Prolotherapy to the Knee

[gunnz021]

Did that procedure hurt the patient? I noticed he didnt jump any, but wanted to make sure.

[skinkisd]

@gunnz021 Most patients are actually able to handle Prolotherapy as well as this patient in the video. Some patients are more sensitive. We do our best to make patients comfortable, and discuss those options during the consult, because we know that no one "likes" getting shots. But realize that the long term pain relief results of Prolotherapy are worth the couple minutes of pain getting the procedure done.

[dano415]

Oh yea, just because it worked for you means nothing. There needs to be a huge study.

This Quack is making a killing off people in pain. B-12? Growth hormone? Books?

Videos? = Big house and fancy car.

[dano415]

Where's the double blind study? It seems like the procedure would make for a great study?

The study should be large. Smacking your joints with a blunt object might have the same effect, but you need to know where to "smack" and how hard.

In the end, I feel the Placebo effect is the true cure--in most Allopatic and alternative medicine.

Random though, but I cringe at the stale state of "Modern" medicine? In twenty years we have not made much progress. It's a shame.

[plugspark333]

thank u so much for ur reply doctor...

but i'm in India .. i wont be able to do prolo here.., and i cant afford much price also..,

pls tell me if there are any home remedies that can make me better...

anyway.., thanks for ur words doc... ^_^

[skinkisd]

@plugspark333 You may want to try Google for doctors in India who practice Prolotherapy or other natural medicine who can see you. It's always best to see the person to make the best recommendations for his or her case. I'm sure you understand. Take care.

[plugspark333]

hi doc ^_^ .. thank u for the video..i just have a small question..

i'm a Martial Artist. once when i did a jump, i got a very small pop in my knee (before a month). but still when i climb stairs or do any gymnastics., it stings a little bit. i'm not comfortable and cant give my 100%. and i'm not able to stop my practice.is there a way to cure it with minimum rest.. : P ....

[skinkisd]

@plugspark333 Thanks for the question and sorry to hear about your knee. Yes, one benefit for athletes is that with Prolo is you can still exercise. If you would like to contact us directly we can give you more details about coming in for an appointment, but it sounds like an option for your type of case, and something that we see often. The sooner you address it, typically the fewer treatments are needed too. Wish you the best for now- talk to you soon.

[RoonyHD]

Is it a serious condition if I've taken an arrow to the knee whilst adventuring off around the world and is this procedure expensive since I'm on guard pay only.

[munirtalic]

DO U HAVE TO GO A COUPLE TIMES OR IS THAT A ONE TIME THING I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT DONE AS LONG AS I DONT HAVE TO KEEP GOING SOMEBODY PLEAS HELP MY KNEE IS HURTING BAD

[skinkisd]

@munirtalic Good question, typically 3-6 treatments are average. They are done 1 month apart. But the long term effect is very much worth it. This is not something that a person should need for the rest of their life, it's just a few treatments to kick start the body to repair. Sorry to hear about your knee! But we'd be happy to talk to you more about your case and how we can help.

[luvbailey4ever]

Doesn't it hurt when the needle hits the bone? How old do you need to be to have this procedure done?

[skinkisd]

@luvbailey4ever Please see the post below relating to pain. : ) As far as younger patients, it would depend on the case, as to if we felt Prolotherapy at our office would be a good option. For instance, there are some pain conditions, such as osteochondritis dissecans that specifically effects kids, and we've published a paper on how Prolo is effective. We also see teens with sports injuries very frequently. I'd encourage you to email us directly about your case and we're happy to help. Thanks

[VicariousReality7]

Doesn't it hurt a lot when the needle is bouncing in all directions

[skinkisd]

@VicariousReality7 Thanks for your question. Actually, that part "looks" worse than it really is. Some people have more sensitivity in certain areas of their knee, but otherwise, the worst part of the procedure is the needle pricking the skin. To help counter that, we apply a lidocaine cream to the skin, or a patient may take a pain killer prior to the procedure. But most people do not need anything beside the cream, just like the patient in the video.

[iseachaixx]

So tell me again, when you inject the prolotherapy to the TMJ subluxation, how is it a "miracle" that it can correctly re-align a misaligned joint?

[brentbps1]

@iseachaixx I might be able to answer that. I had knee surgery for ACL, MCL, torn meniscus. My patella was not tracking after surgery, so after seveal sessions of the patella ligament, which was loose, it tightened up and now my entire knee is tracking better. Similarly, the TMJ would tighten up as well and the jaw would probably track better as when the person was younger. It is pretty amazing how effective and how fast this does work. In several months ligaments begin to strengthen.

