Noam Chomsky on the Role of the Educational System

[zhouystr]

12 people are from harvard

[aminevich]

12 people were told to vote thumbs down...do it! Push the thumbs down button you automaton!

[happyhazelnut]

So nice to listen to the voice of reason.

[66ott7]

Watch Dead Poets Society. Its a good film depicting obedience vs Creativity in school.

[Thunderwolf666]

@66ott7 What you need to always bear in mind though is that it's a film. A fictional account, not a sociological study. Not saying it's a bad film, just saying to take it with a pinch of salt.

[nomis101uk]

I don't agree with this very much. Just doesn't ring true. I do think there is a degree of what Chomsky is describing in the educational system, but I think he's just not giving kids enough credit for how indepedant minded they can be. As if they get brain washed at the first utterance of an authority figure.

But what I love about Chomsky is that even if you don't entirely agree, it's always interesting and always thought provoking, because there's always an element of truth to what he's saying

[jumpyourbone]

@nomis101uk

perhaps you're just lucky that this wasn't your experience; it was thoroughly mine!

[SUpersaiyajinjerkbag]

@nomis101uk

I don'y know. We have all thought "not even a coal miner would put up with this" or even "this is so ghetto every other society seems classy". I don't know whether to disagree with chomsky or say 2 out of three aint bad or this would be true anyway. What say you?

[dutytocareforothers]

@Blunic You smell.

[disclaimer05]

I had such a disdain for education and school. My highschool assignments were dull, dumb, and uninspiring. Upon going to college and getting good professors, as well as spending TONS of time in the library, I discovered how much I love economics, history, and philosophy. Once I had professors who gave me challenging, thought provoking assignments I realized how ridiculous our education system really is.

[heeh2]

It wasn't until college that I realized teachers were actually trying to teach me something.

[IndianaTruth12]

@heeh2 Yeah you say that now but graduates coming out of College can't find no jobs and it's a waste of time and money! The College system is a dam joke also!

[heeh2]

@IndianaTruth12

Only liberal arts majors will be out of a job. The usefulness of a degree isn't what is being disputed, the only thing thats even up for debate is how stupid/unresponsive the degree distribution system is.

[CytotoxicTrev]

this is great

[WingThaiJ]

Search: The Top 200 Chomsky Lies - Paul Bogdanor On YouTube

[KidInsight]

@WingThaiJ I did, the ignorance of it pissed me off a hell of a lot. I disliked it and everyone else watching this video will too if they watch it. Damn, I'd feared bullshit was finding more elaborate ways to rear it's ugly head and discredit intellectuals that are just trying to give people the truth, but youtube bots and fake accounts (about half of the accounts commenting in favour of the video no longer exist), that's some poor ass excuse for a human being right there. Don't watch folks.

[Jayjay1176]

Any comments on replacing Religion across the board and replacing it with Quantum Physics, Neurology and Arts including music focusing on the harmonics raising the frequency of the body in correlation to brainwave patterns recoding genetics. The educational system never really evolved with modern day sciences it was a side subject outside of school or an extra curriculum

[FieldingYost]

@anchapple I think you mean you agree completely. Chomsky is stating these things, not condoning them.

[agmarkis]

I think American high schools need to have a little less of main classes, and a little more of a class with something to do with extracirricular productivity. Of course it would be subjective, but if you let people work on their hobby and show what people accomplished, then it would be encouraging.

And if their hobby is a school subject, then they can do extra research. If they dont have a particular productive hobby they can do career activities to prepare for college.

But who knows.

[towneslives]

my teachers hate the exam system almost as much as us students do. everyone knows that the best times in lessons are the wild digressions into discussions of anything and everything but the fucking syllabus. i've learned more about history from my english teacher and more about literature from my philosophy teacher.

nb: i've learned nothing about punctuation from anybody.

[dutytocareforothers]

@Blunic Competition with your fellow peers for what? In understanding subjects? That's not much of a competition. Plus we all know the popular kids or the nerds win those competitions. Whatever teachers or professors force you to learn in college or school is parochial: it's so narrow in focus that only the most arrogant and kiss-ass students are eager to succeed: they want praise from the professor and to "one up" their classmates. Sure way to earn enemies.

[DanielM12345678]

In regards to the Cornell incident, I think Chomsky's confusing Bloom for Donald Kagan.

