@NastyNateDaSped i bowl with his sons, i beat them both and they were pissed lol, well last year his son, Anthony Mazza, had a 227 average and i had 228, so he was pissed and now his other son, Joe Mazza, little bastard im bout to beat his ass.
@Darkkefka being it the only other time in history ( at that time ) someone had made a 7-10 split conversion i would figure it would be something they always have for quick use
The 7-10 is 99.9% luck. The only skill needed is being able to throw the ball very hard, since there is no "angle". The perfect spot to slide the pins like a normal split has the ball over the gutter.
I picked up the 6-7-10 once, pretty exciting when it all works out.
I agree, 7-10 IS harder than a 300 game! It's a matter of bouncing that pin towards the other one on the opposite side. Some splits are easy to get, but that's one that's the trickiest by far!
My dad used to be a great bowler that averaged in the 200+ range. He successfully made a 300 game as well as the 7 10 one time. Unfortunately, his body is not as effective as it used to be. He says that "My mind clearly tells me to do the right move, but the pain on my knees throw me off target."
So I'm confused, you aren't allowed to bounce the ball out of the gutter to get pins that count but you are allowed to bounce a pin off the back wall beyond the lane back onto the pin area to hit other pins???? Why does that count?
To say that picking up a 7-10 is harder than throwing a 300 game is really a ridiculous statement. A 300 game is the ultimate test of consistency and accuracy. You have to hit your mark 12 shots in a row with near the same speed every single time. Sometimes it may require a little luck, but most times you control your own fate
A 7-10 split on the other hand you just have to throw the ball at a pin and pray it bounces just right into the other. It's more luck than it is skill and precision
I just picked up the 7-10 last night left handed. I normally bowl right handed and I have done picked it up with my right hand back in 2000. It is truly all luck. I'd love to know what the odds are in picking it up with both hands in league play. I agree its much harder than a 300 (speaking from experience).
I converted the 7-10 with a lot of luck recently. I threw lightning fast at the 10 (I have poor accuracy at the best of times), caught it on the right hand side, it bounced out and back in and swept the 7 over from behind. I couldn't believe it. It's not like me at all. My highest was a (lucky) 210, and my average is maybe 120-130.
@bobbtav If no one watches Taxi, than how did you know the Latka reference? The show was on for several years, so obviously some people were watching it. It was just a joke...calm down.
@caganb Actually there is some skill involved. You have to throw the ball with some velocity and hit the pin dead on. That's the only way the pin will hit the back wall with enough force to bounce back that far. Sure, he got lucky, but Mazza did all he had to do to make it happen.
@Arneson469 the 5-7-10 isnt harder, its actually easier, if you use a plastic ball and hit the 5 pin the 5 hits the 7(righty) or 10(lefty) and the ball hits the other pin, 7-10 still remains harder
@Arneson469 I agree, I have had 4 USBC sanctioned 300 games, and 5 or 6 in practice/open play, and last night in my league was the first time I've ever picked up a 7-10 split.
With oil patterns, "house shots" (non sport shot or PBA patterns), nowadays, you can miss your mark fairly substantially and still get a strike. 7-10s require the perfect blend of speed and angle, literally hundredths of a degree, or MPH for that matter. I will probably never pick another one up.
@Arneson469 I think the 7-10 conversion is more rare than a 300, but I don't believe it's 'harder'. A perfect game requires at least a fair degree of skill. Luck could play a big role, but skill plays at least a significant role as well, however, a 7-10 conversion is pure dumb luck. So much has to align perfectly for it to work, and many of those variables aren't controlled by the bowler - a bowler, even a pro, just hucks the ball down the lane and prays.
This pick up is probably the most amazing of the 3 picked up on TV. What makes it special is how the pin bounced on the back of the lane (imagine a rock skipping on watter) launching it forward towards the 10 pin.
You have to be really lucky to make the 7-10 split on AMF pinspotters. I heard there is a little trick to help you make it. On the left lane, hit the left pin. On the rght lane, hit the right pin. Why? Because the pit is HIGHER on those sides, making it easier for the pin to come out. Oddly enough, you can do the same on Brunswick A/A2/JetBacks, because the pin bounces out the side. If you hit the opposing side on a Brunswick machine, it just bounces straight out, not over.
