i dont lived in bangladesh from 1980 .i left bangladesh when i was kid.i respect zia ur rahman.but i dont like his political party .if he was good human then why he dont catch the shekh mujiburrahman killer and bring them in justice.why he help them.allah know the justice.and he ...
bongobondur killed er master planner was a ziaur rahman . r u unbelv see this video plz, youtube link ( Lawrence Lifschultz about Taher Killing - Mar 14, 2011)
Ziaur Rahman was a talented politician.............we should study abt him......though his son is a bitch.................whatever.........respect to him for leading the war.....
We do respect both of our leaders but why do we have to choose between shak hasina and khaleda zia? Who the f…ck they are?? What qualification they have to be our leaders? Just because one is daughter of our funding father and one is the wife of Zia? comeon now..... We need a new leadership just like shak mojibur or ziaur rahman.
If zia did evrerything so what did Bongobondhu?Our independence is not a matter of one year.Where were Zia before 1971.Compare with the activities of bongobondhu(from 1956-1970).I also like Zia but everybody should be respected according to his work.
zia was honest with his work its a sad history of our bd that he didn't last long but zia also didn't want to marry khaleda bcoz of her hoe stories and such he was the 1 who bought hasina back to ur country and she did all in her gasp to terminate our gr8st hero major zia we salute for what u did for our country
There was no leader like Zia and no other will born he is offcourse the greatest of sheikh Mujib want to know the proff when Mujib died people laughted but when Zia died look after the ZanaZ.....
zia was da grtst leader frm bangladesh....if he waz a rajakar i dnt understand den hw cam hiz janaja waz da biggest janaja frm bd...ppl dnt lyk rajakar den y ppl liked him?
Rakhi Bahiny,, killed 40 thousands innocent people , why they didnt kill all Razakers at that time to clean the country? Cant we blame them 4 nt killing Razakars? Why the leaders after the independence didnt cancelled the citizenship of all Razakars? If they did this would the Razakars could practice politics in BD? Do u hav any ans?
@KANON395 if tings were done the way u say they it mgt ead towrds a civil war......thnk abt tht fr a sec........war aftr war......and perhps our country would ve been divided between islamists and seculars...........it wont be any bettr fr the nation.........
@KANON395 thats one mistake destroy our today.they feed the snake and then zia ur rahman help them for build up with power.and now they are so big that we can not understand that.but allah knows that truth.he done the justice 50 percent 50 will do soon i think.
Some people say that-Zia brought Razakars to power. I would like 2 say 2 those people that- Zia has given the right to practice politics to all the people of Bangladesh introducing multi-party democracy.
zia was a real leader.. If he says something , people would beleive him, thats the quality for a great leader. he was very dynamic, very smart, and courageous. Bangladesh was at its great economic depression before Zia, and it gained pace of 5 percent first when he came ... The best thing is his foreign policy with US, middle east, that BD is still benefiting today. And he introduced ISLAM in our constitution. We would have a great SAARC if he was alive.
In Chittagong M.R.Siddiki Butcher of Chittagong was the incharge. Government Rest House was made the slaughter house. It was filled with knee deep of blood. Bangali doctors were busy in extracting blood and eye corneas from the victims.
People are so crazy..... everything is not so black and white as mujib bad zia good or vice versa......Mujib good leader hopeless organiser and AL now is an indian puppet. Zia honest to the core fantastic organiser and BNP today are a bunch of gangsters. Neither party nor the current leaders are worth compared to the either man. Recognising each mans talent do not diminish the other man. And recognising each mans faults also does not diminish them.
Zia with the help of the army has very well distorted the history of our country.... The freedom fighters are still alive and it is very painful to see the history becoming a lie infront of their eyes... Only if Ziaur Rahman never existed, Bangladesh would have seem democracy long before. Lets not forget how he took over power and made the razakar ministers... He is one of the greatest butchers of the history of bangladesh politics..
Which part of the history is distorted? The truth that Mujib was an unsuccessful leader. The truth that AL leaders including Mujib family members looted the whole country after 71 and Mujib remain silent? Which part is distorted?
