disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
This is the dictionary definition of atheist. This belief that there is no god(s) is explained because of the lack of evidence. Lack of evidence at best creates uncertainty, agnosticism. To positively assert "there is no god(s)" requires proof for the position. Atheists decline to fulfill their duty stating that you can't prove a negative, yet they are positive. HMMMM.
@wondergundy What, the big accident that just keeps improving itself isn't a myth. Prove it. Twice as sure, how do you measure that? That's atheism, making stupid assertions and hoping that someone out there is gullible enough to take it as fact.
@MrItchyElbow What are you on about. Can't just post your belief and justify it. Everyone is an atheist,even you. Well maybe not you... You might believe anything you are told. All the gods are equally real?. Zeus and Apollo are staging a comeback?.
Why do people always think an atheist has to be somebody that believes there is no god? You can be an atheist by simply not believing in a god or gods without making a claim that one does not exist. Thats why not believing isnt a belief. Geez.
Until you can grasp the concept of not believing, you will never get it.
Atheist when broken down is non theist. Theist is a belief that the sole creator of the universe cares about you and has a plan for you. non theist is therefore not believing this proposition. The A in Anarchy is not defined the same was as the A in Atheist Anarchy is in itself a completely different word.. it is separate from other words.. Atheist is the antithesis of objective theism. Your argument is horribly constructed, not valid and you are an ignoramus.
so what exactly does anarchy have to do with theism? you think gods create the laws you adhere to? somehow i don't think it was a god came up with talking on the cell phone while driving is illegal, curbing your dog, housing & health codes... faith is belief w/o evidence... no evidence of a god, no reason to believe in it. there is no evidence for leprechauns, goblins, pink unicorns, pegasus, zeus, thor, faeries... do you believe in these things too? a - without, the(os) - god, ism - belief
1. A contrapositive of a statement is not the original statement. You need a course in what you call "logics."
2. Anarchy, in your usage, is a state that society is not in. An anarchist is someone who wants to place society in an anarchic state. Therefore, the anarchist wants to effect a state change - a real event, ushering in a real state. (BTW, that is not the political definition of anarchy, which is self-organization among people without declared leadership.)
Dude. go to an Oxford English Dictionary and look up "Religion". then slap yourself for not knowing what the definition of religion was when you made this vid.
Anarchy, as you are positing it, has many different definitions. The first definition most people think of when they read Anarchy is a lack of government. Read: LACK OF.
Atheism is not a religion. It is a LACK OF belief in god or gods. I surmise that YOU hold an atheistic view in regards to Zeus. Does that mean YOU have a religion set up for all of the non-believers of Zeus?
When you figure out why you do not believe in Zeus, you will also figure out why I do not believe in your god.
I could write you christians entire books about how and why you are undeniably wrong. But as it would take too long to write on youtube, i will keep it to myself. Did you notice that? what i just did was NOT pushing my beliefs on you, wich christians aren't familliar with. Seriously, if you belief in all-powerfull creatures that consist of everything and yet of nothing, please, for the sake of humanity, keep it to your self-righteous selves.
Sure atheism a type of belief. It's a belief that there're no gods.
It's a natural state; we are born atheists then we get indoctrinated to believe there's a god/ there're gods.
That doesn't make it a religion, which is defined as: the worship of (a) god(s) through a set of rituals.
You're as much an atheist yourself: you don't believe in any other gods except for God, so you're atheistic about the others. We just go one step further.
The foundation of his argument is sound. You have to on some level display a thought process conducive or lucid enough to say something does or does not exist, which does take a form a belief or a belief system, which isn't necessarily a religion,
Who said that the foundation to atheist belief is the big bang theory, or evolution, or anything scientific?
I am an atheist, and neither is the basis for my "belief".
See, when I believed in God, I also believed in big bang and evolution, so those aren't new to me and were in no way a factor of my being an atheist.
Science and atheism are separate. One does not require the other. A lack of a belief in god is the default position. We know this because when we are born, we do not believe in god.
yet another ignorant jesus freak... it amazes me how much human suffering has happened in the name of a god who 'loves us'. why should we be 'god fearing' ? when has fear ever brought out the best in people?
whatthe heck are you talking about? anarchy is not a type of government?!?!? what do you think it is a political party or somthing?!? and yes but there is proof of the big bang, the galaxies are still moving away from each other because of the explosion. show me physical proof of god. it is not faith to beleive in the big bang there is at least some proof.
Atheist = A person without a belief in, or one who lacks belief in the existence of a god or gods; A person who believes that no gods or deities exist
Atheism = According to a study by Barna Research, "roughly 7% of the adult population — approximately 14 million people — describe themselves as atheistic or agnostic. Atheism is not a religion or a complete ethical system
I cant stand one bit of your arguments! Atheism is NOT a belief. It is disbelief! The exact opposite! Believing in the Big Bang theory is not atheism. Atheism is the disbelief in gods.
You mention a "highly improbable explosion." Is this to say that the Big Bang theory is less probable than creationism? There is physical observable evidence that points to the idea of the Big Bang. There is no evidence that suggests it was all created by an all powerful god.
Now you say that believing in such an "improbable explosion" is faith. You said that faith is belief without evidence. There is evidence that points to the big bang, therefore it is not faith.
There are some things I want to point out. As in the dictionary, religion is "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects" Atheism is not a set of beliefs. It is disbelief in any sort of gods.
As for your argument on faith, you say yourself that faith is to believe in something without evidence. Once again, atheists are not BELIEVING in anything without evidence. We disbelieve in something because of the lack of evidence.
not collecting stamps is a hobby im a blasphemer and a fucking heretic HAIL SATAN!
there is no fucking jusus christ
there never was a sacrifice no man upon a crucifix! beware the cult of purity
infectious imbecility
ive made my choice
666!
you'll never touch gods hand,you'll never taste gods breath and you'll never see the second coming i laugh at this abortion known as Christianity Ive seen the ways of god ill take the devil any day
Maybe you should start with the defenition of religion. Religion is the belief in a god or superhuman being. Atheists don't believe in a god or gods so therefore Atheism is not a religion.
But you are correct in saying that Atheism is a belief. The belief that there is absolutely no form of higher power. Religion and belief are not necessarily the same thing.
0:56 you fail so so bad. pick up a damn dictionary. read what anarchy is and facepalm your stupid ass. you cannot have different "sects" of atheism because it isn't a religion. simply because i choose not to believe doesn't mean i have a religion, it is just a term that quantifies that stance and alot of people agree with it. you dissagree and say that it is a religion because you believe in religion and think atheism is something like an "anti-religion religion".
Atheists don't have to believe there is no god, in my gut I don't think there is a god and my common sense says there is probably no god. However, I rarely truely trust my intuition about issues so how can I believe there is nothing like a god that's so unimaginable and mysterious could not exist, therefore I don't believe there is a god and I don't believe there isn't. Does that require any faith or belief? Also, he used contrapositive correctly it's just what he used it on was flawed.
Also notice that this guy has no idea what contraposition is, but uses the term as if he does. No, he lords the term over the viewers. "If you know anything about philosophy or logic..." What a bufoon.
Infaltionary cosmology is not believed on faith. There is alot of evidence. In fact, the theory only came to be accepted in the scientific community, over the steady state theory, after much evidence was amassed - e.g. the distribution of cosmic microwave background radiation, the observation, via the red-shift effect, that more distant galaxies are speeding away at a higher rate than closer ones and the ratio and distribution of different Hydrogen isotopes.
Your analogy that anarchy is a government is absolutely false. Its only called anarchy because when describing governments; for those countries that have no government they need a name. Still not a government since nothing is being governed.
Atheism does take some faith to fill in gaps they don't understand however just saying God did it is a bigger leap of faith in my eyes.
PS: You may want to use a less complicated vocab because you used so many words wrong or awkwardly.
Very Wrong! First off Anarchy is a lack of Government, not a type of one...but in any case you are comparing apples to oranges.
Like many believers in religion, you think your particular brand holds some sort of exception. It does not. You may believe Yahweh is God, but to an Atheist you might as well believe that Mickey Mouse is God. Disbelief in Jehovah or Mickey Mouse does not constitute a religion.
Atheism holds nothing certain. Atheists just don't replace the unknown with "God did it".
I would say that Atheism in most case is about non-belief. Not every atheist go about and make the claim that there is a god, but they certainly don't believe that there is a god. See the difference?
wow....must take a lot to get something through that thick skull.....follow me on this one....
1.take a glass
2. fill it with water (the water represents "religious beliefs")
3. go outside and water your lawn with it
4. take a look in said cup....
..you'll notice that it is EMPTY.....theres no water (no beliefs) in said cup....correct? now please explain how having no beliefs is actually its own set of beliefs...
This is like saying that a computer that has not been programed yet, is a program itself. The lack of a program is proof that someone programed nothing into the computer? Atheism is the base. A baby then would be born into the atheist "religion" because it lacks a belief in a god thus far? Atheism is nothing, just states one has not submitted to any form of religion. If you keep arguing like this it might almost sound like you're arguing that something can be created out of nothing....?
