THE REAL EXODUS - A SMALL PORTION THE SUPPRESSED EVIDENCE.

[buddo1999]

I don't find your quote in Exodus 14:  ????

[metachozoite]

and with this HWO THE HELL do people say god dosent exst

[Mrspeakerofthehouse2]

Coral growth in any sea even at the slowest rate grows at 5mm to 25mm (abt 1/8th to 1 inch) per year. Take a look at these so called "artifacts" & compare the coral growth on them. While the producers would like you to beleive that they represent "artifacts" from "The Crossing" which would be over 2000 yrs ago, you'll see that they are only covered a few inches at best. Do the math & read about coral growth. This video is pure myth created to serve a zionist agenda.

[Ddrum7]

@Mrspeakerofthehouse2 Those are some serious accusations. How many false claims do you plan to make on my channel? Coral can grow, die & remain preserved for many years.

[Mrspeakerofthehouse2]

@Ddrum7 Why have you deleted my follow up comments to which I posted? Are you suppressing an argument because you don't agree with the scientific facts I presented about coral growth or that you have an agenda to serve? Seems the creators of this video are exagerating scientific facts that is what I am arguing. If those items were what he says they were there would be a mound of coral growth and the items would not be recognizable. I know because I am an avid diver and know much about the sea.

[Ddrum7]

@Mrspeakerofthehouse2 I'm not sure what comments you're referring to? The comment u left about corral growth rate is currently directly under the video & above this 1.Though often it is true,corral does not always grow in the manner you claim. Many times it grows in the form of an artifact then dies because there's nothing else to attach itself to.This is a small portion of the evidence. There is about 90% more on this topic.4 more info search Lennart Moller The Exodus Case

[Mrspeakerofthehouse2]

@Ddrum7 I left two other comments on coral growth that have been mysteriously deleted! The science based on what I (we) know about coral growth is accurate sir and that the producers claims are nothing more than a myth. You are wrong, one thing about coral growth is that is will grow on other coral matter. That's how reefs are growth.

It is possible that all of this stuff like a chariot wheel was most likely either dumped there from a boat or it was simply drifting and sank.

[Ddrum7]

@Mrspeakerofthehouse2 From what I understand about coral it will not grow on mud, soot,sand, or certain types of metal but must have something stable to attach itself to initially. I understand after that it often will continue to grow on other coral matter, but it does not necessarily continue to grow beyond what it initially attaches to. As the title says "small portion" There is another 90% reason that this is the biblical crossing site where Egypt's army drowned.

[GSpotter63]

@Mrspeakerofthehouse2 I must admit that a few thousand oddly shaped corrals sitting on the bottom of the Red Sea in and of themselves dose not confirm the story of the crossing but, if you did your homework and closely investigated all of the evidence (AKA the story of the exodus and all of the archeological information) you would find that 90% of everything in the story that could have left a lasting mark on the land, did, and 90% would convict any man of murder.

[metachozoite]

@Mrspeakerofthehouse2 no it is not....being stubborn and doughting god...is work of the fallen angles to send as many as they can to hell with them...it was made for saatan not man....im an engineering student about finished with his degree...im no idiot....and i can see that it is not that...most of you will beliee in god after the rapture....but as for now....im telling you its not fake...

[metachozoite]

@Mrspeakerofthehouse2 also do some research if you dought that mu8ch...things are unfolding as the bible says they will inthe last days....humanitys time has run out

[bigmikey1979]

@Mrspeakerofthehouse2  epic yawn troll sockpuppet

[Mrspeakerofthehouse2]

A lie without understanding how coral growth occurs. Folks you don't have to doubt that these items in the video are what they say they are but what you have to be aware of is that they were intentionally put there make it seem as though they are "artifacts". What they expect you to be ignorant of is the rate of coral growth even at the slowest rate cannot account for the small amount of growth on the items. These items were dumped there within the last hundred years or so not from thousands.

[pirell]

i dont understand why they just took photographs and didnt take them away to confirm what exactly they were

[Ddrum7]

@pirell They did, but as the title says this is just a small portion of the evidence. Search "Wyatt Archaeological Research" for more info. God bless ;)

[rambo33176]

@pirell the Egyptians and the Saudis do not allow artifacts to be removed from this area

[hummer18able]

The Bible is fact!!! Those who do not believe have no relationship with Jesus. Until you know Jesus and he dwells in you you cannot understand. Salvation is simple repent and asked forgiveness of your sins and believe that Jesus is the son of God and that He died for yours sins and you will see what I mean!!!!!

[BenDeNoon]

Author Steven DeNoon in his last book sheds new insight as to why Moses called the Red Sea a Sea of Reeds. check it out you won't regret it. "Israel;Are They Still God's People" or in his upcoming book "Yam Suph" either of which can be googled

[Ddrum7]

I appreciate you calling me friend. It shows u have a good attitude. The O.T. was written by certain prophets throughout the history of Israel. It makes no difference to me if "scholars" disagree with me, but if u have a personally found "1000s of mistakes in the bible" or even 1 then I'd appreciate u pointing it/them out to me 1 at a time. Israel = something like "who prevails with God" from Gen. 32:28.