And we have seen good enough of AL democracy. Paye dhoira maf o chai, doao chai - amar caretaker govt firay den. Gushti kilai bal er democracyr.
You would be in BAKSAL if Zia was not there - may be that is what is Democracy means to you - Govt of the AL, for the AL , by the AL - and only AL. Mujib is a respected leader and so is Bhasani, ZIa, Tajuddin & so on. What Mujib failed to do Tazuddin succeeded, when Mujib failed as a nation builder Zia proved a very efficient in nation building. The best contribution of Mujib,Tajuddin is Bangladesh For Zia its Bangladeshi Nationalism and assertive sovereign Bangladesh out of Indian hegemony.
Bangladesh would have been a different country with Zia. Mujib was good as a figurehead but proved a hopeless nation builder. Mujib handed over Bangladeshi territory to india with nothing in return and created a one party state. We should not forget but should forgive. Zia on the other hand in his sort time built up the army, took BD out of indias sphere and gave it true sovereignty. Zia and Mujib were great leaders, BD needed the former for longer. But neither man deserved their fate.
It is not correct because after liberation, India pulled out.....India was assisting new Bangladesh to establish itself as it was a new country ! India never interfered !
Wrong ! India pulled out not on their good intention but by pressure from Mujib. In the background RAW was creating chaos to destabilize CHT and Law & order. Mujib's only fault was he trusted India too much - Farakkah, Berubari are only a few cases. From the very inception of BD, India has tried to dominate and control it. India's plan was to annex Bangladesh so that NE- Assam becomes integrated to mainland. This is still a major strategic goal 2 counter Chinese threat.
Sikkim was annexed the same way in 1975. The same situation was created in Bangladesh so that it asked for merger with India. Infact, India was ready to militarily intervene in Bangladesh to annex it in 1975 but it retracted fearing backlash from world powers.
Wonder what was the advantage to annex Bangladesh....friend this is something new and false I hear. Sikkim was a reason. but Bangladesh would never been advantageous to India, politically nor economically, but a burden ! check your facts and let me know the source of your assumption.
My friend, If Sikkimis could deter India's annexation bid then I am sure your "Sikkim was a reason" would have turned into "Check your facts and let me know the source of your assumption". Nepal, Bhutan, SriLanka, Bangladesh are all examples of Indian hegemony policy - keep your smaller neighbor under suppression. Bangladesh is the land that links NE with Mainland. Control over it ensures safety of Siligury Chicken Neck. Using the land you get to NE to crush the insurgency.
India's annexation plan was strategic driven by geo political ambitions and economic goals as well. Gas pipeline from Myanmar to West Bengal through BGD, Gas reserves in the Bay of Bengal, Corridor to Assam through the plain land of BGD are a few objectives of India still today. If Indians are so pro Bangladeshis then why even put Farakkah/Tista Barrage and reduce wf. Why put trade barriers? Why not resolve the existing issues? Since 71 India has always wanted to manipulate bgd.
1971 Bgd's govt in exile had to sign a treaty to ensure India's call in every BGD matter related to BGD Security. 1972 India BGD Treaty was a continuation of the treaty and the pretext to intervene in Bangladesh. You can go trough the clauses if you want. Matters like - not keeping an army of our own, requiring to consult with India for BGD's internal matters, relations to other country totally trampled our Sovereignty. Such tendency can still be seen in Indian foreign policy towards us.
The treaty was not to annex Bangladesh, but only as a protection against former rulers (Pakistanis) in the event of the newly born nation in 1971-72. The circumstances at that time demanded such a treaty, but not to be understood as subjucation or annexation. Any new nation needs to have alliances for development whether military, economy. Even today the world over, including the US have treaties and alliances. India has an Alliance with Russia and the US to meet different purposes.
It is the PRETEXT that is the issue. Chogyal had a similar (with India) treaty in 1950 that made it a Indian protectorate only to be annexed 25 Years later - Can you justify this behaviour and at the same breath call India democratic? ex. Nepal - a land locked country totally dependent on India & cannot purchase better built military equipment from China else India ceases all port access to it. It is the use of such so called "friendly" treaty to justify meddling into internal affairs.