Fail: Atheism is a lack of hubris to invent an answer where there is nothing to base an assertion on. Atheism is the statement that there is no definite evidence to support a conclusion. It is like the question of what caused the Big Bang. Answer: not enough data to draw a conclusion and there may never be.
wow this guy cant even get the question right what an ass. hey if you have proof for god atheist will look at it, but you have no proof. then state we are illogical. so if you say unicorns are real and i say OK prove it and you say i don't need proof i have faith in the reality of unicorns, I am illogical that's fucking retarded think before you speak. by the way faith is the a belief with out the need for proof atheist just ask for proof once you have proof of every thing you claim let us know
your reasoning is deeply flawed, to say that anarchy is a type of governtless government (i don't even know how to put it) is like saying that hunger is a type of eating. This entire video is based on cheap word twisting and i don't buy it.
Is this satire? If it isnt I am verry sorry for you. My suggestion would be: go to school. Start with first grade, after a year your reasoning would be upgraded by 5000%. After 10-15 Years you can come back and understand what the adults are talking about. If this IS satire, I´m sorry, cant tell real christians from parody.
atheism: the DISBELIEF in a god(s), NOT the worship of them.
1 having an opinion on the existance of something doesnt mean that u are religious, b/c in order for an idea to be a religion, u need to worship a diety, which atheism clearly does not.
2 how much faith does it take to believe that there is no flying spaghetty monster 4 u? or any other thing u don't believe in? it doesn't take faith to assume that smething 4 which there is no evidence doesn't exist.
A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality , that gives meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth. Your anarchy analogy is crap. anarchy is lack of government...as in nothing/no one is being governed. just like nonconformity is not conforming, conformity is a fixed standard, non conformity has no fixed standard. You might as well say being democrat, republican, black, white, etc. is a religion.
You seem to think that 'belief' has only religious meaning.
Do you believe the earth revolves around the sun?
If you answer yes, is this a religious view? Or is this a rational view because of the overwhelming rational, testable evidence that is available on the subject?
If belief always has religious overtones, then what do you call your earth goes around the sun religion?
We believe or not in a variety of things. Most of the time these beliefs have nothing supernatural about them.
Wow man, that was some of the worst reasoning I've stumbled across yet. Maybe next time you should have a teacher proof-read your argument so as to save you some embarrassment.
Atheism is not a religion. If you must call it something it would be a belief system. There is no deity or holy writ that sets the guidelines, they are defined by moral decisions that HUMANS make, not a higher power. Also, anarchy comparison doesn't work. Depending on the form of anarchy, it is sometimes a way to create a socialist state though dor the most part it is the non-existance of any government or controlling force, not a style of government.
Atheism is as much a religion as bald is a hairstyle. There would be no need fore the term "atheist" if people didn't posture the existence of gods. Did you even listen to the guy?
Ok i'm not going to form a logical arguement against this video as it is pointless.
The fact that you believe in a "God" is you're choice, however as faith is illogical by definition why should I argue with logic
My arguement is... I read it in a book written hundreds of years ago, in a language I cannot read and written and translated by people years after the event.... therefore I am right :D
Hopefully this type of arguement for atheism is more acceptable to your type of thinking.
You didn't use any logics, let alone, any intelligible sense. LOL
The definition of faith is not illogical. The definition of faith from the Oxford American Dictionary is "complete trust or confidence in something". No where in there does it mention "illogical".
@niter87 Atheist when broken down is non theist. Theist is a belief that the creator of the universe cares about you and has a plan for you. Non-theist is therefore not believing this proposition. The A in Anarchy is not defined the same way as the A in Atheist. Anarchy is, in itself, a completely different word (or system).. it is separate from other words or systems.. Atheist is the antithesis of objective theism. Your argument is horribly constructed, not valid and you are an ignoramus.
@niter87 1. Atheism is the position that the claims of a god existing are not believable. Atheism is the point of view that there is insufficient evidence to declare that god exists. Anarchy is the objective absence of government. There is a problem with your argument about anarchy being a system of government but I will skip that for now. Anarchists believe that the world would be better with no government, that is a faith based position....
Your argument is horrible. You choose not to believe in an ideology because its' book or words were written thousands of years ago in a dead language and translated many times. These facts are irrelevant on deciding whether or not a belief system is really true or not.
Yet, I'm sure you believe that Christopher Columbus existed because its written a book from hundreds of years ago and translated plenty of times.
=/ Im sure you have faith that these text books are expressing the truth.
Faith in a religous sence has no logic or proof. You cant actually prove that a "God" exists.
Actually I dont actually care if Christoper Columbus existed or not.. however if i did care I could research it and find evidence
Slightly off topic, all "history" books (including the bible) can not be taken at face value since they are just a POV . I have had the experience of learning the "history" of slavery from both the "western/european" and "caribbean" view... they are quite different.
@niter87 2. Anarchists have no evidence to support their claim therefore their position is faith. Atheist do not make a claim about anything. We only refuse to believe the claims made by theists, claims which are made with zero evidence. Anarchist create their own claims without evidence Atheists refuse claims which have no evidence. I wish I could think of a way to illustrate that better. But I doubt very much you will even read this.
no, i think you mean if you don't have faith in anything, I used to have faith.
But if your definition of faith is belief without reason evidence or validation then yes that would be why, but its not the lack of the ability it is choice.
You make many good points. Atheist do have a belief and that belief is that there is no god. Many atheist are trying to be slick and get away with not being seen for what they are. Atheism requires faith. Atheist have faith that they have chosen the correct world view. If atheist can prove they have chosen the correct world view I would be more then willing to hear their evidence. If they cannot prove their view is right then they are standing on faith and not on evidence.
saying atheism is a religion and has a belief is like saying a man who does not play sports is an athlete, also anarchy is the absence of government, not a government, it is considered a position people are in just as atheism describes the view they are in. Second atheist stand on what is called a lack of evidence. God has the same amount of evidence as the invisible magic monkey that sits a top my head.
You say atheists have 'faith in atheism' well here's the definition of faith. Faith is a belief of a person idea or thing with no evidence. Having a belief in god is faith believing scientific facts is not faith
Science requires as much faith as religion am a type 1 diabetic and I have faith that the insulin I use to control my blood sugar level works the way science says it does. I do witness positive results. I dont really see how that is different than a religious belief. I see positive results from my faith in god. What is evidence and proof are matters of how we interpret what we witness. Science and religion are different systems of interpreting things. one is not right and the other wrong.
But you don't have faith in your insulin you know it works because there is scientific evidence that it works so you have knowlege not faith. An example of faith is putting money on a sports team having faith in them winning.
You must be joking .... dude atheism IS NOT A RELIGION ... and read the bible ... ''god'' killed more people then satan ... and the bible admits it ... so no offence but im not gona worship a sadist,perverted,mass murdering,retarded,stupid,arogant, ''god''
Arg. Atheism is NOT a belief it is a lack of belief and we need no evidence to disprove god because we do not assert that a god or gods do not exist. Please you seem sensible do not belittle my non belief.
anarchy is a type of government ? i know one thing i won't be paying taxes. anarchy is not a government but more of govern your self with a gun kind of thing
The video you made a response to said that Atheism is not a religion. No one said it is not a belief. Just because something is known as a belief does not make it a religion. I would have to say that you're argument is illogical. Belief does not equal religion. Look up each term in a dictionary. Religion is the belief in a god or some sort of supernatural. Belief is a habit or state of mind in which you place trust in some one or thing, like the idea that god does not exist. You are wrong.
the thing is we atheist know more about cristians than u cristians know about us so don't jump to conclusions about us.what we do is simply use our brain and don't buy whatever they sell us.we don't try to convert u cos we know it can't be done (deep sleep is sweet why would anyone wish to wake up?)so stop fighting us and just accept that we exist,i mean u be;lieve that god exists though u haven't seen him but u see us and want to accept us simply because we're different than you.
I'll concede to you that atheism IS a belief if you will concede to me that the null hypothesis is a belief; that is, if you know science well enough, in the absence of evidence for a claim of something (i.e. in this case, there is a God), you assume the null, which is the lack of (just like I'm assuming you have the null hypothesis for pink elephants, unicorns, elves, goblins, fairies, etc).
I'm assuming you're atheist to every other God(s) not your own. Atheist = one God further.
Get your facts in order. When is being an atheist the same as believing in the big bang? It's a theory. You see we unlike religion as a hole don't claim to know for certain. We do believe knowledge will come as mankind makes scientific progress. To stand at ground zero for thousands of years claming to know it all is what religion do. Please don't insult us in that fashion.
Nubian377 - As I said, religion is the one doing the claim based on the belief of primitive tribes men. What you fail to grasp is that faith has no room for doubt or questions. An atheist questions all the time. I don't like the word faith because it locks humanity in a bubble where it will miss out on everything that makes human human. Discovery, knowledge, searching, answers and truth.
