Nietzsche's Astrological Chart

[Und1ne]

I am.. Awed at the absurdity of such a contrasting outlook of Nietzsche (and related) via mysticism

[guitaoist]

Yes many aren't familiar that Nietzsche had a huge fear of lightning...check out my top hit vid discussing his psychic abilities..

[ZerstorenAH]

Why do you mention anything philosophy-related in your shit mysticism?

[guitaoist]

O because I dunno that's where philosophy came frum.

[ZerstorenAH]

@guitaoist Perhaps where it CAME from, but philosophy has since moved in radically separate directions. Nietzsche was no mystic, he wasnt a buddhist, and would not have faith in this banal trash. Oh yes, and psychic abilities? Alright then.

[guitaoist]

I don't get it, does that mean you ARE gonna be a bore and not watch the vid? Cuz that's typical.

Also you obviously haven't even read his autobiography if you don't think he liked Buddhism ! Lol

[ZerstorenAH]

@guitaoist I can cite passages where he openly maligns buddhism as a ascetic dictum similar to christianity. Although he did consider it a more reverent alternative.

[109740ewh]

Nieztsche had Saturn in Aquarius just like me! But I'm no scientist. I wonder what house his Saturn was located at, mine's literally in the last degree of my 4th house. What is that first song with the didjeridoo in it? The second song practically raped my eardrums LOL...

[doobdoob2]

Hello Guitaoust. What are your thoughts on Aleister Crowley? Perhaps he is not your point of focus right now, but what is your opinion on him? He had a really great astrological chart. If you google a picture of him you can really see his bold Leo rising. Also have you been to the website astrotheme? It is the greatest online astrology database. I think you'd be very interested in it.

[guitaoist]

I thinks he's crazy from the things I've read by him .. I don't believe in ritualistic occult ceremonies, I believe in ideas

[swanwickcraig]

Quotes not long enough Im trying to read

[AstroChartsMadeEasy]

Nice video,

thanks for sharing.

;-)

[reconrabbit]

lol Nietzsche followers always got the longest, most intricate commentary

[psalm69er]

By the way since you're a self proclaimed "Nietzsche scholar" and now that I've watched a few of your "edutainment" videos can I become a GURU on my channel too? Or do I need to start drawing squiggles on astrological charts before I can obtain such an important status?

[guitaoist]

You need respect before u can be a Guru, but you seem to enjoy thinking youre smarter than someone, not a hi sign of maturity

Does your screenname mean youre religious? I love line 4 of that psalm: "They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head". And if you are, do you not forget that Astrologers were the ones who discovered Jesus' birth?

Either way your arguments for or against my ideas have little relevance. Nothing I say will mattr 2 u. Its my belief, bugger off

[psalm69er]

Respect or a couple of mouse clicks on ur yt profile. I got my moniker from the classic heavy metal album "Psalm69" by Ministry which is an aggressive attack on christianity. So ur jabs at religion are missing the mark, I'm a skeptic and atheist to the core. My beef with u is about ur use of Nietsczhe to justify ur wacky beliefs. Plus its fun to prick ur overinflated ego. That could very well be immature but it is much less so than proclaiming urself as a "Nietzsche scholar" when ur not...

[schizoapriori]

"My beef with u is about ur use of Nietsczhe to justify ur wacky beliefs."

i'm speechless. and in part, in agreement. in part.

under it all, guitaoist is an alright guy. his perspective on Nietzsche is just that, a perspective. a scholar of perspectivism. maybe not Nietzsche though. he will give you a run around in astrology though.

[psalm69er]

Who cares if he can give me the run around in astrology. Astrology isn't a perspective its bullcrap. Its sole premise is that lumps of rock and gas millions of miles away affect who we are on earth. Nietzsche never discusses astrology in his writing, Guitaoist just throws his name around to give his beliefs a veneer of intellectualism when they really belong in back pages of women's magazines and tabloid newspapers.

[schizoapriori]

'Astrology isn't a perspective its bullcrap.'

well, that's one perspective. granted, i don't give it much thought either. as far as i go with it is acknowledging that Nietzsche and myself are both libras. anything more is just fluff.

'Guitaoist just throws his name around to give his beliefs a veneer of intellectualism'

i hear you loud and clear. he's certainly no Goethe.

'they really belong in back pages of women's magazines and tabloid newspapers'

right next to the sea monkeys.

[schizoapriori]

'You need respect before u can be a Guru,'

oh, come now. before you can be a Guru, you may have to know a few things. nothing to do with respect.

[psalm69er]

Hilarious, you believe that people's personalities are shaped by what time of the year they are born, and the positions of chunks of rock and gas in the sky, yet at 1:53 on this video u admit that Nietzsche 'Overcame' the personality type for Gemini/ Taurus. Once you admit that people have free will to be different than what their 'signs' predict you shoot your own loopy theories, or perhaps ravings is a better word, in the foot. ROFL.

