say that united 93 plane nose dived into the ground , then basicly it is like a bomb , there for you get the bomb like crater , example , if you were to drop a rock into alot of flower the flower will cave in ontop of the stone ( the stone wont be visable) the united 93 remains were prob under the muck when these photos were taken .
@rdsjrs you're not looking closely enough , the road is not in the 2001 picture. @2:19 you can see that in the 94' the dark grey surrounding the crater continues at almost a right angle , it is this that you are mistaking for the road in smaller 2001 pic. This does not come anywhere close to classifying as a crash site !
If you go to google earth you will see what you saw in the video above but if you look at the video from 911 the scar isn't close enough to the road to be the crash sight.
NOW FOR MY SMOKING GUN
Look at the 94 scar and use the ruler tool in google earth and click one end of the scar and drag the line to the other end It is about 350 ft a 747 is only about 124 ft wide so that is not even close to what you see in the video from 911. Bottom line scar proves nothing!
I look back now at 9/11 and honestly people can believe that u,s had some part and some people dont. but tell me this if that plane so called "crash" in pa shouldnt their be parts of the plane that are actually there and not just a big hole. what? was there a nuclear bomb or something that basically made the plane just go away. but hey the proof is right their no plane hardly no evidence and then people say o wait they wouldnt lie. the gov hides EVERYTHING we dont know what could happen.
@dog7600re they did find larger parts, look at the pictures. Also the plane was going almost full speed and was loaded with fuel. Why would there be alot of wreckage though?
To me this is some of the most damning evidence I am entirelly skeptical of conspiracy theories but I have watched the show mayday alot and they always show pictures of the actual crash sight and even ones where they crashed full speed into a mountain the tail and engines survive. There was also the crash where a small plane clipped the tail of a large jet causing it to crash directly into the ground (similar to the way I imagine such a crash would be) the engines survived.
To me this is some of the most damning evidence I am entirelly skeptical of conspiracy theories but I have watched the show mayday alot and they always show pictures of the actual crash sight and even ones where they crashed full speed into a mountain the tail and engines survive. There was also the crash where a small plane clipped the tail of a large jet causing it to crash directly into the ground (similar to the way I imagine such a crash would be) the engines survived.
"I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
At 0:26 of this video it's wrong. Only people who are misinformed are claiming that the jet fuel burned long enough to "melt" the core columns. True, the jet fuel ignited the fires in the towers, but it was anything and everything in the towers that COULD burn such as paper, plastics, wood etc. that kept the fires going. As the jets exploded, they pushed debris forward, away from the impact points. Most of the fires were concentrated opposite the holes.....cont.
@gimme2utah1 (2) cont...which is why some victims were seen waving for help from where the jets entered the blgs and some victims on the other side were jumping to their deaths trying to avoid the heat and flames.
You can't compare regular airline crashes to flight 93 or any of the other 3 crashes on that day.
In a normal crash, the pilots do everything they can to avoid casualties.....dumping fuel, reducing speed, leveling the plane....NOT THROTTLE UP NOSEDIVING AT 600 mph!!!
@gimme2utah1 Well, scientific facts assist the debunking of a plane crash here. Aluminum, which a lot of the plane of, melts at 1220F. Jet fuel, or kerosene, burns at about 1400. That would have melted a bit of the aluminum but not all of it. Not to mention that there was enough steel to show wreckage, engine turbines the size of cars would have been left as well, they are made out of titanium and the melting point of titanium is 3000F. So there would have been at least some wreckage.
@obeyance...."As we got closer to the crash site, I could determine that there was an aircraft that crashed, but it was all in very small pieces." ......
"We have not so far, been able to find any victims, any survivors, any bodies." These are a couple of quotes from THIS video.......watch?v=uwyGhb6E_6M
I was there, and it did happen. Why don't you show all the pics of the pieces of plane wreckage that were scattered all over the woods there?? I'm not a scientist, but I'm guessing you don't because it would destroy your whole "it didn't happen.." theory..
I was there, and it did happen. Why don't you show all the pics of the pieces of plane wreckage that were scattered all over the woods there?? I'm not a scientist, but I'm guessing you don't because it would destroy your whole "it didn't happen.." theory..