200 years ago many people KNEW the earth was flat. Imagen what you will know to morrow.
there is no set of supernatural rules or beliefs to contribute to atheism, there is no united church of atheism,no collection plate,no book to site atheist commands,atheists dont come to your door wake ur ass up and push their atheism on you, to say that the foundation of atheism is one thing or another is a complete fallacy, atheism is the lack of beliefs in a god or gods, so in a way everyone of us is an atheist,do you believe in zeus? if no than u must subscribe to the big bang by your rules
i look around me an feel love4 common sense, beauty,compassion,etc. and most of all4 love.
i choose&love to provide: a contagiously cheerful friend2have a beer with, a subjectively sincere wise advice,a shoulder2 cry on, a great couple of hours of safe heterosexual "sinful" premarital sex, and a company voided of transparent egotistic wishful-thinking macho-boasting:))
this is what WE r as an individuality.
do we have any purpose left in an infinitely pleasurable heaven?
Anarchy is a state of disorder due to lack of government or control... explain again how it is a type of government??? It is the absence of government just as Atheism is the absence of theism. Why is that so hard to figure out?
Atheism IS a belief but it is not a religion. since when did the words religion and believe/belief become the same thing??
I BELIEVE there is no god, but I am not involved in any RELIGION based around that belief. I also BELIEVE the sun will rise in the morning. That does not mean I belong to a RELIGION that worships the sun!!
A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back he ever wants to see a fucking cross? It's like going up to Jackie Onassis wearing a rifle pendant.
your an idiot atheism is not a belief its a LACK of belief we dont believe in god.the burden of proof is on you, there is no evidence for god so therefore there is most likely no god. you have no evidence of god yet you claim there is a god that sound illogical to me.
You should look up government. It means someone who controls (governs) the people. You cannot have an anarchist government, but that doesn't mean anarchy isn't an ideology. It is an idea of how society should work. Anarchy means no borders, no control, no police, no government body AT ALL
The Big Bang theory is science, which is NOT equal to atheism. Atheism, by definition, does not require you to believe in any scientific theories.
You entire video is made of insensible a priori claims.
atheism as well as agnosticism aren't beliefs because they don't believe at all; everything has to be proven to be considered true. So you could generally say that theists hold on to things they BELIEVE and atheists hold onto things they KNOW! Believing is not relevant to atheism
So theoretically if someday it is proven that God exists (it is an example) with your statement ,H0WLYI, atheists should believe in God, which is nonsense. Agnosticism IS the rational way cause they don't denny God, neither they think HE exists, they only deal with facts. Atheism in the other hand is about Believe,"we have a dogma, God doesn't exist", agnostics say "if I could reach God through reason or science I could believe but as it can't be for the moment i will say...I don't know "
If god was indeed proven, I would be the first to convert. So by this definition, I am somewhere in between atheism and agosticism. I think science has eliminated a great part of christian beliefs (flat earth, creationism, geocentric universe, etc...) and still believing in the everything in the bible would be denying a lot of scientific achievements. So we are now confronted with only two options; believe in science and deny the bible or believe in the bible and deny science.
If god was indeed proven, I would be the first to convert. So by this definition, I am somewhere in between atheism and agosticism. I think science has eliminated a great part of christian beliefs (flat earth, creationism, geocentric universe, etc...) and still believing in the everything in the bible would be denying a lot of scientific achievements. So we are now confronted with only two options; believe in science and deny the bible or believe in the bible and deny science.
Your off somewhat... Atheism and theism revolve around the question "do you believe in god" a yes makes you a theist... Just about any other response makes you an atheist because your unsure about deities existing. Agnosticism isn't a substitute for theism/atheism but actually refusing to answer the question or, if used correctly, just an amplifier. Gnostics claim to know for sure agnostics claim to be unsure. Gnostic atheism is possible but I have yet to meet one.
religion must have a supernatural existence and an afterlife, atheism actually requires a lack of faith.atheists do not assume there is no god, they do not believe in the supernatural.
Atheism is the lack of belief in any God. You might be able to argue that gnostic atheism is a religion, but not the far more common agnostic atheism is not.
Big bang is hypothesis not theory. It's not conjecture either which is a step under hypothesis. You disregard Big Crunch, Big Rip, etc. We're not a religion or even a cult. We have no Messiah, no avatar, no god. We have varying morals. We have no immaculate conception. We are granted nothing for believing. That's fair for you to speak for the "Theists". What if their god exists & yours doesn't? What if they are the same thing? How is your view even religious pluralism? We looked, no god.
2: there is NO assumption, just following the most likely possible explanation. we simply follow that thoery because there is not a more likely theory. A belief in the religious sense implies a belief in something supernatural, while the word applies with 'I believe that 1+1=2', it has an entirely different context
Try to get this in to your scull. Atheist don't believe. They search for facts and provable truths. This however does not include talking snakes, virgin births or a man who was his own father/son and walked on water scaring the fishes in the process. And it certainly don't involve a celestial bully who says. Love me or suffer eternal torment. Grow the fuck up.
it's not faith, it is logic, we put our minds into science which actively tries to explain things, while faith and religion try to explain things in the most simple way
There is no "Before" the big bang. The big bang CREATED TIME. Without time terms like "before" have no meaning. I know that's difficult to understand, but your failing to understand something has no bearing on it's truth value.
However highly improbable the big bang is, an intelligent being capable of not only designing the universe and willing it into existence, but also simultaneously able to receive and understand, as well as respond to the millions of prayers all over the world, is orders of magnitude less likely. Indeed an intelligent creator for the universe does not solve the problem of improbability of creation, it compounds it, since such a god must be far more difficult to create.
First point: Not collecting stamps is not a hobby. Lack of government is not a government, whatever name you give it. Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is a belief but a belief is not the same as a religion.
Second point: You say the universe requires a creator, without giving a reason or evidence, you just assume it to be true. If it's true that the universe requires a creator, then it must be true of god as well, so who created god? continued...
The Big Bang Theory is not the basis of an Athiests views to how the world was began, the big bang theory is the SCIENTIFIC THEORY to TRY to explain how the world began. A true athiest will take it with a grain of salt because it is not proven, merely a possibilty that is discussed, just as he does not percieve God to exist because there is no proof, but it is still an alternative WERE there proof.
Looky here cletus as i stated before, there are good atheist and bad atheist but to get a good person to do a bad thing, well that takes faith/religion.
wow what an idiot!!! holy shit how cloudy does your mind have to be to force a connection like that hahahahahahahahaha please for your own good watch Atheist Myths Debunked video again until his words beat your skull in.... I'm sry if this comes off as an attack but I hate stupid people, and ignorance doesnt help either.
Cont...Weak atheism on the other hand- the atheism defended- is a position taken upon the absence of evidence in support of theism: since no good evidence has been discovered in favor of the existence of any god, we just assume there is none, just like we assume there are no leprechaun orgies taking place in the center of the earth. No faith is needed.
Apparently you blended strong and weak atheism. Strong atheists say that they know there is no- and can´t be- any god; this is a position that needs justification and you would be right to say that they take it on faith if they don´t present any evidence. Cont...
There is no "faith" in science. People don't seem to know what faith means. Faith is belief without evidence. In science, if I'm going to claim that A = B then I have to prove it using blind tests that always result in A = B and, given my method, everyone should be able to find that A = B. I don't have faith that A = B, I know it. If I had no proof that A = B but believed it anyway, I'd have faith that A = B. Science is not faith, it's science.
A religion is a set of beliefs and practices, often centered upon specific supernatural and moral claims about reality, the cosmos, and human nature, and often codified as prayer, ritual, or religious law. Atheists have no songs to learmn don't gather in a building to share the non belief in something, don't have icons, rituals etc therefore Atheism is not a religion. There's no debate about this, simple as that. How can something that is based on the lack of religion can be a religion? it can't
this is not my subjective point of view. What is subjective is my "grade of atheism". What my opinion about how some things are and the level of non acceptance as a personal thought based in my subjective perceception of the world. tere's no mystery whatsoever. take a dictionary or go to wikipedia and check "Doctrine" "Belief" Religion" "Cult" etcetera. I did. the conclusion. Atheism is not a doctrine or belief, is a conclusion, a definition of an attitude towards the supernatural, that's all.
1. The big bang theory is not a theory that states how the universe was created. It explains why the universe seems to expand and how time possibly began. Also keep in mind that it is just a theory, and I as an atheist do not believe it either. And all right, atheists still speculate and how fun with the big questions, but we don't pretend that we are certain about it, and thus it's just a harmless belief and not a dangerous, fundemental assumtion. So why would it matter IF it was a religion?
I have nothing a against atheism, however I'm an advocate of truth and logic.
I think its hypocritical of most atheist to cliam other religions are evil, when communist atheism is responsible for the death of 110 million people.
I also think the mythology of evolution is a joke.
Atheism is based on (if not an absolute truth) logic. So if you really were you'd be an atheist.
There have been genocides commited in the name of christianity by christians, but no genocides have been commited in the name of atheism by atheists. Religion, communism and nazism has killed people, but atheism hasn't.
Regarding evolution - we've seen that it's possible, it fits with the discovery of DNA and everythine else we know - while the magic theory doesn't.