Annexation of Sikkim came in with the threat of the Chinese annexation following the Tibet. Sikkim had a Indian Political Officer stationed. The people were not in favour of the Chogyal. Sikkim preferred to be with India rather than China (Buddhist State). Sikkim is a progressive Indian State. Tibetans agitate even today against the Chinese. Nepal is a Hindu kingdom and prefers to align with India. Bhutan continues to prefer alignment with India for the same with the Chinese threat.
1. Why should Nepal prefer to Align with India as India is a "Secular" State where as Nepal is a Hindu State?
2. Sikkim is a state annexed by force by the largest democracy ?? Your reasoning may be counter productive for you if China forcefully annexes "South Tibet" in future.
3. When the Panjabis agitate for Khalistan or Kashmiris for Independence, Or Assam for A AHOM land and so on - do you see the same logic as "Tibetans agitate even today against the Chinese".
China is not a Buddhist State. It is a Communist State which do not recognize any Religion officially. Bhutan/Nepal is landlocked and is co-erced to align with INDIA for port accesses. If India truly respects their sovereignty then why does it take out port access when they want to purchase Chinese arms. In Srilanka the Tamil issue was created by RAW - why ?
I guess the question is whether it is India or China and Nepal prefers India rather China (the Tibet nightmare existing). Well, certain interference in politico-diplomatic relations is inherent when geo-political situation demands. Again if it was not India then it is China ! Yet the bottom line remains, despite all Nepal continues to run its own Govt, no meddling in internal governance ! You have to appreciate that ! Again independent, Dependent and Inter-dependent is part of any governance.
The question is interdependence based on covert intervention through RAW with an ultimate motive to force the govt. policy to align with India's - is the question. Your reasoning for Nepals aligning with India would have made sense if India was a Hindu State. it is clear from your argument that you along with most Indians consider INdia a Hindu State. its unfortunate bcos Pakistan was created for the Muslims but INdia was for all - atleast that was the argument.
"Well, certain interference in politico-diplomatic relations is inherent when geo-political situation demands" - is a very very dangerous statement. With nuclear deal with USA if it wants to interfere with your internal affairs like buying US made arms over Long term ally Russia would it be acceptable to you?? Should not India have the choice to buy arms as it seems fit for its own need. Think about it. You need to put yourself in Nepal/Bhutan's shoes see the issues.
Bangladesh has no issues about Indian annexation ..why would you say that. Yes, the former threat of the erstwhile East Pakistan is over. Bangladesh is better of today, independent unlike its experience with Punjabi dominated former West Pakistan.
In the post war situation Bangladesh annexation was on its way. Economy was being weakend, CHT problem was being instigated by RAW, Indian hegemony on the Mujib govt. was in evaery sphere - Bangladesh was free in writing only not in reality, it was being prepared to be amalgameted in the Indian Union. In the post 75 era the annexation bid is by proxy - keep a India aligned govt. in BD with the help of RAW funding. Bangladesh is better of & wd be even bttr wo the bullying tactics of India.
Only Morarji Desai's 1977 Govt was accomodative of Bangladeshis concerns. Even today I still hope people in India govt. sees Bangladesh the way his govt did. Never the less, Indira came Back and we all know what happened to South Talpatti and Ziaur Rahman.
India respects Bangladesh as a nation, its sovereignty and the Bengali people in Bangladesh and West Bengal (India) have lots in common (religion apart). Present Govt under Haseena is held in high esteem by the Govt. of India as always !
I appreciate your view. However, this respect as a nation had to be earned by realigning our foreign policy. The change in 1975 and subsequent changes helped Bangladesh assert its sovereignty. We want India as a friend on equal footing - not a bully. Indira's govt. set a very bad precedence which I hope will be corrected by later govt.s. (con.t)
India and Bangladesh should have friendly relations irrespective of any particular party in power (both in India/BGD). India at this junture do seem to understand that its neighbors weakness is not its strength - that is a late yet a good realization. We hope things get better between this 2 neighbors.
