Watching Landowskas "claws" makes one think "Ouch!", - but she did allright, as we know. What hurts and destroys one can be absolutely without problems for another.
In the mid seventies I had the opportunity to listen to José Iturbi in Guanajuato, Mexico. I was a child and he made a deep impression on me. Thanks for this clip!
@1401JSC Please do not do such thing. The basic piano hand position is not this one, and in works from Beethoven on, it will NOT work at all. The only reason this works is because it promotes a "touché" appropriate to this harpsichord. However, if you see an authenticist harpsichord performer, his hand position will have nothing to do with Iturbi's or Landowska's. Therefore, I do not know to what extent this "curled" position is a physical demand of the instrument.
Either way, just because brilliant players like Iturbi or Landowska can do it, it doesn't mean that this position fits to everyone. The basic piano hand position, "roof-like", is the one that should be teached when on a piano. This is my opinion, anyway.
Revival harpsichords were built using piano technology and were never intended to be "authentic" period instruments. Still, they sparked an interest in the harpsichord music, and many modern makers do build instruments in the traditional way.
@Hofman1895 Ok, one has to take into account that was the very period when we all thought Baroque was to be played "romantically", but still, that's no good to me (I have worked so much on the Rameau suites that I see exactly the typical mistakes he makes... Maybe he helps us measure the distance with what we have now, like Scott Ross, or Olivier Baumont... or even William Christie playing Rameau (methinks he is the best)
where was he from? i know he resided in france at that time but he doesn't really sound french...also, there's a supposed quote of him in the video description wich is in dutch? so could it be he was dutch? just curious
Hi, he was born in Valencia, Spain, he went to Paris to study at the Conservatory there when he was 14, after a few years when WW1 broke out he moved home again and a bit later to Geneva, again to Paris and much later to the States.
The Dutch line is not a quote but the title of my book about Iturbi's life and pianotechnique. Dagmar
I heard the lute-like sound on a harpsichord on The Rolling Stone's "In Another Land", Traffic's "No Face No Name No Number", and The Door's "Soft Parade".
When creating a note, the hammer of the harpsichord doesn´t beat the string in the way a piano does, but instead snaps it, by means of a metal nail construction. In other words, it is a mechanized multi-snap instrument, a kind of "multi-guitar". Fantastic !
Well, this is a harpsichord, but the pedals function differently. On a harpsichord you often find stops instead of pedals, but I guess it's just down to design
Wonderful video. I know nothing of the harpsichord but find it the most fascinating of all the classical music instruments. The sound is very distinctive.
He recieved lessons from Wanda Landowska. That´s the reason for his fingers position. I remembered that he also received the highest note in his studies from Fauré.
I was about to write that myself, but then I realized that what mishagrey was referring to was when Horowitz played Scarlatti (he had his fingers curled up then.)
I just watched a few Scarlatti sonatas on the 'Horowitz in Moscow' DVD, and he also plays them with flat fingers. But I've seen him play sometimes with very curled fingers in some passages in other pieces, it would be interesting to know what kind of sound he produced with it. I'll have to look into that. Horowitz himself insisted on playing with the whole finger phalanx and not only with the fingertip.
Can somebody please recommend a really good harpsichord method book or something to improve at playing in the style of 17th/18th harpsichord players. Thanks.
Although Wanda Landowska recorded Mozart on the Piano, she is best remembered for her performances, teaching, recordings and writings which played a large role in reviving the popularity of the harpsichord. She was the first person to record Bach's Goldberg Variations on the harpsichord (1931).
The four fragments with Iturbi playing Rameau, Liszt, Chopin and Albeniz come from two short-films he made in the early 40's. You can only find them on 16mm films. I bought them on e-bay and let someone put them on DVD for me. The original quality is much better, but I had to reduce it to get it on you-tube.
There's another fragment of Iturbi playing a harpsichord on "The art of José Iturbi", a VAI-DVD of performances he made for "The Bell Telephone Hour". But he only plays "Tambourin".
