okay... im not a super experienced climber or anything... but the use of simply double wrapping a carabiner is standard use for a lot of military schools and works just fine. I dont see a riggers belt as a good idea to use when you have the option not to but in a pinch... I guess its doable. Most rigger's belts aren't going to come undone since the friction modifier on it is much the same as the ones used on cargo bags that hold thousands of lbs on sling loads.
lots of effort for an "emergency" situation. Perhaps change the title to reflect what this is: an alternate to a full rappelling harness. In an emergency, you could probably have just climbed down that hill (not a cliff soz) in the time it took to tie all the gear together.
not exactly. how are you going to "climb down" the side of a building, for instance? urban environments are the most likely scenario you're going to find yourself needing an emergency rope escape. it took him about a minute and a half, and he was going slow. if you practice this, and are in a hurry, you can get over the side and down in about 60 seconds- including anchoring. ask any fireman.
If you already have the caribiner, heavy rope, cordelet, etc., shouldn't you also have the harness? I was hoping for a more "bare bones" demonstration, if you literally just have the rigger's belt and some rope. If this isn't possible, so be it - but if someone can do it, I'd love to see it.
@icychap the method you're talking about, callled the "Swiss Seat", basically has you tying a harness with a length of rope. It is super uncomfortable but in a survival situation I don't think you'll really be complaining :)
Always carry a carabiner. I have 2 on me at all times (My direct key chain, Petzl AM'D TriAct and attached 1 Metolius FS Mini)
Double the length of your 550 boot laces. If you need to make a sketchy prusik wrap. You could pull one lace. Cut the other in half and re-lace your boots w/ the two halves. Drop in a double fisherman's in the long line. Prusik up. Sure you want to make a bomber prusik line and have a bomber anchor but sometimes you can't.
@tupelosurfer Actually I've done both and find that the Prusik is easier to handle being on the carabiner and operated with my support side hand. Thanks for the kind words. ~ Bryan
I would strongly recommend using a Munter hitch in addition to a Prusik loop to rappel at bare minimum. Just looping the 'biner twice and relying on a Prusik is unsat...
@meatabuse First of all it's not "unsat" and is what is still being taught today by many climbers. Yes, the Munter hitch is superior to the standard looping being demonstrated, but you can't tell me that if for some reason I was to let go, that the Prusik wouldn't hold because it does. ~ Bryan
@ITStactical I wouldn't suggest that the Prusik wouldn't hold you, however there are other reasons to use the Munter in place of plain loops primarily the added control and locking strength on the rope.
If you so happened to let go the Prusik should lock up around the rope. In order to release it you need to Jumar a little back up the rope and release it. I think we can agree that's far easier to accomplish with a Munter than just loops.
A Munter can also be locked with a slip knot in case you need to deal with any contingencies.
If your goal was only to descend quickly then fair enough your system does that. But aside from the Prusik loop there is no redundancy for safety. Some might consider that inadequate.
@ITStactical Agreed the prusik would hold. I was tree climbing Wednesday 2010-08-25 and used 3 prusik lines to ascend and descend the tree. In fact, to test them out I bounced on 1 prusik with all my weight when I was 2ft off the ground. Great vids as always. More.
The munter would give you allot more control... I've not seen that method taught by any climber any more. And with the amount of equipment you don't have with the prusik being above the belay device it's going to be quiet hard to escape once it locks up. Something like an autoblock would be able to be released under load.
Do you know if it's ok to hook up like in Call of Duty if you used a locking carabineer?
Crazysniperman 2 weeks ago
okay... im not a super experienced climber or anything... but the use of simply double wrapping a carabiner is standard use for a lot of military schools and works just fine. I dont see a riggers belt as a good idea to use when you have the option not to but in a pinch... I guess its doable. Most rigger's belts aren't going to come undone since the friction modifier on it is much the same as the ones used on cargo bags that hold thousands of lbs on sling loads.
SWZ32TT 1 month ago
were is this
banerization 2 months ago
No offence but by the time hes done the guys dead
catslayer00 3 months ago
your gonna die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GUIDESPERSPECTIVE 6 months ago
Get a proper harness and rappel device, unless you like nasty surprises.
jimh527 6 months ago
Very good!
I'm putting together a survival kit and to learn Rapel because Japan happens very natural disasters.
This type of instruction helps a lot!
All the best!
paulosemifusa 7 months ago
Thanks for these great videos using 215 Gear equipment!