[rafawahl]

Hi, I am not native english speaker can you tell me please what his he saying?

the system of inducternation of the young?

what does inducternation means?.. if that´s the correct word..

Thanks

[RSFO]

@rafawahl He said "indoctrination". I bet a similar latin word exist in your native language.

[gsixtysix]

“But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education SUCKS, and it’s the same reason it will never … ever … EVER be fixed

Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but Ill tell you what they don’t want . . . they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. … … They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking"

George Carlin

[wwarden12]

I have yet to see any real thinking from the ground up in the institution of education.

[dutytocareforothers]

@wwarden12 True plus it's not like Noam Chomsky is saying information we don't already know: it is rather pitiful that it takes a professor to announce that the education system is utter complete excrement. Every now and then you get a professor who has a passion for teaching the subject: other professors are blow-hards who harass and rough up their students: other professors are pompous buffoons. They are there because nobody has trained them to be better and nobody has ever forced them out.

[WonderfulWhippet]

I think this is certainly true of humanities degrees, I really do. Word counts are an example of this: there are times when writing to a specific word coutn is important, but in school (british useage) and university it's all about controlling expression.

[centurion180ad]

The corporations USED to need scientists & engineers. Now all our factories have been disassembled and shipped to communist china at taxpayer’s expense.

All we slaves with now useless B.S. or B.E. degrees, are servile as manual labor to pay off our share of 100,000 dollars of national debt, and will spend a lifetime of drudgery paying off our share of the impossible derivatives Black Hole of some 1,000,000 dollars each which is already accumulating interest against our future productivity

[dutytocareforothers]

@centurion180ad Thank your conniving professors and the dean of students for screwing you over with a complaint letter: that's what my channel is about. It's standing up against the worthless college education system run rampant with tantrum throwing psychopathic control-freak communist professors.

[CleoTheSim]

@dutytocareforothers Communist? Really? They live on a commune? They share the profits of their labor?

[dutytocareforothers]

@CleoTheSim Stalin and Mao weren't about sharing profits.

[CleoTheSim]

@dutytocareforothers Stalin and Mao weren't communists. They were opportunistic dictators.

[dutytocareforothers]

@CleoTheSim I know what you are getting at. However, the forms of communism that most people know about are from Stalin and Mao. Their policies involved a lot of spying, conformity, collectivism, oppression, and happy -go-lucky parades that created the facade of communism: which you will see a tinge of universities. 

[CleoTheSim]

@dutytocareforothers You'll also see a large dose of fascism at universities. You'll also see anarchists, religious zealots, agnostics, and lots and lots of people who don't understand what communism is.

"Spying, conformity, collectivism, oppression, and happy -go-lucky parades," are NOT communism. Mao and Stalin were NOT communists. I am not a communist either...but I know what the word means...and I know when not to use it.

[dutytocareforothers]

@CleoTheSim Fascism is big at universities: all give you that.

[fallenempireoverdrve]

@dutytocareforothers ....umm america does the same thing

[majordbag2]

"You know there are teachers who stimulate thought and sometimes they get away with it"

awesome quote!

[TheChargerchick]

Completely agree

[sgtmcwallace]

this mans brilliance never fails to astonish me even in his old age, he will be sorely missed when he is gone.

[dutytocareforothers]

@sgtmcwallace I think Dr. Michael Parenti is better than Noam Chomsky.

[punxsutawneybarney]

Dr. Chomsky recently told Iranian TV that at the time the USA attacked Afghanistan they had no evidence that al Qaeda did 9/11. See my video "Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11"

[MistressMavro]

We spend more on education than any other nation, yet we're considered around the 20th best system. I have come to the conclusion, that we are PURPOSEFULLY not given quality education because we would start to realize just how CORPORATIZED our nation has become.

The only thing our education system prepares us for is being good little consumers. Consumers of politics, advertising, commodities, FOOD, crap you don't need etc etc etc. Thinking critically? That's not a priority

[futurahi]

I love this! Im having this problem right now with my tutors and university in London. They trying to turn me into a automaton. grrrrrrrrrrrrr

[8005219319n]

this video made me so happy.

the feeling a had when a went to school was that

this must be what prison feels like.

and its kinda ironic that i discovered the joy of

learning history, science and so on after i left school. Noam chomsky my hero.

[Nusoundsnow]

another serious problem is rather narrow/specific education. Such ant approach may rob one of possibilities to actually play one's finest role during one's existence, this of course with some application to the outer public too.

