Two things I can never stops seeing in this clip. The tenors little "cocaine" visual at :33 and the second snare hitting the rim on the back-sticking at :51. Other than that, this has always been my favorite DCI drum feature.
That tenor effect at :32 is called 'white lines' IIRC. Was taking private lessons back in the day from Mark Adams, who was on BD tenor line either this year or the year before (you can never tell with the hats!). Used to crack me up watching the tape of this performance and seeing that effect.
listen to the Rodney Goodheart tape I think of the last show before Nats week.(its out there somewhere). No commentary at all until the beginning of the drum solo; first words uttered were "Ooooooh Shit"!!!! one of the cleanest lines in the history of drum and bugle corps!
@PkmnYo Center stick Steve Campbell....he of the perfect 100 in I&E that year. Quiet guy, too...we worked together at the Concord McDonald's when we marched BD in 84 and I don't remember him saying more than a few words....hit sticks, tho, spoke volumes.
I was between the 40 and 45 yardlines for finals in 1986. All the talk was about Santa Clara winning but I said no the Devils got it, after the first note they all told me I was right.
This line had some serious talent. You have the only snare soloist to score a perfect score of 100 as the section leader. To the right of him is the previous year section leader for the santa clara vanguard. In the quad line you have the legend of quads who got second in Solo's the year before. The list goes on. Cool Vid man.
when the camera switches to the tri-toms at 0:20, the snares and cymbals do some sick-@ss visuals. I've been tryin to find the clip of it on here but can't. does anyone know where i can find it?
Not dirty, mylar drum heads sound different than kevlar. My teacher marched Madison Scouts snare that year and said they were clean as a whistle! One of the all time great drumlines!
1.) Not a "coke" visual @:33, but an electron microscope looking for ticks vis; none discovered. 2.) re: Vis tick @ :52, thanks, "Debbie Downer". More notable: see unphased, mature recovery and solid drumming under enormous Nats Night pressure. Ricky is an amazing drummer. He earned his '86 DCI ring & the High Drum Trophy.
The tall guy playing snare 3rd from the left was my snare drum instructor in high school. HIs name is Jay Dold. I played at santa clara high school from 1996 to 2000. My junior year we played channel one suite and our drumline played this exact solo and we swept first place at every competition.
Hey?! That was the year SCV's center snare -Dave Dillulo- made the switch and marched for BD that year! I tripped out when I found out. I was like, "do cross town rival corps allow that to happen?" LOL! Thinking about it.. I guess so. After BD's '89 soloist choked at Nat's he came over and marched with SCV in '90. Anyway, loved this drum solo.. one of my top three.
lol.. yeah.. I know.. after I aged out in '89 i thought I heard Mike going to BK? I think he followed Ralph?? But I just found out too a few weeks ago at a 20 year SCV reunion that one our common friends we all marched with told me Mike marched BD in '92. wow!
I REALLY miss that snare sound, actually. Kevlar sounds like a formica table, just obnoxious. Those original power strokes were the best snare heads ever, in my opinion.
Yeah, that was back when they sounded like real drums instead of countertops. I hate the new kevlar sound. It's annoying as hell! Doesn't even sound like a snare.
Yeah, I've never understood the appeal of that sound. No tone, no resonance, no projection, nothing. It's the exact opposite of anything musical. In fact, a formica table probably has a more complex acoustic signature than those kev heads do. No kidding.
Really? Well that's a shame. I heard he was really mean but he is better now. He is the drum inscructor at my high school and I like the guy. He also gives me tenor lessons so I guess he is just cool with me.
I saw this show at finals in Madison, and yes, BD truly blew my face off. BD 86 was one of the fiercest corps to ever hit the field. The hornline and drum line were just killer!
I was there, too. Lots of great shows that year! I was in about the 3rd row and I remember Madison being louder than hell, too. Man, that was a great year to be at finals.
I'm trying to post that '86 tape (week before Nat's with Rodney goodhart on the field) on snarespace. He says nothing 'til "Oh Shit" 4 min. in. I also have access to an '83 judges tape... have to get it from my friend that marched '90 LOL. I marched 87,88,89
Krepp!!!!!!! I have a tape from 86, stand still fr Allen town.........Holly bejezzuz!!! the crowd went so nutz when they were done that they played CH one AGAIN!!!! awesome!!
please put that up on the page i was in the c corp those years and i miss great fucking drumming this shit now days moving around while your playing is fucking killing me please put that on this youtube please
Yeah, drum corps has really gone to hell, hasn't it? I can't watch it, all that clowning around and dancing and 'emoting'. It's a mockery of what it once was.
