Why is it people take this YouTube shit so seriously ?Why would anyone be so angry?Its just ideas from people who value free speech.Thats really it.If Jarrah is wrong debate it out.If Jarrahs right still Debate it out.But i do have a serious piece of advise for Jarrah.People have been killed because of things said on youtube and other forums.Jarrah for you and your families safety Buy and learn how to use a weapon.And anyone who agrees and disagrees with J.W. Tell Webb to stop its gone far enuff
The second part of your sentence does not naturally follow from the first part of your sentence so I can't say I agree.
I say my White videos were not "debunk videos" per se because the goal was not to "prove him wrong". The goal of my videos as I stated in them was to point out the errors in the critical thinking shown in the vids.
I have no idea what "most of his topics" are. so I can't speak to whether or not I would "support" him.
@brabrown30brabrown30 I explain how in the video comments. You can use the website zamzar to download this video as an mpg, avi or whatever, and then you upload the file to your own Youtube account.
@moonhoaxlunatic1 that ones obvious, they are letters from the united states, I.would say that federal matters go with the federal police... Not speaking jarrah here, however that could be a possibility.
@Piece0fShit05 The value of pi is irrelevant to the subject at hand, which is the fact that I am being stalked by a psychopath, and has no bearing on the moon landing hoax.
The only Rene book that is sold out is his 911 book, which is still the intellectual property of Rorke. You obviously are bad at honesty.
@Piece0fShit06 You sir are either grossly mistaken or a bad liar. The site has not been changed in months. The "available materials" section did not say "sold out". With the exception of the 911 booklet, all of Rene's books are still in stock. In fact just last week I was printing copies of the moon book. Vincent McConnell will verify this - I was Facebook chatting with him to pass the time while the pages printed.
All future sockpuppets you create will be reported to Youtube.
discussion with JW going "aaah, I seeee, thank you guys for teaching me math!"?
You've been discussing for YEARS about bullshit like minerals in moonrocks and millirems of radiation, but you just silently shift your whole scientific paradigm without discussing THAT?
I have a creepy suspicion: Maybe this is what it looks like when a CT *learns* (shiver)
""stalked by a psychopath""
If a psychopath had your address, we'd all have it by now. And we already know
You've been denying it for years. You made a video denying it. Others made videos trying to convince you and your conspiracy bedlam, without success. You've been keeping up Rene's website so the world can keep on laughing at your dead "friend". You've been selling Rene's books claiming Pi has a value of 3.146..
Now you have the frigging nerve to announce you don't "pursue" Rene's theories anymore? When did you change your mind? When where you going to tell us? Has anyone witnessed a
""The value of Pi is irrelevant to the subject at hand""
OK, I repeated the question at your video "Gaddy's Pi", answer it there.
Your narcissism and your grandiose delusion about having some "secret insight" in science and your fulltime occupation of flooding YouTube with crappy logic and hypocrisy is what makes people want to stalk you in the first place.
Pi is never irrelevant when talking about science. It's an indisputable part of reality. Denying it is madness.
@NASAvsPETE1 I see that you derive your fanciful claims that the LRO team "superimposed" the landers and tracks from remarks made by Mark Robinson in this video from Jarrah watch?v=z6Q1qInqHk8 from which you are taking Mark's comments out of context. Mark uses the term "superimpose" to indicate that the bright halo was created first, and that the tracks atop of the halo were subsequently created by the astronauts during their EVA activities.
@CharlieNoWhisper Again a bIas and subjective answer to fit your own criterion, transparent to say the least, JW would make an excellent 60 minutes reporter.
Incidentally, I agree that the timing of all this might well be a response to the fact that Greater Sapien tore such a massive hole in your critical thinking that you, unable to respond in any way meaningful , have chosen to change the subject.
Are you planning a video response to his demoliton of your Radioactive Fallacy or are you going to quietly wish that that one just quietly goes away?
greatersapien didn't fo anything of the sort. He just another tired guy with too much time on his hand that after clearly stating that he don't give a fuck about the moon landing, and that he is convinced that they were real because "all the relevant questions have been answered" according to him (since he don't give a fuck about it, I didn't even asked him which question he had in mind, since he's just fooling himself at best or plain lying)
@AstroClownBuster 'I didn't even asked him which question he had in mind'
Ah, so stating that 'You' didn't even ask him which question he had in mind is an admission that you and Jarrah are one and the same person? Bit of a slip there Jarrah.
Nope, just another point of view on this greatersapien, and as I was writing it, I got hit by the message lenght limit and got bored to continue it on another post or rephrase it.
I wanted to add he's lying on the intent that he pretended WJ had, he know it, WJ give the range and THEN continue with indeed the higher value, but the fact that he given the range is enough to demonstrate that his intent was not to pretend only the higher value could be taken into account.
Nice try. If that were true he wouldn't have doubled down on his claims when the errors were pointed out.
No. White was claiming the trip was IMPOSSIBLE because the astros WOULD encounter "X" amount of radiation. He used a common method of seeding the videos with facts in order to lend credence to his claims. He may not be aware of this tendency because that's just the way his mind works. His supporters obviously aren't aware of it because they tout his conclusions as factual.
He said this, after having exposed his point of view on the reason he go with the higher value, he had given the ranges, and the source of these range (and no, ZERO don't exist as far as radiation taken, in space, on such ridiculous shielding)
@GreaterSapien (chuckle)... He just did the same thing Jarrah did, only in the other direction. You were talking about the zero to ten range and he's arguing like you only said zero.
And again, I'm not WJ, I never was WJ and never will be; as incredible as it can sound for you, someone else than himself can see clear in your fucking systematic attempts at painting him as some kind of evil foolish and dumb deceiver, when in reality he's just a guy taking quite the ambitious task of trying to expose the apollo fraud, the best he can, and from what I can see, with sincerity, despite some errors that are anyway expected on such a task!
But to your point, I actually did a fairly good job, in my response to White's response to my video, of laying out clearly the flaws and fallacies inherent in White's methodology.
I am genuinely looking forward to White's video response which he said was forthcoming.
I'm not lying when I say I find this topic a great example of critical thinking errors which is of greater interest to me than convincing conspiracists.
You think you did a good job, and you certainly won the passionate kisses and cheers of the pack of degenerates that are so quick at reveling on any possible WJ demise! But all I saw, was someone inventing a situation in which WJ was deliberately trying to mislead his audience, which is blatantly false, as he had given the range and ANYONE could judge whether or not WJ continuation with the highest value of this range, and HIS conclusion, for themselves.
I actually don't recall in my original criticism saying he was deliberately trying to mislead his audience. My claim was that he was making errors and assumptions of fact and falsely basing his conclusions on said assumptions.
He obviously doesn't see the problem with that, so the person being deceived is himself, though it's obviously unintentional.
To some, errors like this aren't apparent, so I pointed them out, so ANYONE could see them and go from there.