Faith = belief in something without proof (as you said). Science has never pointed at a god. People of science either a) believe something because the evidence points to it or b) don't know. They can make guesses, but in the end they will say "I don't know for sure." There is no evidence to support the existence of god or even the need for one. Scientific theories = backed by evidence. Faith = not backed by evidence. Yes, atheists believe something, but not out of faith.
You don't seem to understand the scientific method. Science backs things up with physical evidence and observation while religion says "it must be so because this book says so". science is not blind, nor is it a belief. It's based on reasonable arguments and thinking, while religion relies on the opposite.
Do you have faith in the nonexistence of the Invisible Pink Unicorn? No, because you do not need faith to realize that one does not exist. In the same way, I do not believe in a deity, but that doesn't require an assumption as you say it does. The duty of proof falls on the proposer of an idea, rather than the person judging the idea.
Everything is a belief in your terms, i believe i will go home tonight, i believe i am alive and not dreaming, i believe if i drop a ball it will fall to the ground, i believe that killing people is wrong. Is there a home going, i'm alive and not dreaming, ball dropping non killing religion? No. Because religions by definition make supernatural claims. Atheist do no not believe in anything supernatural therefore it is not a religion.
Fail. Anarachy is not a Government. It is the opposite, it is a lack of a government. Why is this concept so difficult for theists to grasp. Atheism is not a religion, it is the opposite, it is a lack of religion.
Im glad you corrected yourself and said "definite evidence" instead of "no evidence" for the big bang because you would have been wrong. There is a good amount of evidence to suggest there is no governing force. It is not an assumption, it is physical observable data.
Not sure what you are trying to say.... Atheists say they do not have a belief in any god rather than they believe there is no god. I do not have any faith in anything supernatural. The fiction that atheists have a belief stems from the endless questions from theists such as "what do you believe in".
The point is that a lack of belief does not require proof, the proof is required when you make an assertion. When you say there is a god, YOu are the one that must prove it, it is not the atheist that has to prove that is does not exist.
A religion describes the existence of god(s) and/or supernatural beings AND prescribes rules or methods of interaction with them. Atheism does neither.
People believe in things like the big bang because of evidence. The bible asks you to believe specifically without evidence. (John 20:29, 1 Cor. 1:18-30, 1 Cor. 2(entire chapter lol), 2 Cor 5:7, Heb 11:1, etc) In fact, according to that first reference, it is more blessed to not have evidence than to believe based on evidence.
Atheist
1.
the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2.
disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
This is the dictionary definition of atheist. This belief that there is no god(s) is explained because of the lack of evidence. Lack of evidence at best creates uncertainty, agnosticism. To positively assert "there is no god(s)" requires proof for the position. Atheists decline to fulfill their duty stating that you can't prove a negative, yet they are positive. HMMMM.
MrItchyElbow 4 months ago
@MrItchyElbow LACK of belief There are no myths in atheism. Twice as sure there is no god, as you are that there is. Thats atheism. Duty? WTF?
wondergundy 3 months ago
@wondergundy What, the big accident that just keeps improving itself isn't a myth. Prove it. Twice as sure, how do you measure that? That's atheism, making stupid assertions and hoping that someone out there is gullible enough to take it as fact.
MrItchyElbow 3 months ago
@MrItchyElbow What are you on about. Can't just post your belief and justify it. Everyone is an atheist,even you. Well maybe not you... You might believe anything you are told. All the gods are equally real?. Zeus and Apollo are staging a comeback?.
wondergundy 3 months ago
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@wondergundy Can't just post your belief and justify it?
You might believe anything you are told.
MrItchyElbow 3 months ago
Why do people always think an atheist has to be somebody that believes there is no god? You can be an atheist by simply not believing in a god or gods without making a claim that one does not exist. Thats why not believing isnt a belief. Geez.
Until you can grasp the concept of not believing, you will never get it.
BratvaTV 6 months ago
my religion is "not believing in god".
and my hobby is "not collecting stamps".
and i am addicted to "not taking drugs".
kevio74 7 months ago 2
Atheist when broken down is non theist. Theist is a belief that the sole creator of the universe cares about you and has a plan for you. non theist is therefore not believing this proposition. The A in Anarchy is not defined the same was as the A in Atheist Anarchy is in itself a completely different word.. it is separate from other words.. Atheist is the antithesis of objective theism. Your argument is horribly constructed, not valid and you are an ignoramus.
agronoxdt 9 months ago
so what exactly does anarchy have to do with theism? you think gods create the laws you adhere to? somehow i don't think it was a god came up with talking on the cell phone while driving is illegal, curbing your dog, housing & health codes... faith is belief w/o evidence... no evidence of a god, no reason to believe in it. there is no evidence for leprechauns, goblins, pink unicorns, pegasus, zeus, thor, faeries... do you believe in these things too? a - without, the(os) - god, ism - belief
GodsArePeopleToo 11 months ago
1. A contrapositive of a statement is not the original statement. You need a course in what you call "logics."
2. Anarchy, in your usage, is a state that society is not in. An anarchist is someone who wants to place society in an anarchic state. Therefore, the anarchist wants to effect a state change - a real event, ushering in a real state. (BTW, that is not the political definition of anarchy, which is self-organization among people without declared leadership.)
Ok, bye.
zaphod71828 11 months ago
The bible is translated correctly, ask any person that studies the language.
mbornholdtful 1 year ago
Dude. go to an Oxford English Dictionary and look up "Religion". then slap yourself for not knowing what the definition of religion was when you made this vid.
TheOnlyAttrition 1 year ago
Anarchy, as you are positing it, has many different definitions. The first definition most people think of when they read Anarchy is a lack of government. Read: LACK OF.
Atheism is not a religion. It is a LACK OF belief in god or gods. I surmise that YOU hold an atheistic view in regards to Zeus. Does that mean YOU have a religion set up for all of the non-believers of Zeus?
When you figure out why you do not believe in Zeus, you will also figure out why I do not believe in your god.
TheRationalWill 1 year ago
I could write you christians entire books about how and why you are undeniably wrong. But as it would take too long to write on youtube, i will keep it to myself. Did you notice that? what i just did was NOT pushing my beliefs on you, wich christians aren't familliar with. Seriously, if you belief in all-powerfull creatures that consist of everything and yet of nothing, please, for the sake of humanity, keep it to your self-righteous selves.
MRinsubordination 1 year ago
You're actually adding another myth: that atheists believe in the Big Bang theory.
That's actually pretty stupid and shows you really don't know the meaning of the word.
Atheist:
a = no/without
theist - from deus = god/deity
Look for yourself; no reference to the Big Bang theory ;)
LanteanKnight 1 year ago
Sure atheism a type of belief. It's a belief that there're no gods.
It's a natural state; we are born atheists then we get indoctrinated to believe there's a god/ there're gods.
That doesn't make it a religion, which is defined as: the worship of (a) god(s) through a set of rituals.
You're as much an atheist yourself: you don't believe in any other gods except for God, so you're atheistic about the others. We just go one step further.
LanteanKnight 1 year ago
The foundation of his argument is sound. You have to on some level display a thought process conducive or lucid enough to say something does or does not exist, which does take a form a belief or a belief system, which isn't necessarily a religion,
LaSenoraG 1 year ago
Atheist is as much a belief as not collecting stamps is a hobby.
thisisnotanick 1 year ago
Who said that the foundation to atheist belief is the big bang theory, or evolution, or anything scientific?
I am an atheist, and neither is the basis for my "belief".
See, when I believed in God, I also believed in big bang and evolution, so those aren't new to me and were in no way a factor of my being an atheist.
Science and atheism are separate. One does not require the other. A lack of a belief in god is the default position. We know this because when we are born, we do not believe in god.
tommy605 1 year ago
Oh and the faith part?
Thats just a play with words more or less...
Its like me saying that i have faith in the red apple...
I know the apple is red and i have faith in that the apple truly is red and not green.
I mean cmom Niter87
SpisadKoTunga 1 year ago
Anarchy isnt a type of gouvernment, becuse it is not a gouvernment..
SpisadKoTunga 1 year ago
yet another ignorant jesus freak... it amazes me how much human suffering has happened in the name of a god who 'loves us'. why should we be 'god fearing' ? when has fear ever brought out the best in people?
0106Brandon 1 year ago
whatthe heck are you talking about? anarchy is not a type of government?!?!? what do you think it is a political party or somthing?!? and yes but there is proof of the big bang, the galaxies are still moving away from each other because of the explosion. show me physical proof of god. it is not faith to beleive in the big bang there is at least some proof.
0106Brandon 1 year ago
Atheist = A person without a belief in, or one who lacks belief in the existence of a god or gods; A person who believes that no gods or deities exist
Atheism = According to a study by Barna Research, "roughly 7% of the adult population — approximately 14 million people — describe themselves as atheistic or agnostic. Atheism is not a religion or a complete ethical system
There are religious expert definitions for you.
masonbowen 1 year ago
Dumbass
masonbowen 1 year ago
but an anarchist does believe that governments exist, your analogy would mean atheists would believe in god but not want him to exist.