I was there in the 3rd row and recorded it w/my blaster (which I always had w/me at that time, recording everything I could). It was definitely tight, but the DCI recording is picking up the slapback from the stands so it sounds mushy and, frankly, awful. My recording didn't pick that stuff up so you can hear how clean it actually is.
@cajonezzz It's the video/audio recording. I've heard judges tapes and tapes from the stands from that year and all i can say is Damn! the judge even swears out loud hahaha "oh F**K" as the drum solo starts... and yes they won drums. Back then the recordings made everybody sound like they were a mess. Mic position/ phasing issues. Really a shame. you have to turn one speaker completely off/ pan left or right (depending on which side of the field the line was on) to hear how it actually sounded.
@cajonezzz Wasn't dirty at all....you don't get Ron Goodheart making almost NO comments on the take if you're dirty. It's the vid. They swept all the captions, losing ONLY downstairs brass to Suncoast Sound. This was the 4th drum title in a row (83-86) for BD.
So you marched in 76? Just kidding. I don't think you can make a direct comparison between the two since the sound on this 20+ year old vid isn't all that great, and there were some serious notes in the '86 program. "Much, much tighter" might be a bit drastic.
Morgan Case marched tenors this year, when he taught our HS line, we had the coke visual as well as the bong visual, and heroin visual.
vegas89143 4 months ago
lol
snareplaya15 6 months ago
Two things I can never stops seeing in this clip. The tenors little "cocaine" visual at :33 and the second snare hitting the rim on the back-sticking at :51. Other than that, this has always been my favorite DCI drum feature.
I12BPhil 6 months ago
That tenor effect at :32 is called 'white lines' IIRC. Was taking private lessons back in the day from Mark Adams, who was on BD tenor line either this year or the year before (you can never tell with the hats!). Used to crack me up watching the tape of this performance and seeing that effect.
gaddmatt 6 months ago
listen to the Rodney Goodheart tape I think of the last show before Nats week.(its out there somewhere). No commentary at all until the beginning of the drum solo; first words uttered were "Ooooooh Shit"!!!! one of the cleanest lines in the history of drum and bugle corps!
monkeybeat4u 9 months ago
Does anyone have a list of names of the snares?
PkmnYo 1 year ago
@PkmnYo Center stick Steve Campbell....he of the perfect 100 in I&E that year. Quiet guy, too...we worked together at the Concord McDonald's when we marched BD in 84 and I don't remember him saying more than a few words....hit sticks, tho, spoke volumes.
homfencing 1 month ago
I was between the 40 and 45 yardlines for finals in 1986. All the talk was about Santa Clara winning but I said no the Devils got it, after the first note they all told me I was right.
mikedrumsbk67 1 year ago
This line had some serious talent. You have the only snare soloist to score a perfect score of 100 as the section leader. To the right of him is the previous year section leader for the santa clara vanguard. In the quad line you have the legend of quads who got second in Solo's the year before. The list goes on. Cool Vid man.
fsmsg 1 year ago
The BEST ever uniform they had !!!!!!!
ZiegeGF 1 year ago 2
@ZiegeGF And it was a great pleasure to wear it!
homfencing 1 month ago
was this the year they got a perfect score? cause around 0:51 the 2nd to left snare hits his rim after back sticking.
drumdude113 1 year ago
@drumdude113 No...the perfect drum score was Garfield in 87...with a bit of pit/battery phasing....perfect score my ass
homfencing 1 month ago
when the camera switches to the tri-toms at 0:20, the snares and cymbals do some sick-@ss visuals. I've been tryin to find the clip of it on here but can't. does anyone know where i can find it?
epsig700 1 year ago
@epsig700 Blue Devils 1986 Drumline Snippet
sphinxman90 1 year ago
Not dirty, mylar drum heads sound different than kevlar. My teacher marched Madison Scouts snare that year and said they were clean as a whistle! One of the all time great drumlines!
cbfeeling 1 year ago
@cbfeeling Yeah, the finals recordings(video and audio) dont do them justice at all.
multibuddhaneo 1 year ago
This solo pushes, it grooves, and flat-out kicks ass !!!
P.S. I miss cymbals
plormitch 1 year ago
what the hell are those things at 0:24
jakubrox19 2 years ago
Tenors, They the old north drums with the built in scoops
sterling2330 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
What band is this ?