@Bowler4Ever I agree completely. I've seen pins jump much more often out of Brunswick back ends than AMF. I used to work on AMF machines, and the difference in hieght from one side of the pit to the other is pretty small. I'm not sure if it is enough to make the difference in a pin bouncing over or not, but it is an interesting theory.
Man, over 30 years of bowling, and I have only converted the 7-10 one time LOL....I hit the 7 on the inside, it kicked off the sidewall and rolled into the 10 tripping it out...This guy killed it! Rock on!
of course it's luck people. no sense in arguing it. just like roth, mazza just went for the 1 pin, and walked away. you go for 1 hoping for the best. if it hits. you then are just stunned and laugh it off. as both did..(shaking their heads in disbelieft). i've only gotten the 7-10 once. in which it didn't count(bounced out of gutter into 10 then across to 7) was bowling alone so it technically counted..unlike in league play. i don't count it, though. ahh i love bowling
lots of things, look it up. In this case he literally converted certain defeat into a winning position. He converted (changed or "profitted") one ball toss into a separated two pin hit against pretty high odds.
The 7-10 is one of those spares that involves a great deal of luck. No matter how good of a spare shooter you are, you're ultimately at the mercy of pin deflection. I've only converted one in my life, and came damn close more times than I can count :)
I picked up my first 7-10 last night! I'm only a 180 avg. bowler so I've never been able to pick up that spare before . . . heh, it was all luck for me.
then i can assure you that it wasn't the 7-10 split, but it might have been the 4-10 or the 6-7. If you're not an avid bowler, sometimes the depth perception throws you off and it's hard to tell :D still a great feat though
First of all, I would advise you to show more class than to call those you don't know idiots. Especially when you've misunderstood the context in which the comments were posted. I wasn't contesting that John Mazza did not leave the 7-10 split, I am well-aware that he did, in fact, leave it. I was refuting someone's assertion that they witnessed a 7-10 conversion where the 10 slid over into the 7 pin. Therefore, they did not leave the 7-10, but rather the 4-10 or 6-7. And my IQ is 148.
Why do you say that? No one has been able to take any of my comments to this video in the correct context, so of course you'd assume that i'm an idiot... Either read ALL PREVIOUS COMMENTS that I've posted on this video in the order in which I've posted them and in response to whom I've posted them, or lay off because I'm sick of morons like you telling me I'm wrong when you don't even know what I'm talking about.
If your ball is in the gutter, it is out of play, so it wouldn't be considered a genuine 7-10 conversion. And being a physics major and an extreme advocate of the sport of bowling for the past 5 years, I can actually prove, using physics, that it is not possible to slide the 10 into the 7 or vise-versa even with "amazing accuracy." You can get close, but it simply is not possible. The 4 can slide into the 6 and vise-versa, and the 8 into the 10, but not the 7 into the 10 or vise-cersa.
I never doubted that John Mazza left and then converted the 7-10 in this video... I was replying to someone's comment who said that their brother's friend converted the 7-10 by sliding one of the pins over into the other one. I told that person that it was not physically possible. Then, everyone misread THAT post to say that I thought Mazza hadn't made the 7-10 in this video, and then everyone started jumping on my back. cman7711, I hope you now realize who is at fault... it's not me.
Ugh! Every time I'd log on to youtube, I'd have more and more negative, hateful comments regarding this video and it was driving me crazy. I've been bowling for 5 years, and I'm very knowledgeable about the sport. I certainly understand that there is no leave that cannot be converted in some fashion... Maybe people will finally quit harassing me about this.
I was averaging about 216 right before I started college about 2 months ago, and I haven't been able to practice much since then, so it's probably about 190ish. I'm going to try to start practicing at least 3 days per week though to keep from getting too rusty.
i went bowling tonight with a friend while we studied chemistry and I shot a 547 series... haha. 174, 156, 217. I felt like my adjustments were a lot more advantageous the last game though, so maybe I'm shaking off some of the rust.
it is possible... ive done it... more of a kick then slide but lets just say i threw it hard it bounced into then out of the gutter at the right time... 10 got kicked (more like flew) at the 7 and knocked it down... very rare, but possible
I already specified that the scernario you just described is not legitimate. I've seen someone do that, and it is not a credible 7-10 conversion because it went into the gutter. I'm saying that it is not possible to legally convert the 7-10 by sliding one pin into the other.
