I guess Hitler could say, "Ich bin ein IBMer". Great work in the concentration camps IBM. A also heard the company is now called "Indian Business Machines".
A new thing is being developed by IBM. It´s called intelligence and will prove useful in several areas. Considering the funding, people must think it´s a joke, but it´s probably not! :)
IBM supplied the technology, not just the parts, that allowed the Nazis to categorize people - particularly people who the Nazis wanted to remove from their society.
I agree that this should not be the only matter that IBM is judged for, however, the video is, without such acknowledgement, instant propaganda. They are painting over the ugly parts by omitting information in several categories (such as the story of IBM's involvement with barcodes).
También soy una ex-IBM'ista. Y siento que estuve allí para ver cómo iba a ser este futuro que ya está. I am also a former IBM'er. And I just feel that I have been there to foresee our present.
IBM became successful by supplying Nazi Germany so they can run their camps. I'm American and it broke my heart when I found out. To think what greedy bastards will do for money.
@MrHoneycake Actually that's incorrect. There is no record that IBM's computers in Nazi Germany did anything to help the Nazi's with their holocaust. All they did was sell them computers. I'm sure the North Korean gov't, Chinese Gov't, Myanmar gov't, Iranian Gov't, etc, use Apple or Windows products whether or not they were sold directly from those two companies. Should Apple or Microsoft be chastised as well since their products may be helping those gov'ts keep on functioning?
@MrHoneycake@MrHoneycake Actually that's incorrect. There is no record that IBM's computers in Nazi Germany did anything to help the Nazi's with their holocaust. All they did was sell them computers. I'm sure the North Korean gov't, Chinese Gov't, Myanmar gov't, Iranian Gov't, etc, use Apple or Windows products whether or not they were sold directly from those two companies. Should Apple or Microsoft be chastised as well since their products may be helping those gov'ts keep on functioning?
This is what makes our county so great people with ideas and the ability to pursue them. Thank you ibm for your contubtion to this idea america is the greatest country in the world!!!
Barcodes? Wow. They destroyed the need for honest and intelligent cashiers and they don't benefit the customer. They don't reduce the price paid by the consumer, they increase the profit margin of the retail store. That's a good thing, but if I'd worked on the barcode team, I don't think I'd be proud of my accomplishment.
Watson's mentor sold the cash register as a device that would make people honest. Note that this argument was not made regarding barcodes because people don't matter anymore.
The New Masses, way back in 1935, exposed the culture of IBM as one like that of George Pullman in the 1890s. Yes, it was very humanistic, up to a very important point. That point was fiduciary: as long as IBM made money for stock and bond holders, the employees were coddled. The most dramatic instance was Lou Gerstner's destructive tenure.
SHARE conferences featured massive amounts of drinking, because to get permission to attend them you had to "prove" that you would Make Money and steal ideas. The guys wore beards and the women had hairy legs, but we all knew the brutal truth: you had to make it until retirement. Fortunately, I bailed out.
Missing is also the story of the Kulturkampf waged by IBM on Algol. Fortran was great (I got it working on the 1401, second-hand, because some bozo had modified the machine language card deck), but it blinded a generation of programmers to structured programming, which emerges naturally from Algol block structure. GO TO HELL, and we did, until 1974.
No Bob Bemer. He thought what I thought before him, which is that to solve Y2K you need to interrupt machine language MVC/MVCLs with six byte operands since YOU DON'T HAVE THE SOURCE CODE. But he did something about it. Y2K was a real problem and it was solved by a lot of hard-working old Cobol and BAL programmers...who were then shown the door.
No Rexx and no Mike Cowlishaw! Programming "scripts" on CMS was a JOKE until this English man worked on his own time to develop a true block-structured, Algol based solution that is now a mainstay of IBM's latest mainframes (which still are in use especially at big bad government places). They made Mike an IBM Fellow.
Not true, Fred. The IBM 1401 had an instruction called Modify Address which expanded the amount of memory you could address. Yeah, it was a kludge, but basically Haanstra was right. You should have stayed with the 1401 architecture because it took several years to fix OS/360 and arguably it gave Lyndon Johnson and Bob McNamara the wrong answers to the progress of the Vietnam war.
"When hitler needed some help catologing those pesky jews we were there" lol at ibm. where I work we use their systems and they constantly dick up lol
@fitzlegit No, you constantly dick up, big guy. And I have read Edwin Black's IBM AND THE HOLOCAUST, and yes, I think IBM lies: in another video they use "wild duck" to refer to clients when that word meant an employee, such as Bob Bemer, Fred Haanstra, Herb Grosch and Gerald Weinberg, who would not conform. But get your facts straight and learn your job.
@spinoza1111 lol you look like a rapist and you dont even know what i do for a living. We've had ibm come in over 20 times to "fix" the computers and they get worse so why do you feel like you have to say im bad at my job? is it because your a fucking troll who works for ibm? lol also idk what your arguing about troll because it looks like your agreeing that IBM helped the nazis. Bottom line, it proves the company doesnt give a shit about people.
@fitzlegit You probably are bad at your job. I've always believed (over a thirty year career in software including assisting John Nash at Princeton and publishing a book on compilers) that functional illiterates (who write, for example, "your" instead of "you're" shouldn't program, and the late Edsger Dijkstra would agree. The customer engineers can't fix a mainframe that you screw up every time they leave. And to say someone is a rapist online means your a thug with anger management issues,
IBM, Steve Wozniak and Apple created the first real personal computer. Get your facts straight. And stop pretending you were the inventors of personal computing.
@leicaman Not true. Steve Woz claims to have been the first man on Earth to press a key and see a character on the screen. Unfortunately, at the time he said he was doing this, I drove my baby son to work with me at the Jewel Data Center in Oakbrook IL, sat him on my lap, and pressed keys to see characters comprising JCL on CMS. My baby son was entranced and said "dat yike TV". By the age of 12 he was an accomplished programmer.
@spinoza1111 Your argument is missing the point. You were not working on a personal computer for the average person. Maybe Woz was wrong about being the first to use a keyboard and monitor as the terminal and readout from the computer, but the Apple I was the first personal computer. There is no dispute of that.