[bigbrother1994]

so lets see, the coral has had over 3500 yrs to build up on the reckage. well i am sorry , even if the coral reef grows at 5mm per year, u just work it out, it would be about 1500 cm thick, there is no way that those objects are the same thing. as these guys are trying to say. just a note in the eygeptian historical documentation. why is there no mention of their leader and the army going to war/conflict and never comming back.

[destroytheNWO2d]

@bigbrother1994 Coral can grow 4 a brief period of time & then die & be preseved for many years. There is Egyptian historical documentation of the biblical event but it has been suppressed. American history has been radicaly revised in only a few hundred years so it's no surprise that over the 1,000's of years since then, what we learn of Egypt today is mostly fabricated. Check it out on the link in the description.

[bigbrother1994]

@destroytheNWO2d thats right,it grows then it dies, where upon it new layers form,and after over 3500 yrs(by your estimates,even though historically its out by 600yrs) there should alot more corral.than is shown in this clip.so do tell me is everything correct in the bible?because if there is i have questions for u.?

however , do i say that i dont believe in GOD? YES I DO.there is no doubt in my mind, but i rather not be controlled by afew religious leaders who lie to keep their position&wealth

[destroytheNWO2d]

@bigbrother1994 Corral doesn't necessarily grow new layers after it dies.

& yes I do believe the bible is correct & inspired by God. So i'd be happy to answer any questions U have concerning it. "but i rather not be controlled by a few religious leaders who lie to keep their position&wealth" I agree with u 100%

[bigbrother1994]

@destroytheNWO2d "who lie to keep their position&wealth" and that goes to all the religions.there is no exclusitivity to greed, malice and lies.

so did jesus himself say that he was the son of GOD? and confirmed the trinity? and can u explain why the god in the new testment, is a god of love and forgiveness, where as the god from the old testmnt, is of wrath,anger,jelouse god?and why non of the prophets, or say jesus, out lawed slavery?

[destroytheNWO2d]

@bigbrother1994 Q.#1yes John 5:8-47 #2yes he is the same God but was/is relieving different aspects of his character, his wrath against our sin & also his grace, love & forgiveness through his son. Without knowing his just wrath first we will not appreciate what Jesus did. The bible condemns slavery. The whole story of the exodus is about God freeing his people from slavery. But in the nation of Israel back then nojail punishment 4theft was to become a slave till u pay back 7 times what u stole

[bigbrother1994]

@destroytheNWO2d it seems that u are a misdirected sole.do u even look@what u have written?"god had to show his wrath,so that we understand his love"?so u beat up your child,so that he will know when u show mercy?look&moses laws 10commandments&the following laws,SLAVERY WAS NOT OUTLAWED?just a time limit on jew slaves.do tell me does god refers to himself,as "we" or "I"?or has he a personality disorder?perhaps u forget the 1000s of mistakes in the bible?check "Bart Ehrman Top Bible Scholar"

[destroytheNWO2d]

@bigbrother1994 I only have limited space to respond to u so im leaving quick answers. God is not a man & a parents discipline is different then his wrath against our rebellious sin & u misquoted me about that. God rejects the proud, but gives grace to the humble so if your serious about getting to know him then have a humble attitude & I'll be happy to help. If u just want to scoff & mock then I can't help u. Ask 1 question at a time if u r serious otherwise we're wasting each-others time

[bigbrother1994]

@destroytheNWO2d now u still have not said, how does god refer to himself? as "I" or "us" ?

[destroytheNWO2d]

@bigbrother1994 The direct answer is: both. I think what u r driving at is the question of the trinity. when I think within myself at times I say "let's see here" yet I am 1 person made of body,soul & Spirit. So also Is God in 3 parts as were originally created in his image. But we have become spiritually dead through sin & need to be made alive again through Christ. There is only one God & creator & that is how he has reviled himself in his word, the bible.

[bigbrother1994]

@destroytheNWO2d u try & fit things without any constant form of reasoning.GOD(so u say)created man in OUR image?not"MY".then he has to put man to sleep to take his rib out.to make female clone? i seem to find that hard.as GOD created galaxies,with a simple thought.but he has to put man to sleep,to take his rib out for a clonning OP.?the whole thing is a mess,& u dont even want to see the light.the truth is there,but all mixed up.but your blind faith cant see it.so go&make up stories to fit.

[bigbrother1994]

@destroytheNWO2d my oh my, u are too far gone my friend. 1st of all genesis, shortend but alas based on the sumerian text,however certain parts seem to be not apprpriate for the jews/christians.but lets take it as it stands.there is no reason why god would refer to himself as"us"&"I" u seem to compare urself to the creator of the universe.i am sure u might not be consistent.but he would have no difficulty with such.this example just shows exactly where ur kind stand.

[bigbrother1994]

@bigbrother1994 so do accept that gensis is based on the summerian text? as there is no point to even make the point of the 1000s of mistakes in the bible. but lets just keep to the old testement.

[Ddrum7]

@bigbrother1994 Question #1- No. Not sure what you mean by the rest of what you said, but the Bible has no mistakes, only paradoxes.