[iseachaixx]

@brentbps1 My real question is does it re-align a subluxed joint?

[brentbps1]

@iseachaixx Well,as I understand it, a subluxed joint, or partially dislocated joint is often caused by laxity in the tendons or ligaments. Prolotherapy specifically repairs the lax joints by injecting a proliferant into the area (Dr.Hauser has great videos & books) which causes the body to begin to rebuild the lax tendons and ligaments, even cartilage. The proliferant is often 12-25% dextrose( sugar) or sodium morrhuate(cod liver oil derivative), B-12, growth hormone & PRP. It worked for me

[iseachaixx]

@brentbps1 What if it's fully dislocated? Can it still help? 

[brentbps1]

@iseachaixx I can only give you a personaly opinion. It has worked on my previous herniated disks in my back, compressed disks in my neck, torn mcl, loose acl's, - although not miraculous, i am amazed that a series of little shots can fix loose joints so simply over 6 months to a year. No serious back pain, knees healing great. Check out all of Dr. Hauser's videos, go to his site and pick a doctor in your area. Some are better than others. Look for low pain and 10-30 shots per area.

[iseachaixx]

@brentbps1 If it's not miraculous, does it have a limit where you reach and can no longer improve further?

[brentbps1]

@iseachaixx You're asking me questions you should be asking a doctor. Just call Dr. Hauser. His number is on his webpage. I can't answer your questions.

[datzfast]

i understand how the irritant dextrose can induce healing , my concern is how it could possible call to action the millions upon millions of immune and proliferative cells responsible to areas of the body with poor blood supply unless the irritant dextrose was as at least as damaging as uric acid found in gouty arthritis conditions. i clearly dont understand dextrose, gulcose,hexose, being an irritant in the first place. ah well its all in the results anyway.

[datzfast]

im confused, why dont you just institute inflammation and subsequent healing with PRP, this way you wont cause additional damage using an irritant. seems to me PRP is one step closer to inflammation with subsequent healing any way.

[caringmedical]

@datzfast PRP is a form of Prolotherapy and certainly helpful in specific cases. However, PRP is not always necessary for the desired healing effect. Some patients come to us after "failed" PRP elsewhere starting that they only received one or two injections versus thoroughly treating the area with a normal/safe Prolotherapy solution, which does not cause additional damage. Dr. Hauser explains the rationale and safety of Prolotherapy in another video if you are interested in checking that out.

[datzfast]

@caringmedical i think you failed to understand the question.

[caringmedical]

@datzfast Sorry about that. Let's try again. We do believe in the healing of PRP and use it quite often at Caring Medical, but most painful conditions that we see are diffuse in nature and not limited to a specific area of the joint. Therefore, in our opinion, using one injection of PRP is not enough to strengthen the ligaments and tendons in the surrounding area which are typically injured as well due to over compensating for the initial injury. So we use PRP with dextrose Prolotherapy.

[datzfast]

@caringmedical thanks, i agree one injection of PRP would probably never complete a repair. i have been doing some fascinating reading how cox inhibitors delay healing and in animal models weaken ligaments and tendons by 40 percent with immobilization. my readings become branched and often disconnected but my main interest now is on Aspirin because one third of the planet regularly consumes it. in fact PRP therapy demands the discontinuation of aspirin 10 days before and during therapy

[LINDAKBECKER]

This is not MY doctor but I do have an acupuncturist trained in this and who has done this to my knee over the last few years with success. I have not been able to kneel on the knee for over 20 years, after 2 treatments I had so much "repair" to the joint that I began enjoying time on the floor playing with my son. As a professional pilot I do a lot of sitting which delays healing because of a lack of circulation. Prolo was the only way to go for me. It's painful and not for the faint of heart.

[caringmedical]

@LINDAKBECKER Thank you for your comments. I'm glad Prolotherapy has been successful for you. I've treated my knee as well with tremendous results. I hear you on the pain aspect of it. It can be painful, but I'm glad I went this route instead of the traditional way. I would much rather handle a couple minutes of injections than the surgery, rehab, missed work, and pain med route. Thanks again! Keep flying!

[LINDAKBECKER]

@caringmedical I've had 2 surgeries on the knee over a 19 year period subsequent to two traumas & neither worked as well as prolo. Are you a medical professional? I've had spondylolysthesis since age 14, suffered with it for 28 years. Had I known prolo would help it, I would have had it done years ago! I've missed many days of work and have taken handsful of pain meds because of back pain. Glad to say I don't take anymore plus I actively enjoy martial arts now! I'm living proof prolo works!