Everybody deserves due credit. Though a great leader,Mujib didn't fight the battle on ground,take bullets,organize troops. Osmani & Zia did that. Yes,Mujib was jailed. So,how could he? But that's no excuse for taking credit away from others. Mujib didn't have those skills,as evidenced when he failed to discipline his own party & family. Those 3 complemented each other along with all known & unknown Freedom Fighters. If there is no honesty of purpose,younger generation will keep on getting misled
some people are so dumb and uneducated in a way that they think they can be smart ass with real educated people. cuz they try to put SK mujib and M zia parallel. where sk mujib and where zia. have you ever heard the phrase " where the moon is and where the zit on ass". i have no doubt that zia was smart and abmitious also power hungry without human heart-can you remember how he kill his saviour. again truth hurts!!
@bengali2007babu ..ha ha as if mujib did nothing wth siraj siakder..& his bakshal & rokhhi bahini...& he wasn't waiiting to b the minister of east pakistan...but the west pakistan didn't agree...otherwise people of bangladesh may have the opportunity to see his true face..like he showed after freedom of BANGLADESH..
Say what you want but u cannot deny without Mujib or Zia today bangladesh would be formes. Mujib created bangladesh with people like Zia. Zia sustained bangladesh by looking at people like Mujib. BNP or Awami League noy, ami bangladesh durnitey saara chiy
ISLAMIC POLITICS create divisions within the same community. ISLAMIC POLITICS (Jamate Islam, Al-Qaeda, Taleban etc.) gave spaces to other Communities to consider PROPHET MUHAMMED as TERRORIST. Secular Muslims and even Communist Muslims did not scandalize ISLAM or Prophets. But ISLAMIC POLITICS proved that Prophet Muhammed was TERRORIST. If you want to save Prophet Muhammed and KORAN, just BAN islamic politics.
This Bastard Tareq Zia ..released by giving 15 Thousand core taka to MOIN. Motherchod.....A perfect Magir Pola. Chutmarani ZIA FAMILY. SHala ra not only BAIMAN but also PAKI choda
ZIA was killer, his wife is slut, his one son (kuku-r) is heroin addict and ohter son (tarek)is maagibaj. plus all of them liar, ungrateful, dumb and uneducated. kzia 8th grade pass and prime minister, LOLZ)
i am an awamileaguer i really wish BNP do well for sake of democracy in my beloved country but they must clean their closet. as long as SAKA gangs are in BNP bnp's doomes day will be nearer.
thanks for this great video of Great person. Mujib ur Rehman was a great leader, he was honest, he was great person . unfortunately west Pakistani don't pay him respect and did not take him Sirius. Allah keep his name always high as Ghandi- ji and give him place in Jannat. amin
Why Should Zia-- Why not Khuni Zia
KesSveta 1 month ago
i dont lived in bangladesh from 1980 .i left bangladesh when i was kid.i respect zia ur rahman.but i dont like his political party .if he was good human then why he dont catch the shekh mujiburrahman killer and bring them in justice.why he help them.allah know the justice.and he ...
horsepower2007 1 month ago
bongobondur killed er master planner was a ziaur rahman . r u unbelv see this video plz, youtube link ( Lawrence Lifschultz about Taher Killing - Mar 14, 2011)
bdctgrubel 5 months ago
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bdctgrubel 5 months ago
He was the real president of Bangladesh who loved and walk with poor people.
shozibahmed 7 months ago 2
Bongobondhu ekta kutta
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bigassprick 8 months ago
Ziaur Rahman was a talented politician.............we should study abt him......though his son is a bitch.................whatever.........respect to him for leading the war.....
TheSylrapz 9 months ago
We do respect both of our leaders but why do we have to choose between shak hasina and khaleda zia? Who the f…ck they are?? What qualification they have to be our leaders? Just because one is daughter of our funding father and one is the wife of Zia? comeon now..... We need a new leadership just like shak mojibur or ziaur rahman.
tanzil711 10 months ago
If zia did evrerything so what did Bongobondhu?Our independence is not a matter of one year.Where were Zia before 1971.Compare with the activities of bongobondhu(from 1956-1970).I also like Zia but everybody should be respected according to his work.
