If Jeff Burton REALLY wanted to know which was easier all he had to do was ask Jeff Gordon since in 2003 Gordon tested Montoya's Williams at Indy. That would've been an accurate explaination
True. But without FIA stupid traction control, it would be even harder. I mean, NASCAR drivers would be good F1 drivers, but would be slow compared to the likes of Alonso and Hamilton.
@yowyOw69 there is no TC in F1 anymore, to become an F1 driver you have to start driving karts and then go to the smaller formulas like Renault or Nissan...
I cant think of any NASCAR driver who wouldnt be beaten to the ground even by Karthikeyan...
NASCAR just god damn sucks!!!! anyone can drive fast, but only a few can handle state-of-the-art machines through curves and turns as efficiently as an F1 pilot (not driver as in NASCAR)!!!!!... simple as that!
Another typical "ooh look at us, superior technology, pilot, bla bla bla" NASCAR is grass roots racing, old school fun, who gives a fuck about superior technology? It's all about the fun of the racing. And pilot? It's called a driver buddy, pilots fly planes...
@H3Forge well actually u could call a driver a pilot. actually all country's do but North America. F1 has better drivers, better cars, better tracks, and better technology. u guys are even scared to race in rain u fuckin pussies! moto gp races in rain ya know.
and speaking of fun, how the hell is 3 hours of left, left, left fun? ur another "dale jr. and beer! go america!"
shutup only america is dumb enough to race ovals. no one but the hillbilly's like it!
It's funny how ignorant foreigners truly are using typical stereotypes. NASCAR has done rain races before. Stock Cars are built for dry ovals, not rain. Keep using the Hillbilly left turn stereotypes, it's the only thing you have right? Can't say anything else? I'd rather watch "Left Turn Circles" than Follow the Leader all the time.
Other countries races ovals dumbshit, I can't get over the sheer ignorance in your comment. Better drivers? Why does Juan suck ass in NASCAR?
@H3Forge lol u dont use steriotypes mr. "follow the leader". and stop talking about "steriotypes" in general. no other countrys primarily dont focus on ovals. they may have oval tracks like motegi, but all race series out side of america are focused on road courses.
why does jaun suck in nascar? ill tell u why. not his style of racing. he grew up in open wheel, and one seaters, racing karts. he wasnt raised for oval racing. and why is there no nascar drivers is F1? please, reply.
@H3Forge uhh dont reply or talk to me. just seen ur channel, ur last favorited vid is the national anthem song, and u have uploaded pokemon vids. dont even talk to me kid. u dont know ur racing. and u seem the typical american nascar fan. cant argue with someone that does right turns twice a year!
So what? The song kicks ass? And a lot of people still play Pokemon. I don't play it anymore, but Pokemon will always be an awesome childhood memory.
Typical American? Lmao is that all you can come up with? Please? Get back to your Fragile wanna be bumble bees. Don't call me a kid when you obviously can't type or come up with a valid argument you Dumb Fuck
@H3Forge i cant come up with an argument? why is it that in the last 15 years no Nascar driver has been able to join F1? why has there been F1 drivers being able to go in Nascar. how is oval racing, hard and how is it challenging? why do they do 2 road courses? why dont they race in rain, when Moto GP even races in rain? why are they not racing at watkins glenn when its raining? moto gp, F1, any other sport would race in rain. how are we follow the leader when johnson has won 5 in a row? answer
Ferrari123planb - Ok, pussy-blocking little bitch. Let me own you on another topic. You know in NASCAR, the cars weigh over 3,400 lbs. That's heavy for a competition racing car, so taking corners is a lot harder then you think. It's hard keeping the car steady, not trying to lose the rear end in such a heavy car, when you have other cars at least 2" away from you at all directions. Not to mention they have the same job as every other driver does, so shut the fuck up and do your research, faggot.
Nobody here is mad, you stupid little cunt. You like it when I'm mad? No, get the fuck out. You like when you get owned, apparently. It's just that easy to own the shit out of you. When you get completely owned like now, you call it a troll win. That's because you're stupid, and an unintelligent faggot. Why don't you try NASCAR then, if it's so easy? NASCAR sucks, but it's better then F1. Better then F1 for the last decade, and on.
The only mad person is you, replying to me. BUTTHURT! UMADBRO?
"Your a hillbilly?" ... Well, you're (the proper term) a dumbass. Just because I live in America, it doesn't automatically make me a "hillbilly." Why don't YOU stop stereotyping, you homo? You're bitching about stereotypes, but you're stereotyping yourself.
Where do you live at, kid? I'll send you a rope and a chair so you can go hang yourself. I'm pretty sure we can use the earth space. =)
Jesus Christ, why are you arguing with this dumb piece of shit? I already argued with that guy on another topic, and completely dropped the argument after I completely owned him, and blocked me. He's a butthurt little pussy. Just move on, and let this kid be.
This guy is right F1 dose take more skill and if I want to see a stock car customised to race spec ill watch v8 supercars it actualy has some right hand turns
I could not agree more with this video. And who said the Cup Driver outlaped Hamilton on his F1 car, are you crazy, he was 8 seconds slower p/lap and in F1 8 Seconds is like 2 days with don't know.
@swordandkeyboard seriously? Hamilton went out in wet conditions, then stewart set his lap on a drying track..... Do Nascars even run regularly in the rain? If Stewart was even remotely close in raw pace compared to Lewis Hamilton, he'd be offered 30 odd million dollars a year and an instant move to F1, as it stands, while i'm impressed he kept it out of the wall, I'd be more impressed if he were able actually get into F1 cars up and down the paddock following a proper seat fitting...
@rb118118 I don't even really like Stewart to much but he is twice Hamilton age don't forget and has championship in indy and nascar. Let us not look down on nascar drivers. Everyone said how Montoya was going to do in Nascar. He could not even win a Busch championship yet a cup championship. Kiki did okay in his truck debut.Problem with F1 there are to many guys standing around under the umbrellas and not enough Jackie Stewart's or Nigel's, Mario's or Jaq's anymore. Too many pampered drivers.
@swordandkeyboard That's a much better comment than your previous one. Can't argue with much of that bar the pampered drivers comment, which is inaccurate to say the least.
@swordandkeyboard Hamilton outpaced Stewart in the cup car, too. It's funny how that works when Stewart and Hamilton both ran their normal cars in the wet then switched when the track was drying out.
If you wan to compare the cars .. well it dosen´t matter but don compare the F1 and nascar, is like compare the f1 with the WRC, they are diferent, and that is all, I like both
Nascar doesn't even come close to F1. Left, left, left, left ooo how exciting stay in top gear and slightly lift ur foot for the corners. I remember jeff Gordon couldn't even get the f1 car rolling on tradin paint.
@cummins24421 Are you retarded? They do have traction control. Obviously. They can even let the clutch slip so that the wheels will spin an EXACT number of times, before the traction control goes back to 10/10.
Anyhow, there's so much power that sometimes the wheels will slip if they race on wet/intermediates, or with fresh tires not warmed up yet.
Circle racing is for the birds, F1 rules simply because I can watch it without getting dizzy.. I see NASCAR as something for kids because of all the cartoons added to the race broadcast. Plus the women of F1 are much more beautiful. The technical aspects of driving an F1 car are obvious that any open-minded race fan. That's why F1 divers are actually Pilots and NASCAR will always be what it is, grass roots racing that's evolved to what it is Not.
fuck you michele rahal I believe montoya who has actually been a pilot of f1 and nascar not you dumbass bitch taking shit from a fucking desktop and not on a cockpit
in my opinion F1 seems a bit more fun. because you have the drafting involved. but you have a more technical track. and they race in the rain. true legends shine in rainy tracks. pure skill
If you take away all of the fancy technology that keeps the Formula 1 cars on track, I might believe that the Formula 1 drivers are more talented. That is not the case.
