Part 2 Ron Paul, Napolitano, Peter Schiff, and Cody Willard

[toontokketoxic]

I can have a business in the capitalistic system . use some of my money to built a kind of social security between me and the people i trust . and even share natural resources with another group of people.

BECAUSE the government isn't involved it doesn't mean it ceases to be capitalism socialism or even communism . It's forcing those systems on people that is bad. freedom of choice is vital so how any free market person can be against the other systems when they're a free choice(by others)...

[toontokketoxic]

independent socialism is without government forcing taxes on everyone to pay for socialist programs . the whole idea of socialism being part of politics is part of the game . that doesn't mean that people willingly ,and without the need to convince others ,join socially to help one another is anti capitalism. The two systems can coexist and are just played out against one another in the political game . when five people decide to grow crops and share . that still is a small form of communism

[RobC1999]

Entering into an agreement is a principle of free market contracts and is voluntary.

Joining socially isn't anti-capitalism. if you're talking about individuals being able to decide for themselves what they are going to support or be involved without government requirement - that is capitalism. Socialism involves government requirement of actions and government ownership of property.

In this country we are moving toward Fascism where businesses remain private, but under government control.

[toontokketoxic]

individual charity can help some of those people to become contributers themselves

and yes social programs by government is forced charity

[toontokketoxic]

When you have independent social networks with competing currencies and free choice memberships you can cut federal taxes and that's the big problem paying taxes should be by choice ! maybe the people who can afford to pay but won't will just not enjoy that service required paying taxes for .

btw you have just all proofed the point about socialism vs. capitalism they are two different things you can do them both but by choice not via so called majority forcing the rest to there believes

[mustangjake2073]

socialism is when government can rule all

democracy is when 51% can rule 49%

Capitalism is when economy runs w/o government interference.

Republic is when no one can rule an individual

Charity is not socialism. Charity rises from free republics and not socialist countries.

[Atom299]

Historically Republics evolve into Democracies which in turn evolve into Dictatorships.

This evolution is what we're watching.

[Boscovius]

Kind of sounds like what happened in Star Wars with the Galactic Republic.

[freesk8]

"This is the way liberty dies: to thunderous applause."

[toontokketoxic]

and not the other way around

[toontokketoxic]

socialism should be part of the free market

[chewbaca1989]

I don't see how this is possible, maybe I missed something? Can extrapolate?

[motina10]

Ideally, socialism through a free-market is charity.

[Nexus974]

socialism is a parasite. It can't produce anything on it's own. It must have a strong free-market host to feed off of or it dies.

[engine2truck6]

Nonsense. It is nonsense. It is like saying that ideally, one should tell the truth by lying.

[dleddy1414]

and slavery should be a part of freedom, light part of darkness, up part of down, night part of day.

[da324]

It's quite apparent you've never studied the subject.