[bigbrother1994]

@Ddrum7 what?? so if u are telling me that u believe in some thing. then u better know where it comes from.. my friend.. so where is the old testement comes from? and by the way, if u want to see where the mistakes are.. all u got to do, is type in relevant search words, and there is 100s, ney 1000s of scholars in most universities across the world that would disagree with you. there are 1000s of mistakes. so do tell me, ISREAL= 1 who battles GOD ?/

[winterheartz012]

@bigbrother1994 wow.. can you post one mistake?? I'd appreciate you reply to my comment.. if not, you're just like anybody else plus i'd say you're just a troll. long have i been waiting for someone to site at least one mistake from the Bible...

[bigbrother1994]

@winterheartz012 also why dont u copy & paste this and see which1s u agree with,,and which u dont, "101 CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE " however shall i say that since the writers of old testment, were heavily into kabalah, i am wondering if some of text had been changed because of thier inner meaning, as u might know , old testment is a book within a book,that most christians have not a clue about. thanx & peace.

[winterheartz012]

@bigbrother1994 I tried reading it once.. well He clearly mentioned He is a God in three persons. You're telling crap all over when you haven't read it at all. trust me, it's too much for you to understand...

[bigbrother1994]

@12"He clearly mentioned He is a God in3persons"who mentions it?was"he" the writer?who wrote Genesis?where from?

who is this?born on Dec25th.spiritual light contending with spiritual darkness&through his labors the kingdom of darkness shall be lit with heaven's light;impure are to be purified&evil made good,through his mediation.his name is Love;a great traveling teacher.He had12companions;called"the good shepherd"the way,the truth&light,redeemer,savior,Me­ssiah"identified with,the lion&lamb etc

[MrUrosSrb]

@bigbrother1994 OK.First of all.Jesus probably wasnt born on 25th december.Those stories came about a century after his birth.Most of these claims u posted are false.Relevant Atheists such as Dawkins and Hitchens even dont use that Zeitgeist argument because even they admit it is laughable.

[bigbrother1994]

@winterheartz012 then u have:purified themselves by baptism;held Sunday sacred,celebrated the birth of the Sun on the 25th of December;regarded asceticism as meritorious&counted among their principal virtues abstinence&continence,renuncia­tion&self-control;possessed the ideas of Mediation,Atonement,&a Savior,who is human&yet divine,&not only the idea, but a doctrine of the future life;i can go on,but are these the christianity? NO? thats right u guessed correct they are mithra&zorastinsm.600BC

[bigbrother1994]

@winterheartz012 then u look at Budism and see that perhaps they had 1 better, as they say that this arrival of a "saviour" will take place 9 times. so jesus was just 1 aspect of this, mithra another1, so there u go, in spirit bible is probably correct, but it is not the only way.

[bigbrother1994]

@destroytheNWO2d the time the bible says that moses left Eygept,with probably over 1Mil.jews,1)no record of such mass movement 2)no record of the army getting wiped out/never returned3)Eygept controled the Canine area,with a series of militry bases in that area.4)no record of the pheraoh getting drowned on a hunt of any race.and that is out of 10000 of tablets that kept every event recorded.so we only have the jews word for it. right?it seems that the event is out by 600yrs.u knew that right?

[destroytheNWO2d]

@bigbrother1994 You are making arrogant claims. You should say "I'm not aware of any record of " concerning the things u mention. But I am aware of the evidence that you are not concerning the Exodus & a very small portion of that evidence is here while there is more on the link in the description of this video & yet more elsewhere but if you refuse to look at it & read it than I'm sorry but can not help you.

[bigbrother1994]

@destroytheNWO2d i watched the clips,now,u see what u are doing is u look for infromation to confrm a belief.rather than looking for data&then making ur mind up.what u are doing is baised.now,lets see,i do believe that exdous of some sort has taken place.but i dont think that it was in the magnitude that the jews want us to believe.the jews say "god parted the sea for us",so our god is more powerful than urs,then the christians had to say,christ is the son&the god all in 1,so u best follow us.

[Ddrum7]

Scoffers shoud note that this is just a u-tube video. I'm continually getting comments such as: "This is all u got? This is your best evidence?". I never said this is the best evidence nor did I say it's "all" the evidence. On the contrary if people would simply read the title they would see that this is merley a "SMALL PORTION" of actual empirical data supporting the biblical record. If you want more evidence simpley follow the links! ;) God bless yall!

[mycatistigger]

@Ddrum7 Okay, so what is your best evidence then?

[Ddrum7]

@mycatistigger Before i answer your question i'd like to know if your open to the idea that the bible could be true or do u just want to argue &/or scoff?

[mycatistigger]

@Ddrum7 I'm open to anything you have to offer. If you provide clear, verfiab;e evidence I will change my mind and beie ethe same way you do. I would be a fool not to. If however you provide "I feel all warm inside when I say jesus na danyway, I have faith so I don't need evidence" obviously I won't change my mind. Bieng open minded doesn't mean changing your mind, it means looking at evidence and then deciding.

