@gulbirk Oh yeah, I agree w/ that, but what I meant is when it comes to the ballot here in the US, they will list dem, repub, independent and that's usually it. Some states don't even allow to write in a candidates name on the ballot. In Oregon, they list all of those options, plus the green party candidate, the libertarian candidate but not the socialist candidate. Actually I thought I heard one time that NY and VT are the only states that list the socialist candidate on general election ballot
@gulbirk No, not necessarily. Some states such as Nevada will have the candidates on the ballot, but also list an option for "None of the Above". True story---None of the Above almost won in 2008, had it not been for that option on the ballot, and Reid likely would have lost his senate seat. However, it looks like I'll be writing in an option myself here in Oregon in 2012 though. However though, say that in Oregon, if there is a socialist candidate running, they will not be listed on the ballot.
@gulbirk Good question, but no, my brother lives in Nevada and he was telling me that if some year if "None of the Above" won, they just hold another election LOL, but i like the idea--give the states citizens a chance to see who'd they want to win.
Harry Reid ran against a tea crapper in Nevada and he barely beat her. If that wasn't a wake up call for Reid than I don't know what is. I dislike Reid myself because he was just a fuck toy for George W Bush giving him $ for those illegal wars!
@portlanddem Seems like a rather weird electing system. So if 51% of the population votes for "none of the above" you just have to have another election?
Then how can a person in the "none of the above" category win?
@gulbirk haha, good question. I think the point of it, is to allow the voters to rethink their choices, so that eventually, someone who isn't "none of the above" will eventually win. Apparently, it hasn't happened in NV yet, but it almost did in 2010 when Harry Reid ran against Sharon Angle. Nevada for the most part, is an independent state--they vote either to the right or the left ( however usually to the right ) but each candidate seems to have a 50-50 chance of winning/losing.
you gotta be kidding me...and i thought this guy was trying to be independant in his views the obama jobs bill is dumd until he stops the power grab and intimidation tricks...the fed aufdit is coming and we will see how the marbles move and who does what to whom..
obama isn't getting my vote because his bailouts, lying about getting out of war 16 months after he was made president, and lying about closing Guantanamo bay among other things.
NOT because of the stupid ass republicans keeping legislation from passing. I do think they're purposely doing that SO fuck them too.
@DoodWinSauce The bailouts started under bush. Wars, doh, but at least we're getting the hell out of Iraq. Guantanamo Bay he simply did not have the votes. Other things, yeah he sucks. But I'm still voting for him.
@asdfxcxv STARTED under bush but who ended up giving them out? btw WE GOT KICKED OUT OF IRAQ our soldiers no longer have immunity there. They will be prosecuted for any broken laws by the iraqi government. i'm telling you don't vote for Obama. I voted for him in 08 I believed his BS and homeless rose by like 4 or 9 million the unemployment rate went up. He could've given each american like 16k to buy Fords or Chryslers or something. Invigorated small business. u know the back bone of America
@asdfxcxv it's ridiculous ppl are still trying to blame bush. Sure this thing took a turn when he was president but it's been 4 YEARS and not one thing has changed for the better. theres been a whole lot of change alright but who is benefiting from it? Not me. Not any1 i know. Not small business. Not America. I don't understand y people stick up for Obama. I was like that up until 1 month ago when i was watching the news and realized HOLY SHIT THIS GUY HASN'T DONE ANYTHING. then i read into it.
Obama campaigned on infrastructure, and as soon as he was elected, he went for health care. Now he wants infrastructure, but the GOP is so entrenched, they can't see the forest for the trees. GOP is so concerned with abortion, while there are no jobs for their kids, nor are there schools. Just prisons, and that is fine with the GOP. You can't run a gov't like a business, cause business is only concerned with the bottom line. Profits over people, DUH!
Not to mention lack of regulations at the workplace that created disasters like the Triangle fire, where employees had the choice between leaping to heir deaths or burning to death because the company owners hadn't provided an escape route in case of fire. I guess that's okay with Republicans.
@icommentonurstuff B Snders sounds like a communist That bigot Al sharpton needs to be locked in a cage for setting back race relations 50 years. Obama has been an outstanding gun salesman those are jobs.
That's okay Bernie... This position that Republicans have taken of the narrow focus of making Obama a 1 term President driving the economy downward & the unemployment higher will come to bite them in the butt. They have become transparent & it is clear that the only constituents that they care abt are their wealthy donors...They give the fuel to the anger & frustrations that are spreading across this country & globe. So let them & some democrats continue serving their true Masters...