Also, some of you are just hopeless. KNOW WHAT A CIRCLE IS. NASCAR drivers do not constantly left-hand turn.
@Systemsoff Totally agree with you, they dont.... they also go straight 0_o Except for proper race track races ( wich are few and far between), thats what nascar is about. Fancy technology?? There is no ABS. no Traction con. and no Stability co. sure there is alot of telemetry but there is no tech keeping the car on the road
F1 cars are very technical but that doesnt mean its the best motor sport. Just cos they drive in a circle, nascar is boring? If you were to use these arguments, then drag racing takes no skill and the nurburg 24 hours is the ultimate race. Surely the LMS/ALMS is therefore the pinnacle? Using a similar argument, is kickboxing more skillful than boxing? Does that mean ali, tyson etc are not good fighters? the fact that nascar is being compared to f1 proves they are both impressive
That's true easier for Cup racer to move into F1 then F1 to Cup. A lot of HP in a stock car w/ only two wheels spinning. Tires don't have as much grip and those things are heavy too.Not to mention that NASCAR has a lot of bumper to bumper racing side to side banging. It's really hard. Also NASCAR doesn't rely on the car to win as much as they do in F1. It's the Driver that wins the cup. Not the car.
@evxdaddy Really! are you a hillbilly or what? Nascars have plenty of grip on there 2 quarter mile 30 degree banked turns, Any average driver can bang and bump caged in an oval and its allowed due to the fact that its the only thing that brings people thru the gates, real racing is clean with good lines. f1 employs the best drivers in the world.
Rahal has his head screwed on... u cannot compare NASCAR to F1, totally different styles of racing. Thats like trying to compare the BTCC to Rally cars... it cannot be done. NASCAR is highly competitive, lots of crashes & lets face it, thats what everyone likes. F1 is the pinicle of technology in motorsports. Im a diehard F1 fan but I appreciate NASCAR for what it is... down to earth, grass roots racing
@Suprahampton Everyone likes LOL? i don't like nascar at all,all they race is in a fucking oval track and left turns that makes them so weak ...so you're wrong bout it..F1 than nascar any day.NASCAR is popularized in USA but F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport and is popularized worldwide with 800 million people average watch f1 races.
@KiminiBeia17 As I said, Im a diehard F1 fan but I appreciate NASCAR for what it is, they dont only race on ovals & yes what everyone likes are crashes as well as good honest racing. Recently F1 has had overtaking issues, which they had to set up an "Overtaking working group" for. My point being you cannot compare the two as they're so different
@Suprahampton Nascar has a huge advantage in overtaking cos their tracks is side up by a deep wide straight line followed by a left turn so it makes them easy to overtake.Unlike f1 tracks which drivers are raced by 13-20 left and right turns every 10 secs driven @ 350 km/h..Some my point its difficult to overtake under F1 conditions.
@KiminiBeia17 I agree with you, but NASCAR does have interesting points to it from a racing perspective. A shame as there was plenty of overtaking in F1 years ago, mainly due to alot less aero development
@Suprahampton what are you talking about!!! there is a lot and i mean a lot more overtaking in F1 this year as compared to the previous years. yes, there was a period where the top teams developed way beyond the mid field teams and overtaking was at an all time low (last years monaco gp saw 4 overtakes, almost all by alonso). but this year its different. there were 115 overtakes between 22 cars in the turkish gp. there were more overtakes at the monaco gp than in the last three years combined.
@babak147 Hahaha I agree man, it's so obvious. F1 > Nascar. Americans will never admit that though. Then again, you cannot discuss this with em'. Remember, it's 99% rednecks who watch the Nascar crap.
@aztaclalz I am American and I agree that F1 is better than NASCAR, and there are many who Americans who will say the same. A bit of an ignorant statement, wouldn't you say?
Hello everyone commenting ! Im american and im from florida. I race karts and going to europe to race . Formula 1 is better then Redneck nascar in every single way. End of convo . A chevorlette vs.... A mclaren? Lol not even close . Go Hamilton
they are americans...all they know is how to get fat,lazy,drive slow ugly cars with crome wheels and like cotton-picker music...hahah..aka Hip/hop& R&B
Seriously, give it a rest. F1 is superior to Nascar on every level, that's just how it is. That doesn't necessarily mean driving Nascar och a Pro-level would be easy? Far from it, but compared to F1 - It's kidsplay. What people should compare is Formula 1 versus European Rally. Yes, alot more money and in-depth/the latest of engineering in Formula 1. But skill wise? IMO [<- Not YO, mine] I believe that Rally requires more skill.
Because NASCAR is a boring motorsport.! All you do is go round and round a track with NO skills needed what so ever.But a lot of time for alllll the boooooring 500 laps going the same way to the left..
@hitmannor1983 lol man one time i stayed up to 4am just to see what nascar was and within 5 minutes i fell asleep its just such a boring motorsport somethimes i wonder how nascar fans can watch pieces of american junk go around a race track 500 times.
Why i dont drive Nascar since its so easy? first of all..20-40k Dollars is like pocketchange in F1 compaired.
No and ill rather drive Gokart Kz2 instead of nascar to be honest...Gokart Kz2 is 0-60 in 2,5-2,8sec and need skills to drive..Nascar is easy but as all motorsport its expencive.
There is not a single nascar-driver in the world that could even get to top 10 in F1 in the world cup.
But there are a WHOLE lot F1 drivers who would easy get top 5 in nascar.
@PulletSurprise look mate do u realise why only americans do nascar well thats because its a boring motorsport which only americans care about. how about i break it down into 3 words for u there is no skill no challenge and no fun to nascar.
You must not go outside very often. Britain has had stock car racing since 1954. Like NASCAR competition, it's evolved from old coupes to it's current form of Bangers and BriSCA Formula One Stock Cars.
@PulletSurprise lol u have just proven my point to why f1 is better than stock car racing and nascar thats because stock car drivers in the uk or anywhere in the world even in america do not have skillful drivers. lol if u put the top nascar driver in the seat of a f1 car i bet u that he wouldn't even come in the top 10 of the drivers championship infact i don't even think any nascar driver could make it to formula 1 because f1 drivers have skill unlike drivers who drive in a circle all day.
@UKsniper4 Fucking moron. The man just tells you that they are completely different styles of racing involving completely different variables yet you still try to compare. What a dumbass.
@hitmannor1983 that may not be true. while F1 is no doubt much harder, going from F1 to Nascar could have negative outcomes because going from a machine like an F1 car to a Nascar would be like riding the worlds fastest roller coaster and then trying to enjoy the kiddie rides immediately after. it may not work because the drivers might not be able to get used to driving fast without the forces and their driving skills wouldn't be able to flourish.
nascar is way harder then f1 or indy.nascar doesnt have traction control,launch control orANY grip.they have a smaller tire,weighs twice as much and so many more rules on engine,trans,shocks,springs and gears.im not saying that you can go to indy and win,but im sure(and many drivers have proved it)that going from f1 or indy to a cup car is ways harder.a cup driver will place better in a f1 or indy race then a f1 or indy driver will place in a cup race.
you have to stop taking drugs mister!its not good for you.
Nascar is harder than f1? stop eating heroin please.
More rules than F1 in nascar? hahahahaha
all a fucking nascar is doing is going round and round and freaking round in a ring for 300-500 rounds..!all nascar is, is damn boring and no skill motorsport.
But the best Nascar driver in the US in a ferrari F1 car and put him in the world cup in europe. That would be a embarresing day for nascar.