True, not word for word, but it's what you strongly insinuate in your comparison of what he can and can't say, which by the standard you describe in your video, which lead to him having said something that he "wasn't allowed" to say (allowed by the 'authority' of your standard in this case, that don't take into account the context in which he said this)
Face it, you are just a bored attention seeker, and detected in the moon hoax stuff (that you don't give a flying fuck about) a potential higher audience than your usual subjets gave you. Notice it is your right and I don't blame you for this, just that it's just what it is there.
"Face it, you are just a bored attention seeker, and detected in the moon hoax stuff (that you don't give a flying fuck about) a potential higher audience than your usual subjets gave you. Notice it is your right and I don't blame you for this, just that it's just what it is there."
As I have said before, what I find in moon hoax stuff (which was 1 of my first 2 videos I put out on the same day) is a plethora of examples of flawed thinking and evidence presentation.
You can categorize me all you want if that helps you ignore the light I'm shining on your beloved subject.
I like how my saying "it bores me" and "I don't care about that" has become "don't give a flying fuck." So emotional! I don't recall saying that... Maybe I did... Seems harsh though...
Not everyone know that your mind is already all set on the subject, and that you ultimately are not interested in this subject, I don't say you hide this, but don't be surprised if what you try to conform to your standards at times reveal your bias.
Everybody has a bias, whether they choose to acknowledge it or not. I'm old enough and have because self-aware enough to be think around my bias most of the time. But at no time do I try to hide my position, so at no time am I surprised when people point it out.
I have a new series of videos that will (if I do them correctly) shed light on my own errors in thinking, not just look outward.
@CharlieNoWhisper Stealth Videos for "public" broadcast are used all the time even on program's like 60 minutes, sending a private unsolicited letter to your opponent is "stalking", big difference.
@NASAvsPETE1 I was responding to your comment about Jarrah's behavior with Savage and Plait and whether or not it was stalking. My comment didn't have anything to do with Phil Webb.
Given his ego, Jarrah likes to think he is on a par with "60 Minutes," but "60 Minutes" uses real investigative journalists investigating real fraud and crime. Neither is the case with White.
Russians beat your ugly yankee asses by being *first in space* and making the *first space walk* (yes, Leonov was first, not Ed White, unlike the lies that Russophobes spread).
@Thorzanek The Americans were the first to rendezvous and dock in space. That's what made the difference. In the meantime, their N2 rocket just wasn't in the same class as the Saturn V.
While the Soviets were grabbing headlines for things like the first woman in space, we were unglamorously preparing to go to the moon.
@Tweekerhead Private vs public do you see the difference ? It's obvious... Oh dear this troll better get his head into the legal books, doyou know the difference between assault and battery,?... Same concept , one is slightly more aggressive.
@Tweekerhead Did you see that the birthday card was to "Grandson?"
That cracked me up. Jarrah HAD to get a chuckle out of that. Or do you suppose he was born without the humor gene? Maybe it was like, "Oh my god! That filthy criminal propagandist knows my BIRTHDAY! ... MOMEEEEEE!!!"
@Tweekerhead I think that YouTube Internet medium is ok to make an assumption where someones house is because it's public, a "private letter" is for no one else's viewing and thus deemed as "stalking", big difference.
@NASAvsPETE1 That is utter hyposcricy, like I said, at least Philweb59 didn't make a video showing where Phil's address & picture of his house trying to solicite or provoke who knows what from his legoins of brain-less lemmings.
Seem you hoaxers have a double standard as well as a weird sense of self entitlement.
So when did sending a Chritmas or birthday card become stalking?
@Tweekerhead This is gold. I can think of no-one more suited or better qualified to be White's defenders here than either NasavsPete, or Astroclownbuster.
@Tweekerhead It's a gas. When the part about the car came up I nearly pissed myself laughing.
I also love the photo White chose to open with. It's super classy. The mustache, the legs. I just can't figure out now if this has all shifted over the divide into parody. It's difficult to tell.
@krisdevalle "I also love the photo White chose to open with. It's super classy. The mustache, the legs. I just can't figure out now if this has all shifted over the divide into parody. It's difficult to tell. "
You don't have enough lucidity to perceive who is lucid or not. I'm not WJ, and If it wasn't for some part of his moon landing hoax exposure, I don't know if I had anything to agree with him on, we are very different, and suggesting that we are the same person is laughable, so thanks for the laughs tweeker.
You guys in the other hands, are very mych alike, all endoctrined intellectual midgets that will always remain in the dark, thinking that they spread the 'truth'.
@AstroClownBuster Tweekerhead's not the only one who suspects that you and Jarrah are one and the same. The nature of your mis-types is highly suspect for one thing, like someone trying too hard. You've mentioned things that are usually the exclusive province of Jarrah's deep core 'research'. That and the fact that you argue the toss with the same petulant dismissal of facts. I think its a good bet you could be a nasty Mr Hyde to Jarrah's amusing attempt at a Dr Jekyll.
@Tweekerhead Ooh! Ooh! (waving hand frantically), I know!! RADIATION! Deadly, I mean really, REALLY deadly radiation...all up there in those van halen belts. Like 5000 MEV protinoes! At NEAR LIGHT speed!!!! It would fry those astro-NOTS, (I love that), like crispy bacon. lololololo hahahahah
Disclaimer: turtles, flies, grubs, bacteria, and sensitive electronic circuits are immune.
@NASAvsPETE1 The location of someone's house is NOT public information on YouTube. And like all good hoaxheads you conveniently left out critical information: that Jarrah posted the man's real name, occupation, and picture, declaring his intent to reveal more.
He should have been banned from YouTube for that, but the guy was nice and just asked Jarrah to remove the video.
@WhiteJarrah I really would love to get hold of that other book from rene, I believe you couldn't acquire it for some reason, this book hold they key and I'd bet it's safely guarded.
Philwebb59 sending letters is of course not very smart.It is like giving a loaded gun to a kid.
However wining about the fact that you got a letter and play the victim like you have no balls, means that you sound like a wussy and playing the wussy is is not very attractive if you ever want to get a date.
If you want to get laid, the revoke the wining clips, show that you are a real man that will not faint from a simple postcard and stand your ground by proving that NASA is a hoax.
@GlowWorm1962 Well GTP made the attempt to convince everyone, I won't take this valiant effort away from him, its just that what he. Is deconvolving is fake, as per the LRO teams. Admission, they superimposed the tracks in, jw has a video on this. You may want to watch, and no I don't "fuck" with people just seek the truth, nothing wrong with that. Is there ?
Jarrah, have you considered that Phil's rather innocuous behavior might have been in response to your brazen attempt to reveal Luke's identity on YouTube, and it was just his way of saying, "Two can play at that game"? At least he made no indication that he was going to publicly expose your private information on YouTube.
BTW, did you ever ask him to stop mailing you?
Anyway, if he wasn't sure if he had the right address, he knows it now, doesn't he? (Not that he would ever do anything with it.)
It could just be some people you now who are playing a prank on you, I also read some of the letters and they have been possetive so he might be trying to apologize and be nice.