[Ddrum7]

@mycatistigger I appreciate your openmindedness. If u go to the "squidoo" site it has much more evidence suporting the biblical record. also click the blue link on this vid for a brief overview correcting some misconceptions concerning certain bible events/places. The links at the end have more bible evidence as well. it's impossible to explain all the evidence here. This video is just 1 piece, but perhaps some day i'll put together a full documentary showing how all the evidence fits together.

[mycatistigger]

I guess not.

[mcsciennes]

2. It may be that SOMETHING happened around then. The Thera eruption that destroyed the Minoans is dated to exactly the same time...around 1500 BC. That would explain the pillar of fire/smoke. It would also explain the tsunami effect of the sea receding then returning (but only on the delta, not the Red Sea). If Moses did exist, it's most likely he was the head of a small band of refugees that narrowly escaped being caught by the waters, not so their pursuers...probably a local military unit.

[mcsciennes]

1. There's no evidence at all for Moses' existence, or the exodus. Plus there are no 'missing' pharaohs at the bottom of the sea. All pharaohs for half a century either side of the most likely date are all present and accounted for...as actual mummies, fully documented. All Egyptologists agree on this.

As has been said, the RED Sea is a mistranslation; it was the REED Sea on the Nile delta.

Despite no evidence, it might be true that Moses existed and led an exodus...just not on the scale stated.

[Ddrum7]

@mcsciennes " There's no evidence at all for Moses' existence, or the exodus"?

Are you omnisciant? How could anyone possibly know such a thing? What a thinking person should say is: I've not yet come across any evidence for Moses existance. Well keep researching & I'm sure you'll find some because there's plenty out there. The problem is that any info suporting the bible is suppressed by "mainstream professors". So you'll have to look real hard.

May God bless U on your quest.

[mcsciennes]

@Ddrum7 There's a 500 character limit; one has to be brief. I later said that despite the absence of evidence, Moses might well have existed...so I wasn't being 'omniscient' as you so condescendingly put it

Ah! the 'cabal of scientists' argument...also favoured by creationists. It's kind of hard to argue that one other than the fact that it's patently absurd, by virtue of the fact that anyone breaking ranks and publishing the 'truth' would likely get a Nobel prize or equivalent.

No quest BTW.

[Ddrum7]

@mcsciennes I understand. I wasn't addressing your latter statement but your first.& it is correct to say that "no one could possibly know such a thing unless he was omnisciant." because new discoveries are made every day. & the evidence that he does exist u refuse to belive & i understand that. i just wanted to point out the "in-correctness" of your statement because I had become frustrated with your comments & I let my emotion get the best of me. so I apologize 4 insulting you.

[yeshuahfullofit]

Even if these items do turn out to be Egyptian chariot wheels of the correct era, all they prove is that some wheels fell off a ship during a storm, or went down with a ship. Or they were thrown over. We don't KNOW what they are. With all of the diving and filming no one thought to bring one up for further study? Did they break one open and find out that it was corral all the way through? Inquiring minds...

[Ddrum7]

@yeshuahfullofit READ THE TITLE!!! THIS IS A "SMALL PORTION" OF A HUGE AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE SUPPORTING THE BIBLICAL RECORD. OF COURSE MANY ARTIFACTS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP 4 EXAMINATION, INCLUDING HUMAN & HORSE BONES! TO SEE SOME OF THEM WATCH "Red Sea Crossing - Jonathan Gray (5 of 6)".

[brianbgood]

Formations in the Caribbean sac

[Ddrum7]

@brianbgood

What do you mean by saying "Caribbean sac"?

if u meant "Caribbean sea" that's by Cuba. this photography was taken precisely

where the bible says the israelites crossed the "Yam sup" or "Red sea" from Nuweiba Egypt to Saudi-Arabia.

[Ddrum7]

@Ddrum7 @brianbgood "All you have here are oddly shaped coral formations." In the shapes of chariots & wheels. At the site king solomon comemorated with pillars that were found on both the Egyptian & Arabian sides of the red sea with the writing still inscribed. & the rock that split down the middle when Moses struck it & erosion evidence of the river that gushed out of it in the desert. the evidenc goes on & on &on...

[yeshuahfullofit]

@Ddrum7 yom suph means sea of reeds, not Red Sea. Your bible even tells you so at the bottom of the page. Fail.

[Ddrum7]

@yeshuahfullofit CORRECT. BUT IN ENGLISH THAT BODY OF WATER IS NOW COMMONLY KNOWN AS "THE RED SEA".

[yeshuahfullofit]

@Ddrum7 No. It's not. It refers to the marshy area in the delta.

[brianbgood]

Sorry// Why leave any room for doubt? This so called evidence is at very manageable depth. All you have here are oddly shaped coral formations. there are oddly shaped formations I

[brianbgood]

Why didn't they get a sample? This so ca

[Ddrum7]

@brianbgood

They did. This is a "small portion" of the evidence. To put the whole story together follow the links on this video.