@leicaman There's actually quite a lot of dispute. The Altair was the first PC according to standard histories. VM/CMS provided the equivalent to my son and myself at Jewel Data Center.
The point was that Woz claimed to be the first man on earth to press a key and see the character on the screen in his autobiography, and this is incorrect.
I just sent this video to my grandson who is struggling with where he wants to go in life. He is a high schooler ready for his future, he has not picked his plans as of today. I love computers and I have tried to push him toward computer security. Maybe this will give him a new insight, being part of changing the world in the future. I wish I could be there and would have loved to be part of it. Maybe my genes will be !!
As a retired IBM'er who worked in R&D most of my career, and experienced the intellectual technical challenges described in this video, I feel this does give a good perspective an IBM R&D world, especially how it was in the 60's, 70's & 80's. I wish they would have included development of the 3081 mainframe computer, which drove tons of new technology like ceramic substrates, design automation software, plus many others, that was high risk, and led by brillant exec's, just like these projects.
its time of a change its time for us to stop using mac or microsoft and start using IBM the company that started it all, that revolutionized the technological complex of society, this is IBM's big win or big lose.
@MahatmaGandoo Yes. And Bob McNamara's numbers were completely wrong, because so much time had to be spent at Da Nang debugging OS/360. PL/I was a joke until 1974 when a decent compiler was released. They should have stayed with the 1401's architecture and evolved in small steps. Smaller 1401s didn't need false flooring, could run with window air cons, and were often found still working away in tropical environments in India in the 1980s. The Army used them in field conditions in Europe.
@c4rlob: you're correct as far as you go. But if your point is to say that IBM couldn't have known what use its technology would be put to, I beg to differ. The only thing preventing anyone in the 30's from realizing what Hitler was planning was either ignorance, deliberate obtuseness, or being prejudiced by agreeing with him.
I'm no Luddite, I believe technology can be harnessed to do great good. But it requires responsibility and the willingness to say "no, that's not right, I won't do it."
Any tech company that has been around that long would be naive to think it wasn't responsible for as many horrors as wonders. No one refutes that technology has granted us uncountable advances; but no one refutes that it's also the culprit of countless harms.
I think Technology (which IBM admits they are a centurion of) is mostly a mirror of humanity, but since it's a very elite polarized mirror I have to guess if it leans in any direction it's toward the lesser angels of humanity.
This would be a lot easier if there were a gas company that sold (and aggressively marketed) non-Arab oil. Like, "none of our gas comes from OPEC countries. None of our gas comes from state sponsors of terrorism." You'd think it'd be great PR. I can't understand why any energy company hasn't jumped at the chance to corner that marketing image yet, it's wide open for the taking. It would let people of good conscience vote with their dollars. Instead, there's no way to tell where it comes from.
If IBM regrets it so much, how about they put the money they earned from it where their mouth... well... isn't, since they've never apologized. So, sorry, don't believe you.
I agree re: the oil. One reason why I vote for politicians who favor US energy independence. I don't believe people have to be able to instantly fix all problems - but they ought to work towards change and justice wherever possible. Voting for energy independence is one example. Trying to right past wrongs is another.
Essentially IBM is just another facet of the ongoing whitewash of the rampant antisemitism / support for eugenics that was widespread in America right up until Hitler's atrocities made it too embarrassing to admit. :P It became politically crucial to cast America historically as the good guy, and that meant denying that Hitler's ideas ever had any followers here. So, enjoy your sanitized, Disney version of history if you prefer, in which Hitler had no American collaborators. I prefer the truth.
@nfinn42 My grandfather was a career IBM man, and special officer during WW2. He was tasked with retrieving captured Hollerith punch cards from the Nazi for use in prosecution. He was on the beaches on D-day and followed the front line as they pushed towards Berlin. I know from my grandfather that IBM regretted any business with the Nazi. If you wish to believe IBM was pro Nazi, that's a right he fought for. Under your argument; if you buy gas U supported the US war in Iraq.
@ibmjas1 you're reading one of the latest of a long conversation that's been ongoing here for several days. Read farther down the thread and you'll find where I detailed some of IBM's involvement with the Third Reich. I would link you to the wikipedia article about it but YT won't let me post links in a comment. It's in an article called IBM During World War II. It is also detailed in a book called IBM And The Holocaust by Edwin Black. I know it's shocking but you owe yourself the truth.
Nonsense. The inventor of the printing press was dead before Mein Kampf was published. IBM could have chosen not to do business with a tyrannical regime that was bent on committing mass murder. They chose to put profit before humanity. Don't get snippy with me just because you're feeling defensive now that I've pointed out that rah-rah'ing IBM isn't such a bright thing to do. That's your problem, not mine.
I was there and it change rapidly, it was so interesting (fun) to see what was next. How we could streamline processes by using computers. Running the companies finances, building things, it was great.
hmm, global impact on business and society. Well, that's definitely true. IBM's computers certainly performed well in helping the Nazis commit mass murder upon European Jewry. From an efficiency standpoint it was quite a successful sale of equipment.
From a cultural standpoint? One thinks perhaps an apology might be in order.
Just to clarify since there seem to be a lot of ignorant people reading comments here: The difference between IBM and a bullet manufacturer is that the bullet manufacturer didn't get in bed with the mass murderer and design *special* bullets that were intended specifically for mass murder. IBM designed computers and specialized software specifically to help the Nazis identify and track their murder victims. Wikipedia is a good place to start learning about this.
@nfinn42 Before you start pointing your finger at "the ignorant people" here I recommend you do your research first. There was no such thing as "specialized software" and computers as we know them today back in 1939. I believe you are referring to the Hollerith Tabulating Machine designed for US census and licensed to the Germans in 1910 for same. The punch card system was used my many other countries and by your logic that's like blaming the FORD model T for global warming today.
@ThePunitiveDamages Odd that you should mention Ford in this context, since Henry Ford was another contemporary American anti-semite. It was common at the time, and America was full of them.