It looks interesting: "Perceived Anomalies in the Apollo Lunar Surface Images" April 4th.
Marcus Allen (Nexus Magazine) will present his theories of anomalies in the photos and then he will be followed Jerry Stone (British Interplanetary Society) who will counter his claims.
So it's not so much a lecture "explaining how Project Apollo was a fake", but a point-counterpoint on the photography issue.
Endless squirming from you and ClownBuster (assuming that you are two distinct individuals) doesn't change the fact that your Luke stalking video ends with you saying, 'I now have his voice, I also have this street scene here which is probably his home address - let's see if they'll match up with anything...' This could EASILY be seen as a veiled threat especially when the music you choose to end the piece on includes the lyrics, 'Let the hunter be the hunted!' You don't have a leg to stand on.
In other words, he didn't even made clear that these were indeed the same person, he was pondering about it based on the information he got. If you had a brain, you'll realize you are the one not having a leg to stand on, especially when it's clear you try to justify philwebb59 method with that!
@AstroClownBuster I certainly am not trying to justify the letters you received. What I and others here are attempting to do is have you own up to the fact that your own cyberstalking of Luke was just that and also reprehensible behaviour. You cannot possibly argue that (whether you sent letters or not) your own behaviour was acceptable, Jarrah. It patently was not and your childish, petulant inability to admit is outrageous and hypocritical. And you wonder why people have a problem with you!
The hard fact is, that WJ didn't determined whether or not this person was or not the individual he thought he could be; based on a joke name that was given by the person in question. He was in a situation that coudl've put himself revealing personal info about, facelessdimmension 'luke', but it turned not be the case, and you can only suppose that it would have been the case, you can't even be certain of this, had he found any correlation.
@AstroClownBuster No, and that is not the point. The point is that he jumped on the possibility to reveal someones name and home address and made a video showing everyone what he found. I think both Jarrah and Phil has done some shitty moves. What's funny is that when it happens to Jarrah, he's suddenly the innocent victim.
Yeah he was irritated by this guy who pretended to be a lecturer on the 'authenticity of apollo' and was relentlessly asking irrelevant questions and being an arrogant faceless coward, that he missed the joke name completly and indeed jumped on the possibility to be in a situation to eventually be able to reveal personal information about him (about the mysterious 'apollo authenticity lecturer' jackass that is), Which wasn't the case.
Here philwebb59 didn't stop at the possibility to be in position of sending WJ unsollicited letters, he did it. I don't say WJ pulled out video was a demonstration of elegance, but you can't ignore that in one situation nothing happened, just a bubble that burst at best, and in the other situation WJ is receiving undesired mail at his home adress.
Where? I know he said he was a physicist and he may have said something about lecturing, but I don't remember him saying anything about giving lectures on the authenticity of Apollo.
@AstroClownBuster Legally speaking, it doesn't matter what White or his defenders think. It matters what a jury or a judge would think. White's behavior was clearly hostile and his intent to reveal more of Dr. H's personal information was clear. Phil's actions were of a very different character. There was no hostility and no indication that he was going to publicly reveal anything.
White was very lucky that his innocent victim didn't pursue action against him.
Legally speaking, it doesn't matter what a faceless coward like you, that just created his yt account today, with the motive to go spit a sick twist on moral and legality, in WJ latest video thread, while conforting your poor faceless cowards friends on their equally sick view/understanding of the situation exposed in this video.
I can plainly see the hostility and provocation that philwebb59 who is obsessed by WJ, can induce through these letters.
It's even smaller than that, he was in fact in a situation that he could perceive as being potentially able to reveal personal stuff about this person, because this person was from the start fully aware that the name he had given was bogus, so you can't even pretend, that 'luke' had any problem with this situation as far as his privacy is concerned! You guys lack the ability to get the full picture, it's showing...
@AstroClownBuster The full picture is that Jarrah's actions caused an innocent person to have his privacy invaded. If Jarrah didn't recognise he was at fault then why did he apologies? Twist away all you like, what Jarrah did was wrong plain and simple. You keep making out it his behaviour was somehow acceptable. It wasn't. How would you like it if someone had named you in connection with something you had nothing to do with then plastered a photo of YOUR home address on the internet?
Invaded in which way? WJ was undecided as to whether or not this person adress had any relevance. Has this person received letters or postcard, phonecalls or emails, from 'angry conspiracy theorists' ? Was 'luke' ever remotely endangered in the protection of his privacy by any photos;name or adress that might have transpired?
WJ did apologies to the person that was mistakenly presented through some images, as someone that could've been 'luke'.
@AstroClownBuster Luke didn't have a problem with it. Not for his own sake, anyway. The person who had a problem with it was Dr. H. And it's a good thing he was such a nice guy, because YouTube would DEFINITELY have had a problem with it.
@AstroClownBuster The information he got!? What the hell do you mean, the information he GOT? You mean the information he TRACKED DOWN then posted in a creepy cyber-stalking way? Regardless of whether or not Jarrah then attempted to send letters to the address or not, you cannot possibly deny that what he did was just plain wrong. He knows it himself. Why else would he attempt to justify it with the lame excuse that he was concerned for Luke's students?
@Apogee02UK It's not a lame excuse, it's a fact. LQSJ was out of control spewing hatred and hostility through Youtube comments, all the while claiming to be a physics lecturer. Among other things, he said the funeral video was a video of me "emptying a bag of crap into the sea". This should not be tolerated from the teaching staff of any learning environment. If one of my college professors acted like that, I'd get a restraining order and tell the headmaster: "either he goes or I go"
Unfortunately, the joke name that LQSJ used led me to an innocent third party whose name and job description matched LQ’s claimed career and name. As I have stated repeatedly, the mistake was peacefully resolved. I even sent the third party a copy of the revised video to make sure he was fine with it, which he was. What more do you want me to do? Kiss his foot on national television?!
@WhiteJarrah This is like the time you couldn't understand how donating to your own fund wasn't a reassurance that you weren't scamming people! Its like your logic circuit is broken or something. Jarrah, it doesn't matter how the matter was RESOLVED (although as has been said here already YT might well have resolved it differently) its the fact that you did what you did that is the issue here. What is so hard about that that you can't admit it? Are you just not man enough to own up to it?
@AstroClownBuster You won't see any sympathy from the Apollo believers...After what you did or tried to do with Luke. If i was this Michael Hunt...I would've sued your ass, that was the most irresponsible thing you could do, besides make ridiculous videos about the Moon landings.
Fact is...I think you know the landings were real.
The Moon landings were faker than Pam Andersons tits :) There's no one that can deny it. And Jarrah, lots of PANS are asking why no scientists noticed the scam. Last month there was a sour debate because the British Interplanetary Society doubted the Apollo Moon landings.
oh my god you should see Gonetoplaids new video, I feel very ill, he has tried to pan in on the superimposed images that the LRO team made clear that the tracks were "superimposed" onto the images. I feel sick to think that they were real..where is my vomit bag, please somebody!!.. in addition now these areas are "no fly zones" to 3rd parties, ie not even Japan can take images now. This makes no difference because Jaxa Selene was NEVER able to take an image of a lem or rover..thanks Bart & JW.