ZXROMEO 2 years ago
Gotta love those North tenors!!!
jadebrew 2 years ago
does anyone have a full vid of this show?
timartin91 2 years ago
They had it on youtube a couple years ago, but of course, they took it down. What a shame. It was a great show.
dcbandnerd 2 years ago
Tick at 0:52. 2nd snare from the left.
tlewis10060 2 years ago
1.) Not a "coke" visual @:33, but an electron microscope looking for ticks vis; none discovered. 2.) re: Vis tick @ :52, thanks, "Debbie Downer". More notable: see unphased, mature recovery and solid drumming under enormous Nats Night pressure. Ricky is an amazing drummer. He earned his '86 DCI ring & the High Drum Trophy.
WFLSilverDot 2 years ago
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xXlJuStInlXx 2 years ago
tenors with the coke vis at :33.....ha....
igmalfuentes 3 years ago 2
The tall guy playing snare 3rd from the left was my snare drum instructor in high school. HIs name is Jay Dold. I played at santa clara high school from 1996 to 2000. My junior year we played channel one suite and our drumline played this exact solo and we swept first place at every competition.
jmharvey13 3 years ago
Jay was such a great guy - I marched with him in 1985
bleem1 2 years ago
I know this is me being ignorant or dumb but what kind of drums are those at 0:20 ?
yeahyeahyeahyeahya 3 years ago
North drums. A tribute to their championship years of '76 or '77 when they used them as well.
88Drumline 3 years ago
Hey?! That was the year SCV's center snare -Dave Dillulo- made the switch and marched for BD that year! I tripped out when I found out. I was like, "do cross town rival corps allow that to happen?" LOL! Thinking about it.. I guess so. After BD's '89 soloist choked at Nat's he came over and marched with SCV in '90. Anyway, loved this drum solo.. one of my top three.
88SCV89 3 years ago
You are correct sir. How about Mike French going from red to blue in 92?
thejooj17 2 years ago
lol.. yeah.. I know.. after I aged out in '89 i thought I heard Mike going to BK? I think he followed Ralph?? But I just found out too a few weeks ago at a 20 year SCV reunion that one our common friends we all marched with told me Mike marched BD in '92. wow!
88SCV89 2 years ago
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thejooj17 2 years ago
Must've been a little uncomfortable at the first few shows with SCV, since Dave's brother was still playing mello for SCV.
More people went red to blue than the other way around...I stood next to one in the 07 BD/SCV alum corps.
In 84 we had over a dozen people come to BD from SCV following the 83 retreat debacle.
homfencing 2 years ago
Paradox!!!!! This line, that year; WAS THE SHEEEEIT!!!
LOL!! I remember the 80's. The snares were tuned so low then. Or high for those heads, really.
Ahhh!!!! BD baby!!!
astone69 3 years ago
I REALLY miss that snare sound, actually. Kevlar sounds like a formica table, just obnoxious. Those original power strokes were the best snare heads ever, in my opinion.
longfade 3 years ago
I know... I miss those years myself. I would've loved just to be there. Let alone march that year. Ending with Chick Corea!!!! SERIOUS STUFF!!!
astone69 3 years ago
Yeah, that was back when they sounded like real drums instead of countertops. I hate the new kevlar sound. It's annoying as hell! Doesn't even sound like a snare.
I12BPhil 3 years ago
Yeah, I've never understood the appeal of that sound. No tone, no resonance, no projection, nothing. It's the exact opposite of anything musical. In fact, a formica table probably has a more complex acoustic signature than those kev heads do. No kidding.
longfade 3 years ago
Ahhh...actually, Paradox was the 82-83 solo....this break didn't have a name (as it wasn't a stand-alone)
homfencing 2 years ago
my highschool drum teacher was one of the snare drummers for this year
HaloPlayingDrummer 3 years ago
who...Rick Rodriquez? This is one of my all time favorite shows!
obwheeler 3 years ago
no mike adisol
HaloPlayingDrummer 3 years ago
Dude his name is Mike Atesalp and he never played snare. He is playing NorthDrums in this video and in 87 and 88 he played quads.
MiniKrupa 3 years ago
Mike Atesalp is a total douche. I met him in real life. Seriously, he is super full of himself and not a nice person.
punkrockdrummer 3 years ago
Really? Well that's a shame. I heard he was really mean but he is better now. He is the drum inscructor at my high school and I like the guy. He also gives me tenor lessons so I guess he is just cool with me.