I was there, and it did happen. Why don't you show all the pics of the pieces of plane wreckage that were scattered all over the woods there?? I'm not a scientist, but I'm guessing you don't because it would destroy your whole "it didn't happen.." theory..
There was a plane. Imagin...just like in the movies... If a plane was coming down at like 600 miles per hour and dive right into the earth there would be not 1 piece of fuckin remains of human flesh anywhere.. Just turn into ash
dont u think that if the government were behind this they said ok we took out two major buildings why waste our time crashing a plane into the ground?
the actual plane's wingspan is probably a third of the "bomb crater" in this video... ===(-|-)=== if this diagram is the whole hole, only the "-|-" is the plane, the rest of the stuff is marks from debris/fires/shadow.
You guys can't buy into this... this is a conspiracy theorist trying to compulsively connect things that aren't connected.
1. The USGS picture looks like it shows the same "dark mark" but it doesn't. Those dark spots are shadows because of the topography of the area.
2. The plane and all of the debris is deeper in the hole, the dark "wing-marks" are not because of the wings, those are either blast marks or shadows,
1) who were the bodies discovered at the crash site
2) how did they recover 95% of an aircraft that just happened to be in the hole.
3) how did the families of the victims lay to them to rest. whos remains were they and how did the various dna test MATCH PERFECTLY
4) whats the name of the mind contol agent used on ALL THE WITNESSESS YOU PEOPLE ARE THE MOST PATHEDIC, WORTHLESS WASTE OF SPACE THERE IS. YOU ARE TRULLY SAD.THOSE PEOPLE WERE HEROS....PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
@upinthenite Thank you. Someone with some common sense. It doesn't matter if they found the whole plane in the site. NOTHING we ever find will change their minds about a conspiracy. Even if a video came out that showed the plane crashing, they would claim it was doctored. They are the biggest dumbasses out there.
1. a planes structure is mostly aluminum not steal.
2. the plane HIT THE GROUND not steel like in the WTC
3. also 95% of all of the plane was discovered
4. and all passengers identity and remains have been found
next time check the facts before you make outlandish and stupid comments, people like you make me sick because you know respect for the families that lost lives in that plane.
You and your paranoid little friends probably went into psychological shock from the trauma of 9/11 and never came back to earth. Sometimes trauma can cause a dormant psych illness to surface.
I'm not trying to hurt you guys, but there is something so similar about your attitude and the attitudes of the radical islamists.
With a name like "GraceofGod" how can you say "there is something so similar about your attitude and the attitudes of the radical islamists"? Ho ho! Thats a laugh! Of course, "Christianity is totally different to Islam - no brainwashing here!" :D
Do your research people, this type of crash site is unique in that this plane was desending into the ground nose first. In most plane crashes like the ones you provided the pilot will make some attempt to stop the plane crashing nose first. As for the no fires story well there was nothing there to set on fire and the plane had so much kinetic energy forcing the wreckage underground thus starving the fire from oxeygen... THERE IS NO X-FILES SHIT HERE JUST PHYSICS.
Are you ever going to theorize on those supposed wing scars that just got debunked in this video or are you willing to say that the 0.00001 probability of the plane perfectly crashing right into that spot actually occured so it looks like wing and nose impact.
So now we have a crash-site that is reduced a circular crater, right? Hmm.. "Wreckage forced underground" Even if this happened there would STILL be bodies and debris all over the place. Why has this underground issue never been mention before?
Just as 9/11 saw the first fires in history where steel structured buildings collapsed, (3 buildings mind you - not just 2, remember that?); Flight 93 was another 'unique' event. An eyewitness mentioned nothing of this 'nose dive', NOR of a Boeing!
although i agree with you claim i do want to tell you that all the eye witness say it landed tail fin first. but look we can never talk sense, the reason why they believe iin the conspiracy is because they want to believe there is a conspiracy. its as if all the idiots are brain washed so there is no point into argue commen sense, cuz they just won't listen. DUMBASSES
there was no plane @ skanksvile , iv seen the ordnance survey in 1994 and the long ditch is there just the bomb hole is new !