[Ddrum7]

@lizazoon THIS VIDEO IS HERE 4 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEE THIS EVIDENCE. IF ANYONE DOESN'T BELIEVE IT'S AUTHENTIC, THEY'RE FREE TO GO WATCH SOME OTHER VIDEO. THERE'S NO POINT IN ATTEMPTING TO CONVINCE ME THAT THE CLEAR ENIDENCE PRESENTED IN THESE VIDEOS DOESN'T EXIST BECAUSE SOME IGNORANT RABBI, "ARCHEOLOGIST", OR "UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR" SAYS SO.

[lizazoon]

It quotes Professor Ze'ev Herzog The many Egyptian documents known to us do not make any reference to the sojourn of the Children of Israel in Egypt or the Events of the Exodus. Generations of scholars tried to locate Mt. Sinai.and the stations of the tribes of Israel in the desert.

Despite all this diligent research not one site was identified that could correspond to the Biblical picture. Professor Ze'ev Herzog of Tel Aviv University.

[MichaelJonahRood]

@lizazoon Look in the wrong place long enough and you will be just like the notable professor - with his head up his own tuchus.

[lizazoon]

They must really be desperate, to show this nonsense.

[lizazoon]

I have expert statements, rabbi, and archaeologist, that`s enough + the fact that no graves, bones or tinckets have been found.

[MichaelJonahRood]

@lizazoon These "expert" morons are still looking at Constantine's mommies mount sinai. Look in the wrong place and you miss the Altar to the golden calf, the split rock found at Rephadim, the graveyard at the Midian mount Sinai, the evidence of millions camping at "Jabel el Lawz" for over a year, and hundreds of thousands of petroglyphs that decorate dozens of the Israelite camping sites - such as Har Karkum on the Egyptian border. The Hebrew Scriptures are accurate - not those who dont read.

[Ddrum7]

to:lizazoon - IF U WANT TO SEE MORE EVIDENCE OF GRAVES, PETROGLIPHS & ARTIFACTS JUST CLICK THE LINK AT THE END OF THIS VIDEO THAT SAYS...

"CLICK HERE 4 MORE AMAZING EXODUS EVIDEVCE" & WATCH pt.a & b.

[lizazoon]

The exodus is total nonsense. 500.000 israelites wandered the desert for 40 years. The average lifespan was no more than 45 years. 400.000 israelites must have dies on that trip. Where are the graves ? Where are the bones ? The dry desert sand preserves everything. NOTHING WAS EVER FOUND

[garethac81]

@lizazoon

You're absolutely right...but tiny details like 500,000 Israelites vanishing into thin air without a trace of archaelogical evidence left behind aren't going to stop the moronic faithful from seeing a wheel at the bottom of an ocean as "indisputable proof of the Exodus".

After centuries of exhaustive searching and STILL no evidence of any mass slave migration, these poor fools will cling to whatever straw they can.

[destroytheNWO2d]

This video footage leaves no dout that the biblical record is true & correct! Indisputable evidence!!! thanks

[lizazoon]

Note that Moller does not say he discovered this gilded wheel, nor that he saw it, photographed it, nor touched it. There is no undersea footage of the gilded? wheel in the film but merely a digital reconstruction of a photograph taken by Wyatt in the 1970s. But note that although almost no coral is shown touching this bright shiny wheel, based on Wyatt's photo, still there are plenty of thick corals growing on one another

[lizazoon]

The exodus is childish NONSENSE.

[lizazoon]

The Egyptologist Wilhelm Spielberg tells us that "what the Bible reports about the plight of Israel in Egypt isn't any more of a historical fact than the accounts of Egyptian history related by Herodotus.. anyway, it is clear that the research concerning the Pharaoh under whose rule Israel moved into Egypt and left it represents nothing but the juggling of names and dates void of all meaning".

[lizazoon]

The exodus is pure nonsense.

[Ddrum7]

"Not a single trincket of EVIDENCE"???

are u sure about that? i've seen the evidence. i'm uploading more right now. many petrogliphs & artifacts have been found. but the evidence is suppressed by the unrightous. & the bible never said they walked from "Cairo to Tel-Aviv" you should read the bible & do some research before u make claims against it.

[lizazoon]

@Ddrum7 : All the evidence they have is ONE photograph from 1970 supposedly showing a wheel at the bottom of the Red Sea. BAS states in Januari 2010, that there is no evidence for the exodus . Period.

[destroytheNWO2d]

@lizazoon 

Looks like a lot more than 1 photo from 1970 to me.

[lizazoon]

@destroytheNWO2d The fantastic number of people involved plus the 40 years in the desert should be proof enough that the story has an underlying fictional meaning. I would think after one year lost in the desert, someone would be wise enough to pick one direction and follow it until they were out. This isn't rocket science

[MichaelJonahRood]

@lizazoon LOST in the desert??? You start with a statement that illustrates your ignorance and then talk about rocket science... You must be reading the Reader's Digest of the Hebrew Scriptures

[MichaelJonahRood]

@lizazoon There is no evidence of intelligent life at BAS. Dr. Lennart Moeller of Karolinska Institute in Stockholm has volumes of photographic material, underwater camera footage, and years of experience working on this previous find. You have to be veeeerrryyyy slow to not put your hands on more than one old picture. You must want to believe in Santa Claus very badly. Go ahead - the tooth fairy is waiting for you...