TheEnviroFriend 1 year ago
atheisum is an understanding, not a belief.
schmidt4all2009 1 year ago
I cant stand one bit of your arguments! Atheism is NOT a belief. It is disbelief! The exact opposite! Believing in the Big Bang theory is not atheism. Atheism is the disbelief in gods.
WattyRev 1 year ago
You mention a "highly improbable explosion." Is this to say that the Big Bang theory is less probable than creationism? There is physical observable evidence that points to the idea of the Big Bang. There is no evidence that suggests it was all created by an all powerful god.
Now you say that believing in such an "improbable explosion" is faith. You said that faith is belief without evidence. There is evidence that points to the big bang, therefore it is not faith.
WattyRev 1 year ago
There are some things I want to point out. As in the dictionary, religion is "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects" Atheism is not a set of beliefs. It is disbelief in any sort of gods.
As for your argument on faith, you say yourself that faith is to believe in something without evidence. Once again, atheists are not BELIEVING in anything without evidence. We disbelieve in something because of the lack of evidence.
WattyRev 1 year ago
not collecting stamps is a hobby im a blasphemer and a fucking heretic HAIL SATAN!
there is no fucking jusus christ
there never was a sacrifice no man upon a crucifix! beware the cult of purity
infectious imbecility
ive made my choice
666!
you'll never touch gods hand,you'll never taste gods breath and you'll never see the second coming i laugh at this abortion known as Christianity Ive seen the ways of god ill take the devil any day
HAIL SATAN!
lucariololol 1 year ago
Maybe you should start with the defenition of religion. Religion is the belief in a god or superhuman being. Atheists don't believe in a god or gods so therefore Atheism is not a religion.
But you are correct in saying that Atheism is a belief. The belief that there is absolutely no form of higher power. Religion and belief are not necessarily the same thing.
Dthe3d 1 year ago
i love the fact that you only had 2 videos posted...your response was stupid...you played with words.
theism...belief that god exist
atheism...the opposite...belief that god doesnt exist
Yes...its a belief.
if anyone said atheism isnt a belief....they are partly correct...atheism is disbelief...or it is belief that what you believe, isn't.
i dont know why i wasted my time watching or replying...but hopefully u waste your time and read this.
jackass
MyNonBelief 1 year ago
Who the hell said atheism isn't a belief? It is a belief in no deities existing. The video was pointing out it is NOT a religion.
ncPsychosis 1 year ago
ur mr gay
Uktrayf 1 year ago
Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby.
chuckc2003 1 year ago 2
the burden of proof lies with you religious morons
heres why
you told the lie
we cant disprove it
you cant prove it
therefore i dont believe in god!
grow up!
MrBlues1993 1 year ago
you poor religious fool...
MrBlues1993 1 year ago
0:56 you fail so so bad. pick up a damn dictionary. read what anarchy is and facepalm your stupid ass. you cannot have different "sects" of atheism because it isn't a religion. simply because i choose not to believe doesn't mean i have a religion, it is just a term that quantifies that stance and alot of people agree with it. you dissagree and say that it is a religion because you believe in religion and think atheism is something like an "anti-religion religion".
steveo3141 2 years ago
Also, atheist doesn't assume there is no God, it demonstrates it.
kyledavidbyron 2 years ago
Anarchy is NOT a type of government just like bald is not a hair color.
kyledavidbyron 2 years ago
Atheists don't have to believe there is no god, in my gut I don't think there is a god and my common sense says there is probably no god. However, I rarely truely trust my intuition about issues so how can I believe there is nothing like a god that's so unimaginable and mysterious could not exist, therefore I don't believe there is a god and I don't believe there isn't. Does that require any faith or belief? Also, he used contrapositive correctly it's just what he used it on was flawed.
TinBryn 2 years ago
Also notice that this guy has no idea what contraposition is, but uses the term as if he does. No, he lords the term over the viewers. "If you know anything about philosophy or logic..." What a bufoon.
musicman30mm 2 years ago
Infaltionary cosmology is not believed on faith. There is alot of evidence. In fact, the theory only came to be accepted in the scientific community, over the steady state theory, after much evidence was amassed - e.g. the distribution of cosmic microwave background radiation, the observation, via the red-shift effect, that more distant galaxies are speeding away at a higher rate than closer ones and the ratio and distribution of different Hydrogen isotopes.
musicman30mm 2 years ago
Your analogy that anarchy is a government is absolutely false. Its only called anarchy because when describing governments; for those countries that have no government they need a name. Still not a government since nothing is being governed.
Atheism does take some faith to fill in gaps they don't understand however just saying God did it is a bigger leap of faith in my eyes.
PS: You may want to use a less complicated vocab because you used so many words wrong or awkwardly.
Da55Moose 2 years ago
This guy is an uneducated arse. He simply does not know what he is talking about.
You talk about the big bang theory being not proved. That's true, but every and all religions is only a theory aswell.
It's the same as saying santa claus is real. Complete fantasy.
I had to stop this video after just one minute as he was JUST SO BORING AND MISGUIDED.
thelevelheadedone 2 years ago
no, hes right.
DazmoTube 2 years ago
WOW!! I'm over come with your compeling argumentative answer. Well done.
thelevelheadedone 2 years ago
id get into more depth but i dont think that it is important that you know anything.
DazmoTube 2 years ago
Wow . . . just wow.
Mugsi 2 years ago
Very Wrong! First off Anarchy is a lack of Government, not a type of one...but in any case you are comparing apples to oranges.
Like many believers in religion, you think your particular brand holds some sort of exception. It does not. You may believe Yahweh is God, but to an Atheist you might as well believe that Mickey Mouse is God. Disbelief in Jehovah or Mickey Mouse does not constitute a religion.
Atheism holds nothing certain. Atheists just don't replace the unknown with "God did it".
dsteitz1 2 years ago 2
You're just silly..
DaKrazyJokesta 2 years ago
atheism is a religion as to not collecting stamps is a hobby.
do you need faith to not believe in Santa Claus , the easter bunny, the flying spaghetti monster?
xxwrecxx 2 years ago
this guy assumes that all atheists beleive in the big bang theory, and thats not true.
so atheism isnt a belief. but i do believe that i just debunked your video.
Mstrofpuppets52 2 years ago
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This guy is so stupid!
Dablasblas123 2 years ago
The analogy doesn't work as anarchy isn't a type of government. It is a word to describe the absence of government.
Ironically the analogy works quite well in support of the position you're trying you're trying to disprove!
kaulbach 2 years ago
I would say that Atheism in most case is about non-belief. Not every atheist go about and make the claim that there is a god, but they certainly don't believe that there is a god. See the difference?
LJonathan 2 years ago
Atheist is the BELIEF that there is no god.... that does NOT make it a religion.
PhilipWitte 2 years ago 2
WOW bro, these are some very weak points you just made. I wont waste time correcting you unless you want me to.
ultradevon04 2 years ago 3
Atheism is a religion like OFF is a television program.
noodles321321 2 years ago 15
Poor analogy. Try again.
pumpei 2 years ago 3
wow....must take a lot to get something through that thick skull.....follow me on this one....
1.take a glass
2. fill it with water (the water represents "religious beliefs")
3. go outside and water your lawn with it
4. take a look in said cup....
..you'll notice that it is EMPTY.....theres no water (no beliefs) in said cup....correct? now please explain how having no beliefs is actually its own set of beliefs...
CRUSH3Rdlux 2 years ago 9
This is like saying that a computer that has not been programed yet, is a program itself. The lack of a program is proof that someone programed nothing into the computer? Atheism is the base. A baby then would be born into the atheist "religion" because it lacks a belief in a god thus far? Atheism is nothing, just states one has not submitted to any form of religion. If you keep arguing like this it might almost sound like you're arguing that something can be created out of nothing....?
cjhindma 2 years ago
Fail: Atheism is a lack of hubris to invent an answer where there is nothing to base an assertion on. Atheism is the statement that there is no definite evidence to support a conclusion. It is like the question of what caused the Big Bang. Answer: not enough data to draw a conclusion and there may never be.
TheNewRenaissance 2 years ago
He never said it wasn't a belief, he said it wasn't a religion. You're arguing with no one. Just making yourself look stupid.
Vaynor 2 years ago
wow this guy cant even get the question right what an ass. hey if you have proof for god atheist will look at it, but you have no proof. then state we are illogical. so if you say unicorns are real and i say OK prove it and you say i don't need proof i have faith in the reality of unicorns, I am illogical that's fucking retarded think before you speak. by the way faith is the a belief with out the need for proof atheist just ask for proof once you have proof of every thing you claim let us know
noproofforjesus 2 years ago
your reasoning is deeply flawed, to say that anarchy is a type of governtless government (i don't even know how to put it) is like saying that hunger is a type of eating. This entire video is based on cheap word twisting and i don't buy it.
And i feel sorry for those who do.
eran5005 2 years ago 3
Is this satire? If it isnt I am verry sorry for you. My suggestion would be: go to school. Start with first grade, after a year your reasoning would be upgraded by 5000%. After 10-15 Years you can come back and understand what the adults are talking about. If this IS satire, I´m sorry, cant tell real christians from parody.