[dutytocareforothers]

Find the right college program. They are not all equal even if it is a tier one university you should still be really careful. Read all of the complaints and criticisms of that university and program. And take everything bad written about it very seriously. Because there is truth to the complaints and criticism. Some professors are extremely terrible and they do very unethical activities that you would never imagine. And universities in general are known for enforcing conformity like Noam said.

[icemakk]

schools do not prepare you for life, they train you to be a good little tax payer that does not think. PERIOD

[dutytocareforothers]

The emphasis at universities for conformity is definitely wasteful for the paying customer. However, those imposing authority get a great thrill knowing they have created more cold-hearted automatons.

[dutytocareforothers]

Education was worthless and caustic IMHO. Although I was lucky enough to find a different graduate program that wasn't complete garbage. They focused more on learning the subjects and knowledge. That's what education is all about!

[SUpersaiyajinjerkbag]

Everyone thinks they're public schools are bad. The problem with the US is they don't realize that overpriced colleges don't make up for educational flaws anymore than overpriced conformity does.

[barrygreenbank]

@SUpersaiyajinjerkbag

They're is short for they are, you should have wrote, Everyone thinks their public schools are bad. It seams that your school didn't teach English very well.

[FRSFreeState]

The role of our Education System should be to teach people how to think not what to think and how to learn. And then let them figure out based on what is taught to them what the info that they learned means on their own.

[SIMKINETICS]

Brilliant! Chomsky's take on American education is right on the money! What would happen if we taught our children how to use logic & critical thinking, how to tear apart propaganda, how to fix the system of domestic & foreign policy? Wouldn't it be the start of a new age of Enlightenment? Why not demand a new approach, and demand broad support for intensely better public education???

[dutytocareforothers]

@SIMKINETICS That's an excellent idea.

[Cosbibi]

@Mediumtranslator He´s talking about innovation not scoring good on the sciences. That´s simply reproduction, not innovation.

[freddiefernandez]

Looking back, and being a former teacher, I find that public education is simply government mandated babysitting system.

[SUpersaiyajinjerkbag]

@freddiefernandez

Except with bullies and stress and teens who would be slightly less awful in a more libertarian setting

[darkillity]

@freddiefernandez Do you think this also applies to Western European countries like Germany or the UK?

[freddiefernandez]

@darkillity I can't see why it wouldn't. I don't know, it's a necessary evil I suppose. You meet people, you do find some things that interest you, you do meet some inspiring teachers, etc, but you also can't help but feel like you are stuck in a system that you more or less have to just put up with. I'm not even going to try and dive into the realm of educational reform. Bottom line: You are eventually responsible for your own education and what you want to read and write, etc.

[Bloodlovefreak]

I find it surprising that Chomsky would label Japan as not being innovative. 

[SUpersaiyajinjerkbag]

@Bloodlovefreak

Yeah, CHomsky dumbed himself down and is still the best intellectual out there.

[dubified89]

I like the slightly younger Chomsky better

[Arkinight]

23 000 views is not enough.

[Samgurney88]

I am at school still unfortunatley.. practicing dissidency and studying dangerous things like politics and philosophy when I'm supposed to be doing 'citicenship lessons'; or as it is also known 'don't cause any trouble, listen to the infallible advice of the government, do not question you're indoctrination and then you are a good citicen-lessons'.

[PhilosophicalViking]

One word - AUTODIDACT.

[MultiSmartass1]

Chomsky is correct here in noting that that the public schools or what I call mass schools are systems of indoctrination.

They are indoctrinating kids into being fine workers for business and industry which is main objective of public education.

Otherwise, there is no need for public schools. They aren't necessary.

Schools also serve a socializing function-though student government, sports and proms.

Schools create a system of dependency and obediance for people.

[ashleypoo1319]

@MultiSmartass1 very true. I know a girl who attended a really nice private high school, where they were taught fencing and all sorts of things besides basic academics. She got the best high school education I've ever heard of. Lucky her, I had a public high school education in the country :(

[MultiSmartass1]

@ashleypoo1319 That's because private schools provide education and preparation. Preparation is primarily oriented towards getting into colleges but it is preparation just the same.

Public schools don't fail in this country.

They provide an education to millions of children and teenagers.

They simply don't provide preparation.

Then again, that's not their job.