Research shows that the goldfish is able to live in a small spherical aquarium, because it is extremely stupid, by the time it has done a full circle, it has forgotten everything and starts circling again and again, and again...
Jeff Burton is correct. Light cars are easier to drive than heavier cars. It is easier to transition from heavy to light however a great driver will be fast in anything. They are different disciplines and both are fascinating. I suggest bringing back the Iroc series.
Quick questions for the nascar fans. As i know some elements of F1 Driver, they have to manually brake adjust inbetween corners, weight distrubute, tire lock outs, LIMIT their RPM to conserve fuel, 2 clutch panels etc. How about nascar do they have to do any of these during the race? I mean i've seen some F1 drivers going 180mph EAU ROUGE whilst adjusting brake balance and the suzuka 130R.
@hitmannor1983 If it takes no skills then why didn't jacques villeneuve set the world on fire in nascar immediately? Why didn't JPM win a cup, or at least quite a few races yet? Look, F1 is undoubtedly the most elite and prestigious racing series in the world. But I highly doubt NASCAR drivers are so terrible. And anyway, how'd carl edwards beat michael schumacher at the race of champions in on a road race? I mean, Carl has no skill, right?
Nascar teams in the US cant compete in Formula 1 because the nascar drivers cant handle it! I have driven a REAL nascar and its not walk in the park....but needs no skills except lots of stamina and lots of things to think about when you are going around and around for 500 laps straight..haha..
The best thing is that you americans calls your self "WORLD champions in every sport you play..WHEN the US is the ONLY country in it..hahahahaha...
@hitmannor1983 i beg of you to get you head out of F1's tail. (Look, I watch F1 all the time, and thoroughly enjoy it.) An F1 car is extraordinarily fast and high tech, and stops in a heartbeat. NASCAR cars are heavier, have rather skinny tires, don't turn or stop in a heartbeat, roll their weight a lot, and have no telemetry. The driver has to force the car to do what he/she wants, rather than it being totally in sync as the F1 car is.
You can't compare that to an f22 and a dc3. An f22 would be much easier to fly than a dc3. I mean the dc3 is fly by cable and is old and heavy. The f22 is fly by wire and the flight stability is controlled by computers. It was designed to throw less info at the pilot and was designed to make flying easier. This guys a moron. And NASCAR is fucking gay
Why are u comparing F1 to NASCAR?? You should compare F1 to Indy Race League, and NASCAR to World Grand Tour Chapionship (GT), Super GT.
NASCAR cars are faster in straight line, F1 cars are more for centripetal acceleration, faster in curves. With good setup of gearing and aerodynamic F1 bolids are able reach faster top speed. Oval tracks with a slope are constructed, that cars can reach high top speeds and turn easily than on Oval track with no slope. F1 bolids are faster on no-slope track.
LOL!! Nascar is faster than F1? hahaha...0-60 in 2sec is F1.
And 0-140 and back to 0 in 4,5sec.
And the steeringwheel on a F1 is 500,000dollars!! hahaha..More than a WHOLE nascar..hahaha
F1 takes skills to drive..if you dont have high enough average speed f.example you will not get traction and get thrown of the course...haha..NAScar can NOT be compaird to GT or super GT..since we in europe has curves and no Noob-ring
I agree with 101%, I'm F1 fun, and Honda Super GT fun, but in straight stock NASCAR can run 220mph. F1 bolids with all spoilers can't reach more than 220mph, without wings can reach 270mph (BAR Honda, BMW Williams 2000-2005 engines). Even Super GT cars are faster on real race track than american useless 6 liter engines in their steel cars.
Your numbers are totally wrong. F1 from 2005 accelerate 1.7 s to 100km/h
Steering wheel cost about 30,000 - 40,000 euro €, depends about manufacturer (BMW, Ferrari, Honda, Mercedes, Lotus).
0-140mph F1 doing in 4,5 secs so stop from 140mph to 0 is another 3 secs. Still impressive, but when you have 150,000 -200,000 euros € brakes (carbon-ceramic diamond coated) that's quite good.
Nascar drivers would not be accustomed to actually memorizing the field.Besides,there is a huge budget and power difference between the two,so they are not exactly open to comparison.
@immortalclaws As he said, a DC3 pilot is going to find it harder to fly an F22 fighter than an F22 pilot would find flying a DC3. It's just obvious. So, you don't really have to have a DC3 pilot go to an F22 to know that the F22 would be more difficult. Same applies to F1, and you'd know that if you know anything about F1. Didn't you listen to everything he said?
@omnipotentbeing yes i listened to what said and didnt you read what i said i watch f1 and nascar yes i know f1 is multi million dollar cars but to me all this arguing is left turns vs follow the leader
I like all types of racing, but f1 is boring, only a few on track passes a race, there are some good passes but i hate waiting 2 hours to see it. Nascar can get boring as well but there is always racing on the track to watch. F1 has alot of technology but nascar does as well just a different type of technology, they get the same ammount of horsepower out of a pushrod, naturally asperated engine. Nascar has way more competition, half the feild can win, f1 only a few cars win all season long.
@92tbruck theres is no technology is nascar(they still have manual trans, carburetors, and the cars have no relation to real street cars). its like this, the WWE v. Boxing. which one is more credible as a true fighting competition? nascar is just entertainment(WWE) has no real racing crediblity where as f1, wrc, dtm, touring cars, indy car, moto gp all have modern, innovative technology and compatiblity with cars you can possibly buy some day.
@USCtrojans26 fyi, naturally asperated means caburated, i do agree with you that nascar does not have things that resemble street cars but Nationwide series has new noses on the cars that resemble street cars and i wish they will put that on the cup cars soon. all racing is entertainment, nascar is not fake or put on by people trying to make it a reality tv show, its real racers and real emotions.
Naturally Aspirated means the engine runs on atmospheric pressure instead of using turbo chargers or super chargers to compress the air before sending it into the engine.
Doesn't matter if it's carburated or fuel injected.
@92tbruck and about the passing, please! 99% of the passing in nascar is pointless. look at daytona or talledega, the guy who wins never leads until the last straight, does not ever win another race the rest of the year and is never in contention for the championship and those are the biggest races! i want you to stop thinking like an average white, republican, southern valued american and start to use facts and reality to determine your alliances instead of your personall prejudices n opinions!
@USCtrojans26 talledega and daytona are ristrictor plate tracks, thats why the passing is like what it is, (i dont like those races), the other tracks it is not like that at all. now ur assuming im a white, southerner, republican. im not. facts, what facts have u used? facts are nascar has side by side racing all day long, f1 has the first lap is racing and the rest is strategy racing.i like f1 but its not as racey as nascar.
@92tbruck@92tbruck lets use facts instead of your personal assumptions. in the castrol driver rankings, there are 5 f1 drivers, 2 wrc guys and couple of indy car guys but only 1 nascar guy-jj. the only reason he is in the top 10 because he has won 4 championships in a row in his series which is commendable. but since you are a nascar fan, you probably never heard of this ranking system so here is the link-.look up castrol driver rankings on google
@USCtrojans26 there are 16 nascar drivers in the top 40 on those rankings, i am not fan of nascar, i am a fan of racing. i like f1, a1 gp, irl, wrc ( wish they would put that back on speed channel), moto gp, nhra, nascar, sprint cars, dirt bikes, id watch fucking lawn mowers if they had it on, idc. i just like nascar more because its easier to follow than f1 and its more racey, its on tv the same time every weekend, f1 is very early in the mourning and i never no what time
@92tbruck yeah... turning left is soooooo exciting. but making sure you connect all corners, not deviate from the race line, brake in time, and keep your neck upright at 5 gs is all sooo boring. the only reason nascar seems more competitive is because the technology involved is marginal, and the talent is universally average.