I work with a harpsichordbuilder (when I'm not studying). This is not a typical harpsichord; its sound is very different - as are the looks of it. Interesting! I wonder who built it!
It is nice. I played one once. The keys that are black and white on a piano was the opposite on the harpsichord I was playing and it drove me a little luney. lol But it sounds great for baroque style music.
No matter how far reproduction harpsichords have developed since the filming of this, it's somewhat reassuring to see how closely Iturbi's ornamentation follows modern practice.
Your video clip is great and I've rated it as awesome. Please check out mine on some 1920's trading cards of musical instruments, including the harpsichord.
the harpsichord technique it's very different from the piano technique since the harpsichord keyboard is very light and very sensible, so the attack is basically finger-only, to avoid noise and to get a fine sound
TY Hofman1895 for posting this lovely music.
paulostroff99 6 months ago
He and Landowska were apparently both double-jointed.
zzindorf 8 months ago
I had no idea Iturbi studied with Landowska. Very interesting.
marcxopoco 10 months ago
The harpsichord is played with very curled fingers.
14001 must do a lot of harm as a teacher.
marcxopoco 10 months ago
"Man, it looks like a piano, and sounds like a cembalo..., wahnsinn!"
Tempel of Yerushalem
RainerPoppe 1 year ago
Watching Landowskas "claws" makes one think "Ouch!", - but she did allright, as we know. What hurts and destroys one can be absolutely without problems for another.
metteholm75 1 year ago
dracula!
keepitacrime 1 year ago
beautiful playing it ashame the sound is so garbled
hifijohn 2 years ago
In the mid seventies I had the opportunity to listen to José Iturbi in Guanajuato, Mexico. I was a child and he made a deep impression on me. Thanks for this clip!
vicenteaboites 2 years ago
Iturbi, having been a great pianist. He played the score of a Song to Remember.
One could wish he left off playing the harpsichord while he was still ahead.
There are some things in the past that are best forgotten.
mrmolinodelahoz 2 years ago
I have a little girl piano pupil who curls up her fingers like this.
It makes me stressed to see such muscular tension for nothing.
However, José is plaing brilliantly. Maybe I should stopasking the little girn not to do that....
1401JSC 2 years ago
You can even make a fist without muscular tension, so the form of the fingers has nothing to do with tension.
Hofman1895 2 years ago
it takes no muscular tension to curl one's fingers like that
stolendata 2 years ago
@1401JSC How can she play forte like that? My fingers hurt when I try to play like that... Does she play with her fingernails?
tunglour 1 year ago
@1401JSC perhaps she should switch to the harpsichord then - I was taught to always do that
reinpost 1 year ago
@1401JSC You are meant to curl your fingers like that when you play the harpsichord.
The harpsichord is not the piano. The harpsichord requires a difference style of touch.
CardinalPugwash 1 year ago
@1401JSC Please do not do such thing. The basic piano hand position is not this one, and in works from Beethoven on, it will NOT work at all. The only reason this works is because it promotes a "touché" appropriate to this harpsichord. However, if you see an authenticist harpsichord performer, his hand position will have nothing to do with Iturbi's or Landowska's. Therefore, I do not know to what extent this "curled" position is a physical demand of the instrument.
crybanshee 6 months ago
Either way, just because brilliant players like Iturbi or Landowska can do it, it doesn't mean that this position fits to everyone. The basic piano hand position, "roof-like", is the one that should be teached when on a piano. This is my opinion, anyway.
crybanshee 6 months ago
i believe this instrument is one made by the firm Pleyel. Wanda Landowska used such an instrument, as did Sylvia Marlowe.
williejax2 2 years ago
Ageed it looks and sounds like an early Pleyel.
chriswales19 2 years ago
Iturbi makes it look so easy, but I am not fooled. M. Rameau was a genius, and Iturbi is a true artist. Art can hardly be more expressive than this.