And what problem do you have with the concept that those who aid and abet crimes against humanity ought to be considered to share in the guilt? How about we talk about corporate due diligence - it wouldn't have been difficult for the management of Dehomag to learn what was going on. They just didn't care.
@ThePunitiveDamages It won't let me post a link here, but if you do a search on Wikipedia under "IBM in the Holocaust" you can get started on finding sources to research this. The *fact* is that Ford's sponsoring the Dearborn Independent materially aided the propaganda efforts of antisemites. He was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest award the Nazis could give a foreigner. Hitler even mentions him in Mein Kampf. So don't bring Ford into this, you'll just embarrass yourself.
@ThePunitiveDamages And as for IBM, the *fact* is that their computers materially aided the commission of a crime against humanity SO GREAT that it has left an indelible scar on the human memory. They earned a profit off of every machine they sold. Now, if they had any sense of decency or ethics at all, they would be nauseated by having blood money in their bank account, and they would also want to distance themselves from the Nazis. Unfortunately IBM chose a whitewash rather than coming clean.
@nfinn42 I'm not denying that IBM franchised the Hollerith to the Germans, I'm stating that expecting an apology from IBM from doing business pre-WW2, is like blaming the printing press for Mien Kampf, or asking the creators of the internet for an apology for kiddy porn, or blaming Boeing for 9/11. Just because Edward Black wrote one conspiracy book now The Nuts think IBM was in on it. I bet if I wrote a book that NASA is covering up the fact that the moon is made of cheese, people would buy it
I joined IBM November 15, 1965. I am retired now with 30 years service to IBM. I was hired in Dallas, Texas and retired in Monroe, Louisiana. My name is Herb Jones, 549203.
@american11asshole. They also hid profits from Germany during the war. Henry Watson (CEO during the forties) was given the highest award the Nazis could give for his political support of Nazism.
One of the biggest scandals ever was when Nixon and some Republican buddies of his convinced Congress to buy $25 million worth of IBM punch-cards on the eve of that technology becoming moot.
Me and all the other thousands of fans of the amazing OS/2 does not forget and never forget to ask IBM to release any part of the source code of OS/2 developed by IBMers!
Wow, I'm 18 and I didn't know IBM had done all that. Everything IBM has done is truly amazing and has transformed our society. I just hope I can help with something like that in the future. Congratulations IBM!!!
@bluemax43a You're retarded. IBM made money off working with the Nazi's by cataloging Jews. I did not say the computer they used killed them directly.
Wow, Philip Glass is the music director !!! FANTASTIC.
May IBM pass another successful 100 Year and make more contributions that will change the life and perspective and be the true IBM :) Proud to be an IBMer.
tl;dw; Did the video include the machineguns that IBM made such as the Browning BAR M1918? I guess technically they were "business machines" and had an impact on international business.
I've been an IBMer since 2006. Love waking up every morning and knowing that I make a difference and that I get to embark on a journey with the most talented and intellectual individuals the world has to offer. I could never imagine having a career anywhere else!
I have worked in and for IBM for 41 years and I have seen changes that were amazing, and some that were distressing. I am proud to be a part of a company that has brought such incredible technology to the world. I WAS proud to be a part of a company that was committed to its employees. Job security was never an issue if you performed. Today, sadly, as an American, there is no "respect for the individual". IBM is all about satisfying quarterly earnings, out sourcing American jobs. How tragic.
Became an IBMer in 1967. Retired 2002. I was in Customer Engineering. Started servicing card machines and System 360/20. Taught new engineers for a while, managed for 10 years, and the printer division for 10 years. Shook hands with several CEO's and had several interesting temporary assignments. Retired after a wonderful career. There were challenges but always came out better except the last one when my position was eliminated.
I wonder if this Centennial film is going to honestly show IBM's involvement in creating a special system for the Nazis. This fact is well documented.
The single worst job I have ever had was working in an IBM call center 1-800-IBM-4you. What a dehumanizing experiencing. I spent three weeks in training and two weeks indentured to a head-set using a language I think could be best described as "IBAmericanese", before I quit and took a job making synthetic hairballs for ceramic cats in downtown Toronto. Massive improvement.
I'm amazed that this video pulled me in for a half hour, since I'm feeling pressed for time this week, but it really did. Very very interesting Errol Morris - thanks.
While this may be a bit of very high production value corporate promotion, that absolutely ignores the errors of IBM's past, but I think any bit of art that promotes engineers, scientists, and thinkers as heroes should be lauded. Congrats goes to Mr. Morris and Mr. Glass on a job well done.
I love being an IBMer. A chance to always do something new and a company that has a constant goal of innovation that matters for the world. I have recruiters call me at least once a month, but haven't heard anything that would want to make me leave.
sigh, ignoring your improper grasp of the English language which only goes to undermine your 'argument', how on earth can you suggest that this tedious link is IBM's most famous contribution to society??? naive..
Furthermore, on the back of WW1, where Germany got screwed in the Treaty of Versailles, EVERYONE was trying to help them get back on their feet, plus getting them through the Great Depression. No one knew that we were heading into WW2 and most Germans didn't even know that Auschwitz, Dachau, etc. were Death Camps, let alone the IBM guys in New York!
Why would such a prestigious company at the forefront of technology knowingly jeopardise their image in such an incredible way? NAIVE.
Even spend half of my 25 years with IBM PC's and half with Apple, I really must say: EAT THAT, STEVE JOBS! Honestly. I rally want to see, if Apple can show such continuity of innovation, when it's 100! I really doubt it. Go, blue giant!
merged, or broken to pieces. So whatever are your personal grouches against IBM, you have to admire that in being around for 100 years, and innovating at such a great pace, it has done better than a lot, and in the process has made the world abetted place to live in. Let's celebrate this iconic company's achievements and hope for a 100 more.
A recent study by Ellen de Rooij of the Stratix Group in Amsterdam indicates that the average life expectancy of all firms, regardless of size, measured in Japan and much of Europe, is only 12.5 years.