Also its funny that all the locals and the first news reporters said there is nothing but smoke and a little fire , now they want us to believe that there was loads of bits everywhere lol ecerything is ok eat flouride and listen to goverment agences , they tell the truth , lol Aye
Where are the families of crash victims? Why are they questioning the gov't in the public eye? Also, the rescue workers have been muzzled. I immediately questioned the lack of a plane when site was shown in 9/11. From that point on, I have viewed anything on tv as not the whole truth. America needs to question and demand answers, yesterday!
say that united 93 plane nose dived into the ground , then basicly it is like a bomb , there for you get the bomb like crater , example , if you were to drop a rock into alot of flower the flower will cave in ontop of the stone ( the stone wont be visable) the united 93 remains were prob under the muck when these photos were taken .
micklfc2008 1 month ago
THE TRUTH!!! THE 1994 PHOTO AND THE CRASH SITE PHOTO ARE NOT RELATED!
VIEW THE LINK BELOW TO SEE THAT THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME LOCATION AND NOT THE SAME SIZE.
behindthecurtain.zzl.org/Flight93.php
RIP to all of those lost on Flight 93
StuntmanSam07 2 months ago
There are numerous parts that would not have broken up on impact,namely the titanium shafts in both engines.This is very strange.
t5239857289578947594 3 months ago
to the guy that calls every body idiots here
the idiots are the people that believe every thing a government tells them with out questioning it
the real criminals & terrorist of the world are the governments/greedy corporations of the world
don't believe a word any government tells ya its all bullshit
axeadn 4 months ago
The two holes are in different spots
jawsflounderace 5 months ago
What does a plane crash site look like that had a plane crashing perpendicular into the ground?
Just asking
The black scar of the 1994 Google Earth reference is farther away from the curved road than the 2001 smoking scar photo shows.
Just observing.
rdsjrs 5 months ago
@rdsjrs you're not looking closely enough , the road is not in the 2001 picture. @2:19 you can see that in the 94' the dark grey surrounding the crater continues at almost a right angle , it is this that you are mistaking for the road in smaller 2001 pic. This does not come anywhere close to classifying as a crash site !
apuz1234567 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
If you go to google earth you will see what you saw in the video above but if you look at the video from 911 the scar isn't close enough to the road to be the crash sight.
NOW FOR MY SMOKING GUN
Look at the 94 scar and use the ruler tool in google earth and click one end of the scar and drag the line to the other end It is about 350 ft a 747 is only about 124 ft wide so that is not even close to what you see in the video from 911. Bottom line scar proves nothing!
martin3103 6 months ago
Flight 93, pentagon, tower 7 and so on, smoking gunz
dozer3955 10 months ago
Know what happened to Flight 93, and the innocent Souls On Board ?
That jet was VAPORIZED.
That's why little, if anything, was recovered from the "wreakage."
The People behind The Attack, Hurricane Katrina, The Indonesian Earthquake, as well as the HAITIAN one, R the Ones on Earth with the REAL "WMDs"
Weapons of Mass Destruction.
Erionnacirema 11 months ago
I look back now at 9/11 and honestly people can believe that u,s had some part and some people dont. but tell me this if that plane so called "crash" in pa shouldnt their be parts of the plane that are actually there and not just a big hole. what? was there a nuclear bomb or something that basically made the plane just go away. but hey the proof is right their no plane hardly no evidence and then people say o wait they wouldnt lie. the gov hides EVERYTHING we dont know what could happen.
dog7600re 11 months ago
@dog7600re they did find larger parts, look at the pictures. Also the plane was going almost full speed and was loaded with fuel. Why would there be alot of wreckage though?
Bigrobkerr 5 months ago
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To me this is some of the most damning evidence I am entirelly skeptical of conspiracy theories but I have watched the show mayday alot and they always show pictures of the actual crash sight and even ones where they crashed full speed into a mountain the tail and engines survive. There was also the crash where a small plane clipped the tail of a large jet causing it to crash directly into the ground (similar to the way I imagine such a crash would be) the engines survived.
1MGD1 1 year ago
To me this is some of the most damning evidence I am entirelly skeptical of conspiracy theories but I have watched the show mayday alot and they always show pictures of the actual crash sight and even ones where they crashed full speed into a mountain the tail and engines survive. There was also the crash where a small plane clipped the tail of a large jet causing it to crash directly into the ground (similar to the way I imagine such a crash would be) the engines survived.