LiamusShakirus 10 months ago
To all the sharpshooters..... F&%K YOU!!!! Where is your video fatty???
ddowell73 10 months ago
nice but not sure about the prusik if it locked up it you'd catch hell gettin it loose....in an emergency forget self belay
linkin622 1 year ago
lots of effort for an "emergency" situation. Perhaps change the title to reflect what this is: an alternate to a full rappelling harness. In an emergency, you could probably have just climbed down that hill (not a cliff soz) in the time it took to tie all the gear together.
zreiser 1 year ago
@zreiser
not exactly. how are you going to "climb down" the side of a building, for instance? urban environments are the most likely scenario you're going to find yourself needing an emergency rope escape. it took him about a minute and a half, and he was going slow. if you practice this, and are in a hurry, you can get over the side and down in about 60 seconds- including anchoring. ask any fireman.
bkb0000 1 year ago
If you already have the caribiner, heavy rope, cordelet, etc., shouldn't you also have the harness? I was hoping for a more "bare bones" demonstration, if you literally just have the rigger's belt and some rope. If this isn't possible, so be it - but if someone can do it, I'd love to see it.
icychap 1 year ago
@icychap the method you're talking about, callled the "Swiss Seat", basically has you tying a harness with a length of rope. It is super uncomfortable but in a survival situation I don't think you'll really be complaining :)
Raptyr 2 weeks ago
Did you just cut the legs off some pants for those? Hem those suckas up!
woodywilde 1 year ago
love the shout out over the ridge. Now you need to show footage of you on your way down.
hinckleypoland 1 year ago
My suggestions:
Always carry a carabiner. I have 2 on me at all times (My direct key chain, Petzl AM'D TriAct and attached 1 Metolius FS Mini)
Double the length of your 550 boot laces. If you need to make a sketchy prusik wrap. You could pull one lace. Cut the other in half and re-lace your boots w/ the two halves. Drop in a double fisherman's in the long line. Prusik up. Sure you want to make a bomber prusik line and have a bomber anchor but sometimes you can't.
Learn Monster Munter Hitch.
revisualize 1 year ago
@ReadyPrepper Agreed. Static rope does indeed become twisted after multiple rappels. Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed the video! ~ Bryan
ITStactical 1 year ago
Well done, Of course if I have caribiners and a rope, I'll probably have an atc or fig 8.
beast12101 1 year ago
this is a very good instruction
mysciencenow 1 year ago
@tupelosurfer Actually I've done both and find that the Prusik is easier to handle being on the carabiner and operated with my support side hand. Thanks for the kind words. ~ Bryan
ITStactical 1 year ago
I would strongly recommend using a Munter hitch in addition to a Prusik loop to rappel at bare minimum. Just looping the 'biner twice and relying on a Prusik is unsat...
meatabuse 1 year ago
@meatabuse First of all it's not "unsat" and is what is still being taught today by many climbers. Yes, the Munter hitch is superior to the standard looping being demonstrated, but you can't tell me that if for some reason I was to let go, that the Prusik wouldn't hold because it does. ~ Bryan
ITStactical 1 year ago
@ITStactical I wouldn't suggest that the Prusik wouldn't hold you, however there are other reasons to use the Munter in place of plain loops primarily the added control and locking strength on the rope.
If you so happened to let go the Prusik should lock up around the rope. In order to release it you need to Jumar a little back up the rope and release it. I think we can agree that's far easier to accomplish with a Munter than just loops.
meatabuse 1 year ago
A Munter can also be locked with a slip knot in case you need to deal with any contingencies.
If your goal was only to descend quickly then fair enough your system does that. But aside from the Prusik loop there is no redundancy for safety. Some might consider that inadequate.
meatabuse 1 year ago
@meatabuse I prefer the monster munter over the book munter. Youtube search it.
revisualize 1 year ago
@ITStactical Agreed the prusik would hold. I was tree climbing Wednesday 2010-08-25 and used 3 prusik lines to ascend and descend the tree. In fact, to test them out I bounced on 1 prusik with all my weight when I was 2ft off the ground. Great vids as always. More.
revisualize 1 year ago
@ITStactical
The munter would give you allot more control... I've not seen that method taught by any climber any more. And with the amount of equipment you don't have with the prusik being above the belay device it's going to be quiet hard to escape once it locks up. Something like an autoblock would be able to be released under load.
crofrog 1 year ago