The average life expectancy of a multinational corporation-Fortune 500 or its equivalent-is between 40 and 50 years. This figure is based on most surveys of corporate births and deaths. A full one-third of the companies listed in the 1970 Fortune 500, for instance, had vanished by 1983-acquired,
It has never been IBM's problem to innovate. The world knows IBM's technologies are second to none. It has always been the accepted norm that IBM can't sell it.
I guess Hitler could say, "Ich bin ein IBMer". Great work in the concentration camps IBM. A also heard the company is now called "Indian Business Machines".
noso1960 1 week ago
some really good stuff here
grisgrisy 3 weeks ago
like how they solved the problem of finding all the jews in nazi germany
12QWASZXQWERTYUIOP 4 weeks ago
No doubt this is one of the best documentary I have ever seen..
salitrapraveen 1 month ago
IBM is more impressive than Apple.
kevinhr9 1 month ago 2
Why should I buy from this company when they would rather hire an indian instead of me?
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tiredfingers99 2 months ago
Damn IBM sure nails their videos.
iSeeJayVee 2 months ago
I love the Philip Glass soundtrack.
e2strom 2 months ago 2
Hello, I am a Mac.
everydaypanos 2 months ago
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these are the real genius of computer engineering.
cryspyfast 3 months ago
A new thing is being developed by IBM. It´s called intelligence and will prove useful in several areas. Considering the funding, people must think it´s a joke, but it´s probably not! :)
andenandenia 3 months ago
IBM supplied the technology, not just the parts, that allowed the Nazis to categorize people - particularly people who the Nazis wanted to remove from their society.
I agree that this should not be the only matter that IBM is judged for, however, the video is, without such acknowledgement, instant propaganda. They are painting over the ugly parts by omitting information in several categories (such as the story of IBM's involvement with barcodes).
Zekenstein 4 months ago 2
También soy una ex-IBM'ista. Y siento que estuve allí para ver cómo iba a ser este futuro que ya está. I am also a former IBM'er. And I just feel that I have been there to foresee our present.
amparocabal 4 months ago
I am a former IBMer. Proud of our heritage.
arturodeguzman 5 months ago 3
BEST commercial i've ever seen.
shane3630 5 months ago 3
I'm an IBMer!!! And I'm proud of it!! :))
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larkforsure 5 months ago
IBM became successful by supplying Nazi Germany so they can run their camps. I'm American and it broke my heart when I found out. To think what greedy bastards will do for money.
MrHoneycake 5 months ago
@MrHoneycake Actually that's incorrect. There is no record that IBM's computers in Nazi Germany did anything to help the Nazi's with their holocaust. All they did was sell them computers. I'm sure the North Korean gov't, Chinese Gov't, Myanmar gov't, Iranian Gov't, etc, use Apple or Windows products whether or not they were sold directly from those two companies. Should Apple or Microsoft be chastised as well since their products may be helping those gov'ts keep on functioning?
evm2007 5 months ago
@MrHoneycake @MrHoneycake Actually that's incorrect. There is no record that IBM's computers in Nazi Germany did anything to help the Nazi's with their holocaust. All they did was sell them computers. I'm sure the North Korean gov't, Chinese Gov't, Myanmar gov't, Iranian Gov't, etc, use Apple or Windows products whether or not they were sold directly from those two companies. Should Apple or Microsoft be chastised as well since their products may be helping those gov'ts keep on functioning?
evm2007 5 months ago
That's so weird that they forgot to mention how IBM helped the nazi's keep track of all the jews during the holocaust
ry831 6 months ago
This is what makes our county so great people with ideas and the ability to pursue them. Thank you ibm for your contubtion to this idea america is the greatest country in the world!!!
jdhintexas 6 months ago
One small step for IBM, One giant leap for mankind
MRyourgrandmother 6 months ago
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MRyourgrandmother 6 months ago
IBM is truly amazing! Great job by all of their employees.
Freeskier55 6 months ago
Errol Morris is awesome!
theshortladders 6 months ago 2
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whotaughtyou 6 months ago
Barcodes? Wow. They destroyed the need for honest and intelligent cashiers and they don't benefit the customer. They don't reduce the price paid by the consumer, they increase the profit margin of the retail store. That's a good thing, but if I'd worked on the barcode team, I don't think I'd be proud of my accomplishment.
Watson's mentor sold the cash register as a device that would make people honest. Note that this argument was not made regarding barcodes because people don't matter anymore.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
The New Masses, way back in 1935, exposed the culture of IBM as one like that of George Pullman in the 1890s. Yes, it was very humanistic, up to a very important point. That point was fiduciary: as long as IBM made money for stock and bond holders, the employees were coddled. The most dramatic instance was Lou Gerstner's destructive tenure.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
SHARE conferences featured massive amounts of drinking, because to get permission to attend them you had to "prove" that you would Make Money and steal ideas. The guys wore beards and the women had hairy legs, but we all knew the brutal truth: you had to make it until retirement. Fortunately, I bailed out.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
Missing is also the story of the Kulturkampf waged by IBM on Algol. Fortran was great (I got it working on the 1401, second-hand, because some bozo had modified the machine language card deck), but it blinded a generation of programmers to structured programming, which emerges naturally from Algol block structure. GO TO HELL, and we did, until 1974.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
No Bob Bemer. He thought what I thought before him, which is that to solve Y2K you need to interrupt machine language MVC/MVCLs with six byte operands since YOU DON'T HAVE THE SOURCE CODE. But he did something about it. Y2K was a real problem and it was solved by a lot of hard-working old Cobol and BAL programmers...who were then shown the door.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
No Rexx and no Mike Cowlishaw! Programming "scripts" on CMS was a JOKE until this English man worked on his own time to develop a true block-structured, Algol based solution that is now a mainstay of IBM's latest mainframes (which still are in use especially at big bad government places). They made Mike an IBM Fellow.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
Not true, Fred. The IBM 1401 had an instruction called Modify Address which expanded the amount of memory you could address. Yeah, it was a kludge, but basically Haanstra was right. You should have stayed with the 1401 architecture because it took several years to fix OS/360 and arguably it gave Lyndon Johnson and Bob McNamara the wrong answers to the progress of the Vietnam war.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
Great video. Very informative.