@aliesneo well that is just where you and me differ, i enjoy circle track racing, racing 600 miles in a car that 150 degrees and sliding in the corners at over 150mph with 42 others is not hard at all, since f1 drivers are so much more talented it really surprises me that all the f1 stars to ever race in nascar in all series only have 1 win. we could argue all day over witch one takes more talent, but i feel it pointless to compare them in that aspect, they are exactly opposite types of racing.
montoya was an underachieving, whining, and annoying in f1. he didn't win many races or a world championship so thats why he went to nascar, because he wasn't good enough in f1 and mclaren was probably going to let him go to make room for lewis hamilton. and in nascar he races for a bad team so thats why he hasn't won there either. jimmie johnson(best driver in nascar) is terrible, just look at is result in the rally car in the xgames, he sucked! MS or Alonso are so much more talented.
how do you know he has never raced f1, mabe he would be good, why was williams so interested in jeff gordon after he swaped cars with juan pablo at indy.
F1 driver in NASCAR- Cant make a good lap time because they cant handle the fact that a cup car wont turn as well as a f1 car, wont accelerate like a cup car, and arent used to having 42 other cars around him all the time. You dont have balls until you have gone 3 wide at Talladega. Montoya has the balls, that is why he is the only on to come from F1 to NASCAR and has one a single cup race (at a road coarse, yes, there are road courses in NASCAR, the rest are OVALS, for those who think CIRCLES
well, please watch my video for another take on this theme.
redlineamerica 2 weeks ago
If Jeff Burton REALLY wanted to know which was easier all he had to do was ask Jeff Gordon since in 2003 Gordon tested Montoya's Williams at Indy. That would've been an accurate explaination
Suprahampton 2 months ago
True. But without FIA stupid traction control, it would be even harder. I mean, NASCAR drivers would be good F1 drivers, but would be slow compared to the likes of Alonso and Hamilton.
yowyOw69 4 months ago
@yowyOw69 there is no TC in F1 anymore, to become an F1 driver you have to start driving karts and then go to the smaller formulas like Renault or Nissan...
I cant think of any NASCAR driver who wouldnt be beaten to the ground even by Karthikeyan...
Semeiron 3 months ago 2
@H3Forge yeah so fun watching cars go round an oval for a few hours yeah.......gtfo
XSimboJonesX 6 months ago
NASCAR just god damn sucks!!!! anyone can drive fast, but only a few can handle state-of-the-art machines through curves and turns as efficiently as an F1 pilot (not driver as in NASCAR)!!!!!... simple as that!
hgfrias 7 months ago
@hgfrias
Oh my god..
Another typical "ooh look at us, superior technology, pilot, bla bla bla" NASCAR is grass roots racing, old school fun, who gives a fuck about superior technology? It's all about the fun of the racing. And pilot? It's called a driver buddy, pilots fly planes...
H3Forge 7 months ago
@H3Forge well actually u could call a driver a pilot. actually all country's do but North America. F1 has better drivers, better cars, better tracks, and better technology. u guys are even scared to race in rain u fuckin pussies! moto gp races in rain ya know.
and speaking of fun, how the hell is 3 hours of left, left, left fun? ur another "dale jr. and beer! go america!"
shutup only america is dumb enough to race ovals. no one but the hillbilly's like it!
Ferrari123planb 6 months ago
@Ferrari123planb
It's funny how ignorant foreigners truly are using typical stereotypes. NASCAR has done rain races before. Stock Cars are built for dry ovals, not rain. Keep using the Hillbilly left turn stereotypes, it's the only thing you have right? Can't say anything else? I'd rather watch "Left Turn Circles" than Follow the Leader all the time.
Other countries races ovals dumbshit, I can't get over the sheer ignorance in your comment. Better drivers? Why does Juan suck ass in NASCAR?
H3Forge 6 months ago
@H3Forge lol u dont use steriotypes mr. "follow the leader". and stop talking about "steriotypes" in general. no other countrys primarily dont focus on ovals. they may have oval tracks like motegi, but all race series out side of america are focused on road courses.
why does jaun suck in nascar? ill tell u why. not his style of racing. he grew up in open wheel, and one seaters, racing karts. he wasnt raised for oval racing. and why is there no nascar drivers is F1? please, reply.
Ferrari123planb 6 months ago
@H3Forge uhh dont reply or talk to me. just seen ur channel, ur last favorited vid is the national anthem song, and u have uploaded pokemon vids. dont even talk to me kid. u dont know ur racing. and u seem the typical american nascar fan. cant argue with someone that does right turns twice a year!
Ferrari123planb 6 months ago
@Ferrari123planb
So what? The song kicks ass? And a lot of people still play Pokemon. I don't play it anymore, but Pokemon will always be an awesome childhood memory.
Typical American? Lmao is that all you can come up with? Please? Get back to your Fragile wanna be bumble bees. Don't call me a kid when you obviously can't type or come up with a valid argument you Dumb Fuck
H3Forge 6 months ago
@H3Forge i cant come up with an argument? why is it that in the last 15 years no Nascar driver has been able to join F1? why has there been F1 drivers being able to go in Nascar. how is oval racing, hard and how is it challenging? why do they do 2 road courses? why dont they race in rain, when Moto GP even races in rain? why are they not racing at watkins glenn when its raining? moto gp, F1, any other sport would race in rain. how are we follow the leader when johnson has won 5 in a row? answer
Ferrari123planb 6 months ago
Ferrari123planb - Ok, pussy-blocking little bitch. Let me own you on another topic. You know in NASCAR, the cars weigh over 3,400 lbs. That's heavy for a competition racing car, so taking corners is a lot harder then you think. It's hard keeping the car steady, not trying to lose the rear end in such a heavy car, when you have other cars at least 2" away from you at all directions. Not to mention they have the same job as every other driver does, so shut the fuck up and do your research, faggot.
ErosaScuderia 6 months ago
@ErosaScuderia lmao, i love when ur mad! trololololol. nascar sucks and is easy!
Ferrari123planb 6 months ago
Nobody here is mad, you stupid little cunt. You like it when I'm mad? No, get the fuck out. You like when you get owned, apparently. It's just that easy to own the shit out of you. When you get completely owned like now, you call it a troll win. That's because you're stupid, and an unintelligent faggot. Why don't you try NASCAR then, if it's so easy? NASCAR sucks, but it's better then F1. Better then F1 for the last decade, and on.
The only mad person is you, replying to me. BUTTHURT! UMADBRO?
ErosaScuderia 6 months ago
@ErosaScuderia i love mad hillbillys xD
Ferrari123planb 6 months ago
I'm Latino, you dumbass.
And nice job incorporating "xD" into your comment. How old are you, 12? GO play Viva Pinata or something. I bet you're not even old enough to drive.
ErosaScuderia 6 months ago
@ErosaScuderia your profile says your american lol, your a hillbilly.
Ferrari123planb 6 months ago
"Your a hillbilly?" ... Well, you're (the proper term) a dumbass. Just because I live in America, it doesn't automatically make me a "hillbilly." Why don't YOU stop stereotyping, you homo? You're bitching about stereotypes, but you're stereotyping yourself.
Where do you live at, kid? I'll send you a rope and a chair so you can go hang yourself. I'm pretty sure we can use the earth space. =)
ErosaScuderia 6 months ago
@ErosaScuderia ok, send a rope to 1212 boogie avenue, have fun with left turns, and beer. now exuse me im gonna go watch some porn..
Ferrari123planb 6 months ago
Wow...
ErosaScuderia 6 months ago
@ErosaScuderia yup, i love porn
Ferrari123planb 6 months ago
Who doesn't?