exactly i hate when ppl try to tell me they made a 7-10 like that...even worse is when someone tried to get away with it in my sanctioned bowling league
mscardigno09, i freaking LOVE you! haha. everyone who has replied to my comments on this video have told me how stupid I must be since I'm refuting the fact that the 7-10 split can be made by sliding one pin into the other, or that I claim that it doesn't count when the ball has jumped out of the gutter... any bowler with half a brain can accept the fact that it simply cannot be done, but somehow each and every one of my friends want to tell me that they've done it like this... ugh.
@BowlerScott If the 7-10 could be converted that way, certainly someone on the pro tour would have done it.. And all these other people trying to debate that there are splits tougher than the 7-10...ridiculous.
I love his reaction at first, he just rolled it and was basically like "ugh fml" while everyone behind him is cheering like crazy. xD Imagine what he must've felt when he realized he actually got it
All I gotta say is that Im glad Im a girl and don't have enough power to actually leave the 7-10 split very often. I see solid 7-10 splits left quite a bit in some of my leagues. but I barely ever leave it cause I don't throw enough hand or power :P haha
you know, power helps a lot. I've never actually measured my ball speed, but i throw it harder than just about anybody on my league. The combination of that, and a heavy ball means I get a strike, even when im not hitting the perfect spot every time. Messengers mean at least a nine every time i hit the head pin.
Anyone else notice on his spare shot he put in his ring and pinky fingers into the ball?
DashiCRAY 1 month ago
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How the hell could any idiot dislike this? This world is full of (insert word here). There's one in every crowd. In this case 15.
Maybe because it wasn't in High Definition. TV was much better when it was LOW Definition.
monkeeman1966 1 month ago
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monkeeman1966 1 month ago
I go to school with his sons...they're a bunch of assholes
NastyNateDaSped 2 months ago 17
@NastyNateDaSped i bowl with his sons, i beat them both and they were pissed lol, well last year his son, Anthony Mazza, had a 227 average and i had 228, so he was pissed and now his other son, Joe Mazza, little bastard im bout to beat his ass.
FranksTankLike22 1 month ago
Wow, let's replay that baby!!!
mrworkout79 4 months ago
You know, I'm not left-handed, but I LOVE Mazza's rhythmic, yet smooth delivery!
Tomkat53 5 months ago
@Tomkat53 then you must be too young to remember earl anthony. he was the best leftie ever...imho
skontch1 1 week ago
Mazza hardly reacts
Fawksau 5 months ago
I remember watching that conversion when it aired. I was about 14, and was so pumped when I saw that! Awesome!!
bluxinteriors 6 months ago
Its all luck...hitting it hard and bouncing it out..but thats just EPIC to watch..so so cool
StoneCold75 7 months ago
I'm amazed that they where able to quickly dig up roth's shot and air it.
Darkkefka 8 months ago 8
@Darkkefka Me too. I hope whoever got that footage got a raise!
xKillShockx 7 months ago
@Darkkefka being it the only other time in history ( at that time ) someone had made a 7-10 split conversion i would figure it would be something they always have for quick use
ya know... just in case
kionay 2 months ago
01:29 haha is that john stossel
hybr1dpur3 8 months ago
He was NOT trying to do that
BlackDynamiteNYC 8 months ago
@BlackDynamiteNYC with a 7-10, the only thing you're trying to do is not scream like a lady after chance hands you the conversion :)
MrPs103 8 months ago
u know whats harder than hitting a 7-10 in bowling? hitting it on wii bowl
specter290 9 months ago
nah do it like in the flintstones, break the bowling ball into 2
specter290 9 months ago
im his naboor so its pretty cool i talk to him alot
TheHungarianfarmer14 9 months ago
am I the only one that got a boner after that conversion?
danielDC100 9 months ago
he only used his ring finger and pinkie for the spare some people only use those 2 fingers
wrestlingfan37 10 months ago
8 pins with a circle around it........SPARE!
koryclarke1991 11 months ago
The 7-10 is 99.9% luck. The only skill needed is being able to throw the ball very hard, since there is no "angle". The perfect spot to slide the pins like a normal split has the ball over the gutter.