daveibukun 6 months ago
"When hitler needed some help catologing those pesky jews we were there" lol at ibm. where I work we use their systems and they constantly dick up lol
fitzlegit 7 months ago
@fitzlegit No, you constantly dick up, big guy. And I have read Edwin Black's IBM AND THE HOLOCAUST, and yes, I think IBM lies: in another video they use "wild duck" to refer to clients when that word meant an employee, such as Bob Bemer, Fred Haanstra, Herb Grosch and Gerald Weinberg, who would not conform. But get your facts straight and learn your job.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
@spinoza1111 lol you look like a rapist and you dont even know what i do for a living. We've had ibm come in over 20 times to "fix" the computers and they get worse so why do you feel like you have to say im bad at my job? is it because your a fucking troll who works for ibm? lol also idk what your arguing about troll because it looks like your agreeing that IBM helped the nazis. Bottom line, it proves the company doesnt give a shit about people.
fitzlegit 6 months ago
@fitzlegit You probably are bad at your job. I've always believed (over a thirty year career in software including assisting John Nash at Princeton and publishing a book on compilers) that functional illiterates (who write, for example, "your" instead of "you're" shouldn't program, and the late Edsger Dijkstra would agree. The customer engineers can't fix a mainframe that you screw up every time they leave. And to say someone is a rapist online means your a thug with anger management issues,
spinoza1111 6 months ago
@spinoza1111 "means you're* a thug..."
MW2xxnoobxx 5 months ago
IBM, Steve Wozniak and Apple created the first real personal computer. Get your facts straight. And stop pretending you were the inventors of personal computing.
leicaman 7 months ago
@leicaman Not true. Steve Woz claims to have been the first man on Earth to press a key and see a character on the screen. Unfortunately, at the time he said he was doing this, I drove my baby son to work with me at the Jewel Data Center in Oakbrook IL, sat him on my lap, and pressed keys to see characters comprising JCL on CMS. My baby son was entranced and said "dat yike TV". By the age of 12 he was an accomplished programmer.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
@spinoza1111 Your argument is missing the point. You were not working on a personal computer for the average person. Maybe Woz was wrong about being the first to use a keyboard and monitor as the terminal and readout from the computer, but the Apple I was the first personal computer. There is no dispute of that.
leicaman 6 months ago
@leicaman There's actually quite a lot of dispute. The Altair was the first PC according to standard histories. VM/CMS provided the equivalent to my son and myself at Jewel Data Center.
The point was that Woz claimed to be the first man on earth to press a key and see the character on the screen in his autobiography, and this is incorrect.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
I just sent this video to my grandson who is struggling with where he wants to go in life. He is a high schooler ready for his future, he has not picked his plans as of today. I love computers and I have tried to push him toward computer security. Maybe this will give him a new insight, being part of changing the world in the future. I wish I could be there and would have loved to be part of it. Maybe my genes will be !!
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barb9546 7 months ago
As a retired IBM'er who worked in R&D most of my career, and experienced the intellectual technical challenges described in this video, I feel this does give a good perspective an IBM R&D world, especially how it was in the 60's, 70's & 80's. I wish they would have included development of the 3081 mainframe computer, which drove tons of new technology like ceramic substrates, design automation software, plus many others, that was high risk, and led by brillant exec's, just like these projects.
captgrz 7 months ago
Is this like a medical company or something are they big?
MMBNM 7 months ago
@MMBNM They are a technology company, they have been working on computers and their ancestors for years. They do cool stuff.
GenevieveBellamount 7 months ago
@MMBNM You seriously have never heard of IBM?
banik20080 7 months ago
i was wondering why the background sounded like the music from Koyaanisqatsi, and then i saw "Philip Glass"
haha
thelonedissenter 7 months ago 2
Ayemanayebeyemer. Catchy.
magicmike323 8 months ago
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losquaraus 8 months ago
its time of a change its time for us to stop using mac or microsoft and start using IBM the company that started it all, that revolutionized the technological complex of society, this is IBM's big win or big lose.
Purnez 8 months ago
I want to be an IBMer.
AltoXn 8 months ago 12
Why, why why why? Why the haters? 23 dislikes... WTF?
szabg 8 months ago
entirely skipped the IBM contribution for warfighting and killing in the Vietnam War... very clever!!
MahatmaGandoo 8 months ago
@MahatmaGandoo Yes. And Bob McNamara's numbers were completely wrong, because so much time had to be spent at Da Nang debugging OS/360. PL/I was a joke until 1974 when a decent compiler was released. They should have stayed with the 1401's architecture and evolved in small steps. Smaller 1401s didn't need false flooring, could run with window air cons, and were often found still working away in tropical environments in India in the 1980s. The Army used them in field conditions in Europe.
spinoza1111 6 months ago
Beautiful. Brilliant story well told by Errol Morris.
Marmel3000 8 months ago 3
I love Technology
Sk8erMikez 8 months ago
@c4rlob: you're correct as far as you go. But if your point is to say that IBM couldn't have known what use its technology would be put to, I beg to differ. The only thing preventing anyone in the 30's from realizing what Hitler was planning was either ignorance, deliberate obtuseness, or being prejudiced by agreeing with him.
I'm no Luddite, I believe technology can be harnessed to do great good. But it requires responsibility and the willingness to say "no, that's not right, I won't do it."
nfinn42 8 months ago
Deeply inspiring!
eGuiders 8 months ago 2
Any tech company that has been around that long would be naive to think it wasn't responsible for as many horrors as wonders. No one refutes that technology has granted us uncountable advances; but no one refutes that it's also the culprit of countless harms.
I think Technology (which IBM admits they are a centurion of) is mostly a mirror of humanity, but since it's a very elite polarized mirror I have to guess if it leans in any direction it's toward the lesser angels of humanity.
c4rlob 8 months ago
AMAZING!! I am an IBMer since just 4 years and ....I don't know what to say! Just awesome!!
losquaraus 8 months ago
This would be a lot easier if there were a gas company that sold (and aggressively marketed) non-Arab oil. Like, "none of our gas comes from OPEC countries. None of our gas comes from state sponsors of terrorism." You'd think it'd be great PR. I can't understand why any energy company hasn't jumped at the chance to corner that marketing image yet, it's wide open for the taking. It would let people of good conscience vote with their dollars. Instead, there's no way to tell where it comes from.
nfinn42 8 months ago
If IBM regrets it so much, how about they put the money they earned from it where their mouth... well... isn't, since they've never apologized. So, sorry, don't believe you.