Phorquieu 2 years ago 11
i can listen to this instrument for hours on end
kotraquin 2 years ago 4
It is rare to see this type of harpsicord!
Actually this is the first time I see it.
Tank you Hofman for uploading this video!
beautyamsonia 2 years ago
Revival harpsichords were built using piano technology and were never intended to be "authentic" period instruments. Still, they sparked an interest in the harpsichord music, and many modern makers do build instruments in the traditional way.
lichtbroeder 2 years ago
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this is an electrical harpsichord isn't it?
trabalhosmanuais 3 years ago
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imbored1996 3 years ago
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imbored1996 3 years ago
Great to see Iturbi again.
robotnik77 3 years ago 3
And......¿How did you got this? O_O
Freakid1494 3 years ago
A 16mm film from 1940.
Hofman1895 3 years ago
It's amazing how does this has survived the years, it's weird too. Well thank you for the reply.
Freakid1494 3 years ago
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beautyamsonia 2 years ago
@Hofman1895 Ok, one has to take into account that was the very period when we all thought Baroque was to be played "romantically", but still, that's no good to me (I have worked so much on the Rameau suites that I see exactly the typical mistakes he makes... Maybe he helps us measure the distance with what we have now, like Scott Ross, or Olivier Baumont... or even William Christie playing Rameau (methinks he is the best)
Connie0755 1 year ago
@Freakid1494 You mean playing Rameau as badly as he does? Well he plays too fast, he had better give a try at Chopin!
Connie0755 1 year ago
Excellent, 5***** and a favorite, keep well, Yorgos
gkertsopoulos 3 years ago
such finesse
stolendata 3 years ago 2
wow!
hardcorechicano 3 years ago 2
yo i'm doing a report omn a harpsicord
thegreatwhales 3 years ago 2
yaah, harpsichords rock
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago 3
i like harpsichord much more than piano. Yet this one, maybe its for the recording, sounds very low
jewish1972 3 years ago
where was he from? i know he resided in france at that time but he doesn't really sound french...also, there's a supposed quote of him in the video description wich is in dutch? so could it be he was dutch? just curious
jella11 3 years ago
Hi, he was born in Valencia, Spain, he went to Paris to study at the Conservatory there when he was 14, after a few years when WW1 broke out he moved home again and a bit later to Geneva, again to Paris and much later to the States.
The Dutch line is not a quote but the title of my book about Iturbi's life and pianotechnique. Dagmar
Hofman1895 3 years ago
ah, thank you, of dank u, daar u waarschijnlijk nederlands of vlaams bent.
had ik moeten weten van die "citaat". geweldige video
jella11 3 years ago
I heard the lute-like sound on a harpsichord on The Rolling Stone's "In Another Land", Traffic's "No Face No Name No Number", and The Door's "Soft Parade".
MrBertstown 3 years ago
WOW
partack1 3 years ago
When creating a note, the hammer of the harpsichord doesn´t beat the string in the way a piano does, but instead snaps it, by means of a metal nail construction. In other words, it is a mechanized multi-snap instrument, a kind of "multi-guitar". Fantastic !
postwarswede 3 years ago
Postwarswede is full of shit. "Multi snap" what a fool
wolfgang7445 3 years ago
Actually it plucks the string like a guitar with a little plectrum....
grantco131313 3 years ago 2
Bravo!
aeturnus71 3 years ago
incantevole
enantiodrom 3 years ago
I didn't know clavichord had also pedals, I thought that was only in piano
Pepinoli 3 years ago
Well, this is a harpsichord, but the pedals function differently. On a harpsichord you often find stops instead of pedals, but I guess it's just down to design
bertiethetoupee4 3 years ago
WOAH!! what kinda harpsichord is that?!
Pianoman1770 3 years ago
a french harpsichord
ukraniandancer55 3 years ago
ooooooooooooooooooooh lol
ive never seen a french harpsichord like that!
Pianoman1770 3 years ago
Wonderful video. I know nothing of the harpsichord but find it the most fascinating of all the classical music instruments. The sound is very distinctive.
