeaco CHANGE!! ammo gun replaces pistol and dispenster dosnt give ammo

[GenghisKhan44]

Dispenser Backpack:

Replaces typical dispenser AND chews up slot 2 (where the pistol goes).

BUT you get to carry a dispenser level 2 with you wherever you go.

Maybe with the secondary fire, you could drop it or pick it up.

Metalgun:

A modified version of Medic's Medigun. Replaces wrench. Shoots a beam of metal to any upgradable or damaged building (like the medigun does with people). Drains metal supply. Can't be used to attack with.

Ubercharge-like power for 8 seconds.

[reeperman2]

@GenghisKhan44

I like the idea of the dispenser backpack, but there would have to be a lot of balancing issues

Level one, no metal, doesn't give health or ammo to engineer carrying it, engineer carrying it can't break off sappers, when destroyed the resulting explosion hurts the engineer.

[moregan101]

I want this so it can get updated on 360.

[D8W2P4]

A motorized cart you can build on

1 you can build a pretty good amount on it and can go on land or water but moves around the speed of a bomb cart

2 anyone can run it (wasd type control) just jump on it to run it and jump off it to stop and even the other team can capture it and then run it (changes color when happens) also the Engi who built it originally can't just blow it up when it's captured it has to be A. recaptured or B. blown-up by someother means cont.V

[D8W2P4]

Cont^

Also the cart itself is not sappable,but whatever is built on it is still sappable and if the cart is blown-up everything on it blows-up as well.

3 takes 2 items to build it 1 the wrench and your choice of gun is replaced by a battery-operated drill with a socket on it (causes no damage) but as you run it,it uses "ammunition" but it can build rediculously fast and 2 a toolbag for holding 400 metal which is the same amount as it takes to build the cart. cont.V

[D8W2P4]

Cont^

And finally you can build 2 two way teleporters (instead of those one way ones) that only works for your team and can even be built in your spawn.

Those 2 things would be really nice to have in my opinion.

[jamesfish05]

I have an idea for an engie update.

Allows you to place 2 more of every building and takes away your shotgun.

[superstarman9001]

My idea: Decoy Buildings (Sentry Guns, Dispensers, and Entrance/Exit Teleporters).

They look, move, and sound like the real buildings, but don't do anything... unless provoked. The Sentry Guns will act like they're out of ammo, as will the Dispensers. If an enemy tries to attack it (or in the case of Spies, sap it), it will immediately explode, causing a tremendous amount of damage to anyone unlucky enough to be close by.

[GenghisKhan44]

Decoy buildings would be a great idea.

Then we could finally say "That Sentry is a Spy!"

[superstarman9001]

I forgot to add a couple of things. It will replace the Build PDA (the Destroy PDA will still work). The Engineer who built it and his teammates will be able to tell it's a fake (it will say "Decoy" before the building name). The other team won't, though. They can also be upgraded. The higher level it's at, the bigger and stronger the explosion will be. I'm not sure whether it should cost more, less, or the same amount of metal to build them.

[Feleon99]

Update! They are now working on the new weapons for the ENGIE! :D

[SkySavior]

EPIC SONG I LOVE SANDSTORM :D

[KeenanS11]

Continued.

3. Sentry Shotgun (replaces shotgun) Looks exactly like shotgun -50% dammage done normally -No random critical hits +Always Critical hits on players being targeted by sentry +50% ammo capacity

4. Super Sentry -Can't be upgraded past level 2 -10% damage done -100 more metal to upgrade to level 2 -10 seconds longer to build +50% range +25% pushback +5% life

These Are my Ideas that keep the game fair and balanced. Please reply if you think they can be inproved.

[Jrezky]

I think your sentry shotgun should have less ammo than you allot. Maybe +25% or so, controlled crits are always a weary sign especially with the range you give your alternate sentry. Otherwise not a bad thought, I always felt the engi update was lacking in alternate weapons.