Desperate to weazle your way out of this, aren't you?
Tell us: when you're doing exams for your "BSc in Astrophysics", do you use Gaddi's "new improved" Pi (as it is suggested by Rene's website that has your name all over it) ?
--Let me guess: You're not using it, but you're OPEN to it (snerk).--
Or are you still "ultimately undecided"? Then could you please pass my question on to the
""anonymous physicist"", who's "book sales" you are "handling"?
@AndreasZ05 The only ones trying to weasel out are you trolls dodging the fact that Webb illegally obtained my contact details and has been harassing me for almost a year. It seems after a week of silence, Webb has confessed to sending those letters. See the comment he posted: watch?v=pbw60eeyPdU
It'll be interesting to see how long you can continue to dodge it now.
"Jarrah, you're a piece of gold."
Good. It beats being a piece of shit like you any day. Goodbye and good riddance.
@WhiteJarrah "The only ones trying to weasel out are you trolls dodging the fact that Webb illegally obtained my contact details and has been harassing me for almost a year."
Is it illegal to find out someones contact details? I've never heard of such a thing.
Where you trying to obtain Lukes contact details illegally then?
@rawmonkno1 I think one big difference is what someone does with that information. Jarrah was clearly trying to expose Luke on YouTube and got the wrong person. He posted his name and profession and was determined to reveal other personal information: "Let's see what turns up."
To my knowledge, PhilWebb59 never gave anyone any of White's personal information and gave no indications of hostile intent, unlike what White did concerning Luke.
@CharlieNoWhisper Yes I know, I was just acknowledging the fact that some people could interpret what Phil did as harassment. My impression is that Phil didn't do anything more than joking with Jarrah. The problem comes when the receiver is so paranoid that he thinks there's an ulterior motive behind it.
@rawmonkno1 I can also see how someone might perceive Phil's actions. But you and I would consider motive and character of those actions, where the Jarrah group would not. And for good reason.
If it went to court, I think it would end up with a judgment for the plaintiff for maybe $20 and the judge would tell Phil not to send him any more mail.
@WhiteJarrah Hey Jarrah, or Jack whatever your name is.... Be glad that PhilWebb59 didn't post your address, real name and picture of your house on one of his videos!!
@AndreasZ05 Can I just intrude here? Rene found an almost perfect match to the algebraic value of pi (π), its documented in another one of his papers which others have not yet seen. In addition to this there is more evidence to the effect that Ralph Rene was 100% correct in his findings. I have to say now that the original papers Jarrah holds exclusively, made by Ralph are worth Squillions!
Just out of interest, why has Jarrah made it impossible to read the contents of the letter? He's normally so careful to make things nice and legible. In the same way he's had no problem posting pictures of what he thinks is the home address of his opponents. Could it be that the contents of the letter are incontrovertibly benign? But he's kicked up a fuss about it anyway to generate sympathy? Come on, Jarrah, if this stuff is so threatening why don't you post it? It can only do your case good.
Why is it people take this YouTube shit so seriously ?Why would anyone be so angry?Its just ideas from people who value free speech.Thats really it.If Jarrah is wrong debate it out.If Jarrahs right still Debate it out.But i do have a serious piece of advise for Jarrah.People have been killed because of things said on youtube and other forums.Jarrah for you and your families safety Buy and learn how to use a weapon.And anyone who agrees and disagrees with J.W. Tell Webb to stop its gone far enuff
jasrogg 5 days ago
@jasrogg
your right, I was killed too.
staIkervision 4 days ago
@staIkervision How did your parents take it?
jasrogg 4 days ago
watch?v=46wNSD7TlFc
GlowWorm1962 1 week ago
Do you think someone may be harassing you in Phil's name?
Planetar17 2 weeks ago
what a stalking weirdo
yourmajezty 2 weeks ago
@yourmajezty Yeah really what a spoiled self absorbed little twit this "Blunder-from-Down-Under" is..
watch?v=Uy_T6zPV83k&
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The hypocrisy is amazing.
Tweekerhead 2 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien Hmmm interesting.
NASAvsPETE1 2 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1
Yes, very...
GreaterSapien 2 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien Well you did say your videos were not in the "debunk" category which means that you might support jarrah on most of his topics, agree?
NASAvsPETE1 2 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1
The second part of your sentence does not naturally follow from the first part of your sentence so I can't say I agree.
I say my White videos were not "debunk videos" per se because the goal was not to "prove him wrong". The goal of my videos as I stated in them was to point out the errors in the critical thinking shown in the vids.
I have no idea what "most of his topics" are. so I can't speak to whether or not I would "support" him.
GreaterSapien 2 weeks ago
hey GreaterSapien please use keepvid.org as well to mirror! its free
NASAvsPETE1 2 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1
I have no desire to mirror, I believe you are addressing the wrong guy.
GreaterSapien 2 weeks ago
how do I mirror?
brabrown30brabrown30 2 weeks ago
@brabrown30brabrown30 I explain how in the video comments. You can use the website zamzar to download this video as an mpg, avi or whatever, and then you upload the file to your own Youtube account.
WhiteJarrah 2 weeks ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 that ones obvious, they are letters from the united states, I.would say that federal matters go with the federal police... Not speaking jarrah here, however that could be a possibility.
NASAvsPETE1 2 weeks ago
@GoneToPlaid No I don't see it that way,all tracks were superimposed on to the model.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah
Interesting: When I asked you about your own attitude towards "Gaddy's/René's Pi" (which is a legimitate question since you're promoting that crap),
you called me a "piece of shit" and wished me "good riddance".
Now suddenly these books are "sold out"!
Of course, this doesn't have to mean anything, but it's "hard to ignore the coincidence".
Looks like you have some "riddance" going on yourself. Grandpa has become too embarrasing to show around in public, you piece of gold
Piece0fShit05 3 weeks ago
@Piece0fShit05
Well said.
Kudos.
moonhoaxlunatic1 3 weeks ago
@Piece0fShit05 The value of pi is irrelevant to the subject at hand, which is the fact that I am being stalked by a psychopath, and has no bearing on the moon landing hoax.
The only Rene book that is sold out is his 911 book, which is still the intellectual property of Rorke. You obviously are bad at honesty.
WhiteJarrah 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah Philwebb is a psychopath because he disagrees with you or because he has refuted your pseudo-science claims?
Can't blame him, some people have an affinity for math & science, they like to see it configured & conveyed correctly. ;-)
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah
So this Philweb is a stalking psychopath? Wow.. exactly what did he do that made the local police not wanting to make a report?
moonhoaxlunatic1 2 weeks ago
that YOU wouldn't hesitate to give your opponent's address to the public.