[lizazoon]

Not a single trincket of this 40 year wandering in the Negev has been found, and the desert, the dry sand is excellent for preserving stuff. Besides ,even today walking from Cairo to Tel-Aviv through the desert is not possbile without modern equipment.

[lizazoon]

The Exodus is fantasy. It never happened. There is no trace of the Israelites being enslaved in Egypt. Moses is a fictional charakter.

[malignantpoodle]

All this proves is that chariots were in the area, not that God buried the Egyptians there.

You do realize the red sea is extremely shallow and there has been a ridiculous amount of global warming since then right? You do realize that there are airplanes in the pacific. Did God bury those there too?

Suppressed evidence? It's on Discovery channel for crying out loud lol

[AoiKageNoChikara]

It-s a sea that ends with a desert why the hell would somebody go there, if it-s not by chasing someone

Stupid excuses to deny God....even when there-s evidence...this is sad...

[malignantpoodle]

So your argument for a God is that a desert ending in an ocean is not a place people would be at?

LOL

[AoiKageNoChikara]

Well, Also The scripture in Ramses II Says he could stand up to everyone of his enemies except the God of the hebrews, and they checked the mummy and he died by Drowning, coincidence? I don't think so, even if the Scripture was fake, the Drowning symtons or wharever you call it are true, they even showed in in Nat Geo

[malignantpoodle]

If your only source of information is the bible, then anything else will seem to compliment it.

There's a whole big world out there. Try looking at it sometime.

[AoiKageNoChikara]

Hello!? Nat geo discovered Ramses's Mummy and made the analysis, all is conected to the bible, They even went to MT. Sinai and there's an strange force that made even the camera guy felt pounded, same with The Garden of Getsemani, the world's at chaos, the weather gets worse, everything what's happening is giving the reason to the bible, there's even this meteor that's gonna kill the 3th part of every living thing in the earth just like the apocalipses, sturbon people, you'll cry in hell

[malignantpoodle]

I'll cry in hell?

LOL

I'd like to come back with some smart saying that makes you realize how you wasted your only life chasing dreams and fairy tales. But in all honesty, I can't. This is because when you are dead you will know nothing. You won't realize that you wasted your life. As such, it's wrong for me to say that you'll know better; because you never will.

[AoiKageNoChikara]

Heh let's see who cries and who laughs at the end, I know God exists, because I've seen his wonders, I know many people who have heard his voice, and they don't know each other but say to me the same thing about his voice, it would be crazyness if only one says that, but more than 3 people proved to me the same thing, and even the science that rejected God are now finding everything to be true, I've told you about it, but You even say a thing about it and I won't keep throwing jewels to the pigs

[malignantpoodle]

Problem is, so many people are looking at the same thing and you know what? They're not seeing what you're seeing.

We wont see who cries in the end, because the end is the end, and that's it. There is no heaven or hell. You can waste your only life, but the good thing for you is that when you're gone, you won't know you wasted it. Christianity is the biggest suck out of all time; you get to waste the only life you'll ever have, and never pay for it.

[AoiKageNoChikara]

First talked you about earthly things, and you didn't believe, HOW WOULD YOU BELIEVE THEN IF I TALKED YOU ABOUT HEVEANLY THINGS

You only want me to say your right, right?, and youre a hipocrite, you insult my way of living when youre in a worst situation than me, If you think there's not after life, You'll be surprised, I won'r answer to you anymore because you don't even read what I'm writing, bye Have a good life You blood is not on me I said enough.

[malignantpoodle]

I spent 20 years as a Christian and I tell you this firsthand; I'm not in a worse situation.

And you have no idea about Earthly things. You know why? Because you know nothing about them. Your religion tells you what Earthly things are, and your religion is wrong.

My blood is not on you? Are you nutty or something? So here's my prayer;

God, please protect me from your followers.

[AoiKageNoChikara]

Say what you want, I Don't care, I'm not dragging you to my beliefs either,

20 years as a Christian?, Then youre church must haven been spiritually dead. No Miracles, No Celestial Tongues, not Proohecy....DEATH

bye dude, enjoy the rest of your life. like you want, I don't care. Just If you don't believe don't come to a "religious" real evidence vid if youre not gonna even believe it

[malignantpoodle]

I'm so glad that someone that lived 17 years can tell me about my church 20 years ago.

You already said you weren't going to respond. Anything else you want to lie about?

But what makes you think I was with the same church the whole time?

Get a life. Get an education. LIVE.

[Chuichupachichi]

@malignantpoodle

{you have no idea about Earthly things. You know why? Because you know nothing about them}

An intelligent person would never conclude that you are correct in the things that you say. Simply because the things you say, mean nothing. You explain your assertions with the same assertion

"have no idea" is equivalent to "know nothing". Thus, you merely said - "you have no idea about earthly things because you have no idea about them"

[mycatistigger]

@Chuichupachichi "An intelligent person would never conclude that you are correct" I have two degrees and am about to start a PHD. I think he's correct. I think you're very stupid for assuming otherwise.