Ultramaggy 2 years ago 3
Congrats on the perfect 1 star rating. I'm impressed.
diin2live 2 years ago
The absence of a government is a government? Are you serious?
I guess bald is a hair color.
FreePlay 2 years ago 2
Anarchists belive that a society doesn't need or shouldn't have a government.
A better example would be people who don't think communism is a good idea.
We wouldn't call them A-communistic, but if a large majority was communists, then we might need a term for the people who aren't.
Also, belief is not religion, I belive I'll some money on my next tax-return, which obviously isn't my religion just because I belive it.
Sooooooooooo, much fail on you sir.
Munkatten 2 years ago
religion: the WORSHIP of a god(s).
atheism: the DISBELIEF in a god(s), NOT the worship of them.
1 having an opinion on the existance of something doesnt mean that u are religious, b/c in order for an idea to be a religion, u need to worship a diety, which atheism clearly does not.
2 how much faith does it take to believe that there is no flying spaghetty monster 4 u? or any other thing u don't believe in? it doesn't take faith to assume that smething 4 which there is no evidence doesn't exist.
kittygirl792 2 years ago
A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality , that gives meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth. Your anarchy analogy is crap. anarchy is lack of government...as in nothing/no one is being governed. just like nonconformity is not conforming, conformity is a fixed standard, non conformity has no fixed standard. You might as well say being democrat, republican, black, white, etc. is a religion.
xgrayson7 2 years ago
You seem to think that 'belief' has only religious meaning.
Do you believe the earth revolves around the sun?
If you answer yes, is this a religious view? Or is this a rational view because of the overwhelming rational, testable evidence that is available on the subject?
If belief always has religious overtones, then what do you call your earth goes around the sun religion?
We believe or not in a variety of things. Most of the time these beliefs have nothing supernatural about them.
Looking4Coffee 2 years ago
Wow man, that was some of the worst reasoning I've stumbled across yet. Maybe next time you should have a teacher proof-read your argument so as to save you some embarrassment.
chill4625 2 years ago
hahahaah
Gravepunishment 2 years ago
Atheism is not a religion. If you must call it something it would be a belief system. There is no deity or holy writ that sets the guidelines, they are defined by moral decisions that HUMANS make, not a higher power. Also, anarchy comparison doesn't work. Depending on the form of anarchy, it is sometimes a way to create a socialist state though dor the most part it is the non-existance of any government or controlling force, not a style of government.
aw3s0m3n1nj4 2 years ago
WTF??
Atheism is as much a religion as bald is a hairstyle. There would be no need fore the term "atheist" if people didn't posture the existence of gods. Did you even listen to the guy?
apostatesprostate 2 years ago
Ok i'm not going to form a logical arguement against this video as it is pointless.
The fact that you believe in a "God" is you're choice, however as faith is illogical by definition why should I argue with logic
My arguement is... I read it in a book written hundreds of years ago, in a language I cannot read and written and translated by people years after the event.... therefore I am right :D
Hopefully this type of arguement for atheism is more acceptable to your type of thinking.
richard2k5 2 years ago
You didn't use any logics, let alone, any intelligible sense. LOL
The definition of faith is not illogical. The definition of faith from the Oxford American Dictionary is "complete trust or confidence in something". No where in there does it mention "illogical".
niter87 2 years ago
@niter87 Atheist when broken down is non theist. Theist is a belief that the creator of the universe cares about you and has a plan for you. Non-theist is therefore not believing this proposition. The A in Anarchy is not defined the same way as the A in Atheist. Anarchy is, in itself, a completely different word (or system).. it is separate from other words or systems.. Atheist is the antithesis of objective theism. Your argument is horribly constructed, not valid and you are an ignoramus.
agronoxdt 9 months ago
@niter87 1. Atheism is the position that the claims of a god existing are not believable. Atheism is the point of view that there is insufficient evidence to declare that god exists. Anarchy is the objective absence of government. There is a problem with your argument about anarchy being a system of government but I will skip that for now. Anarchists believe that the world would be better with no government, that is a faith based position....
agronoxdt 9 months ago
Your argument is horrible. You choose not to believe in an ideology because its' book or words were written thousands of years ago in a dead language and translated many times. These facts are irrelevant on deciding whether or not a belief system is really true or not.
Yet, I'm sure you believe that Christopher Columbus existed because its written a book from hundreds of years ago and translated plenty of times.
=/ Im sure you have faith that these text books are expressing the truth.
niter87 2 years ago
Faith in a religous sence has no logic or proof. You cant actually prove that a "God" exists.
Actually I dont actually care if Christoper Columbus existed or not.. however if i did care I could research it and find evidence
Slightly off topic, all "history" books (including the bible) can not be taken at face value since they are just a POV . I have had the experience of learning the "history" of slavery from both the "western/european" and "caribbean" view... they are quite different.
richard2k5 2 years ago
@niter87 2. Anarchists have no evidence to support their claim therefore their position is faith. Atheist do not make a claim about anything. We only refuse to believe the claims made by theists, claims which are made with zero evidence. Anarchist create their own claims without evidence Atheists refuse claims which have no evidence. I wish I could think of a way to illustrate that better. But I doubt very much you will even read this.
agronoxdt 9 months ago
Idiot
sebd2507 2 years ago
You're dumb as shit.
CHVNX 2 years ago
man you idiot, you need to research the big bang, it is not an explosion that created everything, it is simply as far back as you can go.
bkstudio1990 2 years ago
i think atheists lack the ability to have faith
not just in god in anything, if you never had faith in anything then obviously youd see god as bullshit
Koptfoeva 2 years ago
no, i think you mean if you don't have faith in anything, I used to have faith.
But if your definition of faith is belief without reason evidence or validation then yes that would be why, but its not the lack of the ability it is choice.
bkstudio1990 2 years ago
You make many good points. Atheist do have a belief and that belief is that there is no god. Many atheist are trying to be slick and get away with not being seen for what they are. Atheism requires faith. Atheist have faith that they have chosen the correct world view. If atheist can prove they have chosen the correct world view I would be more then willing to hear their evidence. If they cannot prove their view is right then they are standing on faith and not on evidence.
phlewis86 2 years ago
saying atheism is a religion and has a belief is like saying a man who does not play sports is an athlete, also anarchy is the absence of government, not a government, it is considered a position people are in just as atheism describes the view they are in. Second atheist stand on what is called a lack of evidence. God has the same amount of evidence as the invisible magic monkey that sits a top my head.
bkstudio1990 2 years ago
You say atheists have 'faith in atheism' well here's the definition of faith. Faith is a belief of a person idea or thing with no evidence. Having a belief in god is faith believing scientific facts is not faith
Atheisttilldeath 2 years ago
Science requires as much faith as religion am a type 1 diabetic and I have faith that the insulin I use to control my blood sugar level works the way science says it does. I do witness positive results. I dont really see how that is different than a religious belief. I see positive results from my faith in god. What is evidence and proof are matters of how we interpret what we witness. Science and religion are different systems of interpreting things. one is not right and the other wrong.
phlewis86 2 years ago
Correction. There should be a period after religion and "I" in front of "am".
phlewis86 2 years ago
But you don't have faith in your insulin you know it works because there is scientific evidence that it works so you have knowlege not faith. An example of faith is putting money on a sports team having faith in them winning.
Atheisttilldeath 2 years ago
atheism has nothing to do whit the big bang theory or eny other theory
the only thing atheism means is no belief in a god " others explains that better but still"
there are atheist that beliefs in the supernatural etc
and on the religion myth no belief = belief ??
o and last if you find prof of God i will start to believe i follow logic so find that prof and you got one less atheist to worry about
dragon1ord 2 years ago
You must be joking .... dude atheism IS NOT A RELIGION ... and read the bible ... ''god'' killed more people then satan ... and the bible admits it ... so no offence but im not gona worship a sadist,perverted,mass murdering,retarded,stupid,arogant, ''god''
pyro7virus 2 years ago
Arg. Atheism is NOT a belief it is a lack of belief and we need no evidence to disprove god because we do not assert that a god or gods do not exist. Please you seem sensible do not belittle my non belief.
TylerBoBylerFyler 2 years ago
anarchy is a type of government ? i know one thing i won't be paying taxes. anarchy is not a government but more of govern your self with a gun kind of thing
xcon99 2 years ago 2
anarchy is a type of government ? i know one thing i won't be paying taxes
xcon99 2 years ago 3
The video you made a response to said that Atheism is not a religion. No one said it is not a belief. Just because something is known as a belief does not make it a religion. I would have to say that you're argument is illogical. Belief does not equal religion. Look up each term in a dictionary. Religion is the belief in a god or some sort of supernatural. Belief is a habit or state of mind in which you place trust in some one or thing, like the idea that god does not exist. You are wrong.
bcox777 2 years ago
the thing is we atheist know more about cristians than u cristians know about us so don't jump to conclusions about us.what we do is simply use our brain and don't buy whatever they sell us.we don't try to convert u cos we know it can't be done (deep sleep is sweet why would anyone wish to wake up?)so stop fighting us and just accept that we exist,i mean u be;lieve that god exists though u haven't seen him but u see us and want to accept us simply because we're different than you.
christine13black 3 years ago
Dude crack smoking is bad for your brain haven't you figured it out yet ?
lizardofahaz 3 years ago
sorry to say that but religion is bad for the brain cos crack smoking is a sin right?or at least that's how they address it
christine13black 3 years ago
Uh dude.. anarchy is not a form of governement.. thats just stupid.