zahedeco 10 months ago
Ziaur Rahman also killed many people
zahedeco 10 months ago
zia's son is a kutta lol
mazziist 10 months ago
zia was honest with his work its a sad history of our bd that he didn't last long but zia also didn't want to marry khaleda bcoz of her hoe stories and such he was the 1 who bought hasina back to ur country and she did all in her gasp to terminate our gr8st hero major zia we salute for what u did for our country
supremejen019 1 year ago
There was no leader like Zia and no other will born he is offcourse the greatest of sheikh Mujib want to know the proff when Mujib died people laughted but when Zia died look after the ZanaZ.....
nasifniloy 1 year ago
zia was da grtst leader frm bangladesh....if he waz a rajakar i dnt understand den hw cam hiz janaja waz da biggest janaja frm bd...ppl dnt lyk rajakar den y ppl liked him?
azzainp 1 year ago
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Fuking rajakar mir zia,may Allah put him hell,mir zia is the killer of bangabondhu.
xxputerxx 1 year ago
zia ekta kutta
babulaustriaaa 1 year ago 6
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feerarimon 1 year ago
@babulaustriaaa tumi akti magi
bayoubiju 1 year ago
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Rakhi Bahiny,, killed 40 thousands innocent people , why they didnt kill all Razakers at that time to clean the country? Cant we blame them 4 nt killing Razakars? Why the leaders after the independence didnt cancelled the citizenship of all Razakars? If they did this would the Razakars could practice politics in BD? Do u hav any ans?
KANON395 1 year ago 7
@KANON395 if tings were done the way u say they it mgt ead towrds a civil war......thnk abt tht fr a sec........war aftr war......and perhps our country would ve been divided between islamists and seculars...........it wont be any bettr fr the nation.........
MrDavyjoneslocker 9 months ago
@KANON395 thats one mistake destroy our today.they feed the snake and then zia ur rahman help them for build up with power.and now they are so big that we can not understand that.but allah knows that truth.he done the justice 50 percent 50 will do soon i think.
horsepower2007 1 month ago
Some people say that-Zia brought Razakars to power. I would like 2 say 2 those people that- Zia has given the right to practice politics to all the people of Bangladesh introducing multi-party democracy.
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KANON395 1 year ago 2
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Zia was the one who brought the razakars to power! He was the one behing Bangabandhu's killing! What a traitor!
fokirbata 2 years ago
Bangladesh needs to get rid of the two stupid ladies. One is big cunt Indian asslicker another one is fool.
SouthFacedWindows 2 years ago
@SouthFacedWindows .hgahahahahha
hahah.but so is the problem not solved.we the peopel has elected them. so who we r then?lol
altrnatvthinker 2 years ago
zia was a real leader.. If he says something , people would beleive him, thats the quality for a great leader. he was very dynamic, very smart, and courageous. Bangladesh was at its great economic depression before Zia, and it gained pace of 5 percent first when he came ... The best thing is his foreign policy with US, middle east, that BD is still benefiting today. And he introduced ISLAM in our constitution. We would have a great SAARC if he was alive.
skillcentre 2 years ago
BORN LEADER..............
enu007 2 years ago
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Zia hochhe Bangladesher life time pichhon marar mohan neta....the biggest criminal in Bangladesh history....killer of thousands of army officers...
banglarkothakoi 2 years ago
Same Circuit House ?
In Chittagong M.R.Siddiki Butcher of Chittagong was the incharge. Government Rest House was made the slaughter house. It was filled with knee deep of blood. Bangali doctors were busy in extracting blood and eye corneas from the victims.
MohammadiBegum 2 years ago
Nice job
mizbiplob 2 years ago
It simply proves that they were human, we all need to stop deifying either but appreciate their contribution for the nation
syed44444 2 years ago
People are so crazy..... everything is not so black and white as mujib bad zia good or vice versa......Mujib good leader hopeless organiser and AL now is an indian puppet. Zia honest to the core fantastic organiser and BNP today are a bunch of gangsters. Neither party nor the current leaders are worth compared to the either man. Recognising each mans talent do not diminish the other man. And recognising each mans faults also does not diminish them.
syed44444 2 years ago 2
Points well made!
mamamami2005 2 years ago
Zia with the help of the army has very well distorted the history of our country.... The freedom fighters are still alive and it is very painful to see the history becoming a lie infront of their eyes... Only if Ziaur Rahman never existed, Bangladesh would have seem democracy long before. Lets not forget how he took over power and made the razakar ministers... He is one of the greatest butchers of the history of bangladesh politics..
timelesshadows 2 years ago
Which part of the history is distorted? The truth that Mujib was an unsuccessful leader. The truth that AL leaders including Mujib family members looted the whole country after 71 and Mujib remain silent? Which part is distorted?