Bullerias 3 years ago
Beautiful video. The harpsichord was made by the French manufacturer PLEYEL,and had a metallic frame!
Trabantino 3 years ago
Coool! Thanks for posting this!
tiroirdelmare 3 years ago 2
He plays with his fingers curled up, like Horowitz...
mishagrey 3 years ago
He recieved lessons from Wanda Landowska. That´s the reason for his fingers position. I remembered that he also received the highest note in his studies from Fauré.
LarkinFarkin 3 years ago 2
Quite the opposite, the trademark of Horowitz was playing with very flat fingers. Although he sometimes made use curved fingers.
Hofman1895 3 years ago
I was about to write that myself, but then I realized that what mishagrey was referring to was when Horowitz played Scarlatti (he had his fingers curled up then.)
HaparukuU 3 years ago
I just watched a few Scarlatti sonatas on the 'Horowitz in Moscow' DVD, and he also plays them with flat fingers. But I've seen him play sometimes with very curled fingers in some passages in other pieces, it would be interesting to know what kind of sound he produced with it. I'll have to look into that. Horowitz himself insisted on playing with the whole finger phalanx and not only with the fingertip.
Hofman1895 3 years ago
Truly enchanting.
devnation 3 years ago
I like how he took the time to briefly go over the pedals
stienwayz 3 years ago
GREAT!!!
Aetius1 3 years ago
the assads have an awesome version of this piece as a guitar duet...this is an awesome video!!
sleazebee 3 years ago
Enlightening!
paulostroff99 3 years ago
Nicest and most complex harpsichord I've ever seen.
6 pedals!
Superb playing! A joy!
voidforpurpose 3 years ago 3
Absolutely...he speaks as if this is the way all harpsichords are made, lol. Never seen anything like it. I find his tempo to be a bit upspeed.
musicalidea 3 years ago
Yes, he is more like a piano player. This is like a hibrid non historical harpsichord
dodiezresibemol 3 years ago
This harpsichord is not historical to the time of Rameau but the piece works well on this later model
bertiethetoupee4 3 years ago
fab video! tnx for sharing
hosseinhadisi 4 years ago
that is lush
Alasdairo 4 years ago
that last song is called tambourine. and he handled it
prestomoltoagitato 4 years ago
Why He speaks like Super Mario? XD
I'm joking... He's absolutely wonderful!!
TheMarioBrothers 4 years ago
very true:) haha - he speaks well the language of hapsycord music! he is amazing!
zurnacia 4 years ago
Question:
Can somebody please recommend a really good harpsichord method book or something to improve at playing in the style of 17th/18th harpsichord players. Thanks.
pauledunn 4 years ago
"L'art de Toucher le Clavecin" ;)
lalungenuictdestens 4 years ago
anyone know the name "wolfgang kater" from quebec. A friend of mine I would like to hear thank you .
philsing69 4 years ago
Maestro de Maestro José Iturbi.
Bravo!
Art7962 4 years ago
wanda Landowska, wasn't she an organist too?
zzzxtreme 4 years ago
Although Wanda Landowska recorded Mozart on the Piano, she is best remembered for her performances, teaching, recordings and writings which played a large role in reviving the popularity of the harpsichord. She was the first person to record Bach's Goldberg Variations on the harpsichord (1931).
revival of the Harpsichord.
Renshen1957 4 years ago
this Iturbi must will be a pianist, but he plays harpsichord harpsichorly.
jewish1972 4 years ago
too bad sound quality of video isnt better
zhjiln 4 years ago
Fabulous player and exponent of the Pleyel harpsichord. Does anyone know from where was this excerpt taken? I would love to hear and see more.
wandalewlandowska 4 years ago
The four fragments with Iturbi playing Rameau, Liszt, Chopin and Albeniz come from two short-films he made in the early 40's. You can only find them on 16mm films. I bought them on e-bay and let someone put them on DVD for me. The original quality is much better, but I had to reduce it to get it on you-tube.
