ahh! this man is amazing! did u all hear what he said? the bible is a collection of stories written over a time period by DIFFERENT authors. dats why the gospels, at times, contradict each other. some of the things in there applied to a particular community and lifestyle, not necessarily. it was not meant to be taken literally as a whole.
Authentic people are standing up everywhere. Even with their comments here. The Truth has no alternative and it always sets you free....especially if you continue to love each other. Love always wins in the end.
you religious people on here are sounding a little crazy and irrational (as usual) if your going to make argument "against him" make sure not to compare him to a pedophile priest who hides his exploitative sexual endeavors and is protected by the church Jim Swilley is simply being honest with himself but religion control your mind so i dont expect a rational response....
@urwhatthewho Secondly, if you feel the need to question a comment that I made or make in the future, I would like it if you could at least pretend to be civil. I am not dumb and I do not need to seek help. And just for your information, I am male.
@urwhatthewho the Bishop said "...straight people have a tendency to think that orientation is just about sex...". He goes on to say orientation is about love, world views, committment and he goes on. I believe ones "orientation" is determined by who you sleep with. I was not saying that homosexuality is a choice!
@ParadoxDiamond Are you that dumb. Do you not think that you brain dictates what you are attracted to. So, let's say you're a guy (I have not idea and don 't care), and you find yourself in bed with another guy. Are you saying that you would expect to want to have sex with him even though you're not attracted to him. Man, there are some dumb fucking people in this world. You don't "choose" your attractions, it imprinted in your brain. It's preprogramed. Seek help.
@siyanda00 and because hes not straight he cant "represent god" get out from under your rock people ARE GAY HAVE BEEN GAY AND WILL BE GAY can we talk about something else PLEASE!! like sefe sex, aids epidemics, divorce rates, the imperfect institution of marriage, suicide rates, homophobia .......smh
As he said himself, we are born gay and just as the church persecuted black men for centuries it is now for gay people to step forward and say the bible is not a book about developmental psychology but a book written by men with limited education with their prejudices and fears.
I agree with disneylandman. I, too, am impressed and moved by Jim Swilley and Debye, too. Jim, as a psychotherapist with a counseling ministry, I applaud you and Debye for living authentic lives. How freeing it must feel, regardless of any backlash. It's a pleasure to hear your explanation of the scriptures regarding slaves, fat people and the unemployed! You are so enlightened. There is so much more about your story I would love to know. I hope all good things for you and your family.
Hes risking his personal reputation and career to help others and try to save them from persecution? They should base some sort of religion around that. Just a thought.
"The spirit clearly says that in the latter times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons." -- 1 Timothy 4:1
"For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead to suit their own DESIRES, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away form the truth and turn aside to myths" -- 2 Timothy 4:3-4
@ScampyKid - that boy was not killed because of religion he was killed because his school friends video taped him kissing another guy it had nothing to do with religion
@siyanda00 LOL I was a very devout christian actually. My idea of God may be different from yours but, just like a lot of social issues, I can from an image of God using the same Bible you read. Trust me. The instructions to being a true christian is very simple in theory but hard in practice. LOVE. Simple as that nothing more nothing less. Think about it.
@sadguyfoundout1 - You are confused. Firstly, To me God is not an IDEA he is ALIVE and REAL!!
secondly, Love does not mean we should embrace and respect sin! This man is promoting sin and he is not different from people promoting abortion, killings, hate amongst other, etc and Nobody hates this man but the sin he has embraced. If you read your bible you would know God speaks of dying to self and self control which he seems to dismally fail in it and rather preach the opposite
@siyanda00 LOOOOOOOL! Yep and a lot of Christian dont just think but BELIEVE homosexuality is not a sin 1 LOL REAL and ALIVE um God isnt real and alive. He is an entitiy and doesnt exist as me and you exist so flaw number two. 3 Love is God. and God is Love. And guess what love basically is... RESPECT. Ive someone respects another as one would respect himself, that is love simple as that. Nothing more to it. That is the basic jist of the loving sections of the Bible. Respect.
@sadguyfoundout1 Prodigal Son, Good Samaritan.... Jesus preaching about giving to the poor from the rich, that is that kinda things we should practice, not "Hey, a particular part of our Holy text says living in a homosexual lifestyle is a sin *NOTE there is no such thing as a 'homosexual lifestyle'* along side playing football being a sin having clothes with two different threads woven a sin eating shrimps a sin... and the list goes on..." To be its all respect that is all it is.