1MGD1 1 year ago
u ppl r idiots all of u
dachamp171 1 year ago
wow, great video!
wygram 1 year ago
This must be some AMAZING dirt. Compare this with other plane crashes. Its easy to see no plane crashed here.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
okayyy all you people are fuckin pieces of shit why the fuck would they lie about fuckin idiots
akeg91 1 year ago
"I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
At 0:26 of this video it's wrong. Only people who are misinformed are claiming that the jet fuel burned long enough to "melt" the core columns. True, the jet fuel ignited the fires in the towers, but it was anything and everything in the towers that COULD burn such as paper, plastics, wood etc. that kept the fires going. As the jets exploded, they pushed debris forward, away from the impact points. Most of the fires were concentrated opposite the holes.....cont.
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@gimme2utah1 (2) cont...which is why some victims were seen waving for help from where the jets entered the blgs and some victims on the other side were jumping to their deaths trying to avoid the heat and flames.
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
yes right when this was on tv for the first time i was like uh where the f is the wreckage????
Thanks4TheClues 1 year ago
You can't compare regular airline crashes to flight 93 or any of the other 3 crashes on that day.
In a normal crash, the pilots do everything they can to avoid casualties.....dumping fuel, reducing speed, leveling the plane....NOT THROTTLE UP NOSEDIVING AT 600 mph!!!
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@gimme2utah1 Well, scientific facts assist the debunking of a plane crash here. Aluminum, which a lot of the plane of, melts at 1220F. Jet fuel, or kerosene, burns at about 1400. That would have melted a bit of the aluminum but not all of it. Not to mention that there was enough steel to show wreckage, engine turbines the size of cars would have been left as well, they are made out of titanium and the melting point of titanium is 3000F. So there would have been at least some wreckage.
obeyance 1 year ago
@obeyance...."As we got closer to the crash site, I could determine that there was an aircraft that crashed, but it was all in very small pieces." ......
"We have not so far, been able to find any victims, any survivors, any bodies." These are a couple of quotes from THIS video.......watch?v=uwyGhb6E_6M
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
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I was there, and it did happen. Why don't you show all the pics of the pieces of plane wreckage that were scattered all over the woods there?? I'm not a scientist, but I'm guessing you don't because it would destroy your whole "it didn't happen.." theory..
JIMMYNUTZ77 1 year ago
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I was there, and it did happen. Why don't you show all the pics of the pieces of plane wreckage that were scattered all over the woods there?? I'm not a scientist, but I'm guessing you don't because it would destroy your whole "it didn't happen.." theory..
JIMMYNUTZ77 1 year ago
I was there, and it did happen. Why don't you show all the pics of the pieces of plane wreckage that were scattered all over the woods there?? I'm not a scientist, but I'm guessing you don't because it would destroy your whole "it didn't happen.." theory..
JIMMYNUTZ77 1 year ago
There was a plane. Imagin...just like in the movies... If a plane was coming down at like 600 miles per hour and dive right into the earth there would be not 1 piece of fuckin remains of human flesh anywhere.. Just turn into ash
meloaleo 1 year ago
dont u think that if the government were behind this they said ok we took out two major buildings why waste our time crashing a plane into the ground?
MrBobbyFinstock 2 years ago
the actual plane's wingspan is probably a third of the "bomb crater" in this video... ===(-|-)=== if this diagram is the whole hole, only the "-|-" is the plane, the rest of the stuff is marks from debris/fires/shadow.
come on guys, what the fuck? use ur head.
and have respect for the dead people.
obama says dont trust whitey.
max8987 2 years ago
You guys can't buy into this... this is a conspiracy theorist trying to compulsively connect things that aren't connected.
1. The USGS picture looks like it shows the same "dark mark" but it doesn't. Those dark spots are shadows because of the topography of the area.
2. The plane and all of the debris is deeper in the hole, the dark "wing-marks" are not because of the wings, those are either blast marks or shadows,
max8987 2 years ago
QUESTIONS
1) who were the bodies discovered at the crash site
2) how did they recover 95% of an aircraft that just happened to be in the hole.