I picked up the 6-7-10 once, pretty exciting when it all works out.
Zoomer30 11 months ago
:25 only ring finger in the ball to
bowleramaa 11 months ago
@bowleramaa makes the ball go straiter
TheMusicjuice 11 months ago
@TheMusicjuice i used to do the same but i just changed my hand position and it fixed a lot of problems
bowleramaa 11 months ago
7-10 is mostly luck compared to a 300
all4golf 11 months ago
I came when I saw that conversion....TWICE
danielDC100 11 months ago
I have hit two 300 games and made the 7-10 once in almost 40 years of bowling.
hoag1964 11 months ago
Listen carefully at 0:10 You will hear an overreacting kid go WHAT?
thepipeman12345 1 year ago 13
@thepipeman12345 ahahahahahahahahahahah
specter290 9 months ago
@thepipeman12345 how the hell did you notice that? are you a proffesional musician or edward cullen?
specter290 9 months ago
I agree, 7-10 IS harder than a 300 game! It's a matter of bouncing that pin towards the other one on the opposite side. Some splits are easy to get, but that's one that's the trickiest by far!
001GenLee 1 year ago
My dad used to be a great bowler that averaged in the 200+ range. He successfully made a 300 game as well as the 7 10 one time. Unfortunately, his body is not as effective as it used to be. He says that "My mind clearly tells me to do the right move, but the pain on my knees throw me off target."
MONOPOLY35 1 year ago
What a shot. I know Mr. Mazza personally I go to school with his son.
RaPiiiDxShoTz 1 year ago
USBC needs to make a ring that says: "You can keep your 300 - I made the 7-10"
IAMADEUM 1 year ago 2
i was fortunate enough to have been coached by Mr. Mazza and bowled with his son. terrific guy
keefurs 1 year ago
So I'm confused, you aren't allowed to bounce the ball out of the gutter to get pins that count but you are allowed to bounce a pin off the back wall beyond the lane back onto the pin area to hit other pins???? Why does that count?
vaibanez17 1 year ago
@vaibanez17 Because, in the latter situation, the ball never goes foul -- the back wall is at the end of the lane, not beyond it.
TheKetsuban 1 year ago
To say that picking up a 7-10 is harder than throwing a 300 game is really a ridiculous statement. A 300 game is the ultimate test of consistency and accuracy. You have to hit your mark 12 shots in a row with near the same speed every single time. Sometimes it may require a little luck, but most times you control your own fate
A 7-10 split on the other hand you just have to throw the ball at a pin and pray it bounces just right into the other. It's more luck than it is skill and precision
IamTheShermanator 1 year ago
always film a 7-10! ALWAYS
westel100 1 year ago
@westel100 ...you need to get out more you sad bastard!! hahaha
coltsuperocean10 1 year ago
pin love
jbyrd0861 1 year ago
0:37 looks like such a pimp
wiiman0001 1 year ago
powerful shots like this one make history in the PBA or any league what so ever, but accuracy is more important then power.
this 7-10 split conversion is hard to do, but it's not impossible!
WRWjr. made the big four, and he's the only one to do it in the PBA.
5p0rter 1 year ago
@pikespice Wow, I remember watching this live on TV when I was a kid. So awesome that you recorded and uploaded this. Nice work, man.
gamblour 1 year ago
WTF!!!!!!! son of a...... o_O
tiolalo 1 year ago
I just picked up the 7-10 last night left handed. I normally bowl right handed and I have done picked it up with my right hand back in 2000. It is truly all luck. I'd love to know what the odds are in picking it up with both hands in league play. I agree its much harder than a 300 (speaking from experience).
bitemark46 1 year ago
John Mazza is a pimp
wiiman0001 1 year ago
I converted the 7-10 with a lot of luck recently. I threw lightning fast at the 10 (I have poor accuracy at the best of times), caught it on the right hand side, it bounced out and back in and swept the 7 over from behind. I couldn't believe it. It's not like me at all. My highest was a (lucky) 210, and my average is maybe 120-130.
Maddy4Me 1 year ago
@Maddy4Me when i was 14 years old (16now) i picked up a 7-10 outa of pure luck :) it is best feeling in the world
jamierocks42 1 year ago
1991, huh. So I missed this amazing shot. I was born in '97.