And we have seen good enough of AL democracy. Paye dhoira maf o chai, doao chai - amar caretaker govt firay den. Gushti kilai bal er democracyr.
imranulh 2 years ago
You would be in BAKSAL if Zia was not there - may be that is what is Democracy means to you - Govt of the AL, for the AL , by the AL - and only AL. Mujib is a respected leader and so is Bhasani, ZIa, Tajuddin & so on. What Mujib failed to do Tazuddin succeeded, when Mujib failed as a nation builder Zia proved a very efficient in nation building. The best contribution of Mujib,Tajuddin is Bangladesh For Zia its Bangladeshi Nationalism and assertive sovereign Bangladesh out of Indian hegemony.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
Bangladesh would have been a different country with Zia. Mujib was good as a figurehead but proved a hopeless nation builder. Mujib handed over Bangladeshi territory to india with nothing in return and created a one party state. We should not forget but should forgive. Zia on the other hand in his sort time built up the army, took BD out of indias sphere and gave it true sovereignty. Zia and Mujib were great leaders, BD needed the former for longer. But neither man deserved their fate.
syed44444 2 years ago 2
It is not correct because after liberation, India pulled out.....India was assisting new Bangladesh to establish itself as it was a new country ! India never interfered !
knnan 2 years ago
Wrong ! India pulled out not on their good intention but by pressure from Mujib. In the background RAW was creating chaos to destabilize CHT and Law & order. Mujib's only fault was he trusted India too much - Farakkah, Berubari are only a few cases. From the very inception of BD, India has tried to dominate and control it. India's plan was to annex Bangladesh so that NE- Assam becomes integrated to mainland. This is still a major strategic goal 2 counter Chinese threat.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
Sikkim was annexed the same way in 1975. The same situation was created in Bangladesh so that it asked for merger with India. Infact, India was ready to militarily intervene in Bangladesh to annex it in 1975 but it retracted fearing backlash from world powers.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
Wonder what was the advantage to annex Bangladesh....friend this is something new and false I hear. Sikkim was a reason. but Bangladesh would never been advantageous to India, politically nor economically, but a burden ! check your facts and let me know the source of your assumption.
knnan 2 years ago
My friend, If Sikkimis could deter India's annexation bid then I am sure your "Sikkim was a reason" would have turned into "Check your facts and let me know the source of your assumption". Nepal, Bhutan, SriLanka, Bangladesh are all examples of Indian hegemony policy - keep your smaller neighbor under suppression. Bangladesh is the land that links NE with Mainland. Control over it ensures safety of Siligury Chicken Neck. Using the land you get to NE to crush the insurgency.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
India's annexation plan was strategic driven by geo political ambitions and economic goals as well. Gas pipeline from Myanmar to West Bengal through BGD, Gas reserves in the Bay of Bengal, Corridor to Assam through the plain land of BGD are a few objectives of India still today. If Indians are so pro Bangladeshis then why even put Farakkah/Tista Barrage and reduce wf. Why put trade barriers? Why not resolve the existing issues? Since 71 India has always wanted to manipulate bgd.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
1971 Bgd's govt in exile had to sign a treaty to ensure India's call in every BGD matter related to BGD Security. 1972 India BGD Treaty was a continuation of the treaty and the pretext to intervene in Bangladesh. You can go trough the clauses if you want. Matters like - not keeping an army of our own, requiring to consult with India for BGD's internal matters, relations to other country totally trampled our Sovereignty. Such tendency can still be seen in Indian foreign policy towards us.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
The treaty was not to annex Bangladesh, but only as a protection against former rulers (Pakistanis) in the event of the newly born nation in 1971-72. The circumstances at that time demanded such a treaty, but not to be understood as subjucation or annexation. Any new nation needs to have alliances for development whether military, economy. Even today the world over, including the US have treaties and alliances. India has an Alliance with Russia and the US to meet different purposes.