ErosaScuderia 6 months ago
@ErosaScuderia lol
Ferrari123planb 6 months ago
Jesus Christ, why are you arguing with this dumb piece of shit? I already argued with that guy on another topic, and completely dropped the argument after I completely owned him, and blocked me. He's a butthurt little pussy. Just move on, and let this kid be.
ErosaScuderia 6 months ago
This guy is right F1 dose take more skill and if I want to see a stock car customised to race spec ill watch v8 supercars it actualy has some right hand turns
m00seimu5 7 months ago
I could not agree more with this video. And who said the Cup Driver outlaped Hamilton on his F1 car, are you crazy, he was 8 seconds slower p/lap and in F1 8 Seconds is like 2 days with don't know.
danrodrigues 7 months ago
heyMichelle,
is that why tony steward out lapped Hamilton last week at Watkins Glenn using Hamilton's f1 car?. just saying :)
with name like michelle maybe you should talk about tea or crumpets
swordandkeyboard 8 months ago
@swordandkeyboard seriously? Hamilton went out in wet conditions, then stewart set his lap on a drying track..... Do Nascars even run regularly in the rain? If Stewart was even remotely close in raw pace compared to Lewis Hamilton, he'd be offered 30 odd million dollars a year and an instant move to F1, as it stands, while i'm impressed he kept it out of the wall, I'd be more impressed if he were able actually get into F1 cars up and down the paddock following a proper seat fitting...
rb118118 8 months ago
@rb118118 I don't even really like Stewart to much but he is twice Hamilton age don't forget and has championship in indy and nascar. Let us not look down on nascar drivers. Everyone said how Montoya was going to do in Nascar. He could not even win a Busch championship yet a cup championship. Kiki did okay in his truck debut.Problem with F1 there are to many guys standing around under the umbrellas and not enough Jackie Stewart's or Nigel's, Mario's or Jaq's anymore. Too many pampered drivers.
swordandkeyboard 7 months ago
@swordandkeyboard That's a much better comment than your previous one. Can't argue with much of that bar the pampered drivers comment, which is inaccurate to say the least.
rb118118 7 months ago
@swordandkeyboard Hamilton outpaced Stewart in the cup car, too. It's funny how that works when Stewart and Hamilton both ran their normal cars in the wet then switched when the track was drying out.
gturner38 7 months ago
@gturner38 i think Hamilton is one of the guys that could race anything.
swordandkeyboard 7 months ago
well i wish i cold hear the growl of a big block v8 at 20,000 rpm. f1 cars sound like weed wackers
goford90 8 months ago
If you wan to compare the cars .. well it dosen´t matter but don compare the F1 and nascar, is like compare the f1 with the WRC, they are diferent, and that is all, I like both
madjh8 8 months ago
AMEN
hchaugen 8 months ago
the ndiffrence between nascar and f1 f1 is worldwide nascar is well ummm american half the sports in america are not worldwide
ragasdapper 8 months ago
nacar shit chump car shit f1 rules
ragasdapper 8 months ago
51 Americans disliked hearing the truth.
Porrly 8 months ago
So stop being stubborn and just accept nascar is not the pinnacle of racing
dirtyp46 8 months ago
Nascar doesn't even come close to F1. Left, left, left, left ooo how exciting stay in top gear and slightly lift ur foot for the corners. I remember jeff Gordon couldn't even get the f1 car rolling on tradin paint.
dirtyp46 8 months ago
just a small niggle here: f1 cars dont have traction control.
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hchaugen 8 months ago
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@cummins24421 Are you retarded? They do have traction control. Obviously. They can even let the clutch slip so that the wheels will spin an EXACT number of times, before the traction control goes back to 10/10.
Anyhow, there's so much power that sometimes the wheels will slip if they race on wet/intermediates, or with fresh tires not warmed up yet.
hchaugen 8 months ago
One thing you cant do in F1, BEATIN N BANGIN
18sux29rox 10 months ago
@18sux29rox theres a guy id like to introduce you to, his name is michael shumacher
cummins24421 9 months ago
@cummins24421 ok? Im saying you cant do beatin and bangin racing in F1, open wheels cars you'll just hook wheels and crash or flip.
18sux29rox 9 months ago
Yes, F1 has 100% more show than nascar, buz americans r looking for crashes and blood, the same diferences like in european football and american
rukrichard 10 months ago
@rukrichard Rugby has no protection... but I get your point. And its called football; not European football lol (from a global standpoint of course).
tall757 10 months ago
Actually, NASCAR uses 15% ethanol fuel. Undoubtedly, F1 is a lot more advanced in technology either way.
Phinphan57 10 months ago
NASCAR is a world apart from Formula One. Both are enormously popular but they sit at opposite ends of the motor sport spectrum.
Nascar still runs on leaded petrol. F1 cars are way more advanced and high tech.
M4nBearFrog 10 months ago
@M4nBearFrog nope nascar uses ethanol
goford90 8 months ago
lol. shifting gears with buttons. they are called paddle shifts sunshine.
MrRunforyourlife 10 months ago
@MrRunforyourlife talk about high tech to an american, they drive in circles, I mean WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT LOL
rukrichard 10 months ago
@rukrichard haha. nice one mate. cheers. but microsoft was from america too. its a fact we cannot forget :)
MrRunforyourlife 10 months ago
Circle racing is for the birds, F1 rules simply because I can watch it without getting dizzy.. I see NASCAR as something for kids because of all the cartoons added to the race broadcast. Plus the women of F1 are much more beautiful. The technical aspects of driving an F1 car are obvious that any open-minded race fan. That's why F1 divers are actually Pilots and NASCAR will always be what it is, grass roots racing that's evolved to what it is Not.
dave7222 11 months ago
fuck you michele rahal I believe montoya who has actually been a pilot of f1 and nascar not you dumbass bitch taking shit from a fucking desktop and not on a cockpit
kuraimauri 11 months ago
in my opinion F1 seems a bit more fun. because you have the drafting involved. but you have a more technical track. and they race in the rain. true legends shine in rainy tracks. pure skill
casketgrind 1 year ago
F1 IS HARDEST AND BETTER BUT NASCAR HAVE A GOOD NOISE
flymanwebster 1 year ago
f1 is a lot harder now no traction control..
MrGetdrunkortrydying 1 year ago
If you take away all of the fancy technology that keeps the Formula 1 cars on track, I might believe that the Formula 1 drivers are more talented. That is not the case.
Also, some of you are just hopeless. KNOW WHAT A CIRCLE IS. NASCAR drivers do not constantly left-hand turn.
Systemsoff 1 year ago
@Systemsoff Totally agree with you, they dont.... they also go straight 0_o Except for proper race track races ( wich are few and far between), thats what nascar is about. Fancy technology?? There is no ABS. no Traction con. and no Stability co. sure there is alot of telemetry but there is no tech keeping the car on the road
bwchudy95 1 year ago
f1 is far more difficult than nascar.
not that it is not an enjoyable sport, however.
my view is that if anyone in any motorsport gets to race in f1, it is a GRADUATION to a higher class.
like going from gt2 to gt1. or club racing to real scca racing.
f1 is the pinacle, and the drivers are a sharp as they can possibly be.
if you can race f1, you can race anything.
TheNondiscriminatory 1 year ago
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DaHakaRulz 1 year ago
if we take away the cars... nascar is still a bunch of left hand turns
MrGrogs901 1 year ago
i would'nt say 28 in f1 is shelf life button 30,mark webber 34, rubens barichello 38, alonso is about 30,schumacher 42 the list goes on.
nachospole1 1 year ago
Thanks....Michele
Slotten68 1 year ago
I enjoyed NASCAR until SPEED started to shove it up my throat every day.