What's the problem? C'mon, just remove all restrictions on businesses and everything'll be fine. Look back before all the labor strikes for crazy notions like an 11 hour work day (and a mere 10 hours on Saturdays, the lazy scum laborers). Everything was great!
I say we go back to before the Silk Mill strike and get children back to work in their 11+ hour shifts, now that'll solve all our problems. Obviously letting businesses do their own thing and allowing the "invisible hand" to guide is best.
@andymcgaha Exactly right ! After we get the children back to work,we can relax after a 75 hour workweek with Dancing With the Stars and revisit the Conrad Murray trial.Maybe middle class people deserve the rape that is going on !
@andymcgaha That is beyond moronic. Do you not remember the oil spills in this country most notably, the ones in Valdez, AK & the Gulf one just recently?
This doesn't even count the falsified mortgage loans & bailouts for corporations because they can't run a damn thing right!
Sen. Sanders hit the nail on the head! The repub party has NO jobs plan. Mitch McConnell said it best himself after 2010 election, "our #1 goal is to defeat President Obama". No jobs, health care, education plans, etc.
500000 black votes thrown out in 2000 election to have court appointed George Bush Jr. proves United States elections are a fraud.
dragonmama12 3 months ago
There is a solution: Vote the bastards out.
seamoremonster 3 months ago
why is he an independent and not a member of the social democrats?
gulbirk 3 months ago
@gulbirk There is no "social democrat" party in this country, that is why.
The repub party is far off the page of reality, and the democratic party has moved to what the republican party was 30 yrs ago.
portlanddem 3 months ago
@portlanddem There is. Google list of political parties in USA. There is a long list of all the parties that exist (source wikepedia)
gulbirk 3 months ago
@gulbirk Oh yeah, I agree w/ that, but what I meant is when it comes to the ballot here in the US, they will list dem, repub, independent and that's usually it. Some states don't even allow to write in a candidates name on the ballot. In Oregon, they list all of those options, plus the green party candidate, the libertarian candidate but not the socialist candidate. Actually I thought I heard one time that NY and VT are the only states that list the socialist candidate on general election ballot
portlanddem 3 months ago
@portlanddem What, are you joking with me?
Is it legal to prevent someone to vote for who ever they want?
gulbirk 3 months ago
@gulbirk No, not necessarily. Some states such as Nevada will have the candidates on the ballot, but also list an option for "None of the Above". True story---None of the Above almost won in 2008, had it not been for that option on the ballot, and Reid likely would have lost his senate seat. However, it looks like I'll be writing in an option myself here in Oregon in 2012 though. However though, say that in Oregon, if there is a socialist candidate running, they will not be listed on the ballot.
portlanddem 3 months ago
@portlanddem Oh, seems a bit unfair. But if you vote none of the above, do you have to right on some other name?
gulbirk 3 months ago
@gulbirk Good question, but no, my brother lives in Nevada and he was telling me that if some year if "None of the Above" won, they just hold another election LOL, but i like the idea--give the states citizens a chance to see who'd they want to win.
Harry Reid ran against a tea crapper in Nevada and he barely beat her. If that wasn't a wake up call for Reid than I don't know what is. I dislike Reid myself because he was just a fuck toy for George W Bush giving him $ for those illegal wars!
portlanddem 3 months ago
@portlanddem Seems like a rather weird electing system. So if 51% of the population votes for "none of the above" you just have to have another election?
Then how can a person in the "none of the above" category win?
gulbirk 3 months ago
@gulbirk haha, good question. I think the point of it, is to allow the voters to rethink their choices, so that eventually, someone who isn't "none of the above" will eventually win. Apparently, it hasn't happened in NV yet, but it almost did in 2010 when Harry Reid ran against Sharon Angle. Nevada for the most part, is an independent state--they vote either to the right or the left ( however usually to the right ) but each candidate seems to have a 50-50 chance of winning/losing.
portlanddem 2 months ago
you gotta be kidding me...and i thought this guy was trying to be independant in his views the obama jobs bill is dumd until he stops the power grab and intimidation tricks...the fed aufdit is coming and we will see how the marbles move and who does what to whom..
DMChoreographer 3 months ago
A President isn't supposed to create jobs, he is supposed to make it possible for a strong economic atmosphere. Ron Paul.
ceasey0xoogurl 3 months ago
Senator...Why would the Republicans want to get people back to work??? If they did, they'd have NOTHING to get Obama out in 2012...
DsmB2007 4 months ago
obama isn't getting my vote because his bailouts, lying about getting out of war 16 months after he was made president, and lying about closing Guantanamo bay among other things.
NOT because of the stupid ass republicans keeping legislation from passing. I do think they're purposely doing that SO fuck them too.