Their job is to gave a basic education to the clerks, janitors and fast food workers of tomorrow. Nothing more or less.

[ashleypoo1319]

@MultiSmartass1 Yes, I know that when/ if I have a child of my own, they won't be attending public school. I support public schools, but in my state, the first thing the state government does when they need money is strip away education revenue. Too large of class sizes, not enough teachers, using sports coaches as teachers. Also, forcing kids to constantly cram for standardized tests. Don't get me started on FCAT in Florida.

[MultiSmartass1]

@ashleypoo1319 That's your choice.

However, my point is larger one and that is that schooling in general-Public in particular serves a function and that is to provide a modicum of information to people who take the varied jobs that actually keep society humming.

The Public schools do not serve as the training ground for doctors, lawyers, architects and other professionals.

[ashleypoo1319]

@MultiSmartass1 yes, and unfortunately, even the public schools aren't graduating people for low income labor jobs well. After all the graduation rates around my state were around 58 percent in 2006. That's only little more than half. The other half takes the jobs no one else wants; customer service, fast food, low paid manual labor and so on. I used to laugh at the class war idea, but now i see how this system is so adamant about keeping people in it's place.

[MultiSmartass1]

@ashleypoo1319 They don't need to.

Just give people an education-no one said it had to be good and there is no provision in US constitution for education.

Class war is not only basic to the US but the UK, India and other nations around the world.

People believe there is no class in the US.

However, there are homeless-they are a class.

There are the poor-they're a class.

There's the working class.

There's the middle class.

There's the ruling class.

Class in America.

[MrSalamander7]

I'm a bit of a narcissist, I'll admit that, but I think the following is true. I was a very intelligent person in high school, much more so than even people that got better grades than me. The reason for this was that I educated myself outside of school. Yes, a teenager rogue scholar can yield better results than the American educational system.

[AtlanticaPhoenix]

We need less school time in public schools in the United States. We also need the time we do spend in school to be less unnecessary nonsense such as 50 similar math problems for homework. Public schools should give more choices and not require a person to dedicate their lives to school to do well. If you want oppressive schools, go to a private school or Japan. You can not force people to build space ships, ony the people that want to will do so.

[d3p3ch3mod3]

75% of what i learned about history i learned from the internet and books and stuff like this.... maybe like 20 % from school and 5% word of mouth

[Itoh2Itoh]

@urdisturbing

I think you will find it is not 80% of intelligence which is genetic but 79.84463563%. Ask the team monitoring your brain/intellectual activity to take another reading, it's important to get these facts right.

[urdisturbing]

AndrewGable

A democracy is a meritocracy, which means the people who are most qualified for the best jobs are the ones who get them (theoretically, at least). That is why education is so important. Also, About 80% of a persons intelligence is genetic, which at least partially explains why people with university degrees usually have kids who get university degrees. I don't see anything wrong with this scenario.

[DonVoghano]

@urdisturbing That would be true if our system approximated democracy. Sadly it's an oligarchy covered by defused democratic institutions. George W. Bush is a pretty damn good example of that. Also throwing % about how much intel comes from genes vs environment is retarded: intelligence, more than any system of the human body, is a reflexive system of complex interactions we can't even begin to comprehend.

[Master1Samsung]

I was skipping my useless classes to focus on my exams and final projects for harder classes. I was caught and the punishment for missing "valuable educational time" is to miss even more school.

Brilliant System!

[youvebeensmoked]

Noam, you're not usually my guy, but this is great!

[ANDREWGABLE1]

There are many problems with the system

1. That an individuals success in this world is inextricably linked to the level of education they have. Thus in many ways their ability to succeed in this world is dependent on the education system

2.) This very system that determines their "success" or quality life - is faulty and not properly preparing them to live in this world.

[MikhailSilverwood]

@ANDREWGABLE1 You're only just scratching the surface.

Notice a contradiction in the 'elite rhetoric': on the one hand, they claim that they're rich and powerful because they worked hard and deserved it.

But they grew up in wealthy families, and got good education, which put them at an unfair comparison to poor working class you and me, so it's no surprise they've succeeded - because they were given more resources.

[ANDREWGABLE1]

@MikhailSilverwood

At desteni we propose an equal money system - the point is to give all of humanity and equal playing field. That starts with the equal money system - Also within this there must be equal education as well. Although without correcting the point with money first equal education will not be possible.