@siyanda00 And yes I have read more than 10 whole books of the bible 2wice. I used to be a serious christian, now im an agnostic. I believe in a spiritual power that is anything but material and this being, God, is really just Love. He's not a he or a she. He Is omnipotent and omnipresent but he is so in Love not in Hate! Not to cause Disrespect. God is NOT a jealous. God is not Vengeful. God is part of Nature as well as Artificiality. :D God is just Love simply...
@sadguyfoundout1 - I guess you wasted your time reading those books and honestly it means nothing to me. I am not sure what bible you read but the bible I read speaks of my Lord differently from your god or entity. Since you are speaking of an "entity" I rather not go any further with you. The bible says we should FLEE from devils.
"The part of me that is her friend, wants her to be happy." There is so much love behind that statement. If only everyone could feel this way about their significant other.
A job of clergy consists of persuading people to follow Christ. It becomes easier to tell others to say that being Gay isn't about sex if you operate in this authoritative capacity. A governing body should question this influence administered over parishers without evidence to support other than a few letters from supporters. Watering down the facts about an alternative lifestyle can be very confusing and misunderstood in a place where people come to find the way.
Let's wait and see if the members of his church overcome their homophobia? Most Southern churches depend on preaching hate to justufy their existance. If you can't preach against something, why do you need to preach.
Although I feel any religion is proven dangerous, at least-unlike so many other-pastors & church leaders-he's honest! not the usual hypocrite. Gay isn't just about sexualness either-it's who you are fundamentally-body, mind & soul. People want to tell God what he did, or attempt to create HIm in their own image-according to the bible, or mans image-such as Jesus etc. God created diversity within the universe. Homosexuality is observed in Nature. Gays will always be a special part of that design.
Thank you for posting this video in its entirety. It was a great interview...stock in CNN increased in my opinion. Mr. Lemon is a consummate, young professional and Bishop was terrific...as always.
@XforeverlongingX you know that is a very interesting and compelling take on it (given your tone maybe it's an accident).
Maybe Jesus was actually gay. I'm pretty sure every other biblical hero has been recorded to have had sex (in several cases, outside of marriage, which is actually forbidden in the ten commandments but HEY picking and choosing Bible passages is what a good Christian does).
Jesus didn't. But Jesus obviously has all the other human emotions, anger, fear. love?
@chelledc sin according to whom?
PimpMyParadigm 6 months ago
was this before or after Lemon came out?
aishaxoxobela 6 months ago
@aishaxoxobela definitely before.
chicblossom 5 months ago
@djpeteret Better get used to it.
XforeverlongingX 6 months ago
ahh! this man is amazing! did u all hear what he said? the bible is a collection of stories written over a time period by DIFFERENT authors. dats why the gospels, at times, contradict each other. some of the things in there applied to a particular community and lifestyle, not necessarily. it was not meant to be taken literally as a whole.
shasanni 7 months ago
i'm sure they had butt sex after this inteview
hitmanvb47 7 months ago
Him and his son have the same rough voice.
mbrinton 8 months ago
Authentic people are standing up everywhere. Even with their comments here. The Truth has no alternative and it always sets you free....especially if you continue to love each other. Love always wins in the end.
hiddensurfer 9 months ago
you religious people on here are sounding a little crazy and irrational (as usual) if your going to make argument "against him" make sure not to compare him to a pedophile priest who hides his exploitative sexual endeavors and is protected by the church Jim Swilley is simply being honest with himself but religion control your mind so i dont expect a rational response....
PimpMyParadigm 9 months ago
@urwhatthewho Secondly, if you feel the need to question a comment that I made or make in the future, I would like it if you could at least pretend to be civil. I am not dumb and I do not need to seek help. And just for your information, I am male.
ParadoxDiamond 9 months ago
@urwhatthewho the Bishop said "...straight people have a tendency to think that orientation is just about sex...". He goes on to say orientation is about love, world views, committment and he goes on. I believe ones "orientation" is determined by who you sleep with. I was not saying that homosexuality is a choice!
ParadoxDiamond 9 months ago
How can this Bishop say that who one chooses to have sex with does not determine ones sexual orientation.