3) how did the families of the victims lay to them to rest. whos remains were they and how did the various dna test MATCH PERFECTLY
4) whats the name of the mind contol agent used on ALL THE WITNESSESS YOU PEOPLE ARE THE MOST PATHEDIC, WORTHLESS WASTE OF SPACE THERE IS. YOU ARE TRULLY SAD.THOSE PEOPLE WERE HEROS....PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
upinthenite 2 years ago
@upinthenite Thank you. Someone with some common sense. It doesn't matter if they found the whole plane in the site. NOTHING we ever find will change their minds about a conspiracy. Even if a video came out that showed the plane crashing, they would claim it was doctored. They are the biggest dumbasses out there.
auburnfan27 1 year ago
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upinthenite 2 years ago
Who ever posted this is an absolute idiot.
1. a planes structure is mostly aluminum not steal.
2. the plane HIT THE GROUND not steel like in the WTC
3. also 95% of all of the plane was discovered
4. and all passengers identity and remains have been found
next time check the facts before you make outlandish and stupid comments, people like you make me sick because you know respect for the families that lost lives in that plane.
TheBini02 2 years ago 2
I think you're an absolute idiot, secretcombinations. And shame on you for using V as your avatar. V was actually really cool.
mereobservation 2 years ago 2
You and your paranoid little friends probably went into psychological shock from the trauma of 9/11 and never came back to earth. Sometimes trauma can cause a dormant psych illness to surface.
I'm not trying to hurt you guys, but there is something so similar about your attitude and the attitudes of the radical islamists.
GraceofGod758 3 years ago
Did you even watch the video? So are you saying the plane 'happened' to land on the crater creating that 'plane like' mark?
You believe that if you want, its you're right. One thing is sure however - you're VERY naieve to never question such important issues.
andy7666 2 years ago
With a name like "GraceofGod" how can you say "there is something so similar about your attitude and the attitudes of the radical islamists"? Ho ho! Thats a laugh! Of course, "Christianity is totally different to Islam - no brainwashing here!" :D
andy7666 2 years ago
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pug6666 3 years ago
Do your research people, this type of crash site is unique in that this plane was desending into the ground nose first. In most plane crashes like the ones you provided the pilot will make some attempt to stop the plane crashing nose first. As for the no fires story well there was nothing there to set on fire and the plane had so much kinetic energy forcing the wreckage underground thus starving the fire from oxeygen... THERE IS NO X-FILES SHIT HERE JUST PHYSICS.
ConfusedConsoleGuy 3 years ago
Are you ever going to theorize on those supposed wing scars that just got debunked in this video or are you willing to say that the 0.00001 probability of the plane perfectly crashing right into that spot actually occured so it looks like wing and nose impact.
JSSTyger 3 years ago
Lol everything the gov tells us is unique, Magic bullet theory, Weapons of Mass destruction. I just love it.
bigcatz4455 3 years ago 9
So now we have a crash-site that is reduced a circular crater, right? Hmm.. "Wreckage forced underground" Even if this happened there would STILL be bodies and debris all over the place. Why has this underground issue never been mention before?
Just as 9/11 saw the first fires in history where steel structured buildings collapsed, (3 buildings mind you - not just 2, remember that?); Flight 93 was another 'unique' event. An eyewitness mentioned nothing of this 'nose dive', NOR of a Boeing!
andy7666 2 years ago
although i agree with you claim i do want to tell you that all the eye witness say it landed tail fin first. but look we can never talk sense, the reason why they believe iin the conspiracy is because they want to believe there is a conspiracy. its as if all the idiots are brain washed so there is no point into argue commen sense, cuz they just won't listen. DUMBASSES
TheBini02 2 years ago
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there was no plane @ skanksvile , iv seen the ordnance survey in 1994 and the long ditch is there just the bomb hole is new !
Also its funny that all the locals and the first news reporters said there is nothing but smoke and a little fire , now they want us to believe that there was loads of bits everywhere lol ecerything is ok eat flouride and listen to goverment agences , they tell the truth , lol Aye
krs306 2 years ago
Where are the families of crash victims? Why are they questioning the gov't in the public eye? Also, the rescue workers have been muzzled. I immediately questioned the lack of a plane when site was shown in 9/11. From that point on, I have viewed anything on tv as not the whole truth. America needs to question and demand answers, yesterday!
potterword 3 years ago 13