I agree re: the oil. One reason why I vote for politicians who favor US energy independence. I don't believe people have to be able to instantly fix all problems - but they ought to work towards change and justice wherever possible. Voting for energy independence is one example. Trying to right past wrongs is another.
nfinn42 8 months ago
#t=1237s even back then they were asking the equivalent of will it run Crysis (Pacman) lol
ruffrydasean 8 months ago 2
Essentially IBM is just another facet of the ongoing whitewash of the rampant antisemitism / support for eugenics that was widespread in America right up until Hitler's atrocities made it too embarrassing to admit. :P It became politically crucial to cast America historically as the good guy, and that meant denying that Hitler's ideas ever had any followers here. So, enjoy your sanitized, Disney version of history if you prefer, in which Hitler had no American collaborators. I prefer the truth.
nfinn42 8 months ago
@nfinn42 My grandfather was a career IBM man, and special officer during WW2. He was tasked with retrieving captured Hollerith punch cards from the Nazi for use in prosecution. He was on the beaches on D-day and followed the front line as they pushed towards Berlin. I know from my grandfather that IBM regretted any business with the Nazi. If you wish to believe IBM was pro Nazi, that's a right he fought for. Under your argument; if you buy gas U supported the US war in Iraq.
ThePunitiveDamages 8 months ago 2
@nfinn42 What?? Did you watch the same video that I did? How does Hiler figure into this in any way??
ibmjas1 8 months ago
@ibmjas1 you're reading one of the latest of a long conversation that's been ongoing here for several days. Read farther down the thread and you'll find where I detailed some of IBM's involvement with the Third Reich. I would link you to the wikipedia article about it but YT won't let me post links in a comment. It's in an article called IBM During World War II. It is also detailed in a book called IBM And The Holocaust by Edwin Black. I know it's shocking but you owe yourself the truth.
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@nfinn42 What?? Did you watch the same video that I did? How does Hitler figure into this in any way??
ibmjas1 8 months ago
Nonsense. The inventor of the printing press was dead before Mein Kampf was published. IBM could have chosen not to do business with a tyrannical regime that was bent on committing mass murder. They chose to put profit before humanity. Don't get snippy with me just because you're feeling defensive now that I've pointed out that rah-rah'ing IBM isn't such a bright thing to do. That's your problem, not mine.
nfinn42 8 months ago
I am Surprised they have any Retired guy's able to do this with all the outsourcing they have done..
DSINKS 8 months ago
I was there and it change rapidly, it was so interesting (fun) to see what was next. How we could streamline processes by using computers. Running the companies finances, building things, it was great.
An outsourced Programmer/Analyst 1978-2002
MaineAgent 8 months ago
hmm, global impact on business and society. Well, that's definitely true. IBM's computers certainly performed well in helping the Nazis commit mass murder upon European Jewry. From an efficiency standpoint it was quite a successful sale of equipment.
From a cultural standpoint? One thinks perhaps an apology might be in order.
nfinn42 8 months ago
Just to clarify since there seem to be a lot of ignorant people reading comments here: The difference between IBM and a bullet manufacturer is that the bullet manufacturer didn't get in bed with the mass murderer and design *special* bullets that were intended specifically for mass murder. IBM designed computers and specialized software specifically to help the Nazis identify and track their murder victims. Wikipedia is a good place to start learning about this.
IBM has yet to apologize.
nfinn42 8 months ago
@nfinn42 Before you start pointing your finger at "the ignorant people" here I recommend you do your research first. There was no such thing as "specialized software" and computers as we know them today back in 1939. I believe you are referring to the Hollerith Tabulating Machine designed for US census and licensed to the Germans in 1910 for same. The punch card system was used my many other countries and by your logic that's like blaming the FORD model T for global warming today.
ThePunitiveDamages 8 months ago
@ThePunitiveDamages Odd that you should mention Ford in this context, since Henry Ford was another contemporary American anti-semite. It was common at the time, and America was full of them.
And what problem do you have with the concept that those who aid and abet crimes against humanity ought to be considered to share in the guilt? How about we talk about corporate due diligence - it wouldn't have been difficult for the management of Dehomag to learn what was going on. They just didn't care.
nfinn42 8 months ago
@ThePunitiveDamages It won't let me post a link here, but if you do a search on Wikipedia under "IBM in the Holocaust" you can get started on finding sources to research this. The *fact* is that Ford's sponsoring the Dearborn Independent materially aided the propaganda efforts of antisemites. He was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest award the Nazis could give a foreigner. Hitler even mentions him in Mein Kampf. So don't bring Ford into this, you'll just embarrass yourself.
nfinn42 8 months ago
@ThePunitiveDamages And as for IBM, the *fact* is that their computers materially aided the commission of a crime against humanity SO GREAT that it has left an indelible scar on the human memory. They earned a profit off of every machine they sold. Now, if they had any sense of decency or ethics at all, they would be nauseated by having blood money in their bank account, and they would also want to distance themselves from the Nazis. Unfortunately IBM chose a whitewash rather than coming clean.
nfinn42 8 months ago
@nfinn42 I'm not denying that IBM franchised the Hollerith to the Germans, I'm stating that expecting an apology from IBM from doing business pre-WW2, is like blaming the printing press for Mien Kampf, or asking the creators of the internet for an apology for kiddy porn, or blaming Boeing for 9/11. Just because Edward Black wrote one conspiracy book now The Nuts think IBM was in on it. I bet if I wrote a book that NASA is covering up the fact that the moon is made of cheese, people would buy it
ThePunitiveDamages 8 months ago
I joined IBM November 15, 1965. I am retired now with 30 years service to IBM. I was hired in Dallas, Texas and retired in Monroe, Louisiana.
c21herb 8 months ago
I joined IBM November 15, 1965. I am retired now with 30 years service to IBM. I was hired in Dallas, Texas and retired in Monroe, Louisiana. My name is Herb Jones, 549203.
c21herb 8 months ago
Damn, that was awesome! My dad was an IBMer.
keadam0 8 months ago
I lol'd hard at the "Would it run pac man?" It's just like Crysis.