ParadoxDiamond 9 months ago
@ParadoxDiamond Are you that dumb. Do you not think that you brain dictates what you are attracted to. So, let's say you're a guy (I have not idea and don 't care), and you find yourself in bed with another guy. Are you saying that you would expect to want to have sex with him even though you're not attracted to him. Man, there are some dumb fucking people in this world. You don't "choose" your attractions, it imprinted in your brain. It's preprogramed. Seek help.
urwhatthewho 9 months ago
How can this Bishop say that who
ParadoxDiamond 9 months ago
What is up with his second wife? Why would you marry a gay man on purpose and have two kids with him? Desparate much?
supaspydamn 9 months ago
@supaspydamn So we could have the Black Lips
:)
mbrinton 8 months ago
@siyanda00 and because hes not straight he cant "represent god" get out from under your rock people ARE GAY HAVE BEEN GAY AND WILL BE GAY can we talk about something else PLEASE!! like sefe sex, aids epidemics, divorce rates, the imperfect institution of marriage, suicide rates, homophobia .......smh
PimpMyParadigm 10 months ago
As he said himself, we are born gay and just as the church persecuted black men for centuries it is now for gay people to step forward and say the bible is not a book about developmental psychology but a book written by men with limited education with their prejudices and fears.
borebox 1 year ago
every sermon I keep getting this picture in my mind of him tuning that meat whistle...
GET BEHIND ME SATAN!!....
"ummm, Satan... what are you doing?......woah, not that close behind me"
macxtc 1 year ago 2
I agree with disneylandman. I, too, am impressed and moved by Jim Swilley and Debye, too. Jim, as a psychotherapist with a counseling ministry, I applaud you and Debye for living authentic lives. How freeing it must feel, regardless of any backlash. It's a pleasure to hear your explanation of the scriptures regarding slaves, fat people and the unemployed! You are so enlightened. There is so much more about your story I would love to know. I hope all good things for you and your family.
janealice1 1 year ago
@janealice1 - you surely are moved by demons!!!
siyanda00 10 months ago
Hes risking his personal reputation and career to help others and try to save them from persecution? They should base some sort of religion around that. Just a thought.
grendelee 1 year ago
"The spirit clearly says that in the latter times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons." -- 1 Timothy 4:1
"For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead to suit their own DESIRES, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away form the truth and turn aside to myths" -- 2 Timothy 4:3-4
MaryWaterton 1 year ago 3
@MaryWaterton Timothy was kind of a douchebag, wasn't he?
ScampyKid 1 year ago
@ScampyKid - that boy was not killed because of religion he was killed because his school friends video taped him kissing another guy it had nothing to do with religion
siyanda00 10 months ago
@MaryWaterton - Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need to stand up for the truth!!! God bless you
siyanda00 10 months ago
he is so respectable and intelligent listen to his npr interview! i love his perspective on being "gay"
PimpMyParadigm 1 year ago
now THIS is a christian! There are no true christians. This guy is the closest to one!
sadguyfoundout1 1 year ago 3
@sadguyfoundout1 - its clear you have no clue what christianity is!!!
siyanda00 10 months ago
@siyanda00 LOL I was a very devout christian actually. My idea of God may be different from yours but, just like a lot of social issues, I can from an image of God using the same Bible you read. Trust me. The instructions to being a true christian is very simple in theory but hard in practice. LOVE. Simple as that nothing more nothing less. Think about it.
sadguyfoundout1 10 months ago
@sadguyfoundout1 - You are confused. Firstly, To me God is not an IDEA he is ALIVE and REAL!!
secondly, Love does not mean we should embrace and respect sin! This man is promoting sin and he is not different from people promoting abortion, killings, hate amongst other, etc and Nobody hates this man but the sin he has embraced. If you read your bible you would know God speaks of dying to self and self control which he seems to dismally fail in it and rather preach the opposite
siyanda00 10 months ago
@siyanda00 LOOOOOOOL! Yep and a lot of Christian dont just think but BELIEVE homosexuality is not a sin 1 LOL REAL and ALIVE um God isnt real and alive. He is an entitiy and doesnt exist as me and you exist so flaw number two. 3 Love is God. and God is Love. And guess what love basically is... RESPECT. Ive someone respects another as one would respect himself, that is love simple as that. Nothing more to it. That is the basic jist of the loving sections of the Bible. Respect.
sadguyfoundout1 10 months ago
@sadguyfoundout1 Prodigal Son, Good Samaritan.... Jesus preaching about giving to the poor from the rich, that is that kinda things we should practice, not "Hey, a particular part of our Holy text says living in a homosexual lifestyle is a sin *NOTE there is no such thing as a 'homosexual lifestyle'* along side playing football being a sin having clothes with two different threads woven a sin eating shrimps a sin... and the list goes on..." To be its all respect that is all it is.