Reyboomboom1 1 year ago
F1 cars are very technical but that doesnt mean its the best motor sport. Just cos they drive in a circle, nascar is boring? If you were to use these arguments, then drag racing takes no skill and the nurburg 24 hours is the ultimate race. Surely the LMS/ALMS is therefore the pinnacle? Using a similar argument, is kickboxing more skillful than boxing? Does that mean ali, tyson etc are not good fighters? the fact that nascar is being compared to f1 proves they are both impressive
mbhmob 1 year ago
Real Race Fans Like All Types Of Racing, Not Just One
CockpitRacer 1 year ago 35
@CockpitRacer More importantly race fans dont hate any type of racing, but they have their preferences.
PorscheDauer962LM 1 year ago
@CockpitRacer Not true
babak147 5 months ago
That's true easier for Cup racer to move into F1 then F1 to Cup. A lot of HP in a stock car w/ only two wheels spinning. Tires don't have as much grip and those things are heavy too.Not to mention that NASCAR has a lot of bumper to bumper racing side to side banging. It's really hard. Also NASCAR doesn't rely on the car to win as much as they do in F1. It's the Driver that wins the cup. Not the car.
evxdaddy 1 year ago
@evxdaddy Really! are you a hillbilly or what? Nascars have plenty of grip on there 2 quarter mile 30 degree banked turns, Any average driver can bang and bump caged in an oval and its allowed due to the fact that its the only thing that brings people thru the gates, real racing is clean with good lines. f1 employs the best drivers in the world.
ultimtsacrifice 1 year ago 2
Rahal has his head screwed on... u cannot compare NASCAR to F1, totally different styles of racing. Thats like trying to compare the BTCC to Rally cars... it cannot be done. NASCAR is highly competitive, lots of crashes & lets face it, thats what everyone likes. F1 is the pinicle of technology in motorsports. Im a diehard F1 fan but I appreciate NASCAR for what it is... down to earth, grass roots racing
Suprahampton 1 year ago 13
@Suprahampton nascar is shit, I wonder whats on americans head, IF...
rukrichard 10 months ago
@Suprahampton Everyone likes LOL? i don't like nascar at all,all they race is in a fucking oval track and left turns that makes them so weak ...so you're wrong bout it..F1 than nascar any day.NASCAR is popularized in USA but F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport and is popularized worldwide with 800 million people average watch f1 races.
KiminiBeia17 10 months ago
@KiminiBeia17 As I said, Im a diehard F1 fan but I appreciate NASCAR for what it is, they dont only race on ovals & yes what everyone likes are crashes as well as good honest racing. Recently F1 has had overtaking issues, which they had to set up an "Overtaking working group" for. My point being you cannot compare the two as they're so different
Suprahampton 10 months ago
@Suprahampton Nascar has a huge advantage in overtaking cos their tracks is side up by a deep wide straight line followed by a left turn so it makes them easy to overtake.Unlike f1 tracks which drivers are raced by 13-20 left and right turns every 10 secs driven @ 350 km/h..Some my point its difficult to overtake under F1 conditions.
KiminiBeia17 10 months ago
@KiminiBeia17 I agree with you, but NASCAR does have interesting points to it from a racing perspective. A shame as there was plenty of overtaking in F1 years ago, mainly due to alot less aero development
Suprahampton 10 months ago
@Suprahampton HAVE U SEEN F1 LATLEY THERE IS OVERTAKING EVERY RACE
dojOdRiFTeR 9 months ago
@Suprahampton what are you talking about!!! there is a lot and i mean a lot more overtaking in F1 this year as compared to the previous years. yes, there was a period where the top teams developed way beyond the mid field teams and overtaking was at an all time low (last years monaco gp saw 4 overtakes, almost all by alonso). but this year its different. there were 115 overtakes between 22 cars in the turkish gp. there were more overtakes at the monaco gp than in the last three years combined.
aliesneo 8 months ago
@Suprahampton You are not a F1 fan , You are a Nascar fan pretending to be a F1 fan.
babak147 5 months ago
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@babak147 You have no idea what you're talking about if you think that
Suprahampton 5 months ago
@babak147 Hahaha I agree man, it's so obvious. F1 > Nascar. Americans will never admit that though. Then again, you cannot discuss this with em'. Remember, it's 99% rednecks who watch the Nascar crap.
aztaclalz 5 months ago
@aztaclalz I am American and I agree that F1 is better than NASCAR, and there are many who Americans who will say the same. A bit of an ignorant statement, wouldn't you say?
IrishR3v0luti0n 2 months ago
Hello everyone commenting ! Im american and im from florida. I race karts and going to europe to race . Formula 1 is better then Redneck nascar in every single way. End of convo . A chevorlette vs.... A mclaren? Lol not even close . Go Hamilton
holidaylobster 1 year ago
@holidaylobster YES PAL, COME UP HERE :)
rukrichard 10 months ago
@UKsniper4
hehe..agree..
they are americans...all they know is how to get fat,lazy,drive slow ugly cars with crome wheels and like cotton-picker music...hahah..aka Hip/hop& R&B
hitmannor1983 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983 lol american cars can't turn corners FACT!
UKsniper4 1 year ago
NASCAR LOL. Turning left in a chevrolet for 4 hours.
moey320 1 year ago
European Rally is top of the food chain when it comes to skill.
stew2255 1 year ago
@stew2255
Correct.
F1 is the highest level or motorsport... on a closed course.
WRC is where the real driver's drivers are.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
Seriously, give it a rest. F1 is superior to Nascar on every level, that's just how it is. That doesn't necessarily mean driving Nascar och a Pro-level would be easy? Far from it, but compared to F1 - It's kidsplay. What people should compare is Formula 1 versus European Rally. Yes, alot more money and in-depth/the latest of engineering in Formula 1. But skill wise? IMO [<- Not YO, mine] I believe that Rally requires more skill.
aztaclalz 1 year ago
@deman13
haha! it fails? so wich numbers fail if i may ask.Please do tell.Yes i drive Kz2 and yes 20-40k dollars is NOTHING in F1
hitmannor1983 1 year ago
@pulletsurprise
Because NASCAR is a boring motorsport.! All you do is go round and round a track with NO skills needed what so ever.But a lot of time for alllll the boooooring 500 laps going the same way to the left..
Zzzzzzz
hitmannor1983 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983 it is what u call going around the bend
narsplace 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983
Except that road courses happen, which are the only things that the F1 drivers in NASCAR Cup series seem to be any good at.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983 lol man one time i stayed up to 4am just to see what nascar was and within 5 minutes i fell asleep its just such a boring motorsport somethimes i wonder how nascar fans can watch pieces of american junk go around a race track 500 times.
UKsniper4 1 year ago
@PulletSurprise
Why i dont drive Nascar since its so easy? first of all..20-40k Dollars is like pocketchange in F1 compaired.
No and ill rather drive Gokart Kz2 instead of nascar to be honest...Gokart Kz2 is 0-60 in 2,5-2,8sec and need skills to drive..Nascar is easy but as all motorsport its expencive.
There is not a single nascar-driver in the world that could even get to top 10 in F1 in the world cup.
But there are a WHOLE lot F1 drivers who would easy get top 5 in nascar.
hitmannor1983 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983
Buy a Legends car and work your way up. You can run an entire track's season of 10+ races for less than $5000.
Like I said, if it's so easy, then why aren't there thousands of dirt track weekenders lining up for Cup series drives?
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
@PulletSurprise look mate do u realise why only americans do nascar well thats because its a boring motorsport which only americans care about. how about i break it down into 3 words for u there is no skill no challenge and no fun to nascar.