Implying that someone tried to run you over with a car is much more of a crime than writing nice postcards. And, of course, it's paranoid.
""the only Rene book that is sold out is...""
Wrong, the page "materials available" said "sold out", nothing more. You fixed it a few hours ago.
""You obviously are bad at honesty""
In fact, I'm currently doing my BSc in honesty and I have an honesty-quotient of 150.
Piece0fShit06 2 weeks ago
@Piece0fShit06 You sir are either grossly mistaken or a bad liar. The site has not been changed in months. The "available materials" section did not say "sold out". With the exception of the 911 booklet, all of Rene's books are still in stock. In fact just last week I was printing copies of the moon book. Vincent McConnell will verify this - I was Facebook chatting with him to pass the time while the pages printed.
All future sockpuppets you create will be reported to Youtube.
WhiteJarrah 2 weeks ago
discussion with JW going "aaah, I seeee, thank you guys for teaching me math!"?
You've been discussing for YEARS about bullshit like minerals in moonrocks and millirems of radiation, but you just silently shift your whole scientific paradigm without discussing THAT?
I have a creepy suspicion: Maybe this is what it looks like when a CT *learns* (shiver)
""stalked by a psychopath""
If a psychopath had your address, we'd all have it by now. And we already know
Piece0fShit06 2 weeks ago
You've been denying it for years. You made a video denying it. Others made videos trying to convince you and your conspiracy bedlam, without success. You've been keeping up Rene's website so the world can keep on laughing at your dead "friend". You've been selling Rene's books claiming Pi has a value of 3.146..
Now you have the frigging nerve to announce you don't "pursue" Rene's theories anymore? When did you change your mind? When where you going to tell us? Has anyone witnessed a
Piece0fShit06 2 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah
""The value of Pi is irrelevant to the subject at hand""
OK, I repeated the question at your video "Gaddy's Pi", answer it there.
Your narcissism and your grandiose delusion about having some "secret insight" in science and your fulltime occupation of flooding YouTube with crappy logic and hypocrisy is what makes people want to stalk you in the first place.
Pi is never irrelevant when talking about science. It's an indisputable part of reality. Denying it is madness.
Piece0fShit06 2 weeks ago
@Piece0fShit05
Andreas, Du bist einfach nur peinlich.
schiller2222 2 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper Please refer to one of jws videos and his interview with the LRO team manager.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 I see that you derive your fanciful claims that the LRO team "superimposed" the landers and tracks from remarks made by Mark Robinson in this video from Jarrah watch?v=z6Q1qInqHk8 from which you are taking Mark's comments out of context. Mark uses the term "superimpose" to indicate that the bright halo was created first, and that the tracks atop of the halo were subsequently created by the astronauts during their EVA activities.
GoneToPlaid 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper Again a bIas and subjective answer to fit your own criterion, transparent to say the least, JW would make an excellent 60 minutes reporter.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@krisdevalle Yes I guess that as far as your advice will ever really extend, sad really.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
I don't think you people are treating this with the gravitas it deserves. There was an attempt on his LIFE.
Who would amuse us with nutty claims if White were gone? Would we have to start in on HAARP crazies?
krisdevalle 3 weeks ago
@krisdevalle hahah ..Yeah, you're right' we should be more serious.
Let's have some reverence for this hoaxtard.
Where's ya' alls' decency?
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead I for one would like to offer the useful advice to look both ways before crossing the street.
krisdevalle 3 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien Yeh well we have a life line for Apollo believers, when they realise it wasn't real we can pick up the pieces... Up to you ?
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1
Yeah, that'll happen...
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 Which do you think will come first, proof that Apollo was fake or Nibiru?
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien Yes that's good you focus on your errors if you need any advice feel free to pm me.... Bias can do awful things.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1
Yeah, that'll happen...
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper Just as I thought a stalking birthday card.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
Incidentally, I agree that the timing of all this might well be a response to the fact that Greater Sapien tore such a massive hole in your critical thinking that you, unable to respond in any way meaningful , have chosen to change the subject.
Are you planning a video response to his demoliton of your Radioactive Fallacy or are you going to quietly wish that that one just quietly goes away?
Apogee02UK 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK
greatersapien didn't fo anything of the sort. He just another tired guy with too much time on his hand that after clearly stating that he don't give a fuck about the moon landing, and that he is convinced that they were real because "all the relevant questions have been answered" according to him (since he don't give a fuck about it, I didn't even asked him which question he had in mind, since he's just fooling himself at best or plain lying)
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster 'I didn't even asked him which question he had in mind'
Ah, so stating that 'You' didn't even ask him which question he had in mind is an admission that you and Jarrah are one and the same person? Bit of a slip there Jarrah.
Apogee02UK 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK
Nope, just another point of view on this greatersapien, and as I was writing it, I got hit by the message lenght limit and got bored to continue it on another post or rephrase it.
I wanted to add he's lying on the intent that he pretended WJ had, he know it, WJ give the range and THEN continue with indeed the higher value, but the fact that he given the range is enough to demonstrate that his intent was not to pretend only the higher value could be taken into account.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster
Nice try. If that were true he wouldn't have doubled down on his claims when the errors were pointed out.
No. White was claiming the trip was IMPOSSIBLE because the astros WOULD encounter "X" amount of radiation. He used a common method of seeding the videos with facts in order to lend credence to his claims. He may not be aware of this tendency because that's just the way his mind works. His supporters obviously aren't aware of it because they tout his conclusions as factual.
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien
He said this, after having exposed his point of view on the reason he go with the higher value, he had given the ranges, and the source of these range (and no, ZERO don't exist as far as radiation taken, in space, on such ridiculous shielding)
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster The hull of Apollo had a density rating of 7-8g/cm².
Do you know how to shield against alpha & beta radiation?
It's not like Fukushima in outer space ...OK?
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster
I'm pretty certain I said "Zero to Ten still exists." That's a range which exists. I never said zero existed as a possible outcome.
Man, you are dancing the best you can to make him look good!
It's almost if you feel his standing reflects on you in some way.
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien (chuckle)... He just did the same thing Jarrah did, only in the other direction. You were talking about the zero to ten range and he's arguing like you only said zero.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK
And again, I'm not WJ, I never was WJ and never will be; as incredible as it can sound for you, someone else than himself can see clear in your fucking systematic attempts at painting him as some kind of evil foolish and dumb deceiver, when in reality he's just a guy taking quite the ambitious task of trying to expose the apollo fraud, the best he can, and from what I can see, with sincerity, despite some errors that are anyway expected on such a task!
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster
Man, I wish I had too much time on my hands!
But to your point, I actually did a fairly good job, in my response to White's response to my video, of laying out clearly the flaws and fallacies inherent in White's methodology.
I am genuinely looking forward to White's video response which he said was forthcoming.
I'm not lying when I say I find this topic a great example of critical thinking errors which is of greater interest to me than convincing conspiracists.