knnan 2 years ago
It is the PRETEXT that is the issue. Chogyal had a similar (with India) treaty in 1950 that made it a Indian protectorate only to be annexed 25 Years later - Can you justify this behaviour and at the same breath call India democratic? ex. Nepal - a land locked country totally dependent on India & cannot purchase better built military equipment from China else India ceases all port access to it. It is the use of such so called "friendly" treaty to justify meddling into internal affairs.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
Annexation of Sikkim came in with the threat of the Chinese annexation following the Tibet. Sikkim had a Indian Political Officer stationed. The people were not in favour of the Chogyal. Sikkim preferred to be with India rather than China (Buddhist State). Sikkim is a progressive Indian State. Tibetans agitate even today against the Chinese. Nepal is a Hindu kingdom and prefers to align with India. Bhutan continues to prefer alignment with India for the same with the Chinese threat.
knnan 2 years ago
1. Why should Nepal prefer to Align with India as India is a "Secular" State where as Nepal is a Hindu State?
2. Sikkim is a state annexed by force by the largest democracy ?? Your reasoning may be counter productive for you if China forcefully annexes "South Tibet" in future.
3. When the Panjabis agitate for Khalistan or Kashmiris for Independence, Or Assam for A AHOM land and so on - do you see the same logic as "Tibetans agitate even today against the Chinese".
mamamami2005 2 years ago
China is not a Buddhist State. It is a Communist State which do not recognize any Religion officially. Bhutan/Nepal is landlocked and is co-erced to align with INDIA for port accesses. If India truly respects their sovereignty then why does it take out port access when they want to purchase Chinese arms. In Srilanka the Tamil issue was created by RAW - why ?
mamamami2005 2 years ago
I guess the question is whether it is India or China and Nepal prefers India rather China (the Tibet nightmare existing). Well, certain interference in politico-diplomatic relations is inherent when geo-political situation demands. Again if it was not India then it is China ! Yet the bottom line remains, despite all Nepal continues to run its own Govt, no meddling in internal governance ! You have to appreciate that ! Again independent, Dependent and Inter-dependent is part of any governance.
knnan 2 years ago
The question is interdependence based on covert intervention through RAW with an ultimate motive to force the govt. policy to align with India's - is the question. Your reasoning for Nepals aligning with India would have made sense if India was a Hindu State. it is clear from your argument that you along with most Indians consider INdia a Hindu State. its unfortunate bcos Pakistan was created for the Muslims but INdia was for all - atleast that was the argument.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
"Well, certain interference in politico-diplomatic relations is inherent when geo-political situation demands" - is a very very dangerous statement. With nuclear deal with USA if it wants to interfere with your internal affairs like buying US made arms over Long term ally Russia would it be acceptable to you?? Should not India have the choice to buy arms as it seems fit for its own need. Think about it. You need to put yourself in Nepal/Bhutan's shoes see the issues.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
You can refer to late J.N. Dixit's comments (Indian ambassador to BGD)
mamamami2005 2 years ago
Bangladesh has no issues about Indian annexation ..why would you say that. Yes, the former threat of the erstwhile East Pakistan is over. Bangladesh is better of today, independent unlike its experience with Punjabi dominated former West Pakistan.
knnan 2 years ago
In the post war situation Bangladesh annexation was on its way. Economy was being weakend, CHT problem was being instigated by RAW, Indian hegemony on the Mujib govt. was in evaery sphere - Bangladesh was free in writing only not in reality, it was being prepared to be amalgameted in the Indian Union. In the post 75 era the annexation bid is by proxy - keep a India aligned govt. in BD with the help of RAW funding. Bangladesh is better of & wd be even bttr wo the bullying tactics of India.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
Only Morarji Desai's 1977 Govt was accomodative of Bangladeshis concerns. Even today I still hope people in India govt. sees Bangladesh the way his govt did. Never the less, Indira came Back and we all know what happened to South Talpatti and Ziaur Rahman.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
India respects Bangladesh as a nation, its sovereignty and the Bengali people in Bangladesh and West Bengal (India) have lots in common (religion apart). Present Govt under Haseena is held in high esteem by the Govt. of India as always !