[Chuichupachichi]

@mycatistigger

Oh WOW, I can't believe that I had missed this reply from 4 months ago. Oh well, better late than never. I must have been busy with my favorite hobby of exposing the idiocy within predetermining, humanistic PhD/Professors. You should see the way in which I mentally manhandle those academic boys. If they get all snotty & rude about it, then, after refuting them with detailed, supportive explanations to my assertions (unlike your cretinous mere assertions) I make them cry by

[Chuichupachichi]

revealing to them that I dropped out of high school after the 10th grade. But since you already proved to be a major intellectual loser, right off the bat, is why I had mercy on you & told you up front. That way you might not cry later if you should decide to continue to dig yourself into a deeper, prideful fool's hole. I must apologize for the 4 month delay, since that might have caused you to believe that your argument's substitute of delusional grandeur displayed in the form of "two degrees &

[Chuichupachichi]

a PhD", were actually scary & caused me to run away. However, such is not the case... I was simply busy pumping tons of valuable, critical thinking into the cavernously configured, cretinous, cranial cavities of other multiple degree dunces. As you can see, there's no reason to be scared as I make it clear that I understand that whenever a person calls another "stupid" and then assumes that he validates it with a reference to obviously meaningless papers in picture frames, instead of actually

[Chuichupachichi]

presenting a legitimate argument, that in itself demonstrates his stupid hypocrisy in having called another, "stupid". Considering your morpholobotomized mental mangling, I should explain before you incorrectly conclude that I'm not implying that all people with high degrees are mentally morphed mutards. But rather, only the Humanist, Naturalistic, Atheist, Materialist, Leftist retards. Basically, that accounts for most of academia. The remaining people with PhD's are those whom when they speak,

[Chuichupachichi]

I keep my mouth shut & listen, listen, listen. Also, this doesn't mean that if for example, a Humanist PhD Mechanical Engineer wishes to debate the subject of Mechanical Engineering, that I will be stupid enough to debate him. What I mean is that Humanists are usually stupid enough to most often open their mouths regarding philosophical, world view, ideological matters. But often times, those things are pertinent to, or have implications upon particular fields. Thats when I will reveal Dawkins'

[Chuichupachichi]

delusions or dismantle a PhD Monist's arguments. I've made Carly Sag'n my bitch in addressing his claims but he doesn't deserve much respect after hi-jacking the Christian Copernicus. Intellectually honest people, even if incorrect, such as Monist John Searle, I respect & its still very interesting listening to him.

The commenter wrote - "you have no idea about X". Then asked - "do you know why"? Then provided the answer - "because you know nothing about X".

Your degrees sided with that???

[Chuichupachichi]

Trust me, smoking crack would be less detrimental to your intelligence than is Humanism & all of its derivatives. I have yet to come across a Humanist that hasn't built his entire collection of conclusions, based on a foundational predetermination dictated by what they personally desire the truth to be. That "predetermination" is the dummy maker & overrides even a PhD

[Chuichupachichi]

With such malfunctioning thought processes, one can conclude only that the same malfunctioning was employed in your having determined what you stated as, "your religion is wrong"

Your malfunctions don't end there. Consider -

{My blood is not on you? Are you nutty or something?}

What reason is there for that it should be? Also, that statement implies that there is a God. Since "AoiKageNoChikara" said "Your blood is not on me" meaning God will not hold him accountable. But you say he will indeed

[Chuichupachichi]

He must exist in order to do it

Can you see how your mind is broken? How it malfunctions in executing thought processes? That is common amongst people who hate their Maker. Also... its foretold that the minds of the haters will malfunction, causing them to speak as fools. When we witness those like you, it's more evidence of that the word is true. You are evidence!

That's not even considering this cognitive malfunction - "God, please protect me from your followers"

[Chuichupachichi]

Correct logic would have it that even if God were malevolent, it would be due to his malevolence that he wouldn't protect you from the supposed harm. Thus, only the illogical mind would ask him for protection

There's no escaping the fact of your malfunctioning because since God is benevolent is precisely the reason why you don't need protection from his followers. For logic would have it that anyone being malevolent is obviously not following the benevolent God

[malignantpoodle]

You go on and on and on about how I'm wrong, my mind is "broken", etc, and yet never give any specifics, references, or supporting evidence for what you're talking about.

It just amazes me how you people can type for four posts and say nothing to support their argument.

[Chuichupachichi]

WOW! You're worse than I thought. Each one of your manglings I described how & why they were incorrect and you still can't see that? You've got a serious problem

[lizazoon]

Chuichupachichi Did the teacher wipe your snot nose today ?

[malignantpoodle]

That's a relatively easy position for anyone to make; someone that sees things differently than they do is incorrect... right.

You never explained why or how I'm wrong, just went on and on about me being wrong, like if you feel strongly enough about my being wrong that that somehow makes your case for you?

[lizazoon]

Chuichupachichi; Man you are NUTS. That`s the only comment that makes sense in answer to your comments.