sadguyfoundout1 10 months ago
@siyanda00 And yes I have read more than 10 whole books of the bible 2wice. I used to be a serious christian, now im an agnostic. I believe in a spiritual power that is anything but material and this being, God, is really just Love. He's not a he or a she. He Is omnipotent and omnipresent but he is so in Love not in Hate! Not to cause Disrespect. God is NOT a jealous. God is not Vengeful. God is part of Nature as well as Artificiality. :D God is just Love simply...
sadguyfoundout1 10 months ago
@sadguyfoundout1 - I guess you wasted your time reading those books and honestly it means nothing to me. I am not sure what bible you read but the bible I read speaks of my Lord differently from your god or entity. Since you are speaking of an "entity" I rather not go any further with you. The bible says we should FLEE from devils.
siyanda00 10 months ago
"The part of me that is her friend, wants her to be happy." There is so much love behind that statement. If only everyone could feel this way about their significant other.
AlchemyWoman 1 year ago
I'm very impressed and moved by this man. He is eloquent and has grace to spare. This is what a leader looks like.
disneylandman66 1 year ago 10
@disneylandman66 - You are a foolish person together with your "leader"
siyanda00 10 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@disneylandman66 except for the fact that he believes that those who do not follow his doctrine will be tortured for eternity, yeah.
XforeverlongingX 8 months ago
A job of clergy consists of persuading people to follow Christ. It becomes easier to tell others to say that being Gay isn't about sex if you operate in this authoritative capacity. A governing body should question this influence administered over parishers without evidence to support other than a few letters from supporters. Watering down the facts about an alternative lifestyle can be very confusing and misunderstood in a place where people come to find the way.
MrRedeyedemon 1 year ago
That is one brave man. My hat is off to him.
vaguelyreptilian 1 year ago 3
@vaguelyreptilian - Brave??? are you serious??? is he brave because he speaks against Chrsit?? How is he brave??
siyanda00 10 months ago
love my bish!!!!!
kailakorb555 1 year ago 2
Let's wait and see if the members of his church overcome their homophobia? Most Southern churches depend on preaching hate to justufy their existance. If you can't preach against something, why do you need to preach.
Rumake 1 year ago
1 REAL CHRISTIAN!!!!
MrRockythesquirrel 1 year ago
Bishop Rox!
teezy9989 1 year ago 2
The truth shall definitely set you free!!! Only God can judge him now.... Thank you for coming out Jim Swilley!!
sheilawright15 1 year ago
What a wonderful man!
God bless you.
You are blessed by many.
You are blessed.
hear2learn 1 year ago 2
Although I feel any religion is proven dangerous, at least-unlike so many other-pastors & church leaders-he's honest! not the usual hypocrite. Gay isn't just about sexualness either-it's who you are fundamentally-body, mind & soul. People want to tell God what he did, or attempt to create HIm in their own image-according to the bible, or mans image-such as Jesus etc. God created diversity within the universe. Homosexuality is observed in Nature. Gays will always be a special part of that design.
ksm1031 1 year ago
Jim Swilley is an amazing guy, , , , who happens to be gay! Yes, i support you, friend.
thebapproject 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this video in its entirety. It was a great interview...stock in CNN increased in my opinion. Mr. Lemon is a consummate, young professional and Bishop was terrific...as always.
Peace!
PattiL007 1 year ago
jesus was silent on homosexuality because he was probably a fierce queen or t-girl himself . hehe
XforeverlongingX 1 year ago 3
@XforeverlongingX lol
sedrickvanisi 1 year ago
@XforeverlongingX OMG imagine if he was a raging queen :O i can see it now :DD
GaaraSabuka 1 year ago
@XforeverlongingX you know that is a very interesting and compelling take on it (given your tone maybe it's an accident).
Maybe Jesus was actually gay. I'm pretty sure every other biblical hero has been recorded to have had sex (in several cases, outside of marriage, which is actually forbidden in the ten commandments but HEY picking and choosing Bible passages is what a good Christian does).
Jesus didn't. But Jesus obviously has all the other human emotions, anger, fear. love?
vaguelyreptilian 1 year ago
@XforeverlongingX may God forgive you for that comment whether you are a Christian or not.
RexLawson4eva 11 months ago
@XforeverlongingX you should becareful on how you talk you really don't know what you're saying and about who you're saying it.
Erap1muzik 8 months ago
@XforeverlongingX LOL
NOrleansbro 8 months ago