knnan 2 years ago
I appreciate your view. However, this respect as a nation had to be earned by realigning our foreign policy. The change in 1975 and subsequent changes helped Bangladesh assert its sovereignty. We want India as a friend on equal footing - not a bully. Indira's govt. set a very bad precedence which I hope will be corrected by later govt.s. (con.t)
mamamami2005 2 years ago
India and Bangladesh should have friendly relations irrespective of any particular party in power (both in India/BGD). India at this junture do seem to understand that its neighbors weakness is not its strength - that is a late yet a good realization. We hope things get better between this 2 neighbors.
mamamami2005 2 years ago
Everybody deserves due credit. Though a great leader,Mujib didn't fight the battle on ground,take bullets,organize troops. Osmani & Zia did that. Yes,Mujib was jailed. So,how could he? But that's no excuse for taking credit away from others. Mujib didn't have those skills,as evidenced when he failed to discipline his own party & family. Those 3 complemented each other along with all known & unknown Freedom Fighters. If there is no honesty of purpose,younger generation will keep on getting misled
PenPress 3 years ago
some people are so dumb and uneducated in a way that they think they can be smart ass with real educated people. cuz they try to put SK mujib and M zia parallel. where sk mujib and where zia. have you ever heard the phrase " where the moon is and where the zit on ass". i have no doubt that zia was smart and abmitious also power hungry without human heart-can you remember how he kill his saviour. again truth hurts!!
bengali2007babu 3 years ago
@bengali2007babu ..ha ha as if mujib did nothing wth siraj siakder..& his bakshal & rokhhi bahini...& he wasn't waiiting to b the minister of east pakistan...but the west pakistan didn't agree...otherwise people of bangladesh may have the opportunity to see his true face..like he showed after freedom of BANGLADESH..
supercool2050 1 year ago
Say what you want but u cannot deny without Mujib or Zia today bangladesh would be formes. Mujib created bangladesh with people like Zia. Zia sustained bangladesh by looking at people like Mujib. BNP or Awami League noy, ami bangladesh durnitey saara chiy
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Fact1971 3 years ago
thappor die haram jada tor daat felai dea dorkar. Shala kuttar bachcha, bap er porichoy thik ase tor?
sdsadasd25 3 years ago
i respect both zia and mujib,great bangladeshi
saruhagu 3 years ago
Great Guy, he was our "supposed" Mahatir Mohammad if he was alive
ratulivan 3 years ago
This Bastard Tareq Zia ..released by giving 15 Thousand core taka to MOIN. Motherchod.....A perfect Magir Pola. Chutmarani ZIA FAMILY. SHala ra not only BAIMAN but also PAKI choda
romantictheman 3 years ago
ZIA was killer, his wife is slut, his one son (kuku-r) is heroin addict and ohter son (tarek)is maagibaj. plus all of them liar, ungrateful, dumb and uneducated. kzia 8th grade pass and prime minister, LOLZ)
truth hurts!
bengali2007babu 3 years ago
u fukn basterd
kalamjubair3810 3 years ago
yo bengali2007 u right about hes wife n son
but ZIA n mujib was a good leader.
sr1014lf 3 years ago
ZIA was the best president ever, and BNP is just doing bad now, but it'll will rise again! Bangladesh Zindabaad!
winteristoocold 3 years ago
i am an awamileaguer i really wish BNP do well for sake of democracy in my beloved country but they must clean their closet. as long as SAKA gangs are in BNP bnp's doomes day will be nearer.
bengali2007babu 3 years ago
Zia is a Mader CHOT & Khankir Pola, and his two son also a perfect khankir pole...chutmaranir puth
romantictheman 3 years ago
thanks for this great video of Great person. Mujib ur Rehman was a great leader, he was honest, he was great person . unfortunately west Pakistani don't pay him respect and did not take him Sirius. Allah keep his name always high as Ghandi- ji and give him place in Jannat. amin
fahad56 3 years ago 2