[Chuichupachichi]

@lizazoon

It is difficult to determine whether its insanity or simply stupidity that causes a human Ape to believe that they have actually presented a legitimate argument & even worse yet, to believe that their mere assertion has even the potential to be correct. Yes indeed, its extremely common for your kind to believe that they are engaging in debate & that they are convincingly correct. Although the fact is that you guys don't even know how to correctly engage in debate. If you can learn to

[Chuichupachichi]

first do that correctly, then there can exist the potential for you to be correct. However, as it stands now, the claims made by your statements can't even be considered, due to your failure to meet a necessary prerequisite. Do research & understand the requirements for proper debate & its difference from expressing mere opinions. Yours may be a combination of insanity & stupid

[mycatistigger]

@Chuichupachichi My, what an arrogant person. Eight posts spent entirely on declaring how intelligent you are. I stand in awe of such a degree of hubris. Anyhow... was there a single piece of evidence, just one, to show that creationism is anythign less than made up nonsense?

[brianbgood]

@AoiKageNoChikara Like what? What are scientists finding that prove 'Everything'?

This should be good

[AoiKageNoChikara]

@brianbgood Ehem, Did this discovery tell you anything?, mmm, well If not I can't explain anything to you, I've heard many scientist are accepting that the bible is true now, But If you believe, there's nothing to be explain, if you don't believe, nothing can't possibly be explained, besides I've left My fighting with Atheists, That's not the way God wants me to proclaim his word, The word never comes back and It fights for itself like a Lion, It doesn't need my protection. that's all I'll say

[brianbgood]

@AoiKageNoChikara Why wouldn't god write his word himself instead of entrusting fallable & carnal men to do it. Why does god care about what I believe? Don't you think his attention would be better served assuaging the suffering of millions of "his children" starving in Darfur. Do you have ANY idea how much harm and unbridled suffering christianity has caused humanity. Read about the plight of the Arawak Indians and how the prosthelytizing of Christianity destroyed their civiliazation.

[AoiKageNoChikara]

@brianbgood God Bless you

[Ddrum7]

@AoiKageNoChikara Thanks U 2

[mycatistigger]

Or the Pagan Saxons, Or the Inca. Or the Aztec. Or the Native Americans. Or the Cathars. etc etc.

[AoiKageNoChikara]

@mycatistigger ummm....what? are you replying to me, or to brianbgood? either way, I believe this was already over, please don't start a riot.

[mycatistigger]

@AoiKageNoChikara I was agreeing with brian that christianity has been responsible for numerous atrocities. He mentioned the arawak who were slaughtered by christains, I mentioned the Saxons who were slaughtered by christains, the Inca who were slaughtered by christians, the Aztec who were slaughtered by christians etc etc. I had no idea the conversation was over. It did not give that impression

[AoiKageNoChikara]

@mycatistigger I'm Astounded, so you think all evil on earth is because of christianity? you think we are the source of evil on earth? I can't believe people is so hardened, and if you got a teacher, and he teaches you well, would it be his fault if you put his teachings to bad use?, would it be righteous to blame all students for the cause of that one? I believe not, how can you blame all of us christians For the acts of criminals using the name of the Lord?

[AoiKageNoChikara]

@mycatistigger

I won't start a debate, But I have to make this clear... there are many "Christian" "Religions" there, Christian is a nickname created by romans to identify believers it means to believe in Christ, but there are many beliefs, like the mary worshippers, and those who Worship The trinity, Who are the first christians to be born, Those who worship mary are too called christians though it's Catholic Christian in a complete form

[AoiKageNoChikara]

@mycatistigger , those are the ones you must be talking about, for We (I will refer to myself just as Christian) Christians were Slaughtered too, first by jews and romans when the First Church was created, then I've reasearch there was a Catholic queen in I think it was Eangland, who search for every non Catholic Christian, and killed them mercilessly, that's all I wanted to say, just to make clear this, Even if you do answer, I see it's not worth to keep this, God bless you.

[mycatistigger]

@AoiKageNoChikara Are you suggesting that the first born of every Egyptian family was kileld ont he same day, including dogs, cattle etc, the heir to the Egyptian throone and then a few days later, the pharoah himself was kileld along with his entire army and there are no records of it, anywhere? That is ridiculous. They were quite fastidious int heir histoircal record keeping the Egyptians were.

A cameraman had a funny feeling? That is your evidence? That's te best you can do?

[Ddrum7]

@mycatistigger"A cameraman had a funny feeling?That is your evidence? That's te best you can do?" What do u expect? For being under salt water for 3500years that's pretty good!"there are no records of it, anywhere?"There is a record of it in the bible. The Egyptian evidence is suppressed by scoffers like u.They hide evidence cause they don't want it to be revieled. They hate the God of Israel who destroyed them.But this is just a"small portion"(read title) there is much more. Follow the links!

[LoricaLady]

Thanks for posting this. Nice clear pictures of the evidence.

[lizazoon]

@LoricaLady The fantastic number of people involved plus the 40 years in the desert should be proof enough that the story has an underlying fictional meaning. I would think after one year lost in the desert, someone would be wise enough to pick one direction and follow it until they were out. This isn't rocket science