Mastado 8 months ago
Thumbs up if you're here because of Aperture Science!
JajaTF2 8 months ago 2
Thumbs up if Aperture Science sent you!
JajaTF2 8 months ago 17
The Apple I was the first personal computer to ship. Anything else said is a lie. But I still like what IBM does. It's Microsoft that blows. .
ermarauder 8 months ago
@american11asshole. They also hid profits from Germany during the war. Henry Watson (CEO during the forties) was given the highest award the Nazis could give for his political support of Nazism.
canadastani 8 months ago
I am an IBMer!
koopatrooper100 8 months ago
IBM has many reasons to be proud. It's been a leader on many levels and will surely continue to be, well into the future.
dmsutch 8 months ago
I am IBMer
nenebobo 8 months ago
someday soon I will work for IBM, mark my words
deakelem 8 months ago
@deakelem As will I. As an engineer! Good luck!
CGBSpender1 8 months ago
QUESTION ---- isnt Microsoft a more innovative company?
Still......barcodes are pretty cool ;-)
Hunkola 8 months ago
Being an IBMer is a lifestyle... Integrity and Excellence... Proud IBMer... Way to go Big Blue... Much love...
quiver11 8 months ago
Being an IBMer is a lifestyle... Integrity and Excellence... Proud IBMer... Way to go Big Blue... Much love...
quiver11 8 months ago
One of the biggest scandals ever was when Nixon and some Republican buddies of his convinced Congress to buy $25 million worth of IBM punch-cards on the eve of that technology becoming moot.
Of course Nixon got payola. Same as it ever was.
XmyAssYTmofo 8 months ago
Me and all the other thousands of fans of the amazing OS/2 does not forget and never forget to ask IBM to release any part of the source code of OS/2 developed by IBMers!
Regards,
Igor Isaias Banlian (From Brazil!)
IgorIsaiasBanlian 8 months ago
make me want to apply there after i graduate college
coopisgod13 8 months ago
Wow, I'm 18 and I didn't know IBM had done all that. Everything IBM has done is truly amazing and has transformed our society. I just hope I can help with something like that in the future. Congratulations IBM!!!
gumybear2 8 months ago 43
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IBM CATALOGED JEWS FOR THE NAZIS DURING WWII! FUCK YOU IBM!
american11asshole 8 months ago
@american11asshole The Nazi's killed the Jews, not IBM, you fucking asshole.
bluemax43a 8 months ago
@bluemax43a You're retarded. IBM made money off working with the Nazi's by cataloging Jews. I did not say the computer they used killed them directly.
american11asshole 8 months ago
Awesome!!!! Simply, Awesome!!!! Thank you!!!
butchman73 8 months ago
18 dislikes, must be radical apple people >_<
alexjenko 8 months ago
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Happy Anniversary IBM - This proud IBMer has 23 years and counting!!
THE BRAND STANDS.
divamaryc 8 months ago
Happy Anniversary IBM - I have 23 years and counting!!
THE BRAND STANDS.
divamaryc 8 months ago
I want to be an IBMer. This was a very inspirational video. Thank you IBM for pushing the world forward.
MrRonaldp1 8 months ago
Thanks IBM!!!
kilislv 8 months ago
I am an IBMer!
IBM Burlington, Vermont
myrddraal775 8 months ago
Wow, Philip Glass is the music director !!! FANTASTIC.
May IBM pass another successful 100 Year and make more contributions that will change the life and perspective and be the true IBM :) Proud to be an IBMer.
adilhadi 8 months ago
Skynet will kill us all.
romeedee 8 months ago
To much ppl not enough tech.
PiratGeneralen 8 months ago
This is WHY I am an IBMER! We can make this a Sarter Planet just watch!
rahulgsj 8 months ago
I am proud be an IBMer.
- Kiran IBM India
CKiran 8 months ago
Proud to be an IBMer.
- Kiran
IBM India
CKiran 8 months ago
I am an IBMer.
Thank you IBM!!!!
htoshmatov 8 months ago
and I am an IBMer ! :-)
mak1215 8 months ago
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adilhadi 8 months ago
I'm an IBMer.
KatLee808 8 months ago
Fantastic, 30 minutes ago I was not an IMB'er, but I think now I am. Great job guys!!!
dafreak757 8 months ago
I'm an IBMer!!! Oh wait no not I'm not.
ds12z 8 months ago
It is very important to support IBM's Unix & Linux, IBM and always a good option when necessary to replace the computer to run Linux.
The American Pc madeby IBM was much better than the Lenovo.
Izavos 9 months ago
Masterclass documentary.
Pundit2k 9 months ago
@Pundit2k I think you meant Master Race documentary.
Hyuiolosa 5 months ago
@Hyuiolosa No, I didn't. What does this have to do with Nazism?
Pundit2k 5 months ago
@Pundit2k IBM supported the Master Race. I thought you were referring to the Third Reich. My mistake.
Hyuiolosa 5 months ago
tl;dw; Did the video include the machineguns that IBM made such as the Browning BAR M1918? I guess technically they were "business machines" and had an impact on international business.
AlanAshton 9 months ago
@AlanAshton ...And the Playstation and Xbox processors that make kids become serial killers because they play Doom on it! Please...
fbrigno 8 months ago
I've been an IBMer since 2006. Love waking up every morning and knowing that I make a difference and that I get to embark on a journey with the most talented and intellectual individuals the world has to offer. I could never imagine having a career anywhere else!
bushu 9 months ago 2
I have worked in and for IBM for 41 years and I have seen changes that were amazing, and some that were distressing. I am proud to be a part of a company that has brought such incredible technology to the world. I WAS proud to be a part of a company that was committed to its employees. Job security was never an issue if you performed. Today, sadly, as an American, there is no "respect for the individual". IBM is all about satisfying quarterly earnings, out sourcing American jobs. How tragic.