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien
You think you did a good job, and you certainly won the passionate kisses and cheers of the pack of degenerates that are so quick at reveling on any possible WJ demise! But all I saw, was someone inventing a situation in which WJ was deliberately trying to mislead his audience, which is blatantly false, as he had given the range and ANYONE could judge whether or not WJ continuation with the highest value of this range, and HIS conclusion, for themselves.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster
I actually don't recall in my original criticism saying he was deliberately trying to mislead his audience. My claim was that he was making errors and assumptions of fact and falsely basing his conclusions on said assumptions.
He obviously doesn't see the problem with that, so the person being deceived is himself, though it's obviously unintentional.
To some, errors like this aren't apparent, so I pointed them out, so ANYONE could see them and go from there.
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien
True, not word for word, but it's what you strongly insinuate in your comparison of what he can and can't say, which by the standard you describe in your video, which lead to him having said something that he "wasn't allowed" to say (allowed by the 'authority' of your standard in this case, that don't take into account the context in which he said this)
And by the 'cult' of WJ that you talk about.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien
Face it, you are just a bored attention seeker, and detected in the moon hoax stuff (that you don't give a flying fuck about) a potential higher audience than your usual subjets gave you. Notice it is your right and I don't blame you for this, just that it's just what it is there.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
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@AstroClownBuster You wrote:
"Face it, you are just a bored attention seeker, and detected in the moon hoax stuff (that you don't give a flying fuck about) a potential higher audience than your usual subjets gave you. Notice it is your right and I don't blame you for this, just that it's just what it is there."
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Were you talking about Jarrah or GreaterSape'??
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster
As I have said before, what I find in moon hoax stuff (which was 1 of my first 2 videos I put out on the same day) is a plethora of examples of flawed thinking and evidence presentation.
You can categorize me all you want if that helps you ignore the light I'm shining on your beloved subject.
I like how my saying "it bores me" and "I don't care about that" has become "don't give a flying fuck." So emotional! I don't recall saying that... Maybe I did... Seems harsh though...
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien
Not everyone know that your mind is already all set on the subject, and that you ultimately are not interested in this subject, I don't say you hide this, but don't be surprised if what you try to conform to your standards at times reveal your bias.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster
Everybody has a bias, whether they choose to acknowledge it or not. I'm old enough and have because self-aware enough to be think around my bias most of the time. But at no time do I try to hide my position, so at no time am I surprised when people point it out.
I have a new series of videos that will (if I do them correctly) shed light on my own errors in thinking, not just look outward.
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK Jarrah is probably working on a ten video rebuttal right now.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper
HA!
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper Nope, just one: watch?v=GwL4BVrn6sg
WhiteJarrah 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah Thank you.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper
watch?v=Oq-Ts4zJypA
GreaterSapien 2 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK watch?v=GwL4BVrn6sg
WhiteJarrah 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK Hhahahahaha That "critical thinking" would that be a metaphor for 'your ass'?
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper Stealth Videos for "public" broadcast are used all the time even on program's like 60 minutes, sending a private unsolicited letter to your opponent is "stalking", big difference.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 I was responding to your comment about Jarrah's behavior with Savage and Plait and whether or not it was stalking. My comment didn't have anything to do with Phil Webb.
Given his ego, Jarrah likes to think he is on a par with "60 Minutes," but "60 Minutes" uses real investigative journalists investigating real fraud and crime. Neither is the case with White.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@krisdevalle I would say Sydney university.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper More lies from a troll, this is your last resort or seems .
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
LOL...I just noticed that picture of Jarrah White over there in the related videos. Who is DrLoisRoss? She sure captured the spirit, didn't she?
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead When you send it too your opponent yes indeed
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
USA = Empire of lies and evil.
Russians beat your ugly yankee asses by being *first in space* and making the *first space walk* (yes, Leonov was first, not Ed White, unlike the lies that Russophobes spread).
Suck on that, yankee NATO scum! =)
Thorzanek 3 weeks ago
@Thorzanek The Americans were the first to rendezvous and dock in space. That's what made the difference. In the meantime, their N2 rocket just wasn't in the same class as the Saturn V.
While the Soviets were grabbing headlines for things like the first woman in space, we were unglamorously preparing to go to the moon.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead Private vs public do you see the difference ? It's obvious... Oh dear this troll better get his head into the legal books, doyou know the difference between assault and battery,?... Same concept , one is slightly more aggressive.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 You think sending a B-day card is an assault?
That's a slippery-slope you're on there.
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead Did you see that the birthday card was to "Grandson?"
That cracked me up. Jarrah HAD to get a chuckle out of that. Or do you suppose he was born without the humor gene? Maybe it was like, "Oh my god! That filthy criminal propagandist knows my BIRTHDAY! ... MOMEEEEEE!!!"
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead I think that YouTube Internet medium is ok to make an assumption where someones house is because it's public, a "private letter" is for no one else's viewing and thus deemed as "stalking", big difference.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 That is utter hyposcricy, like I said, at least Philweb59 didn't make a video showing where Phil's address & picture of his house trying to solicite or provoke who knows what from his legoins of brain-less lemmings.
Seem you hoaxers have a double standard as well as a weird sense of self entitlement.
So when did sending a Chritmas or birthday card become stalking?
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead This is gold. I can think of no-one more suited or better qualified to be White's defenders here than either NasavsPete, or Astroclownbuster.
He really deserves the best, and he got them.
krisdevalle 3 weeks ago
@krisdevalle I think Astroclownbuster' is Jarrah or Jack or whatever Jarrah's real name is.
His style is the same and he's more lucid than the other hoax-lemmings.
This is the funniest video he has ever made...it's better than a TV drama.
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead It's a gas. When the part about the car came up I nearly pissed myself laughing.
I also love the photo White chose to open with. It's super classy. The mustache, the legs. I just can't figure out now if this has all shifted over the divide into parody. It's difficult to tell.
krisdevalle 3 weeks ago
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@krisdevalle "I also love the photo White chose to open with. It's super classy. The mustache, the legs. I just can't figure out now if this has all shifted over the divide into parody. It's difficult to tell. "
Hahaha
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@krisdevalle Yeah, but he still has that spiffy victory sign.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@krisdevalle "...the legs."
How the hell does that guy ever get those boots off???
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead
You don't have enough lucidity to perceive who is lucid or not. I'm not WJ, and If it wasn't for some part of his moon landing hoax exposure, I don't know if I had anything to agree with him on, we are very different, and suggesting that we are the same person is laughable, so thanks for the laughs tweeker.
You guys in the other hands, are very mych alike, all endoctrined intellectual midgets that will always remain in the dark, thinking that they spread the 'truth'.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster Tweekerhead's not the only one who suspects that you and Jarrah are one and the same. The nature of your mis-types is highly suspect for one thing, like someone trying too hard. You've mentioned things that are usually the exclusive province of Jarrah's deep core 'research'. That and the fact that you argue the toss with the same petulant dismissal of facts. I think its a good bet you could be a nasty Mr Hyde to Jarrah's amusing attempt at a Dr Jekyll.
