I have seen people who, before bowing, slide the left hand to the floor, and then the second hand. Then they bow. After they bow, they slide back the right hand first, and the left hand later. I heard it is because of the weapons. Have any of you heard of that?
well it depends, in iai-do i know that you have to do left then right, but in karate-do and kendo you do both at the same time, and in all of them you are not suppose to go so far down to where your neck is showing
@malasangre Yes you are right, karate practitioners do follow this combination of movements before and after every session. The idea of leaving on hand free is to be able to defend yourself easier if someone attacks you. The higher grades (significantly higher grades, such as instructors) put both of their hands at the same time because they are thought to have the ability to defend themselves regardless if their hand is free or not.
Well, I did a bit of research, and found out that civilians moves their hands at the same time, while samurais moved them one by one. In okinawa, they do it at the same time because there were no samurai (peichin is not the same). so since karate was brought to mainland Japan, some people bowed like civilians, and others like samurais. It is not big issue, just tells us about the social status and place of origin of the first instructor.
maybe it does not say anything about the first instructor: as martial arts became a sport, anybody could learn weapons, and also many weapons instructors first studied karate and then taught it. so after several generations of instructors, each repeats what they taught him, regardless any reference to social status or place of origin.
@jin54363 : Japanese kendo is the educational sport version (gendai budo) of the samurai´s kenjutsu (koryu bujutsu) and yes, it probably has followed the same etiquette than its older predecessor. Karate was not japanese, but Okinawan, and was a civilian fighting art, not a military discipline, with different etiquette.
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befnleah 3 years ago
This video is wonderfull. I love hearing it conducted in Japanese. I wish there were more schools like this where I reside in Florida.
Chigura78 3 years ago
Yes malasangre it's correct.
ROKUVALE 3 years ago
I have seen people who, before bowing, slide the left hand to the floor, and then the second hand. Then they bow. After they bow, they slide back the right hand first, and the left hand later. I heard it is because of the weapons. Have any of you heard of that?
malasangre 3 years ago
well it depends, in iai-do i know that you have to do left then right, but in karate-do and kendo you do both at the same time, and in all of them you are not suppose to go so far down to where your neck is showing
DMWH 3 years ago
@malasangre Yes you are right, karate practitioners do follow this combination of movements before and after every session. The idea of leaving on hand free is to be able to defend yourself easier if someone attacks you. The higher grades (significantly higher grades, such as instructors) put both of their hands at the same time because they are thought to have the ability to defend themselves regardless if their hand is free or not.
bit funny really isnt it
rockyjay2 1 year ago
@rockyjay2
Well, I did a bit of research, and found out that civilians moves their hands at the same time, while samurais moved them one by one. In okinawa, they do it at the same time because there were no samurai (peichin is not the same). so since karate was brought to mainland Japan, some people bowed like civilians, and others like samurais. It is not big issue, just tells us about the social status and place of origin of the first instructor.
malasangre 1 year ago
@rockyjay2
maybe it does not say anything about the first instructor: as martial arts became a sport, anybody could learn weapons, and also many weapons instructors first studied karate and then taught it. so after several generations of instructors, each repeats what they taught him, regardless any reference to social status or place of origin.
malasangre 1 year ago
@malasangre
i thought the seiza manners of kendo the same of the samurai, but different from karate.
jin54363 1 year ago
@jin54363 : Japanese kendo is the educational sport version (gendai budo) of the samurai´s kenjutsu (koryu bujutsu) and yes, it probably has followed the same etiquette than its older predecessor. Karate was not japanese, but Okinawan, and was a civilian fighting art, not a military discipline, with different etiquette.
malasangre 1 year ago
@malasangre
yes karate was known as chinese style in okinawa but when it came to japan it meant empty hands
jin54363 1 year ago
This is a very important video.
CHRISTIANRUZZA 4 years ago 12