[KeenanS11]

1. SMG (replaces pistol) - Like the snipers SMG - 75% damage done + 100% mag capacity + when hit a spy, It will drain 5% cloak per bullet

2. Ripperjack (Replace Shotgun). Will look slightly like the scattergun -15 max health -20 metal per shot -50 max metal carried +10% damage done +Can upgrade sentries at a range

[Weirdal91]

1. gaurd dog (replace pistol) - dog growls at cloaked and disguised spies within range (same range as sentry) -attacks disguised spies that come too close, immobilizing them (but just growls in general area for cloaked spies) 2. A welder (replace wrench) -2x repair/upgrade speed -lights enemies on fire -taunt kill where electricity zaps from the engie's fingers. 3. A pouch (replace pistol) -doubles metal carrying capacity -allows engie to drop metal for teammates -slower movement speed, maybe?

[Jrezky]

guard dog is way overpowered, and I don't even play spy but seriously, revealing and even attacking spies? spy class already sucks to play against a paranoid team now you want to pit AI against him? The pouch is an interesting concept.

[shadowmare01]

I think there should be device, costing 150 metal, that alerts the engineer when a spy is nearby, but doesn't actually give the spy's location. That way the spy and the engi have a fair chance XD.

[agun17]

HAND HELD SENTRY

[MeMM00]

i think that the sentry should be a flamer type and at lvl 3 has a dual flamer and a slighty lnger ranger rockets, about +15% range

flamer sentry!

best placed: around corners

[TheShadowgaiden]

Nail Gun

*replaces pistol*

fires rapidly at an arch (like syringe gun)

repairs buildings from a distance

but can not upgrade

requires no metal but has low ammunition

+50% damage vs spies

+25% reload speed

[laurynasman]

@TheShadowgaiden submit it to valve i like this idea i think they might do it

[baval5]

@TheShadowgaiden it should use metal as ammo

[Setsaku]

@TheShadowgaiden

That sounds pretty broken, give it -50% reload speed and make it use metal, and maybe it'll get somewhere.

[rayane181297]

@TheShadowgaiden +25 Thumb up damage :D

[MrPastitsios007]

well one thing is a remote moving sentrygun or robot, a wrench with faster build time but less damage, a back pack that aquires more metal, and last but not least a way to build two sentries.

[purpleblah2]

A remote-control moving sentry with a mini-gun, and (maybe) airblast. You can't move while controlling it, and can only reload it by hitting it.

Two level 1 ball-shaped sentry guns.

A revolver that marks targets for your sentries.

A dispenser backpack for teammates.

A shotgun that sprays pellets that glow the enemy's color if they hit a disguise.

A shield generator that replaces your secondary, and builds a shield around teammates that can take 100 damage, but costs 200 metal.

[MonoOak]

Wrench :

Build time reduced by 45%

Damage reduced by 35%

No random crits

:3

[Stogryn]

Solar-powered Lazor sentries... +50% ammo useage when used inside +50% ammo regeneration when used outside 10 metal upgrade per 5 seconds (when used outside) +25% fire rate +30% range -30% damage Lvl 1: 6 rounds per second Lvl 2: 10 rounds per second Lvl 3: 10 rounds per second, secondary fire: Charged shot, one direct shot per five seconds, 150 damage. And a melee weapon: The sledgehammer. +30Damage -50% Build speed (aka. when whacking a sentry) Perfect for Battle Engies!

[GenghisKhan44]

Solar-powered sentry reminds me of the lazer towers in Age of Empires: Rise of Rome.

[krealle1]

Get the updates for xbox 360!

[Anthaon]

Maybe sometime in 2015, you know how the gaming industry can be.

[SuperDawgE]

my best guess is a new dispenser that doesnt give out health but gives you and your teammates minicrits when you stand by it. i have no idea what they will do for the engineer's main weapons.

[cashy567]

how about instead of him getting new weapons he gets new PDAs ex. and defence PDA with 3 senterys and a despecer(i know my spelling is crap) a front lines PDA 2 senterys and 2 despencers, and a teli PDA 1 sentery 2 teli entrece and a teli exit( one entrece for both spawns like in 2fort, suport PDA 3 senterys and a sentery.