[itubeyoublah]

what is he injecting?

[skinkisd]

@itubeyoublah The standard Prolotherapy solution we use is dextrose along with some numbing agents, procaine and sarapin. Based on the individual's condition, symptoms, and diagnosis the doctor can add things such as human growth hormone if he thinks it may be necessary. You can read all about Prolotherapy on our websites caringmedical (com) or prolotherapy (org).

[iseachaixx]

I have a question. Does prolotherapy help patients with clicking pinky joints who have no pain? Would it be necessary?

[skinkisd]

@iseachaixx When a joint, any joint, is clicking or popping it typically involves some weakness or instability in that joint. But if you do not have pain, Prolotherapy may not be necessary. If there was pain, swelling, or reduced range of motion you might want to look into it and give us a call to schedule an appointment with Dr. Hauser.

[iseachaixx]

@skinkisd These joint things take a very long time to heal. I don't know what treatment to get for hand/finger joint clicks with no pain. I worked out at gym 2 months ago on July and suffered to joint/tendon injuries. I have no severe pain and I'm still able to live a physical active life. However, I am concerned about their ability to recover. My right and left arm joints are instable and making clicking noises. So do my wrists; 1 or 2 on my back/spine. You sure no prolotherapy needed?

[skinkisd]

@iseachaixx Well now you have me thinking that you should get an evaluation from a Prolotherapist. If you are a person who has weak or laxed ligaments, you just might benefit from some Prolotherapy treatments. A physician like Dr. Hauser, who is a natural medicine specialist and athlete, can assess if no Prolotherapy is needed. If not, he certainly can still suggest some options for better healing and strengthening.

[iseachaixx]

@skinkisd What kind of treatment do you think I will need for laxed ligament & joints if there is no pain and injection is not needed?

[skinkisd]

@iseachaixx Now that is a good question for a doctor. We are just outside of Chicago by the way, not in Cali.

[iseachaixx]

@skinkisd You know, I've done some further research to see if there's any regular or supplemental medications that can help laxed joints/ligaments/connective tissues repair faster; and unfortunately, there is barely any. It sucks and pisses me off. These things take so long to heal and I wonder why society didn't help these biomedical or pharmaceutical engineering students help create a medication for laxed ligaments/joints. There are people out there suffering from this after gymnastic workout.

[sfsTrader]

this sounds like it would make my knee become normal again. as long as i dont run it wont blow out and swell up. i have to do quad exercises atleast every 2 weeks or my knee gets weak and painful. but overall its weaker than it should be and has random pains.

how much does prolotherapy usually cost?

[skinkisd]

@sfsTrader check out Caring Medical's web site. You'll find this information and tons more on the left hand side. (caringmedical . com). Sorry, but I can't post web site addresses in YouTube so I had to write it like that. We hope to help you out soon!

[sfsTrader]

@skinkisd thanks!



[Elysian79]

can it help a torn ACL at all ? that's what I have !!!

[englishtoarab]

@Elysian79 yea thats what he said. all it does is it reduces the pain for the people who have ACL, Meniscus, etc injuries in the knee

[Asahel717]

Nine months ago I could not walk up stairs w/o pain on the inside of my knee (meniscal tear). The pain was ever present and limited me athletically. After five prolo treatments, I now run up stairs two at a time. Pain relief is about 90%. I'm sure had I been consistent with a stationary bike, I'd have near 100% pain relief. I would recommend prolo to anyone w/ a meniscal tear, sprained ACL, MCL or LCL, partially torn cartilage. The needle sticks easily beat chronic pain!

[yeyea333]

I have bakers cyst disease and i dont want to have surgical excission...big problem for me is i live in the phils...i wish there are prolothepist like u here..god bless doc..

[earle3f]

i've had prolotherapy on my knee, it does help. It works better if your nutrition is better, something it took me awhile to realize.

[catelynnw3]

I've had prolotherapy done on my neck which included injections in my scalp, along my spinal column, and outward towards my shoulders. First, the doctor sprayed on a topical numbing agent, then he injected surface level analgesic so that I didn't really feel the deeper injections. My daughter has had it done on her lower back and hips with minimal discomfort. Recovery time isn't very long, but you do need to lay low for a few days because the body is trying to heal.

[btinder711]

damn that looks vicious

[sashasheila]

can it be done on joint above feet?

[fetymann]

@sashasheila you mean that joint called an ankle? sure, why not?