KolaDannySH2 1 year ago
Converting a 7-10 should be scored the same as a strike--it's harder.
bob27f 1 year ago
Awesome there's no other word for ot
mad87645 1 year ago
In fairness that was more luck than anything. He hit that pin full on and it just bouced over to the other one
Noeladishi 1 year ago
This guy have a Rhino Page style =P
LodTV 1 year ago
What an athlete!
montezumasrevenge 1 year ago
I didn't know Latka could bowl...ha ha.
ForeverYoung58 1 year ago
@ForeverYoung58 yeah grow up no one watches taxi
bobbtav 1 year ago
@bobbtav If no one watches Taxi, than how did you know the Latka reference? The show was on for several years, so obviously some people were watching it. It was just a joke...calm down.
ForeverYoung58 1 year ago
Knocking down just 2 pins is harder.
TheBrassHole 1 year ago
BOOM Lefties stormin' it up!
MrWweman2009 1 year ago
he throws with his pinky and ring finger o.o - and he got the 7-10
MrWweman2009 1 year ago
i know his son
ShesABlindWhore 1 year ago
pure luck, nothing else
caganb 1 year ago
@caganb Actually there is some skill involved. You have to throw the ball with some velocity and hit the pin dead on. That's the only way the pin will hit the back wall with enough force to bounce back that far. Sure, he got lucky, but Mazza did all he had to do to make it happen.
ForeverYoung58 1 year ago
My son converted that the other day. He's 17. The ball hit the 10, then kicked off the wall and hit the ball again and crunched over to the 7.
misanthrope8 1 year ago
Wow that is cool!
No open frame for you
cartoongameshowfan76 1 year ago
@GlorifiedTruth so he uses his pinky and ring finger? thats awkward.
Scotchtapeeater 1 year ago
7-10 is harder than a 300
Arneson469 2 years ago 124
no doubt
Ps2Man5960 1 year ago
@Arneson469 and a 5-7-10 is harder than a 7-10 which is harder than a 300
MrWweman2009 1 year ago
@Arneson469 the 5-7-10 isnt harder, its actually easier, if you use a plastic ball and hit the 5 pin the 5 hits the 7(righty) or 10(lefty) and the ball hits the other pin, 7-10 still remains harder
miniyang428 1 year ago
@Arneson469 A 292 is harder then BOTH.
TheBrassHole 1 year ago
@Arneson469 it`s not harder....it`s a way harder.....
Daniel7up 1 year ago
@Arneson469 Only if it's a house shot. I think a 300 on a sport shot or international pattern is much harder.
cman7711 1 year ago
@Arneson469 How about 5-7-10 is much harder than 7-10.
nwest1140 1 year ago
@Arneson469 wii?
westel100 1 year ago
@Arneson469 I disagree.
The 7-10 is one shot. A 300 is twelve shots in a row.
thatoshawaguy 1 year ago
@Arneson469 bullshit
GorgonTheMagicMan 1 year ago
@GorgonTheMagicMan no it isnt. if you check the records, there are far more 300s bowled on t.v. than 7-10 conversions. just saying.
jewbowl225 1 year ago
@Arneson469 I agree, I have had 4 USBC sanctioned 300 games, and 5 or 6 in practice/open play, and last night in my league was the first time I've ever picked up a 7-10 split.
With oil patterns, "house shots" (non sport shot or PBA patterns), nowadays, you can miss your mark fairly substantially and still get a strike. 7-10s require the perfect blend of speed and angle, literally hundredths of a degree, or MPH for that matter. I will probably never pick another one up.
nextbmxstar 1 year ago
@Arneson469 I think the 7-10 conversion is more rare than a 300, but I don't believe it's 'harder'. A perfect game requires at least a fair degree of skill. Luck could play a big role, but skill plays at least a significant role as well, however, a 7-10 conversion is pure dumb luck. So much has to align perfectly for it to work, and many of those variables aren't controlled by the bowler - a bowler, even a pro, just hucks the ball down the lane and prays.
MrEcted 1 year ago
not saying that's not true, but I've actually hit the seven ten and have no 300's to my name
kddiggy1977 10 months ago
@kddiggy1977 I have a 300, but not 7-10. In my opinion, I'd rather have 300s and no 7-10s.
rqtsport 10 months ago
@rqtsport really would like either, never got either.