If you like the idea and send it in to Valve put Kotbaw on the credits.

[Krang65645]

I want engies to build cooler things like a tank that multiple people can mount AND i'd like engies to be able to build a bunker, like a mini fort.

As for the tank, i'd like it to cost like 2000 metal or something, so it would take a group effort to build one and keep it maintained.

As for the bunker, well it pretty much explains itself, once built it provides cover, a dispenser and a teleporter exit all in one but cant build a sentry as a leveler.

[Krang65645]

Another cool idea is a robot drone. Very fast small unit thats easily destroyed but kills quickly with melee attacks.

Costs 200 metal to build, point it in the direction you want it to go when building and it will seek and destroy on its own.

[SovietMudkipTheTiger]

@Krang65645

Thats just stupid ...

[davidbjuhr]

instead of your shot gun they should have remote controlled mini tank whit 45 hp that cost 200 metal

[068636281]

What map is this? Is it custom?

[Nicky02468]

I doubt the buildings will receive updates, in the load out page it shows the Shotgun/Pistol and Wrench. But you never know really.

[ClaytonStaples]

I hope they come out with a Flame Sentry, with shorter range that a regular.

As for the shotgun, it should have 25% more damage to buildings. I don't know about the pistol, and the wrench should be 20% slower swing, but it should give 50 metal instead of 25.

[lllworldmusiclll]

stealing my idea? =3 (I am jk) But reading comments below I Just remembered they might make some attachments to the sentries maybe make some move in a horizontal line maybe make a lvl 4 but yea

[ClaytonStaples]

I was stealing your ideas?

Meh, great minds think alike, I guess..

[lllworldmusiclll]

I Was jk bro lol

[p33t3r5l94]

you can maybe replace the lvl 3 sentry with two lvl 2 sentries, with 10% less hp or something :/

[LordMurdalot]

it would be cool if as an engie u could hak into other engies teleports

[Aapo106]

just throw a flamethrower instead of the rockets on the level 3 sentry

[madcow4410]

goodbye long range! hello screwed engineers!

[wackowx]

spy detecting radar dish... insted of a dispenser.. so the engineers can discover those facking spys

.. they piss me of

[magicdan2]

i think for matching demoman should be a barrier generater that when you hit with wrench makes shield for like 4-5 seconds but then has recharge time of like 40 seconds or more possibly 1 minute+. it would bounce projectiles away, but would not stop bullets or fire and it can be walked through like a bubble. just a idea but dunno whether would upset the balance lol, but would give a skilled engineer a chance to defend rushes, demospam.

[onepiece55]

i saw a new wrench the P.Q.D. or the P.D.Q. idk i just saw that it builds 60% faster but doesnt allows to upgrade

[budbudding123456789]

i so wonder what the engy update will be.

[crunk001]

i bet it will be some rocket-turrets or flame-turrets or maybe something to stun

[1234gamefreak1]

the song goes with the wrench hitting

[ornakola]

sandstorm by Darude

[vetle228]

lol hi!!!!!!

[Skummiso]

What about a sentry replacement with the TFC detpack? And then only scout can disarm it, making scouts easier to be useful?

[COZYTW]

I have an idea, how about a beacon? One that the engineer throws at an enemy so the sentries (that mean allies' sentries too) fire only at that target? It can be on the ground to spam ammo so that spies can't pass.

[rfrakctured]

spy is the main engineer counter-class, if you gave engies a tool against them, it would really throw off the balance.

[ScorchxXx]

common misconception, soldier is the main engy counter class. spy is the sniper's main counter. Although he is pretty good against an engineer unless the engy is really guarding his sentry.

[TheGameJedi]

I always thought that the demoman was the main engy counter class.

I have more trouble as an engy with demomen than soldiers and spies put together.

Spies can be shot and their sappers removed.

I can turtle a soldier indefinitely, outside of an uber that allows him to kill me directly.

However, three sticky bombs will take out me, my sentry and my dispenser, and a good demoman can toss these from a distance rather quickly.