[guitaoist]

yeah crazy huh

[tiakpark]

@psalm69er Have you read Kohsen Handa's "2013: the day God sees God"? It briefly alludes to Nietzsche. It even has a graph of the Sephiroth and how it corresponds to differing levels of human consciousness.

An Overman is someone who can cross Daath, the abyss.

You should check it out. It's not just another schlocky doomsday prophecy book.

[pythagoras9]

It is good to see that you have used quotes from sections of "The Will To Power". Some people use the false claim that Nietzsche's own writings in "The Will To Power" is not a credible reference for Nietzsche's own ideas because these writings were published by his sister and not by Nietzsche himself.

[guitaoist]

Poppy-cock. Shes so dumb she wouldnt know what to cross out except anything that might have said something beneficial to the jews. Ur right, the Will to Power is essential to his repertoire. I love scattered notes more than works sometimes anyways

[schizoapriori]

"Some people use the false claim.."

what's your proof?

[pythagoras9]

The structure of the whole book, the book titles and chapter titles and the numbered sections and dates were created by Elisabeth Forster-Nietzsche, Peter Gast, Ernst Horneffer and August Horneffer. The actual text itself in the numbered sections comes from Nietzsche's notebook writings (they are his actual writings). If you do not believe me, then check out the facsimile reproductions of Nietzsche's writings in the beginning of the book that the text is taken from.

[schizoapriori]

'If you do not believe me, then check out the facsimile reproductions of Nietzsche's writings in the beginning of the book that the text is taken from.'

i have those.

i'm not completely dismissing the book, per se. just weary of the 'structure of the whole book.'

who wouldn't want to have Nietzsche's notes and ideas written down before they were 'polished,' to use a better word?

after all, it's a 'book for thinking, nothing else.'

people have to keep in mind who is translating it.

[pythagoras9]

My copy is translated from the German into English by Walter Kaufmann and R.J. Hollingdale. I mentioned that there are some people who make the false claim that you cannot use quotes from this text as representing Nietzsche's ideas. I consider this way of thinking to be extreme and incorrect. Many people quote Leonardo da Vinci from his notebook writings and no one comes along and claims that his notebooks do not represent his ideas, yet some people do this with Nietzsche and his notebooks.

[schizoapriori]

'My copy is translated from the German into English by Walter Kaufmann and R.J. Hollingdale.'

5*****

'Many people quote Leonardo da Vinci from his notebook writings and no one comes along and claims that his notebooks do not represent his ideas, yet some people do this with Nietzsche and his notebooks.'

very true.

in Kaufmann's Nietzsche, quotes abound from The Will to Power. one would have to discount about 98% of Kaufmann's book based on usage from The Will to Power.

[pythagoras9]

I am not sure what you are getting at, Walter Kaufmann is known for translating it from the German into English. What do you mean that 98% of the text has to be discounted? This seems like a vague and inconclusive statement on your part.

[schizoapriori]

'I am not sure what you are getting at, Walter Kaufmann is known for translating it from the German into English.'

he is. i have everything he ever translated into english that deals with Nietzsche. i gave you five stars (5*****) for having his translation. nothing more.

[schizoapriori]

'What do you mean that 98% of the text has to be discounted?'

what i said was, "one would have to discount about 98% of Kaufmann's book based on usage from The Will to Power."

[schizoapriori]

i never said it 'had' to be discounted. nor did i say it 'should' be discounted. i'll explain slowly for you and refresh your memory. you said that it's bogus for anyone to dismiss The Will to Power as a simple forgery.

[schizoapriori]

you also stated that the notebooks and notes have value, more so than the 'structure of the whole book.' i agreed. then i stated that having a reputable translator is a plus. then you stated that you have the kaufmann/hollingdale trans. ergo, i gave you 5 stars. my way of saying, "that's good."

[schizoapriori]

my point is: if anyone discounts the notes and the early, unpublished manuscripts from The Will to Power,

then "one would have to discount about 98% of Kaufmann's book based on usage from The Will to Power,"

seeing how he heavily refers to it; giving it value. I'm reffering, of course, to Kaufmann's ~Nietzsche: Philosopher, Psychologist, Antichrist.~

check it out if you haven't already.

[schizoapriori]

'This seems like a vague and inconclusive statement on your part.'

if it seems so, then the blame is not neccesarily mine.