MrPs103 8 months ago
....it would be amazing to see the
1-5-7-10 converted - if that incredibly
strange leave occurs.
jwm239 2 years ago
haha i know mr mazza
HaMYx586 2 years ago
This is still one of the most awesome shots you'll ever see. Kudos to John Mazza (and of course Mark Roth in 1980)!
startover942 2 years ago 2
This makes the time I picked up a 4-6-10 look just plain silly.
startover942 2 years ago
This pick up is probably the most amazing of the 3 picked up on TV. What makes it special is how the pin bounced on the back of the lane (imagine a rock skipping on watter) launching it forward towards the 10 pin.
yague123 2 years ago
You have to be really lucky to make the 7-10 split on AMF pinspotters. I heard there is a little trick to help you make it. On the left lane, hit the left pin. On the rght lane, hit the right pin. Why? Because the pit is HIGHER on those sides, making it easier for the pin to come out. Oddly enough, you can do the same on Brunswick A/A2/JetBacks, because the pin bounces out the side. If you hit the opposing side on a Brunswick machine, it just bounces straight out, not over.
Bowler4Ever 2 years ago 7
@Bowler4Ever to do it on gs pinsetters, you must make the ball hit the pin and hope.
JTD508110 5 months ago
@Bowler4Ever I agree completely. I've seen pins jump much more often out of Brunswick back ends than AMF. I used to work on AMF machines, and the difference in hieght from one side of the pit to the other is pretty small. I'm not sure if it is enough to make the difference in a pin bouncing over or not, but it is an interesting theory.
dbkparm 5 months ago
FLAWLESS VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!
xrockthe40ozx 2 years ago
Man, over 30 years of bowling, and I have only converted the 7-10 one time LOL....I hit the 7 on the inside, it kicked off the sidewall and rolled into the 10 tripping it out...This guy killed it! Rock on!
M424Filmcast 2 years ago
yup.. buddy of mine did the same thing last week on league night, we all went crazy
andyman820 2 years ago
stab the snake eyes
theodrin1 2 years ago
WHOA WHOA, DAAAAMN!
Getrealpeeps 2 years ago
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lefty? u know who's got a left hand? the devil!
alcatraz0r 2 years ago
1000-1 odds? It has to be much worse, I would think that it would probably be closer to 50,000 to 100,000 -1
Mattdean76 2 years ago
He also did say "At least 1000-1"
Bhastings91 2 years ago
Probably close to 1000:1 odds IF you actually hit one of the pins. I'm sure these odds are reasonable. 50000:1 seems astronomical.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
That's a different way to do it, but it still works.
stlrsown472 2 years ago
hey he's a lefty! :0
Knhyd 2 years ago
just like me :)
ugnut123 2 years ago
I came when I saw that conversion.
amodino 2 years ago 34
what do you do when u see a naked hot woman? xD
LainNL 2 years ago
punch her in the throat
amodino 2 years ago
u gay? :)
LainNL 2 years ago
Nope, but your emoticons are creeping me out.
amodino 2 years ago
@amodino me too like twice, really hard
leadruffian 1 year ago
％狙ったかも知れない目をしていましたね＾＾
あり得るんですね☆
こんなこと＾＾
migikara12hidari20 2 years ago
I thank the LORD that I made the 4-6-7 split last weekend.
coulbydunn 2 years ago
I've never heard such imbecilic commentary. Thanking the great spirit?! Laughed my tits off at that.
euph4simes 2 years ago 2
real good
lundborgis 2 years ago 2
lets replay THAT baby!
fackinjacksack 2 years ago 3
Mozza vs. Roth: who will win in a match?
jigsawsmaster18 2 years ago 2
Damn, that 7 pin behaves like a big bouncing ball in getting over to the 10! Great shot indeed.
lcr1955 2 years ago
Nice ace conversion there.
Wish I can do that in 5 Pin Bowling.