UKsniper4 1 year ago
@UKsniper4
You must not go outside very often. Britain has had stock car racing since 1954. Like NASCAR competition, it's evolved from old coupes to it's current form of Bangers and BriSCA Formula One Stock Cars.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
@PulletSurprise lol u have just proven my point to why f1 is better than stock car racing and nascar thats because stock car drivers in the uk or anywhere in the world even in america do not have skillful drivers. lol if u put the top nascar driver in the seat of a f1 car i bet u that he wouldn't even come in the top 10 of the drivers championship infact i don't even think any nascar driver could make it to formula 1 because f1 drivers have skill unlike drivers who drive in a circle all day.
UKsniper4 1 year ago
@UKsniper4 Fucking moron. The man just tells you that they are completely different styles of racing involving completely different variables yet you still try to compare. What a dumbass.
SpraxIAKS 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983 that may not be true. while F1 is no doubt much harder, going from F1 to Nascar could have negative outcomes because going from a machine like an F1 car to a Nascar would be like riding the worlds fastest roller coaster and then trying to enjoy the kiddie rides immediately after. it may not work because the drivers might not be able to get used to driving fast without the forces and their driving skills wouldn't be able to flourish.
deman13 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983
"There is not a single nascar-driver in the world that could even get to top 10 in F1 in the world cup."
What about Montoya?
CockpitRacer 1 year ago
@CockpitRacer he looked like a beginner next to raikkonnen in the same team...but of course there are always some drives who have what it takes
SoLazy100 1 year ago
nascar is way harder then f1 or indy.nascar doesnt have traction control,launch control orANY grip.they have a smaller tire,weighs twice as much and so many more rules on engine,trans,shocks,springs and gears.im not saying that you can go to indy and win,but im sure(and many drivers have proved it)that going from f1 or indy to a cup car is ways harder.a cup driver will place better in a f1 or indy race then a f1 or indy driver will place in a cup race.
glynnracing79 1 year ago
@glynnracing79
hahahahahahahahahahahahah
you have to stop taking drugs mister!its not good for you.
Nascar is harder than f1? stop eating heroin please.
More rules than F1 in nascar? hahahahaha
all a fucking nascar is doing is going round and round and freaking round in a ring for 300-500 rounds..!all nascar is, is damn boring and no skill motorsport.
But the best Nascar driver in the US in a ferrari F1 car and put him in the world cup in europe. That would be a embarresing day for nascar.
hitmannor1983 1 year ago
@glynnracing79
F1 hasn't had TC since the end of 2007 or Launch Control since the end of 2004.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
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Research shows that the goldfish is able to live in a small spherical aquarium, because it is extremely stupid, by the time it has done a full circle, it has forgotten everything and starts circling again and again, and again...
Now I see why Americans love NASCAR.
FcukShetUp 1 year ago
@FcukShetUp don't judge all of us Americans on the "sport" of Nascar. we're not all into fat rednecks driving left for 4 hours haha
deman13 1 year ago
Jeff Burton is correct. Light cars are easier to drive than heavier cars. It is easier to transition from heavy to light however a great driver will be fast in anything. They are different disciplines and both are fascinating. I suggest bringing back the Iroc series.
43JohnDeere 1 year ago
Quick questions for the nascar fans. As i know some elements of F1 Driver, they have to manually brake adjust inbetween corners, weight distrubute, tire lock outs, LIMIT their RPM to conserve fuel, 2 clutch panels etc. How about nascar do they have to do any of these during the race? I mean i've seen some F1 drivers going 180mph EAU ROUGE whilst adjusting brake balance and the suzuka 130R.
Claymore2408 1 year ago
GTRF1V8!
F1 is like that:)
Nascar takes no skills and everybody with some cash can do good in that sport.
hitmannor1983 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983 If it takes no skills then why didn't jacques villeneuve set the world on fire in nascar immediately? Why didn't JPM win a cup, or at least quite a few races yet? Look, F1 is undoubtedly the most elite and prestigious racing series in the world. But I highly doubt NASCAR drivers are so terrible. And anyway, how'd carl edwards beat michael schumacher at the race of champions in on a road race? I mean, Carl has no skill, right?
GTRF1V8 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983 you are a complete tool if you think that.
glynnracing79 1 year ago
Totally wrong mister...A steeringwheel in f.example Formul 1 ferrari car is: over 150.000-250,000 Dollars.
Ref: Ferrari
hitmannor1983 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983
Maybe if you add all of the wheels built during a season up between both drivers.
Most teams' wheels cost $20,000 to $40,000 to develop and build.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
Nascar teams in the US cant compete in Formula 1 because the nascar drivers cant handle it! I have driven a REAL nascar and its not walk in the park....but needs no skills except lots of stamina and lots of things to think about when you are going around and around for 500 laps straight..haha..
The best thing is that you americans calls your self "WORLD champions in every sport you play..WHEN the US is the ONLY country in it..hahahahaha...
Formula 1 takes skills...nascar is for old ladys
hitmannor1983 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983 i beg of you to get you head out of F1's tail. (Look, I watch F1 all the time, and thoroughly enjoy it.) An F1 car is extraordinarily fast and high tech, and stops in a heartbeat. NASCAR cars are heavier, have rather skinny tires, don't turn or stop in a heartbeat, roll their weight a lot, and have no telemetry. The driver has to force the car to do what he/she wants, rather than it being totally in sync as the F1 car is.
GTRF1V8 1 year ago
Why not organize a competion where Formula 1 and Nascar cars race.
It would be more fun to see more different type cars.
hopala007 1 year ago
@hopala007
Agree:) would be fun:)
hitmannor1983 1 year ago
You can't compare that to an f22 and a dc3. An f22 would be much easier to fly than a dc3. I mean the dc3 is fly by cable and is old and heavy. The f22 is fly by wire and the flight stability is controlled by computers. It was designed to throw less info at the pilot and was designed to make flying easier. This guys a moron. And NASCAR is fucking gay
gypsykingg 1 year ago
@gypsykingg NASCAR is fucking gay? Define gay.
RedzDevilz 1 year ago
this is like comparing which is better:
Football vs American football
070erwin 1 year ago
imo nascar sucks
070erwin 1 year ago
Why are u comparing F1 to NASCAR?? You should compare F1 to Indy Race League, and NASCAR to World Grand Tour Chapionship (GT), Super GT.
NASCAR cars are faster in straight line, F1 cars are more for centripetal acceleration, faster in curves. With good setup of gearing and aerodynamic F1 bolids are able reach faster top speed. Oval tracks with a slope are constructed, that cars can reach high top speeds and turn easily than on Oval track with no slope. F1 bolids are faster on no-slope track.
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
@2jzgtejza80 agreed
immortalclaws 1 year ago
@2jzgtejza80 how can nascar be faster in straight lines when they have worse acceleration and worse top speed
PtoKaze13 1 year ago
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@PtoKaze13
Read my post again, and you will understand what I want to say.
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
@2jzgtejza80
LOL!! Nascar is faster than F1? hahaha...0-60 in 2sec is F1.
And 0-140 and back to 0 in 4,5sec.
And the steeringwheel on a F1 is 500,000dollars!! hahaha..More than a WHOLE nascar..hahaha
F1 takes skills to drive..if you dont have high enough average speed f.example you will not get traction and get thrown of the course...haha..NAScar can NOT be compaird to GT or super GT..since we in europe has curves and no Noob-ring
hitmannor1983 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983
I agree with 101%, I'm F1 fun, and Honda Super GT fun, but in straight stock NASCAR can run 220mph. F1 bolids with all spoilers can't reach more than 220mph, without wings can reach 270mph (BAR Honda, BMW Williams 2000-2005 engines). Even Super GT cars are faster on real race track than american useless 6 liter engines in their steel cars.