[luigi1798]

the spy is engys main counter class that is why he has a zapper atleast i thought....

well i guess the soldier is

[BipolarBomber]

I'd probably say that the Demoman is an Engineer's worst nightmare. At least that's how it is when I play Engie.

[muggtonp]

@BipolarBomber Tru but now the wrangler gives it a shield

[TurkishGamer92]

@BipolarBomber There is now a way to get your Sentry not destroyed by a Demoman. If a Demo uber is coming, just activate the Wrangler, shoot away deployed sticky bombs. The demoman needs 8 Sticky bombs to destroy a shielded Sentrygun and if you shoot 2-3 away, he must reload again -> WIN

[go2google22]

oh and btw y doesent engie have achievments...btw 440181thats a cool idea

[go2google22]

should have a wrench that gains ammo when u hit some1 but u atk slower...just for balence

[440181]

here is my idea for the engineer update.

a whole new building, a security camera. sounds stupid but listen (or read :P)

u would get one maybe two cameras and build them. it would be small, weak and able to scan the room 360 degrees and detect spies but tagging them (or something like that) or it could just scan the room and give all others players a little screen in the corner of there screen so they could c what is going on. im ready for the negtive comments lol :D

[Beta142]

send this idea to valve :D

[440181]

CBA lol but u can if u want.

[POTVIN121]

thats a good idea but i think it should just tag spys or somthing cause a camira would seem kinda use less

[dieslowly0473]

but then there would be absolutely no point in spy at all if anything could tag players especialy spies, may as well run around un-disguised spamming revolver?

i admit its a good idea but tagging players i dont think so.

[POTVIN121]

goddam fuckin spahs ruin every thing

[luigi1798]

i agree but i think the engineer should have a mini screen showin a area were he has put the camera (s) and their would be like a green pattern on team mates and red on enimies and spys so this would be gud also u cant be half way across the map u hav 2 be close by and the camera could be a grade 6 for a sentry but i dont think that would work it would all be awsome and would work aswell

[Takeshi607]

i was thinking of making a update. a new weapon about beer. cuz in meet the engineer he was drinking beer, and in meet the sanvich there was a bottle of beer. it can be like the sanvich but different.

[milkyab]

How about a gun that steals ammo when you shoot an enemy and gives you metal/ammo?

Similar to the blutsauger...

[Oxygen97]

i heard it is coming out tomoz

[Ghostmij]

this has already come out (the dispensor lvl up), i dont get the point of this........

[Eggyrocks1]

This video was uploaded in December 2008, just after this specific update.

[AnimeGod75]

engineer should have a weapon that lets you steals the enemy machines

[fullysicknick1020]

a shield that protects buildings from spys but only upgrades to lvl 2

[tjtrouble1]

FIRE SENTRY!!!!!!

[manbot47]

What if you could have 2 sentrys; 1 rocket and 1 gun. They would have less health (70% of a lvl 3), lvl 2 reaction time and can't be upgraded past lvl 2. They'd be weaker than a regular lvl 3 but you could watch 2 places at the same time.

[rockninja3]

spy sapper! why doesnt he get one?

[Ironhide987]

i think 1 of the engi updates should be if a spy saps ur sentry when ur sentry blows up the spy dies with it

[metalsoul66]

Or, even better. What if upon sapping the sentry instantly blows up and takes down the spy with it?

[WindShark2]

nothing special, just a update

[linux750]

how do you get level 3 dispensers in the PlayStation 3 version?

[samprice1]

cant

[soulreaver017]

you cant

[jonnybatchy]

i think they should give the engie like a radio jammer thing which jams the enemys stuff for a few seconds because the engie can make these things so he should know all about them and maybe even be able to convert their sentrys against them ??

[zezu09]

yeah that would be cool i mean it makes sence that he could like so called *sap* enemys buildings

[slodice]

On the engy update, you could make a flamethrower sentry which you mount on the wall

[nokojoko]

there has ben lvl 3 tele sentrys and dispencers for a realy long time

[ornakola]

Yup..

[linux750]

how do you get level 3 dispensers? i keep beating on my level 1 dispenser but it doesn't level up at all. whereas my i can get a level 3 in under a minute if i have enough metal available.