DoodWinSauce 4 months ago
@DoodWinSauce The bailouts started under bush. Wars, doh, but at least we're getting the hell out of Iraq. Guantanamo Bay he simply did not have the votes. Other things, yeah he sucks. But I'm still voting for him.
asdfxcxv 4 months ago
@asdfxcxv STARTED under bush but who ended up giving them out? btw WE GOT KICKED OUT OF IRAQ our soldiers no longer have immunity there. They will be prosecuted for any broken laws by the iraqi government. i'm telling you don't vote for Obama. I voted for him in 08 I believed his BS and homeless rose by like 4 or 9 million the unemployment rate went up. He could've given each american like 16k to buy Fords or Chryslers or something. Invigorated small business. u know the back bone of America
DoodWinSauce 4 months ago
@asdfxcxv it's ridiculous ppl are still trying to blame bush. Sure this thing took a turn when he was president but it's been 4 YEARS and not one thing has changed for the better. theres been a whole lot of change alright but who is benefiting from it? Not me. Not any1 i know. Not small business. Not America. I don't understand y people stick up for Obama. I was like that up until 1 month ago when i was watching the news and realized HOLY SHIT THIS GUY HASN'T DONE ANYTHING. then i read into it.
DoodWinSauce 4 months ago
I have a man crush on Bernie. I truly love this guy. He's a fighter, he's a REAL politician.
omolivera 4 months ago 4
@omolivera hell yeah he is. he doesn't get the attn he deserves either.
DoodWinSauce 4 months ago
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rickbar123 4 months ago
Obama campaigned on infrastructure, and as soon as he was elected, he went for health care. Now he wants infrastructure, but the GOP is so entrenched, they can't see the forest for the trees. GOP is so concerned with abortion, while there are no jobs for their kids, nor are there schools. Just prisons, and that is fine with the GOP. You can't run a gov't like a business, cause business is only concerned with the bottom line. Profits over people, DUH!
ChunxOfEarth 4 months ago
Not to mention lack of regulations at the workplace that created disasters like the Triangle fire, where employees had the choice between leaping to heir deaths or burning to death because the company owners hadn't provided an escape route in case of fire. I guess that's okay with Republicans.
judyleasugar97 4 months ago
BERNIE SANDERS FOR PRESIDENT!
icommentonurstuff 4 months ago 24
@icommentonurstuff B Snders sounds like a communist That bigot Al sharpton needs to be locked in a cage for setting back race relations 50 years. Obama has been an outstanding gun salesman those are jobs.
AthenasConquest 2 months ago
That's okay Bernie... This position that Republicans have taken of the narrow focus of making Obama a 1 term President driving the economy downward & the unemployment higher will come to bite them in the butt. They have become transparent & it is clear that the only constituents that they care abt are their wealthy donors...They give the fuel to the anger & frustrations that are spreading across this country & globe. So let them & some democrats continue serving their true Masters...
braithmorgan 4 months ago
What's the problem? C'mon, just remove all restrictions on businesses and everything'll be fine. Look back before all the labor strikes for crazy notions like an 11 hour work day (and a mere 10 hours on Saturdays, the lazy scum laborers). Everything was great!
I say we go back to before the Silk Mill strike and get children back to work in their 11+ hour shifts, now that'll solve all our problems. Obviously letting businesses do their own thing and allowing the "invisible hand" to guide is best.
andymcgaha 4 months ago 17
@andymcgaha Exactly right ! After we get the children back to work,we can relax after a 75 hour workweek with Dancing With the Stars and revisit the Conrad Murray trial.Maybe middle class people deserve the rape that is going on !
justcallmeassinine 4 months ago
@andymcgaha That is beyond moronic. Do you not remember the oil spills in this country most notably, the ones in Valdez, AK & the Gulf one just recently?
This doesn't even count the falsified mortgage loans & bailouts for corporations because they can't run a damn thing right!
Sen. Sanders hit the nail on the head! The repub party has NO jobs plan. Mitch McConnell said it best himself after 2010 election, "our #1 goal is to defeat President Obama". No jobs, health care, education plans, etc.
portlanddem 3 months ago
@portlanddem
Visit your local public library and ask for a dictionary and look up the word "satire."
andymcgaha 3 months ago
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rickbar123 4 months ago
@rickbar123 The Poles sure hate Free Trade.
atosafi1 4 months ago 3
@atosafi1 Damn Poles...
TheRacistsMustDie 4 months ago
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rickbar123 4 months ago
Mr. Sanders, you are, as always, 100% Correct. Thanks for doing such a good job in the Senate.
crewkid52 4 months ago 7
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Bernie For President!
codmod55 4 months ago