HalifaxHercules 2 years ago
It looks like at 0:24 he uses his ring and pinkie finger. Maybe that just me but if it's true that is very odd.
all4golf 2 years ago 3
of course it's luck people. no sense in arguing it. just like roth, mazza just went for the 1 pin, and walked away. you go for 1 hoping for the best. if it hits. you then are just stunned and laugh it off. as both did..(shaking their heads in disbelieft). i've only gotten the 7-10 once. in which it didn't count(bounced out of gutter into 10 then across to 7) was bowling alone so it technically counted..unlike in league play. i don't count it, though. ahh i love bowling
dirtycavemen 2 years ago
most of it was luck actullay all of it
joshuadavid5120 2 years ago 3
what does conversion mean
CarsiUlan1 2 years ago
lots of things, look it up. In this case he literally converted certain defeat into a winning position. He converted (changed or "profitted") one ball toss into a separated two pin hit against pretty high odds.
UBER069 2 years ago
an event that results in a transformation
batmankid45 2 years ago
yeah..mark roth did it be4..now him.. maybe one day i'd be able to do so *crossing my fingers :p*
eidelicious 2 years ago
The 7-10 is one of those spares that involves a great deal of luck. No matter how good of a spare shooter you are, you're ultimately at the mercy of pin deflection. I've only converted one in my life, and came damn close more times than I can count :)
upliftmofo00 2 years ago 2
lol I suck at bowling. I got 6 spares and 2 strikes in a game today, but that's the best I've ever done. Again, I suck at bowling
spasticchuckles016 2 years ago
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Eralen00 2 years ago
Latka Gravas: Professional bowler.
ertznay 2 years ago
Love the reaction
Clyp 2 years ago 3
I picked up my first 7-10 last night! I'm only a 180 avg. bowler so I've never been able to pick up that spare before . . . heh, it was all luck for me.
BIGJOHN3212 2 years ago 2
my brothers friend tapped the side of the lft 1 and hit the right 1
it was awsom
spikelangbine 2 years ago
then i can assure you that it wasn't the 7-10 split, but it might have been the 4-10 or the 6-7. If you're not an avid bowler, sometimes the depth perception throws you off and it's hard to tell :D still a great feat though
BowlerScott 2 years ago
nah it was definately 7-10 because it came up on a little screen and everyone was laughing, it was the biggest fluke ever though haha
spikelangbine 2 years ago
wow
BowlerScott 2 years ago
You are an idiot. 0:57 clearly shows it is the 7-10
ertznay 2 years ago
First of all, I would advise you to show more class than to call those you don't know idiots. Especially when you've misunderstood the context in which the comments were posted. I wasn't contesting that John Mazza did not leave the 7-10 split, I am well-aware that he did, in fact, leave it. I was refuting someone's assertion that they witnessed a 7-10 conversion where the 10 slid over into the 7 pin. Therefore, they did not leave the 7-10, but rather the 4-10 or 6-7. And my IQ is 148.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
But its not the 4-10 or the 6-7, its the 7-10. Your iq might' be 148 as u said. but what does that have to do with knowledge of bowling?
seahawkgirl9137 2 years ago
just drop it... you have misunderstood the conversation, and it's obvious you don't know what I'm talking about.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
You apparently are a IQ 148 idiot.
lilceejz 2 years ago
Why do you say that? No one has been able to take any of my comments to this video in the correct context, so of course you'd assume that i'm an idiot... Either read ALL PREVIOUS COMMENTS that I've posted on this video in the order in which I've posted them and in response to whom I've posted them, or lay off because I'm sick of morons like you telling me I'm wrong when you don't even know what I'm talking about.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
It is possible to slide the tenpin over to the sevenpin if you either have amazing accuracy or your ball bounces whilst in the gutter.
ExtinctionGaming09 2 years ago
If your ball is in the gutter, it is out of play, so it wouldn't be considered a genuine 7-10 conversion. And being a physics major and an extreme advocate of the sport of bowling for the past 5 years, I can actually prove, using physics, that it is not possible to slide the 10 into the 7 or vise-versa even with "amazing accuracy." You can get close, but it simply is not possible. The 4 can slide into the 6 and vise-versa, and the 8 into the 10, but not the 7 into the 10 or vise-cersa.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
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Brutekiller147 2 years ago
bowler scott i hope by now you realize it is the 7-10 right?