[joejoe8151]

when the f*** did this happen? the only updates ive heard about is the pyro heavy scout medic sniper and spy so wtf did this come from?

[ornakola]

The Engineer update didn't give him new weapons. It made Dispensers and teleporters able to get upgraded to level 3. This happened before scout update and after heavy and medic and pyro..

[Mouldywart]

No.... The official update for the engie is still not out. This was a small change to how some of his buildings works. It is little more than a small tweak.

[xXxIceGodxXx]

I wonder when the engi official update comes out...

[NJTipton]

Look at the vid date broski

[pivotplayer2]

i hope so i don't wanna wait for every class to be updated then get the updates

[ihatesealss]

Apparently the update for the 360 is too big for an average 360s storage device/hard drive to be able to hold, probably only 360 owners with the "elite" HD would be able to hold it but thats really fucking expensive but valve is trying to figure out a way to work it in.

in case anyone was wondering but hadnt heard

[conano711]

thanks for that i thought they were just being lazy thanks again that makes me feel good that they might get these on xbox =+}

[herrstoy]

It's not about the harddrives, but the amount of memory the 360 has. They just can't pack the new content in the memory.

[Terr0rFox]

dispencer upgrade is not on xbox right?

[randomgalore]

so far none of the pc updates are for xbox.

[Terr0rFox]

yea that's too bad - i hope it will be upgraded once. specially the dispencer

[Zant216]

OMG I loves this song!!!!

[whyumad808]

I heard that once the PC people get all the class updates then the 360 people get the class updates.

[Knockdowneh]

yes, actually i think they get it sometime this year regardless of if the Pc has all the class updates by that time

[rimlanin]

Well hands down PC version is better, we get 0-6 updates evry month normally 2-3, PC version has better graphics (for faster comps), more maps ability to add custom content like skins, custom maps, kind of better controls (at lest i like PC controls better). And yes sometimes we do get lag, but i almost never get lag. My fps is normally around 60, probably most comps will have around 30-60 fps. I am sorry xbox and ps dont haev updates, but i heard a xbox one is comming, too bad it will be paid.

[pivotplayer2]

beter than never getting them for the ps3

[TzarNicholas2]

nope!

[TacoKhan]

The day we get the pc stuff for 360 is the day duke nukem forever goes gold.

[mrfaty2]

lol

[radioactivepotatoman]

lol you win.

[The1stguy1]

Does it annoy anyone else out there how long it takes for the dispenser just to set up its "ammo belt thing" its like 1/2 the entire process

[banjosolid]

the xbox version is the better one on consoles but who cares pc users have had updates since it first came out tones more maps less lagg better graphics everything so dont fanboy out

[thundercat287]

i noticed from the last update, the teleporters now upgrade together if not already lvl3. usually, you had to upgrade both of them.

[ornakola]

yes, but if one of them dies, you have to upgrade one more time

[thundercat287]

i meant that hitting one upgrades both. i wasn't talking about the destroyed part.

[HMiste]

Actually, Lost and the Damned has a chance of appearing on the PS3 if there's enough calls for it.

Team Fortress 2 is abandoned for the PS3. It's getting nothing, full stop.

[doodwtfomglol]

I keep hearing different opinions on whether or not the ps3 will get an update. Personally, I don't give a shit whether they update it or not, what REALLY worries me is the rumor that they are going to shut down the PS3 TF2 servers completely!!

[banjosolid]

lol r u stupid

[doodwtfomglol]

I'm afraid i'm not stupid. Are you?

[zalphizzy]

Ha if you look at dood's message and banjo's message it's pretty obvious who actually is less intelligent

[GoldKiller100]

what this song (i like this song)

[ornakola]

Darude - sandstorm

[4n6oracle]

haha, that teleporter looks like it could explode and kill everyone when its powered up to lvl 3 lol!! awesome

[Iruto14]

i sent them an email asking y

[ornakola]

Email to who? Valve?

[Iruto14]

yes

Ok, it will come soon then =)