[Molochsbollox]

@MikhailSilverwood That's it. Like Sociopaths spout propaganda to support their case and have shaped the Legal system (especially in an adversarial system) (broken)

[MikhailSilverwood]

@Molochsbollox I have no idea what you're talking about

[Zoukamour]

This is simply beautiful, I wake up every morning feeling like this while my friends cant think of their lives without this stupid school system

[mikeisapro]

"Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school"

The education remains because it is the bad habits (blind obedience to authority, etc) that remain, while the actual material is forgotten because it was not actually LEARNED.

I really have forgotten so much of what I was taught in high school. You learn much more on your own.

[Badwolf182]

schooling is def a sorting house for capitalism/consumerism. They r sorting which cog u will fit into and wat ur function will be. No one questions the idea of work itself?? fuck what happened to our life....

LOVE Chomsky! Why dont we learn this at school!!!!

[MikhailSilverwood]

@Badwolf182

You know what would happen if schools taught Chomsky ... there'd be rebellion, protests, kids asking questions and thinking thoughts, challenging by things are this way and why they aren't different.

The whole structure of capitalism, about oppressing the working class, about alienating individuals, about controlling thoughts and acts, would collapse.

The whole system would be overthrown via a mass rebellion against this f---ed up system.

[Badwolf182]

MikhailSilverwood

Powerful and true words! there really would be a revolution if the truth came out.

[cheeseit126]

PERFECT EXPLANATION

[MrSalamander7]

I remember senior year of high school. You were 18, but you still had no freedom of speech, couldn't wear hats or short skirts, etc. You had to take any amount of verbal bullshit from someone who couldn't think their way out of a paper bag. You were given absurd assignments in absurd amounts with the excuse of "preparing you for college" (even though college is nothing like that). And on. Mindfuck.

[ButherLi55ett]

Schools are shit, there is no democracy and most of it is all copy, paste and memorize. It's an old saying but school truly is a factory, if not a prison!

[MauserBroom]

Chomsky is great. I hate the way that the powers that be in their most recent and ridiculous Climate Change Osama tape deliberately mention Noam as an effort to discredit him..

[cmccarty82]

I think the biggest problem is a lot of educators expect the student to conform to their teaching style when in actuality, the teaching style MUST conform to the student. If they appear "lazy" it's because we as educators are not doing our job to stimulate their thinking.

[thehoopoe]

@cmccarty82

That's simply unreasonable unless you have only 1 pupil. Socialized education cannot provide a personalized experience. When I was little we knew unless you could afford a private tutor, you were not going to get anyone conforming to your anything, so we listened harder.

[ExpressInside]

@thehoopoe My English teacher doesn't make us conform... he tells us to ask questions, form our own opinions and to question anything he says... Therefore he is a tutor to every single individual student; not teaching them waht to think, but how to think.

I can see you are quite retarded, I hope this helped you out.

[saxengee]

@ExpressInside Great do you have the name of that teacher?!! He sounds good..!! I wish I had a teacher like that!... sadly I didn't...

As Chomsky says... There are a few good teachers out there... Who seem to get away with it...

Judging purely from your comment, your most likely on your way to becoming one..

[Badwolf182]

cmccarty82

agreed! i think its abt one size fits all when clearly there r natural aritist and scientist and poets amongst us all. Yet we r all given the one and only set of subjects which dullfies most of us.

The only thing we test is memory at school. Intelligence is diverse. We experience the world thru the abstract, thru sound, visually, kinetically - which all put togther creates a dynamic way that our brains need to be used. Intelleigence is creative and works with all parts!

[thehoopoe]

Chomsky's flaw is that he is overly optimistic about human nature. Most of my students are just plain lazy, they aren't interested in thinking. They may think the assignment is stupid. But that's an excuse to slack off.

[WSidis]

Maybe it's your teaching style. People like to learn interesting things. For you to automatically blame the other guy... it just sounds like something one should easily disregard...

[joemoe23]

A natural reaction to boring is to not pay attention.

[xzile123]

Well, maybe your assignments are stupid. Kids don't become stimulated unless they can be enticed by something, that serves both as a catalyst for personal benefit along with an educational backdrop. Become a better teacher and stop always pinning it on your students. Remember when you were a student and you hated the teacher? Yeah, it was their fault, really.

[Illimitus]

We need more of this from Chomsky.

[LeglessPabloSmithe]

I Wish there was more to this because Chomsky is dead-on about how the system operates.