Slimboyfat1979 3 years ago
I'll concede to you that atheism IS a belief if you will concede to me that the null hypothesis is a belief; that is, if you know science well enough, in the absence of evidence for a claim of something (i.e. in this case, there is a God), you assume the null, which is the lack of (just like I'm assuming you have the null hypothesis for pink elephants, unicorns, elves, goblins, fairies, etc).
I'm assuming you're atheist to every other God(s) not your own. Atheist = one God further.
LongHWin 3 years ago
Get your facts in order. When is being an atheist the same as believing in the big bang? It's a theory. You see we unlike religion as a hole don't claim to know for certain. We do believe knowledge will come as mankind makes scientific progress. To stand at ground zero for thousands of years claming to know it all is what religion do. Please don't insult us in that fashion.
Rastelin 3 years ago
But your absolute claim that there is no God, implies faith, which is in fact a belief.
An agnostic would be in a much better position.
nubian377 3 years ago
Nubian377 - As I said, religion is the one doing the claim based on the belief of primitive tribes men. What you fail to grasp is that faith has no room for doubt or questions. An atheist questions all the time. I don't like the word faith because it locks humanity in a bubble where it will miss out on everything that makes human human. Discovery, knowledge, searching, answers and truth.
200 years ago many people KNEW the earth was flat. Imagen what you will know to morrow.
Rastelin 3 years ago
there is no set of supernatural rules or beliefs to contribute to atheism, there is no united church of atheism,no collection plate,no book to site atheist commands,atheists dont come to your door wake ur ass up and push their atheism on you, to say that the foundation of atheism is one thing or another is a complete fallacy, atheism is the lack of beliefs in a god or gods, so in a way everyone of us is an atheist,do you believe in zeus? if no than u must subscribe to the big bang by your rules
xd1rtx 3 years ago
hi dude.
in your most objective opinion, what r the chances u'll go 2 heaven?
at least50% 4 being good&humble? maybe 75%by comparison 2 atheists?
the way i c it, atheism is the RESULT of UNBIASED scientific research.
heaven is the result of subjectively choosing eternal life.
it's ok, as an individuality, i can picture nothing better than infinite pleasurable existence.
but WHY SHOULD I exist 4ever? 2what PURPOSE?
"because god loves u" is a cause, i' asking "2 what effect?"
lake7less 3 years ago
i know what 2do here.
i look around me an feel love4 common sense, beauty,compassion,etc. and most of all4 love.
i choose&love to provide: a contagiously cheerful friend2have a beer with, a subjectively sincere wise advice,a shoulder2 cry on, a great couple of hours of safe heterosexual "sinful" premarital sex, and a company voided of transparent egotistic wishful-thinking macho-boasting:))
this is what WE r as an individuality.
do we have any purpose left in an infinitely pleasurable heaven?
lake7less 3 years ago
Anarchy is a state of disorder due to lack of government or control... explain again how it is a type of government??? It is the absence of government just as Atheism is the absence of theism. Why is that so hard to figure out?
raistlin072 3 years ago
Atheism IS a belief but it is not a religion. since when did the words religion and believe/belief become the same thing??
I BELIEVE there is no god, but I am not involved in any RELIGION based around that belief. I also BELIEVE the sun will rise in the morning. That does not mean I belong to a RELIGION that worships the sun!!
raistlin072 3 years ago
Atheism Is NOT a BELIEF.
It's Simply a DISBELIEF.
razujoen 3 years ago
well said my friend but i still must say
religions are weird
A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back he ever wants to see a fucking cross? It's like going up to Jackie Onassis wearing a rifle pendant.
Jambi321 3 years ago
your an idiot atheism is not a belief its a LACK of belief we dont believe in god.the burden of proof is on you, there is no evidence for god so therefore there is most likely no god. you have no evidence of god yet you claim there is a god that sound illogical to me.
GeddupNoize 3 years ago
lol, what? your basically just restating it in different context.
but your basically saying you dont believe, period.
idk what your getting too man but i believe im here right now
if you could help me out, then let me know what drugs your on
Jambi321 3 years ago
You should look up government. It means someone who controls (governs) the people. You cannot have an anarchist government, but that doesn't mean anarchy isn't an ideology. It is an idea of how society should work. Anarchy means no borders, no control, no police, no government body AT ALL
The Big Bang theory is science, which is NOT equal to atheism. Atheism, by definition, does not require you to believe in any scientific theories.
You entire video is made of insensible a priori claims.
JodaSFU 3 years ago
You sir, are a moron.
I hold no preference or affiliation to a religion, therefore, I am an atheist.
Atheism does not require faith.
We have theory. Kind of like the teory of gravity. I'm pretty sure you believe in that, don't you?
The debunking of atheist myths was to help people like you understand atheism better, not to make you power up your webcam and argue.
Oh and anarchy is defined as "a social structure WIHTOUT government or law and order," ergo it is not a type of government.
Arrieth 3 years ago
Anarchy by definition is just an absence of government... A Capital-Anarchic society would be a type of government. Well put my friend :)
U4godlike 3 years ago
atheism as well as agnosticism aren't beliefs because they don't believe at all; everything has to be proven to be considered true. So you could generally say that theists hold on to things they BELIEVE and atheists hold onto things they KNOW! Believing is not relevant to atheism
H0WLYl 3 years ago
So theoretically if someday it is proven that God exists (it is an example) with your statement ,H0WLYI, atheists should believe in God, which is nonsense. Agnosticism IS the rational way cause they don't denny God, neither they think HE exists, they only deal with facts. Atheism in the other hand is about Believe,"we have a dogma, God doesn't exist", agnostics say "if I could reach God through reason or science I could believe but as it can't be for the moment i will say...I don't know "
TailsSpain 3 years ago
If god was indeed proven, I would be the first to convert. So by this definition, I am somewhere in between atheism and agosticism. I think science has eliminated a great part of christian beliefs (flat earth, creationism, geocentric universe, etc...) and still believing in the everything in the bible would be denying a lot of scientific achievements. So we are now confronted with only two options; believe in science and deny the bible or believe in the bible and deny science.
H0WLYl 3 years ago
If god was indeed proven, I would be the first to convert. So by this definition, I am somewhere in between atheism and agosticism. I think science has eliminated a great part of christian beliefs (flat earth, creationism, geocentric universe, etc...) and still believing in the everything in the bible would be denying a lot of scientific achievements. So we are now confronted with only two options; believe in science and deny the bible or believe in the bible and deny science.
H0WLYl 3 years ago
Your off somewhat... Atheism and theism revolve around the question "do you believe in god" a yes makes you a theist... Just about any other response makes you an atheist because your unsure about deities existing. Agnosticism isn't a substitute for theism/atheism but actually refusing to answer the question or, if used correctly, just an amplifier. Gnostics claim to know for sure agnostics claim to be unsure. Gnostic atheism is possible but I have yet to meet one.
U4godlike 3 years ago 2
religion must have a supernatural existence and an afterlife, atheism actually requires a lack of faith.atheists do not assume there is no god, they do not believe in the supernatural.
westfalla 3 years ago
Atheism means
A---negation
theos---God
ism----thought
TailsSpain 3 years ago
Atheism is the lack of belief in any God. You might be able to argue that gnostic atheism is a religion, but not the far more common agnostic atheism is not.
westfalla 3 years ago
I would be interested if anyone could find an gnostic atheist... I am pretty skeptical they even exist :P
U4godlike 3 years ago
niter87, you should research your points before making them! (strange vlog) 1 star.
melbn 3 years ago
Big bang is hypothesis not theory. It's not conjecture either which is a step under hypothesis. You disregard Big Crunch, Big Rip, etc. We're not a religion or even a cult. We have no Messiah, no avatar, no god. We have varying morals. We have no immaculate conception. We are granted nothing for believing. That's fair for you to speak for the "Theists". What if their god exists & yours doesn't? What if they are the same thing? How is your view even religious pluralism? We looked, no god.
Mephistophilus 3 years ago
Big Band is a theory not a hypothesis.
U4godlike 3 years ago
Agreed. I put them in the wrong order or it was temporary stupidity.
Mephistophilus 3 years ago
Anarchy is a type of goverment? =)
molokobic 3 years ago
1: word play and reality are not the same
2: there is NO assumption, just following the most likely possible explanation. we simply follow that thoery because there is not a more likely theory. A belief in the religious sense implies a belief in something supernatural, while the word applies with 'I believe that 1+1=2', it has an entirely different context
KwantumPsyentisd 3 years ago 3
Try to get this in to your scull. Atheist don't believe. They search for facts and provable truths. This however does not include talking snakes, virgin births or a man who was his own father/son and walked on water scaring the fishes in the process. And it certainly don't involve a celestial bully who says. Love me or suffer eternal torment. Grow the fuck up.
