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  • I didn't really care that much for MTB, I just didn't think he was all that great, but the problem I have is this: this horse is a gelding. So he has to race to make money, beings he can't be put to stud. So what happens if he comes up lame, or just gets too damn old to run? Is it to the glue factory for him?????

  • no no not at all. you are correct about his career he will keep racing longer than most other horses that are good like summer bird and musket man, but it doesnt mean the glue factory. he is loved wat too much. maybe chip wolley will make him his stable pony like funny cide was for barclay tag. as far as complete reitrement maybe the kentucky horse park in lexington

  • Even though I'm not a MTB fan, I wish him a long,happy and productive life! I just don't want to see him "put down" because he's a gelding, and he's too old or broke down to race any more. He made his owners a good living after all, and he deserves a good retirement.

  • @gotch09 Hopefully it won't be that way. They could use him maybe as a lead pony, exercise horse with the horses racing, maybe retirement on a farm until he gets old?

  • @21Sarabi Even thought I'm not a "Bo-rail" fan at all, and I wasn't that big of a fan of Mind that Bird, I wish him all the best and a very happy and long retirement.

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  • The word you are looking for is VARIANT. You need the lessons. The TRACK has to be running a certain way for any of this to work. That's why you don't just play a race at track here or there. To MAKE MONEY you have to know what the track is running. There's a few books by ANDREW BEYER,read,u need em. His knowledge and my actually being around a real racetrack really separate us. Stick to what you see on TVG. You aren't worth my time anymore.

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  • Bit of a drive...with a broken leg to boot...WOW!

  • i want Mr Woolly to know that his attitude is apreciated i like the part where he says

    "no matter the weather he's gotta run." the sport needs more people like him and jess jackson and less ones like john sherrif and mike laverone. i if you think your horse is the best prove it. beat the best. if not just shut up. i have grown to like MTB he definatly belongs.

  • Gelding that horse = Worse decision ever! Can you imagine what the return on investment would be if he was able to sire? Oh well, hard to foresee those sort of things.

  • I read that the horse was unmanageable as a yearling. If Mine That Bird had not been gelded, it's likely that he would not have turned out to be the race horse that he is.

  • so if he ran his final 1/4 23.1/5 he must be better then barbaro, fupeg, smarty and manarchos, funny cide and street sence. they ran the derby under 2.02 or 2.01 manarchos ran his in 1.59 4/5. so this are very slow horse according to BE109. if you need lesson in horse racing i don't charge. FYI secretariat ran by his 159 2/5 that means he would have beaten MTB by 10 or more.

  • Secretariat was a freak of nature, beyond Micheal Jordan,physically abnormal. Since you offer lessons you must know what I mean. What do slow fractions do for a horse that likes to come from off the pace? Is it easier for a horse to run away with slow fracs? You said you give free lessons.

  • us racing should use a euro tip . they don't let gelding run in some classics. it was the sloppy track. lets see on saturday. he is going to be way much closer to the pace this time mike is not going to let them get away from him. and that may cause him the race i think he could win belmont at a longer distance thats his best chance.

  • cheap horse wont win again bet on that

  • with what knowledge you say that?

    you gonna see MTB be THE triple crowned and you will be eating your herst out.... you r just an AH

  • aren't steroids illegal in KY now? It would be stupid to use them anyways if you were to win then get checked, then disqualified.

  • you sound just like your mom.

  • So9,you see that turn of foot at Churchill?? You would think a triple crown within reach. Now it is all about Rachel Alexander!! A Filly?? Yea, she won by 20, and she will be 4-5 sat. Still does not mean she will win.

  • NO TRIPLE CROWN WINNER IN 2009

    I'm predicting that MTB will run more like his earlier efforts in the Preakness. Unless he's made from something other than horse flesh and bone he will be feeling the affects of that tremendous output of energy that he expended in the Derby. Watch for a bounce.

    Just one man's opinion

  • man talk about a cinderella story! Trainer seems down to earth and not full of theirselfs like d wayne lucas n baffert. The best choice he made was to mount borel cause no other jockey wouldve pulled that off they way he did

  • its really good to see a horse from our neck of the woods win a big race like he did. i was amazed when i saw him win! mine that bird may not win the triple crown but he won the kentucky derby with a TRUE underdog story!

  • i couldnt agree more.

  • I think he'll go like 9/1 odds..

  • more like 10 to 1 or higher. giacamo all over again. sorry chip

  • these guys know what they are doing!

  • AWESOME RACE!