MiniKrupa 3 years ago
I saw this show at finals in Madison, and yes, BD truly blew my face off. BD 86 was one of the fiercest corps to ever hit the field. The hornline and drum line were just killer!
christo916 3 years ago
I was there, too. Lots of great shows that year! I was in about the 3rd row and I remember Madison being louder than hell, too. Man, that was a great year to be at finals.
longfade 3 years ago
davekrepp this is MONTOYA wassup homey get back at me homeboy
bdsnareline97 3 years ago
Haha, the quads do the coke snorting visual at 0:32.
StringsofMartyr 3 years ago
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man... pretty dirty, and i don't think it's the vid. Did devs win drums that year?
cajonezzz 4 years ago
The BD website says they swept all captions in 1986.
go2thomas 4 years ago 2
Dude. It's the quality of the recording. I heard a the field percussion tape of this show. It was piss clean my friend.
tendura 4 years ago
It wasn't dirty, it's a recording thing (the recording sounds terrible in 87 too, and that was FAR from dirty!).
Yes they won drums. Cadets were second.
DaveinJapan11 4 years ago
You obviously haven't heard the Drum judges tape. One of the best drumline ever.
drummer9699 3 years ago
Do you have a copy of this tape? Would love to here...as 1986 BD is my favorite DCI show of all time.
stretch45g 3 years ago
I have the execution tape from Stillwater Mn. with Rodney Goodhart
davekrepp 3 years ago
I'm trying to post that '86 tape (week before Nat's with Rodney goodhart on the field) on snarespace. He says nothing 'til "Oh Shit" 4 min. in. I also have access to an '83 judges tape... have to get it from my friend that marched '90 LOL. I marched 87,88,89
davekrepp 3 years ago
Krepp!!!!!!! I have a tape from 86, stand still fr Allen town.........Holly bejezzuz!!! the crowd went so nutz when they were done that they played CH one AGAIN!!!! awesome!!
--D'
1990bluedevilDG 3 years ago
Dave Krepp?!?! Do you ever talk to Mike Atesalp anymore?
lumpheadthump 3 years ago
All the time
davekrepp 3 years ago
please put that up on the page i was in the c corp those years and i miss great fucking drumming this shit now days moving around while your playing is fucking killing me please put that on this youtube please
bdsnareline97 3 years ago
Yeah, drum corps has really gone to hell, hasn't it? I can't watch it, all that clowning around and dancing and 'emoting'. It's a mockery of what it once was.
longfade 3 years ago
Im not alone! I agree!
multibuddhaneo 2 years ago
ah-- that's good to know. would love to hear the execution tape--- I've got the one for 83-- pretty cool.
cajonezzz 3 years ago
I was there in the 3rd row and recorded it w/my blaster (which I always had w/me at that time, recording everything I could). It was definitely tight, but the DCI recording is picking up the slapback from the stands so it sounds mushy and, frankly, awful. My recording didn't pick that stuff up so you can hear how clean it actually is.
longfade 3 years ago
@cajonezzz It's the video/audio recording. I've heard judges tapes and tapes from the stands from that year and all i can say is Damn! the judge even swears out loud hahaha "oh F**K" as the drum solo starts... and yes they won drums. Back then the recordings made everybody sound like they were a mess. Mic position/ phasing issues. Really a shame. you have to turn one speaker completely off/ pan left or right (depending on which side of the field the line was on) to hear how it actually sounded.
cireravilob 1 year ago
@cajonezzz that's what you get for thinking.
lumpheadthump 1 year ago
@cajonezzz mylar doesn't sound the same as kevlar. My former instructor toured with these guys' that year and said they were as clean as you get.
cbfeeling 1 year ago
@cajonezzz it wasnt dirty dude. thats just how snares sounded back then.
TheDragonmaster18 8 months ago
@TheDragonmaster18 Agreed, Snares of today do not really sound good IMO
sphinxman90 8 months ago
@cajonezzz Wasn't dirty at all....you don't get Ron Goodheart making almost NO comments on the take if you're dirty. It's the vid. They swept all the captions, losing ONLY downstairs brass to Suncoast Sound. This was the 4th drum title in a row (83-86) for BD.
homfencing 1 month ago
So you marched in 76? Just kidding. I don't think you can make a direct comparison between the two since the sound on this 20+ year old vid isn't all that great, and there were some serious notes in the '86 program. "Much, much tighter" might be a bit drastic.
lumpheadthump 4 years ago
I really thought the '76 version of this solo was much, much tighter. Don't hate me for thinking this.
otterinbham 4 years ago