Rastelin 3 years ago
you say the big bang has no evidence, but what evidence is presented that god exists?
hitemup71492 3 years ago
it's not faith, it is logic, we put our minds into science which actively tries to explain things, while faith and religion try to explain things in the most simple way
caleb11583 3 years ago
What was before the big bang, an atheists ?
jacobsobchack 3 years ago
There is no "Before" the big bang. The big bang CREATED TIME. Without time terms like "before" have no meaning. I know that's difficult to understand, but your failing to understand something has no bearing on it's truth value.
cyxgun 3 years ago
However highly improbable the big bang is, an intelligent being capable of not only designing the universe and willing it into existence, but also simultaneously able to receive and understand, as well as respond to the millions of prayers all over the world, is orders of magnitude less likely. Indeed an intelligent creator for the universe does not solve the problem of improbability of creation, it compounds it, since such a god must be far more difficult to create.
cyxgun 3 years ago
First point: Not collecting stamps is not a hobby. Lack of government is not a government, whatever name you give it. Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is a belief but a belief is not the same as a religion.
Second point: You say the universe requires a creator, without giving a reason or evidence, you just assume it to be true. If it's true that the universe requires a creator, then it must be true of god as well, so who created god? continued...
cyxgun 3 years ago
Goddamn right on. Very valid point!
caleb11583 3 years ago
The Big Bang Theory is not the basis of an Athiests views to how the world was began, the big bang theory is the SCIENTIFIC THEORY to TRY to explain how the world began. A true athiest will take it with a grain of salt because it is not proven, merely a possibilty that is discussed, just as he does not percieve God to exist because there is no proof, but it is still an alternative WERE there proof.
Wabbitkilla 3 years ago
if bill clinton says he did not have sex, and
still got a blow job then atheism is not a religion, yea, i get what your saying and agree.
datzfast 3 years ago
This guy ain't to smart lol.
Looky here cletus as i stated before, there are good atheist and bad atheist but to get a good person to do a bad thing, well that takes faith/religion.
btiggy420 3 years ago
llololollollollololololololololololololollooolloolololollololollololololollolololololololollolololololol!!!!
wow what an idiot!!! holy shit how cloudy does your mind have to be to force a connection like that hahahahahahahahaha please for your own good watch Atheist Myths Debunked video again until his words beat your skull in.... I'm sry if this comes off as an attack but I hate stupid people, and ignorance doesnt help either.
seeroknow 3 years ago
Anarchy is a kind of government and atheism is a religion... haha, FAIL! xD
LVskywalker 3 years ago
Being both atheist AND anarchist I found that especially entertaining.
Kaiserpingvin 3 years ago
Cont...Weak atheism on the other hand- the atheism defended- is a position taken upon the absence of evidence in support of theism: since no good evidence has been discovered in favor of the existence of any god, we just assume there is none, just like we assume there are no leprechaun orgies taking place in the center of the earth. No faith is needed.
NeuroticoAnonimo 3 years ago
Apparently you blended strong and weak atheism. Strong atheists say that they know there is no- and can´t be- any god; this is a position that needs justification and you would be right to say that they take it on faith if they don´t present any evidence. Cont...
NeuroticoAnonimo 3 years ago
There is no "faith" in science. People don't seem to know what faith means. Faith is belief without evidence. In science, if I'm going to claim that A = B then I have to prove it using blind tests that always result in A = B and, given my method, everyone should be able to find that A = B. I don't have faith that A = B, I know it. If I had no proof that A = B but believed it anyway, I'd have faith that A = B. Science is not faith, it's science.
Skorst 3 years ago
A religion is a set of beliefs and practices, often centered upon specific supernatural and moral claims about reality, the cosmos, and human nature, and often codified as prayer, ritual, or religious law. Atheists have no songs to learmn don't gather in a building to share the non belief in something, don't have icons, rituals etc therefore Atheism is not a religion. There's no debate about this, simple as that. How can something that is based on the lack of religion can be a religion? it can't
Athrek 3 years ago
" Atheists have no songs to learmn don't gather in a building to share the non belief in something, don't have icons"
This statment is only based on you subjective view of what an atheist is.
I dont think you understand the meaning of atheism:The doctrine or belief that there is no God.
So by the definition the word, and not my subjective view atheism is a belief system.
tvshowclassics 3 years ago
this is not my subjective point of view. What is subjective is my "grade of atheism". What my opinion about how some things are and the level of non acceptance as a personal thought based in my subjective perceception of the world. tere's no mystery whatsoever. take a dictionary or go to wikipedia and check "Doctrine" "Belief" Religion" "Cult" etcetera. I did. the conclusion. Atheism is not a doctrine or belief, is a conclusion, a definition of an attitude towards the supernatural, that's all.
Athrek 3 years ago
1. The big bang theory is not a theory that states how the universe was created. It explains why the universe seems to expand and how time possibly began. Also keep in mind that it is just a theory, and I as an atheist do not believe it either. And all right, atheists still speculate and how fun with the big questions, but we don't pretend that we are certain about it, and thus it's just a harmless belief and not a dangerous, fundemental assumtion. So why would it matter IF it was a religion?
damillionmalania 3 years ago
damillionmalania:
you seem like a reasonable person.
I have nothing a against atheism, however I'm an advocate of truth and logic.
I think its hypocritical of most atheist to cliam other religions are evil, when communist atheism is responsible for the death of 110 million people.
I also think the mythology of evolution is a joke.
tvshowclassics 3 years ago
Atheism is based on (if not an absolute truth) logic. So if you really were you'd be an atheist.
There have been genocides commited in the name of christianity by christians, but no genocides have been commited in the name of atheism by atheists. Religion, communism and nazism has killed people, but atheism hasn't.
Regarding evolution - we've seen that it's possible, it fits with the discovery of DNA and everythine else we know - while the magic theory doesn't.
damillionmalania 3 years ago
Faith = belief in something without proof (as you said). Science has never pointed at a god. People of science either a) believe something because the evidence points to it or b) don't know. They can make guesses, but in the end they will say "I don't know for sure." There is no evidence to support the existence of god or even the need for one. Scientific theories = backed by evidence. Faith = not backed by evidence. Yes, atheists believe something, but not out of faith.
Skorst 3 years ago
skorst
Yes, atheists believe something, but not out of faith.
according to your statments its clear to see your misunderstanding of faith.
every thing you know and believe is faith based.
Even science is faith based for example the theory of evolution, no proof to support it just blind faith.
science may call it theory however its still the same as faith.
tvshowclassics 3 years ago
You don't seem to understand the scientific method. Science backs things up with physical evidence and observation while religion says "it must be so because this book says so". science is not blind, nor is it a belief. It's based on reasonable arguments and thinking, while religion relies on the opposite.
damillionmalania 3 years ago
Do you have faith in the nonexistence of the Invisible Pink Unicorn? No, because you do not need faith to realize that one does not exist. In the same way, I do not believe in a deity, but that doesn't require an assumption as you say it does. The duty of proof falls on the proposer of an idea, rather than the person judging the idea.
sykCalduil 3 years ago
Everything is a belief in your terms, i believe i will go home tonight, i believe i am alive and not dreaming, i believe if i drop a ball it will fall to the ground, i believe that killing people is wrong. Is there a home going, i'm alive and not dreaming, ball dropping non killing religion? No. Because religions by definition make supernatural claims. Atheist do no not believe in anything supernatural therefore it is not a religion.
MilkyJoe86 3 years ago
Fail. Anarachy is not a Government. It is the opposite, it is a lack of a government. Why is this concept so difficult for theists to grasp. Atheism is not a religion, it is the opposite, it is a lack of religion.
Im glad you corrected yourself and said "definite evidence" instead of "no evidence" for the big bang because you would have been wrong. There is a good amount of evidence to suggest there is no governing force. It is not an assumption, it is physical observable data.
MilkyJoe86 3 years ago
Atheism is the lack of religion.
FSMichael 3 years ago
Not sure what you are trying to say.... Atheists say they do not have a belief in any god rather than they believe there is no god. I do not have any faith in anything supernatural. The fiction that atheists have a belief stems from the endless questions from theists such as "what do you believe in".
SayNo2ClosedMinds 3 years ago
The point is that a lack of belief does not require proof, the proof is required when you make an assertion. When you say there is a god, YOu are the one that must prove it, it is not the atheist that has to prove that is does not exist.
PyWiz 3 years ago
Why do you keep saying 'belief' rather than 'religion'?
There is a big difference.
'Atheism is not a religion' was the original claim he made.
CaeruleanXII 3 years ago
A religion describes the existence of god(s) and/or supernatural beings AND prescribes rules or methods of interaction with them. Atheism does neither.
People believe in things like the big bang because of evidence. The bible asks you to believe specifically without evidence. (John 20:29, 1 Cor. 1:18-30, 1 Cor. 2(entire chapter lol), 2 Cor 5:7, Heb 11:1, etc) In fact, according to that first reference, it is more blessed to not have evidence than to believe based on evidence.
CaeruleanXII 3 years ago