  • boy o boy he sure didnt know what was in store for the weekend did he? i told my family three weeks ago there are two birdstone horses in the derby, i didnt think they would be a threat but wasnt i wrong?! grindstone, birdstone, and now mine that bird. maybe people will listen next time, theres a reason he was named champion two year old. doesnt matter what countrym invasor proved that. hopefully he has two more winner circles in him!

  • I think you just inspired me to make my own videos. haha but I'm too lazy to! but good job with this video I can't wait to see more of your work

  • come on guys let the owner talk its his time to be in a spotlight...fluke or no fluke the horse and jockey deserves a wonderful compliments be sports besides its a king of sport

  • guitarbutt, Maybe you should switch to Cialis. I think your Viagra has swollen the wrong head. :o)

  • He may be a gelding, but the dam and sire of this horse just got a whole lot more valuable...probably owned by some damn redneck. Go rednecks! Kick the buts of those elitist bigots!

  • HA! No kidding,... this redneck because of it's fn gelding which HAD no value instantly now owns that track!! Gotta love that Poetic Justice.

  • and it's shits like you that give horse racing a bad name. The sport isn't just about breeding. It's about champions, about athletics, it's about excitement. Funny Cide was a gelding from New York and had a fantastic career.

    According to your comment, mvm921, this horse will have more value than you ever will.

  • no value- one hit wonder?? He was sold as a yearling for 9,500 and then was privately resold for 400,000 following his graded stakes and 4th straight win as a 2 year old at Woodbine. Canada's champion 2-year-old male of last year. You sound very educated about racing.. -Love, your favorite redneck-

  • End Horse Slaughter. El Paso, Texas is the largest exporter in the world of horses going to slaughter. For each horse that wins the Kentucky Derby there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of horses (many race horses) that go to slaughter in Juarez. Mexico Some of these horses sold for kill are young thouroughbred race horses. This win could increase breeding, which is the root of the problem. Please help, there is a flip side to this story.

    google alexbrownracing

  • american shit

  • Confusing at times that's for Sure,but I would'nt go as far as too call it Stupid..

  • No doubt you NEED it....

  • guitarbutt. Not that I want to continue to conversate with you, but YOU should be locked up somewhere and never be allowed to GO NEAR the internet. Take your meds today???

  • guitarbutt; With a comment like that, you yourself sound stupid.

  • The track condition, Extreme fast pace,and Near perfect trip have to be factured in MTB's Deby victory when assesing his perfomance..

    I'm not Ready too Dismiss the Derby result as a Fluke,but i've been involed in the game too long to give a horse too much credit for a performance where nearly all circumstances were in their favor...

    His 9,500 pricetag makes for a nice story,and I will be rooting for him in the preakness,but I will be surpised too see him win.

  • so the trainer called this.. he said he's a come from behind horse...he's taken the lead before but faltered...the right jockey _ Calvin _ was able to know when to begin the come from behind..

  • The Derby winner is always checked...

  • "We are going to make our move a little latter", he says.

    Indeed he did.........indeed he did.

  • I like the horse and the cowboy who rode him in.

  • I like a trainer like that. You can see why the horses like him too.

  • Everyone's dealt a good hand eventually.

  • Nah its not a fluke. 3 year olds go through a difficult maturation process and this guy is coming into his own...this horse will turn out to be quite good....he isnt technically even 3 years old yet....

  • I think a horse should no be able to run in any classic if in its life it does not win a GRADE 1 race or even a GRADE2 to enter the derby,and not money earned.

  • Mine That Bird was Canada's Two Year Old Horse of the Year, BECAUSE as a two year old he was spectacular at Woodbine.

    He is well known in Canada. Typically, anything happening in Canada is completely off the radar screen in the USA.

    His Kentucky Derby win is not the fluke. The fluke was his losing races with the new owners.

  • shitty jockys had a lot to do with the other races. So what part was the fluke? The part where he ran a faster time in the mud then other winners did when the track was dry? Or that he had a real jocky? Or?

  • This was a nothing short of an 'in the zone' Borel ride who said of slipping thru that small hole on the rail past the leaders - "Well, he's just a little horse." Was this a fluke? The horse has the pedigree - all those birds - Birdstone, etc, and he certainly had the jockey..

  • Mind That Bird had Calvin Borel, plus pedigree of not only Birdstone, but Smart Strike (sire of Curlin) on dam side. Too bad MTB is gelded - can't earn stud fees!

  • I completly agree!

  • U can get him at 4to1 in Preakness. Fluke

  • are you inbred?

  • I love it.......you have these big name trainers with their suits/ties/egos strolling into Churchill Downs and here comes Woolley on crutches from a motorcycle wreck nonetheless and his horse runs away from everyone

  • Looks like it was all worth it!

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