Your numbers are totally wrong. F1 from 2005 accelerate 1.7 s to 100km/h
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983
Steering wheel cost about 30,000 - 40,000 euro €, depends about manufacturer (BMW, Ferrari, Honda, Mercedes, Lotus).
0-140mph F1 doing in 4,5 secs so stop from 140mph to 0 is another 3 secs. Still impressive, but when you have 150,000 -200,000 euros € brakes (carbon-ceramic diamond coated) that's quite good.
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
@hitmannor1983 your numbers fail.....haha.
deman13 1 year ago
Nascar drivers would not be accustomed to actually memorizing the field.Besides,there is a huge budget and power difference between the two,so they are not exactly open to comparison.
Deathseeker214 1 year ago
@Deathseeker214
Power difference in what way? Maybe it's the part where engines in Cup cars crank out nearly 200 HP more than the engines in F1 cars, these days...
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
i dont think we should say which is harder since a nascar driver has never gone to f1 so until that day you all are arguing over nothing
immortalclaws 1 year ago
@immortalclaws As he said, a DC3 pilot is going to find it harder to fly an F22 fighter than an F22 pilot would find flying a DC3. It's just obvious. So, you don't really have to have a DC3 pilot go to an F22 to know that the F22 would be more difficult. Same applies to F1, and you'd know that if you know anything about F1. Didn't you listen to everything he said?
omnipotentbeing 1 year ago
@omnipotentbeing yes i listened to what said and didnt you read what i said i watch f1 and nascar yes i know f1 is multi million dollar cars but to me all this arguing is left turns vs follow the leader
immortalclaws 1 year ago
@immortalclaws
Dan Gurney went back and forth. As did Mario Andretti and Mark Donohue.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
I like all types of racing, but f1 is boring, only a few on track passes a race, there are some good passes but i hate waiting 2 hours to see it. Nascar can get boring as well but there is always racing on the track to watch. F1 has alot of technology but nascar does as well just a different type of technology, they get the same ammount of horsepower out of a pushrod, naturally asperated engine. Nascar has way more competition, half the feild can win, f1 only a few cars win all season long.
92tbruck 1 year ago
@92tbruck theres is no technology is nascar(they still have manual trans, carburetors, and the cars have no relation to real street cars). its like this, the WWE v. Boxing. which one is more credible as a true fighting competition? nascar is just entertainment(WWE) has no real racing crediblity where as f1, wrc, dtm, touring cars, indy car, moto gp all have modern, innovative technology and compatiblity with cars you can possibly buy some day.
USCtrojans26 1 year ago
@USCtrojans26 fyi, naturally asperated means caburated, i do agree with you that nascar does not have things that resemble street cars but Nationwide series has new noses on the cars that resemble street cars and i wish they will put that on the cup cars soon. all racing is entertainment, nascar is not fake or put on by people trying to make it a reality tv show, its real racers and real emotions.
92tbruck 1 year ago
@92tbruck
Naturally Aspirated means the engine runs on atmospheric pressure instead of using turbo chargers or super chargers to compress the air before sending it into the engine.
Doesn't matter if it's carburated or fuel injected.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
@USCtrojans26
They have those things because that's the rules. F1 has their things because the rules allow it.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
@92tbruck and about the passing, please! 99% of the passing in nascar is pointless. look at daytona or talledega, the guy who wins never leads until the last straight, does not ever win another race the rest of the year and is never in contention for the championship and those are the biggest races! i want you to stop thinking like an average white, republican, southern valued american and start to use facts and reality to determine your alliances instead of your personall prejudices n opinions!
USCtrojans26 1 year ago
@USCtrojans26 talledega and daytona are ristrictor plate tracks, thats why the passing is like what it is, (i dont like those races), the other tracks it is not like that at all. now ur assuming im a white, southerner, republican. im not. facts, what facts have u used? facts are nascar has side by side racing all day long, f1 has the first lap is racing and the rest is strategy racing.i like f1 but its not as racey as nascar.
92tbruck 1 year ago
@92tbruck @92tbruck lets use facts instead of your personal assumptions. in the castrol driver rankings, there are 5 f1 drivers, 2 wrc guys and couple of indy car guys but only 1 nascar guy-jj. the only reason he is in the top 10 because he has won 4 championships in a row in his series which is commendable. but since you are a nascar fan, you probably never heard of this ranking system so here is the link-.look up castrol driver rankings on google
USCtrojans26 1 year ago
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92tbruck 1 year ago
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@USCtrojans26 there are 16 nascar drivers in the top 40 on those rankings, i am not fan of nascar, i am a fan of racing. i like f1, a1 gp, irl, wrc ( wish they would put that back on speed channel), moto gp, nhra, nascar, sprint cars, dirt bikes, id watch fucking lawn mowers if they had it on, idc. i just like nascar more because its easier to follow than f1 and its more racey, its on tv the same time every weekend, f1 is very early in the mourning and i never no what time
92tbruck 1 year ago
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MurphyMonster 1 year ago
@MurphyMonster
Getting a pushrod V8 to crank out 900 BHP for 4 hours at 9000+ RPM sounds pretty technological to me.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
@USCtrojans26 I also cant wait for Lame Kitten to get his ass handed to him in the PAC-10 as well as the SEC. Trojans my ass.
MurphyMonster 1 year ago
@92tbruck yeah... turning left is soooooo exciting. but making sure you connect all corners, not deviate from the race line, brake in time, and keep your neck upright at 5 gs is all sooo boring. the only reason nascar seems more competitive is because the technology involved is marginal, and the talent is universally average.
aliesneo 1 year ago
@aliesneo well that is just where you and me differ, i enjoy circle track racing, racing 600 miles in a car that 150 degrees and sliding in the corners at over 150mph with 42 others is not hard at all, since f1 drivers are so much more talented it really surprises me that all the f1 stars to ever race in nascar in all series only have 1 win. we could argue all day over witch one takes more talent, but i feel it pointless to compare them in that aspect, they are exactly opposite types of racing.
92tbruck 1 year ago
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92tbruck 1 year ago
montoya was an underachieving, whining, and annoying in f1. he didn't win many races or a world championship so thats why he went to nascar, because he wasn't good enough in f1 and mclaren was probably going to let him go to make room for lewis hamilton. and in nascar he races for a bad team so thats why he hasn't won there either. jimmie johnson(best driver in nascar) is terrible, just look at is result in the rally car in the xgames, he sucked! MS or Alonso are so much more talented.
USCtrojans26 1 year ago
@USCtrojans26 jimmie never raced rally x. If you are talking about ROC, he won the 2001 nations cup
92tbruck 1 year ago
@92tbruck he race in the x-games couple of years back. but put him in a f1 car and he would be worse than the entire HRT team in f1.
USCtrojans26 1 year ago
how do you know he has never raced f1, mabe he would be good, why was williams so interested in jeff gordon after he swaped cars with juan pablo at indy.
92tbruck 1 year ago
F1 driver in NASCAR- Cant make a good lap time because they cant handle the fact that a cup car wont turn as well as a f1 car, wont accelerate like a cup car, and arent used to having 42 other cars around him all the time. You dont have balls until you have gone 3 wide at Talladega. Montoya has the balls, that is why he is the only on to come from F1 to NASCAR and has one a single cup race (at a road coarse, yes, there are road courses in NASCAR, the rest are OVALS, for those who think CIRCLES
MurphyMonster 1 year ago
@MurphyMonster Nascar driver in F1- They would be slow like jeff gordon was during his multiple