cman7711 2 years ago
I never doubted that John Mazza left and then converted the 7-10 in this video... I was replying to someone's comment who said that their brother's friend converted the 7-10 by sliding one of the pins over into the other one. I told that person that it was not physically possible. Then, everyone misread THAT post to say that I thought Mazza hadn't made the 7-10 in this video, and then everyone started jumping on my back. cman7711, I hope you now realize who is at fault... it's not me.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
obviously you should specify more!!!!! hahaha
cman7711 2 years ago
Ugh! Every time I'd log on to youtube, I'd have more and more negative, hateful comments regarding this video and it was driving me crazy. I've been bowling for 5 years, and I'm very knowledgeable about the sport. I certainly understand that there is no leave that cannot be converted in some fashion... Maybe people will finally quit harassing me about this.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
ive been bowlin for about five or six years also. what you averagin?
cman7711 2 years ago
I was averaging about 216 right before I started college about 2 months ago, and I haven't been able to practice much since then, so it's probably about 190ish. I'm going to try to start practicing at least 3 days per week though to keep from getting too rusty.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
yeah im havin the same problem, just high school :(
cman7711 2 years ago
i went bowling tonight with a friend while we studied chemistry and I shot a 547 series... haha. 174, 156, 217. I felt like my adjustments were a lot more advantageous the last game though, so maybe I'm shaking off some of the rust.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
last week in league i barely broke 160. couldnt find the poket worth anything. ftw
cman7711 2 years ago
it is possible... ive done it... more of a kick then slide but lets just say i threw it hard it bounced into then out of the gutter at the right time... 10 got kicked (more like flew) at the 7 and knocked it down... very rare, but possible
honkindonkey 2 years ago
I already specified that the scernario you just described is not legitimate. I've seen someone do that, and it is not a credible 7-10 conversion because it went into the gutter. I'm saying that it is not possible to legally convert the 7-10 by sliding one pin into the other.
BowlerScott 2 years ago 2
exactly i hate when ppl try to tell me they made a 7-10 like that...even worse is when someone tried to get away with it in my sanctioned bowling league
mscardigno09 2 years ago
mscardigno09, i freaking LOVE you! haha. everyone who has replied to my comments on this video have told me how stupid I must be since I'm refuting the fact that the 7-10 split can be made by sliding one pin into the other, or that I claim that it doesn't count when the ball has jumped out of the gutter... any bowler with half a brain can accept the fact that it simply cannot be done, but somehow each and every one of my friends want to tell me that they've done it like this... ugh.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
it does count when the pin bounces out of the gutter. The PBA counts it
jigsawsmaster18 2 years ago 2
I was not talking about the PIN, I was talking about the BALL. I do not understand why people cannot comprehend the point I'm trying to make...
BowlerScott 2 years ago
@BowlerScott If the 7-10 could be converted that way, certainly someone on the pro tour would have done it.. And all these other people trying to debate that there are splits tougher than the 7-10...ridiculous.
ForeverYoung58 1 year ago
In league and tournament play if it goes in the gutter and bounces out it's still a gutter.
kanzenmuke 2 years ago
left power
ladragonaperla1988 2 years ago 3
I can do that! (well, the 1st bit anyway)
sirreal82 2 years ago 18
Clever.
RudolphEnds 2 years ago
I love his reaction at first, he just rolled it and was basically like "ugh fml" while everyone behind him is cheering like crazy. xD Imagine what he must've felt when he realized he actually got it
catmasterwithfruit 2 years ago
All I gotta say is that Im glad Im a girl and don't have enough power to actually leave the 7-10 split very often. I see solid 7-10 splits left quite a bit in some of my leagues. but I barely ever leave it cause I don't throw enough hand or power :P haha
luvnaley07 3 years ago
being a girl doesnt have to mean you cant leave a 7-10 :P
i leave the 7-10 split lots of times, but then again, im a boy, mabye it DOES have something to do with it ^^
RiverHD 3 years ago
you know, power helps a lot. I've never actually measured my ball speed, but i throw it harder than just about anybody on my league. The combination of that, and a heavy ball means I get a strike, even when im not hitting the perfect spot every time. Messengers mean at least a nine every time i hit the head pin.
mortson978 3 years ago
That's the worst split.
nwest1140 3 years ago
yeah i am a lefty just like him and i hit the 7 pin all the way behind the 10 pin but i didnt get it!
ShadowLuigi333 3 years ago