UTubembgolfer05 10 months ago
Buy my patent. It makes IBM's more comfortable to use in your living room, or make me an IBM'er. I need a job. U.S. Patent # 7568760
BigBrotherHal2001 10 months ago
war machine?
what war machine?
survive81 10 months ago
I have been retired from IBM for 16 years and still today, "I'm an IBM'er
onrputt 10 months ago
Became an IBMer in 1967. Retired 2002. I was in Customer Engineering. Started servicing card machines and System 360/20. Taught new engineers for a while, managed for 10 years, and the printer division for 10 years. Shook hands with several CEO's and had several interesting temporary assignments. Retired after a wonderful career. There were challenges but always came out better except the last one when my position was eliminated.
akamm 10 months ago
I wonder if this Centennial film is going to honestly show IBM's involvement in creating a special system for the Nazis. This fact is well documented.
kxmode 10 months ago
I found this from watching the masters...
Chipoltegod2 10 months ago
The single worst job I have ever had was working in an IBM call center 1-800-IBM-4you. What a dehumanizing experiencing. I spent three weeks in training and two weeks indentured to a head-set using a language I think could be best described as "IBAmericanese", before I quit and took a job making synthetic hairballs for ceramic cats in downtown Toronto. Massive improvement.
TheTTBT 11 months ago 2
I'm starting to work in IBM this week and after viewing this video
i am so more excited! Can't wait!! :D
danielaamodio 11 months ago 3
I'm amazed that this video pulled me in for a half hour, since I'm feeling pressed for time this week, but it really did. Very very interesting Errol Morris - thanks.
mxyzyptlk 11 months ago 2
I am proud to bear the blue stripes. I am a proud IBMer. :)
jimhernando 11 months ago
Great video . . . great company. Spent from 1965 to 1970 in the Rochester, NY branch office and from 1970 to 1996 in Boca Raton. Quite a run.
pjeagan 11 months ago
While this may be a bit of very high production value corporate promotion, that absolutely ignores the errors of IBM's past, but I think any bit of art that promotes engineers, scientists, and thinkers as heroes should be lauded. Congrats goes to Mr. Morris and Mr. Glass on a job well done.
NYCsound67w 11 months ago 2
Saying that IBM bet it all is an insult to those of us who really bet it all. Mr Morris, Mr Glass you got bought.
ScottShuffitt 11 months ago
@ScottShuffitt What are you talking about?
bluemax79 10 months ago
I love being an IBMer. A chance to always do something new and a company that has a constant goal of innovation that matters for the world. I have recruiters call me at least once a month, but haven't heard anything that would want to make me leave.
familyorchestradad 1 year ago
21:57 - the Genographic project
gbirbilis 1 year ago
at 26:55 the late Benoit Mandelbrot, father of Fractal theory talks
gbirbilis 1 year ago
at 20:00 see the mother of the motherboard ;-)
gbirbilis 1 year ago
at 12:00 says IBM suggested the UPC barcode used for products
gbirbilis 1 year ago
at 15:00 speaks on IBM contribution to returning Apollo 13 back safe
gbirbilis 1 year ago
ok ibm dont forget your most famous contribution to society are yous proud of this
/watch?v=pkoM8RB-kJ0
copy and past it after the youtube . com on your browsers Address bar
toxiccrumpz 1 year ago
@toxiccrumpz
sigh, ignoring your improper grasp of the English language which only goes to undermine your 'argument', how on earth can you suggest that this tedious link is IBM's most famous contribution to society??? naive..
nelsoneill117 11 months ago
@toxiccrumpz
Furthermore, on the back of WW1, where Germany got screwed in the Treaty of Versailles, EVERYONE was trying to help them get back on their feet, plus getting them through the Great Depression. No one knew that we were heading into WW2 and most Germans didn't even know that Auschwitz, Dachau, etc. were Death Camps, let alone the IBM guys in New York!
Why would such a prestigious company at the forefront of technology knowingly jeopardise their image in such an incredible way? NAIVE.
nelsoneill117 11 months ago
@nelsoneill117 because of ignorant people like you
toxiccrumpz 11 months ago
huh
PadsandKeys 1 year ago
it is not 100x100, it should be 100x100x100 (they forgot the 100 videos)
abs2fast2furios 1 year ago
@Chicagokrzy wow you have nerdy parents
142kingsman 1 year ago
Even spend half of my 25 years with IBM PC's and half with Apple, I really must say: EAT THAT, STEVE JOBS! Honestly. I rally want to see, if Apple can show such continuity of innovation, when it's 100! I really doubt it. Go, blue giant!
eliaen 1 year ago
I am an IBMer
ashandish 1 year ago
merged, or broken to pieces. So whatever are your personal grouches against IBM, you have to admire that in being around for 100 years, and innovating at such a great pace, it has done better than a lot, and in the process has made the world abetted place to live in. Let's celebrate this iconic company's achievements and hope for a 100 more.
Proud to be an IBMer.
iBoroon 1 year ago 3
A recent study by Ellen de Rooij of the Stratix Group in Amsterdam indicates that the average life expectancy of all firms, regardless of size, measured in Japan and much of Europe, is only 12.5 years.
The average life expectancy of a multinational corporation-Fortune 500 or its equivalent-is between 40 and 50 years. This figure is based on most surveys of corporate births and deaths. A full one-third of the companies listed in the 1970 Fortune 500, for instance, had vanished by 1983-acquired,
iBoroon 1 year ago
I am 19, ive been running my ownsystem repair side business for about 6 years.
im a novice in the wide spectrum of computers.
I can honestly say that this video is extremely inspirational to myself personally and as an aspiring business owner.
death25 1 year ago 2
It has never been IBM's problem to innovate. The world knows IBM's technologies are second to none. It has always been the accepted norm that IBM can't sell it.
mikie263 1 year ago
I am in aw
I love IBM
BellTollsForThee 1 year ago
Wow I really want to work for IBM some day.
Dereks06 1 year ago 3