Apogee02UK 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster You say I can't elucidate eh' Astro-Clown?
Then why not have a debate or a discussion here about the prohibitive aspects of Apollo Moon landings, shall we?
Believing in Apollo is not a endocrination, it's the understanding the facts which you don't seem to grasp.
So, let's have that discussion here, in front of this crowd to see who the intellectual midget is, let's see who's really in the dark.
Name one issue that made Apollo impossible, Clown.
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead Ooh! Ooh! (waving hand frantically), I know!! RADIATION! Deadly, I mean really, REALLY deadly radiation...all up there in those van halen belts. Like 5000 MEV protinoes! At NEAR LIGHT speed!!!! It would fry those astro-NOTS, (I love that), like crispy bacon. lololololo hahahahah
Disclaimer: turtles, flies, grubs, bacteria, and sensitive electronic circuits are immune.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper Hahaha Yeah...50,000MeV's man.....Well of course it takes 620 trillion MeV per second to light up a 100-watt light bulb.
This outta' be fun...Let's see if Astro-Clown takes the bait.
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead Hint for ACB: Coulomb.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@krisdevalle Well, there's stalkervision.
Oh, wait. Never mind.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 The location of someone's house is NOT public information on YouTube. And like all good hoaxheads you conveniently left out critical information: that Jarrah posted the man's real name, occupation, and picture, declaring his intent to reveal more.
He should have been banned from YouTube for that, but the guy was nice and just asked Jarrah to remove the video.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
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CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 Hmm so you compare me to Judas ?? "The Apostle who betrayed his Divine Master", wow you sure do have a bloated ego.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 You're right. You don't deserve to be compared to someone that famous. It would be more appropriate to compare you to Brett Keane.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 No not a traitor, a realist.. I look at what's real, it's not all about being a member of a mob you know? Reality wins.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah I really would love to get hold of that other book from rene, I believe you couldn't acquire it for some reason, this book hold they key and I'd bet it's safely guarded.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
Philwebb59 sending letters is of course not very smart.It is like giving a loaded gun to a kid.
However wining about the fact that you got a letter and play the victim like you have no balls, means that you sound like a wussy and playing the wussy is is not very attractive if you ever want to get a date.
If you want to get laid, the revoke the wining clips, show that you are a real man that will not faint from a simple postcard and stand your ground by proving that NASA is a hoax.
obaeyens 3 weeks ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 Your nuts..
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1
Your a traitor. A slimy pathetic Judas Iscariot.
moonhoaxlunatic1 3 weeks ago
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CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 "Your nuts.."
What about them?
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@LunarTuner Wouldn't put that past him, don't give him any ideas!
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@GlowWorm1962 Well GTP made the attempt to convince everyone, I won't take this valiant effort away from him, its just that what he. Is deconvolving is fake, as per the LRO teams. Admission, they superimposed the tracks in, jw has a video on this. You may want to watch, and no I don't "fuck" with people just seek the truth, nothing wrong with that. Is there ?
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 No, you SAID you backstabbed all your new friends because you "like to fuck with people."
Show me where the ASU team admitted superimposing tracks.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
Jarrah, have you considered that Phil's rather innocuous behavior might have been in response to your brazen attempt to reveal Luke's identity on YouTube, and it was just his way of saying, "Two can play at that game"? At least he made no indication that he was going to publicly expose your private information on YouTube.
BTW, did you ever ask him to stop mailing you?
Anyway, if he wasn't sure if he had the right address, he knows it now, doesn't he? (Not that he would ever do anything with it.)
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
Philwebb for president.
moonhoaxlunatic1 3 weeks ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 He just declared six more weeks of winter!
On the Ground Hog Day video for 2012, (watch?v=JE0gddpeGnY), the first comment I saw was, "Phil for President."
Something must be whispering in the wind.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
It could just be some people you now who are playing a prank on you, I also read some of the letters and they have been possetive so he might be trying to apologize and be nice.
htraeking17 3 weeks ago
British Interplanetary Society programme 2012 includes a lecture explaining how Project Apollo was a fake
e1visinpersonator 3 weeks ago
@e1visinpersonator
"British Interplanetary Society programme 2012 includes a lecture explaining how Project Apollo was a fake"
Is there any way you could record and upload that program to YouTube?
straydog02 3 weeks ago
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@e1visinpersonator
It looks interesting: "Perceived Anomalies in the Apollo Lunar Surface Images" April 4th.
Marcus Allen (Nexus Magazine) will present his theories of anomalies in the photos and then he will be followed Jerry Stone (British Interplanetary Society) who will counter his claims.
So it's not so much a lecture "explaining how Project Apollo was a fake", but a point-counterpoint on the photography issue.
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@GreaterSapien Check out watch?v=coMGccvTK6g
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper
Thanks! Yeah, that guy will get schooled.
GreaterSapien 3 weeks ago
@e1visinpersonator Allen will publicly have his ass handed to him. I hope someone makes a video of it.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
Endless squirming from you and ClownBuster (assuming that you are two distinct individuals) doesn't change the fact that your Luke stalking video ends with you saying, 'I now have his voice, I also have this street scene here which is probably his home address - let's see if they'll match up with anything...' This could EASILY be seen as a veiled threat especially when the music you choose to end the piece on includes the lyrics, 'Let the hunter be the hunted!' You don't have a leg to stand on.
Apogee02UK 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK
In other words, he didn't even made clear that these were indeed the same person, he was pondering about it based on the information he got. If you had a brain, you'll realize you are the one not having a leg to stand on, especially when it's clear you try to justify philwebb59 method with that!
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster I certainly am not trying to justify the letters you received. What I and others here are attempting to do is have you own up to the fact that your own cyberstalking of Luke was just that and also reprehensible behaviour. You cannot possibly argue that (whether you sent letters or not) your own behaviour was acceptable, Jarrah. It patently was not and your childish, petulant inability to admit is outrageous and hypocritical. And you wonder why people have a problem with you!
Apogee02UK 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK
The hard fact is, that WJ didn't determined whether or not this person was or not the individual he thought he could be; based on a joke name that was given by the person in question. He was in a situation that coudl've put himself revealing personal info about, facelessdimmension 'luke', but it turned not be the case, and you can only suppose that it would have been the case, you can't even be certain of this, had he found any correlation.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster No, and that is not the point. The point is that he jumped on the possibility to reveal someones name and home address and made a video showing everyone what he found. I think both Jarrah and Phil has done some shitty moves. What's funny is that when it happens to Jarrah, he's suddenly the innocent victim.
rawmonkno1 3 weeks ago
@rawmonkno1
Yeah he was irritated by this guy who pretended to be a lecturer on the 'authenticity of apollo' and was relentlessly asking irrelevant questions and being an arrogant faceless coward, that he missed the joke name completly and indeed jumped on the possibility to be in a situation to eventually be able to reveal personal information about him (about the mysterious 'apollo authenticity lecturer' jackass that is), Which wasn't the case.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
Here philwebb59 didn't stop at the possibility to be in position of sending WJ unsollicited letters, he did it. I don't say WJ pulled out video was a demonstration of elegance, but you can't ignore that in one situation nothing happened, just a bubble that burst at best, and in the other situation WJ is receiving undesired mail at his home adress.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster I don't think Luke ever claimed to be a lecturer on the "authenticity of Apollo," or anything of that nature.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper
Yes he claimed to be one..