There's another fragment of Iturbi playing a harpsichord on "The art of José Iturbi", a VAI-DVD of performances he made for "The Bell Telephone Hour". But he only plays "Tambourin".
Hofman1895 4 years ago
Jose Iturbi was a fine artist. Its too bad he didnt have access to one of the fine historical replicas that are being made today.
fnersch 4 years ago 3
nice jose! can barely hear it but when i do, sounds great
BLESHER 4 years ago
I love harpsichord music.
OmManiPadmeOm 4 years ago
What is Clavier then?
cancontrl 4 years ago
The word "Clavier" is a word of french origin that simply means "keyboard". This word is used to mean "Piano" in German. Hope this helps! ;-)
patukuzunkol 4 years ago
clavier is german for piano?
zzzxtreme 4 years ago
No. Clavier stands for keyboard. But is usualy used to refer to the harpsichord
nunocarmona 4 years ago
Clavier is a generic term for keyboard.
clavichord1685 4 years ago
Hi there,
I work with a harpsichordbuilder (when I'm not studying). This is not a typical harpsichord; its sound is very different - as are the looks of it. Interesting! I wonder who built it!
Kindest regards, Roger from Holland
recitexpressif 4 years ago
It's possible that it is one of the (modern) Pleyel-harpsichords.
Pleyel built them on request of Wanda Landowska, one of the teachers of José Iturbi.
Hofman1895 4 years ago
the harpsichord is such a beautiful instument... ^^- one of my favorites :D
michio 4 years ago
It is nice. I played one once. The keys that are black and white on a piano was the opposite on the harpsichord I was playing and it drove me a little luney. lol But it sounds great for baroque style music.
BankFace 4 years ago
No matter how far reproduction harpsichords have developed since the filming of this, it's somewhat reassuring to see how closely Iturbi's ornamentation follows modern practice.
Very interesting find.
straypixel 4 years ago
What a delight to see real harpsichord playing
here on YouTube! I play it myself (a double
manual like ^ ^ ^) and this is masterful. Bravo,
dear man!
MissyHolland 4 years ago
Your video clip is great and I've rated it as awesome. Please check out mine on some 1920's trading cards of musical instruments, including the harpsichord.
creamofcardstv 4 years ago
do ur fingers have to be like that when palyin harpsichord or is it just a habit
ConnieDaEvilCow 4 years ago
And Conniedaevilcow, playing harpsichord requires softness of touch, holding the fingers close
to the keys because a hand falling from high
draws a harder sound from the string. Never
weight the fingers with the hand, rather the
hand must support the fingers, so that in
running passages, fingers are not lifted quickly,
but glide off the edge. This makes the runs clear.
MissyHolland 4 years ago
He holds his hands like that at the piano also. The opposite of Horowitz.
legamature 3 years ago
he holds them under the keyboard. thats a bad habit that can lead to many hand and playing problems later.
godsloved3 3 years ago
the harpsichord technique it's very different from the piano technique since the harpsichord keyboard is very light and very sensible, so the attack is basically finger-only, to avoid noise and to get a fine sound
tuviejaespro 3 years ago 3
Das Cembalo ist ein wunderbares Instrument!
Kaum ein anderes erzeugt ähnlich unter die Haut gehende Töne.
Kalliopurania 4 years ago
Excellent. I am glad I found this website.
rhostryfan 4 years ago
INCREDIBLE! what crazy fingers
organpipes 4 years ago
Absolutely gorgeous playing!!!
ladynasdaq 5 years ago
Wonderful fluidity. Thanks for posting.
stephenTGV 5 years ago
Precious, lovely! Thanx! :) A shame that doesn't exist any similar with Wanda Landowska.
aleiv 5 years ago
Very cool!
pickymoon 5 years ago
Wow! Iturbi and a harpsichord lesson -- a double whammy! Terrific addition to the Iturbi films here, thanks Hofman1895!
mlktrout 5 years ago