[Sundrumify]

Thanks so much for this video. It makes my day, while just addressing this topic on my channel. Will be back later. Have a great weekend!!

Lisa

[AFRIKTODAY]

My education began when I drop out of college! I returned and became a TEACHER, educating my PROFESSORS!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[dumaracah]

tank you, mr. Chomsky

[douwejong]

i agree: "the pressure [of the education] to try to support innovation and freedom is much less and the pressure for conformity is much greater"

[Cutieyum4]

I studied Japanese and visited more than 10 years ago. At the university where I was housed, I was astonished about the low awareness of simply biology by the average student and the population as a whole. I don't know much about their high school curriculum, but my classmates at elite schools in the US arrived in college having passed tests on curricula covering cell organelles, basic biochemistry, sociobiology, and environmental science.

[wodnerduck]

japan is highly regarded for scientific development. i don't think he knows what he's talking about.

[maximumsteve]

i don't think you do. he's right on about japan. companies hire foreign workers for that very cause.

[wodnerduck]

i'm a professional chemist. i think i know what i'm talking about.

[maximumsteve]

I'm a professional computer engineer, so what? He's not saying that japanese people are stupid, just that their way of education does not necessarily breed creativity. Rote memorization at cram schools to prepare for entrance exams does not allow a lot of room to think critically.

[AFRIKTODAY]

That's why they copy so much!

[gamma235]

@maximumsteve Culture, ethnic identity and class politics are playing a role in here in Japan. People use being Japanese as an excuse to not change. They say things like "I'm shy BECAUSE I'm Japanese" or "IN JAPAN it's BAD to question authority". These "just so" explanations essentially subvert the working class. And the lack of education about labor and history, i.e. the fact of real political change in Japan over the years, has made it difficult for people to know of anything but compliance.

[sauronthegr8]

This was also made in the 80's. Things have changed since then.

[AFRIKTODAY]

You mean things haven't changed much!

[Lythic]

Liberal arts education teaches critical thinking and to question everything

[gamma235]

@Lythic The only people getting liberal arts degrees in Japan are dis-empowered women. Men only care about getting a job that will enhance their marriage prospects and while these women may be freer thinking, it doesn't matter because they won't be working in the future. There are entire universities devoted to churning out the next generation of housewives. This conformist sentiment is present even at the institutional level and free thinking is discouraged at every level of the society.

[g4paladin]

Couldn't agree more.

[dr1nk1ngm3rcury]

High school was like that. A lot of mindless work that ultimately amounted to nothing.

[spartan2600]

I remember my 5th grade was comprised mostly of my teacher complaining about her husband and making us do crossword puzzles and word-searches.

[R0undAboutMidnight]

My education was certainly like this at school. It was only when I left that my education began.

[MikhailSilverwood]

@R0undAboutMidnight While I was in High School, I hated history, I hated politics and I hated writing and reading.

The moment I left High School, and went to the library to do some reading, I suddenly discovered history to be exciting, politics to be fun and entertaining, and reading and writing to be excellent, intellectual past-times.

[dutytocareforothers]

@MikhailSilverwood I can relate: the library is filled with books by authors who think outside of the pedantic school system. I also hated school and college. It's funny how Chomsky mumbles and grumbled about universities but there he is a part of the big nasty system himself! At least he keeps us somewhat informed: in the most genteel and passive way possible.

[shaunshorn75]

@MikhailSilverwood, politics is fun and entertaining? I bet the invasion of Iraq and all the lies that surrounded it really got you excited, then.

[gsixtysix]

@MikhailSilverwood

Agreed I have learned more off of the internet that is useful as well as innovative than I did in school

beware of anything that is "mandatory"

The educational is a massive waste in talent, money and time. The power brokers talk of change which usually means more discipline, confinement, conformity as time spent at school...the real change should be freedom and allow people to develop critical thinking...it's the last thing the godfathers of this world want

[PUB2BM7T]

@R0undAboutMidnight Could no agree more mate.. The same happened with me. Long live Noam Chomsky and lets December 7 (Mr. Chomsky's birthday) day of the Independant Thinking!

[tropicalmist999]

@R0undAboutMidnight , a profound comment indeed. Well done.

[WOGI5M]

@R0undAboutMidnight Same. 

[mjd1982]

1:55 is completely correct- Oxford is 100% that way.