[schizoapriori]

'Some people use the false claim that Nietzsche's own writings in "The Will To Power" is not a credible reference for Nietzsche's own ideas because these writings were published by his sister and not by Nietzsche himself.'

exactly. and those same 'people' "...would have to discount about 98% of Kaufmann's book, based on usage from The Will to Power."

i didn't mean for my original comment to be so earth shaking and complex. believe it or not, we're in agreement.

[PeteUtonic]

Interesting combination: Nietzsche and astrology. But have you not read his comments on the 'intellectual conscience'?

I would say that astrology, like god, is dead. There's less proof and reason for astrology than for heaven and hell!

[guitaoist]

Course- my 'desire for certainty' is the whole reason i make these videos. My intellectual conscience demands that i show ppl my evidence.

Id have to disagree with that second remark tho. Astrology has made more tangible the mystery of the psyche. Like Jung said "Just as wine has a different taste while harvested in a different season, so too do men." He and I ironically believe that "Nietzsche was no atheist. He could not tolerate the urban neurosis of atheism." But thats just us

[PeteUtonic]

But, taking it further, both psychoanalysis and analytic psychology themselves are without proof or reason. These practices have been relegated to the mythology that astrology inhabits - i.e. no-one believes them now either!

Although both Freud & Jung are very interesting to read! They just assume far more than is justifiable, in my humble opinion.

[PeteUtonic]

Oh, and by the way, please take a look at my Nietzsche video. Another weird combination!

[schizoapriori]

'"Nietzsche was no atheist. He could not tolerate the urban neurosis of atheism."'

gee, i thought Nietzsche WAS an atheist 'by instinct.' seeing how Nietzsche said 'god is a gross answer...an indelicacy to us thinkers.'

it has been shown that Jung did not always understand Nietzsche. sorry to say.

'He and I ironically believe that "Nietzsche was no atheist. He could not tolerate the urban neurosis of atheism." But thats just us'

there is irony in that. believe me. lol.

[guitaoist]

Yes and no, what "I" believe the word god SHOULD mean exists, he does to I think. Not what men's definition of god tends to be.

What Jung means by that atheist quote is of a more spiritual tone, not religious. "He could not tolerate the urban neurosis [of nihilism]" would be better. Because for me nihilism means we're all floating around with no goals, which Nietzsche spent his life to overcome.

Jung might have got it a little wrong, but he did know how spiritual a nature Nietzsche harbored

[schizoapriori]

'"He could not tolerate the urban neurosis [of nihilism]" would be better.'

seeing how you equate nihilism with atheism, i have to point out that there are more ways than one to run into nihilism. REMEBER, Nietzsche considered christianity AND spirituality, as such, as being characteristically nihilistic.

[schizoapriori]

2 examples: believe in an ultimate reality in 'other-worldly' fashion and rob this life, here and now, of any meaning. or, rejecting the belief of an ultimate reality and all 'other-worldliness' and therefore robbing everything in this life, here and now, of any meaning.

[schizoapriori]

sounds like a slippery slope no matter which way you go.

say no to the "postulated atheism of seriousness and responsibilty."

[schizoapriori]

sp. responsibility*

[tiakpark]

@guitaoist I quite agree. If a person succumbs to nihilism out of atheist belief then it is probably because such a belief was a necessary butrress for their mental stabilty.

Superficial atheists like Richard Dawkins cleave to atheism like a religion, then, suddenly, "there's a logical explaination for this" becomes a mere mantra.

Nietzsche atheism was anti-nihilistic. A kind of pagan-atheism, if you will.

[jack19790]

I just read his comments on the "intellectual conscience" last night in "The Gay Science"! I know exactly what you are taling about! It's applicable EVERYWHERE.

[Tusek420]

"One-ness within the purpose of all cultures"

You can also see that in "Thus spoke Zarathustra", The Thousand and One Goals (15th speech): A thousand goals have there been hitherto, for a thousand peoples

have there been. Only the fetter for the thousand necks is still

lacking; there is lacking the one goal. As yet humanity hath not a

goal. But pray tell me, my brethren, if the goal of humanity be still

lacking, is there not also still lacking- humanity itself?-

Thus spoke Zrathustra

[guitaoist]

perfect quote- is that ur fav work?

[schizoapriori]

in 'The Thousand and One Goals,' Nietzsche stresses moral relativism with one common theme throughout. The Will to Power.

[marsmermaid]

very informative thank you

[HaleyMary]

Those were interesting quotes. I liked the one about not having joy in certainty, but in uncertainty. Life can be better with a little mystery in it sometimes. Thanks for sharing this. :)

[guitaoist]

1 of my favs too. Its something that disturbs most non-nietzschean readers- 'why read him if he's just gonna make the world a bigger mystery?' is their reasoning. But who ever said all of this was supposed to have an answer?

[schizoapriori]

yes, Nietzsche called it his 'amor fati.'