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
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@AstroClownBuster "Yes he claimed to be one."
Where? I know he said he was a physicist and he may have said something about lecturing, but I don't remember him saying anything about giving lectures on the authenticity of Apollo.
Not that it makes a whole lot of difference..
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster Legally speaking, it doesn't matter what White or his defenders think. It matters what a jury or a judge would think. White's behavior was clearly hostile and his intent to reveal more of Dr. H's personal information was clear. Phil's actions were of a very different character. There was no hostility and no indication that he was going to publicly reveal anything.
White was very lucky that his innocent victim didn't pursue action against him.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper
Legally speaking, it doesn't matter what a faceless coward like you, that just created his yt account today, with the motive to go spit a sick twist on moral and legality, in WJ latest video thread, while conforting your poor faceless cowards friends on their equally sick view/understanding of the situation exposed in this video.
I can plainly see the hostility and provocation that philwebb59 who is obsessed by WJ, can induce through these letters.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster Philwebb is not obsessed with you Jarra....Jack...Whatever your name is.
Phil is making fun of you, there's a difference. HE'S MAKING FUN OF JARRAH.
At least Philwebb didn't post Jarrah's real name, address & picture of the house Jarrah...or you live in.
Don't flatter yourself, Phil's not obsessed, you're...I mean Jarrah's not that relevant.
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster My, my, such emotion! Yes, this is a faceless, brand new YT account. Yours is a faceless old account. So what?
But you're right, what you see and what I see doesn't matter, legally. And how many judges do you think see things the way conspiracy theorists do?
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK
It's even smaller than that, he was in fact in a situation that he could perceive as being potentially able to reveal personal stuff about this person, because this person was from the start fully aware that the name he had given was bogus, so you can't even pretend, that 'luke' had any problem with this situation as far as his privacy is concerned! You guys lack the ability to get the full picture, it's showing...
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster The full picture is that Jarrah's actions caused an innocent person to have his privacy invaded. If Jarrah didn't recognise he was at fault then why did he apologies? Twist away all you like, what Jarrah did was wrong plain and simple. You keep making out it his behaviour was somehow acceptable. It wasn't. How would you like it if someone had named you in connection with something you had nothing to do with then plastered a photo of YOUR home address on the internet?
Apogee02UK 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK
Invaded in which way? WJ was undecided as to whether or not this person adress had any relevance. Has this person received letters or postcard, phonecalls or emails, from 'angry conspiracy theorists' ? Was 'luke' ever remotely endangered in the protection of his privacy by any photos;name or adress that might have transpired?
WJ did apologies to the person that was mistakenly presented through some images, as someone that could've been 'luke'.
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK
«If Jarrah didn't recognise he was at fault then why did he apologies?»
Was this question a joke by the way?
AstroClownBuster 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster Luke didn't have a problem with it. Not for his own sake, anyway. The person who had a problem with it was Dr. H. And it's a good thing he was such a nice guy, because YouTube would DEFINITELY have had a problem with it.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster The information he got!? What the hell do you mean, the information he GOT? You mean the information he TRACKED DOWN then posted in a creepy cyber-stalking way? Regardless of whether or not Jarrah then attempted to send letters to the address or not, you cannot possibly deny that what he did was just plain wrong. He knows it himself. Why else would he attempt to justify it with the lame excuse that he was concerned for Luke's students?
Apogee02UK 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK It's not a lame excuse, it's a fact. LQSJ was out of control spewing hatred and hostility through Youtube comments, all the while claiming to be a physics lecturer. Among other things, he said the funeral video was a video of me "emptying a bag of crap into the sea". This should not be tolerated from the teaching staff of any learning environment. If one of my college professors acted like that, I'd get a restraining order and tell the headmaster: "either he goes or I go"
WhiteJarrah 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah Speaking of which, Jarrah , how did your first semester go?
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@Apogee02UK continued...
Unfortunately, the joke name that LQSJ used led me to an innocent third party whose name and job description matched LQ’s claimed career and name. As I have stated repeatedly, the mistake was peacefully resolved. I even sent the third party a copy of the revised video to make sure he was fine with it, which he was. What more do you want me to do? Kiss his foot on national television?!
WhiteJarrah 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah This is like the time you couldn't understand how donating to your own fund wasn't a reassurance that you weren't scamming people! Its like your logic circuit is broken or something. Jarrah, it doesn't matter how the matter was RESOLVED (although as has been said here already YT might well have resolved it differently) its the fact that you did what you did that is the issue here. What is so hard about that that you can't admit it? Are you just not man enough to own up to it?
Apogee02UK 3 weeks ago
@AstroClownBuster You won't see any sympathy from the Apollo believers...After what you did or tried to do with Luke. If i was this Michael Hunt...I would've sued your ass, that was the most irresponsible thing you could do, besides make ridiculous videos about the Moon landings.
Fact is...I think you know the landings were real.
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
The Moon landings were faker than Pam Andersons tits :) There's no one that can deny it. And Jarrah, lots of PANS are asking why no scientists noticed the scam. Last month there was a sour debate because the British Interplanetary Society doubted the Apollo Moon landings.
e1visinpersonator 3 weeks ago
@e1visinpersonator I love how you misspell your username. LOL
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
oh my god you should see Gonetoplaids new video, I feel very ill, he has tried to pan in on the superimposed images that the LRO team made clear that the tracks were "superimposed" onto the images. I feel sick to think that they were real..where is my vomit bag, please somebody!!.. in addition now these areas are "no fly zones" to 3rd parties, ie not even Japan can take images now. This makes no difference because Jaxa Selene was NEVER able to take an image of a lem or rover..thanks Bart & JW.
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 Is that the same Gonetoplaids (sic) that you befriended then betrayed - for no other reason than you "like fucking with people"?
Oh.
GlowWorm1962 3 weeks ago
@NASAvsPETE1 Where did the LRO team ever say they superimposed tracks on an image?
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
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NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
Desperate to weazle your way out of this, aren't you?
Tell us: when you're doing exams for your "BSc in Astrophysics", do you use Gaddi's "new improved" Pi (as it is suggested by Rene's website that has your name all over it) ?
--Let me guess: You're not using it, but you're OPEN to it (snerk).--
Or are you still "ultimately undecided"? Then could you please pass my question on to the
""anonymous physicist"", who's "book sales" you are "handling"?
Jarrah, you're a piece of gold.
AndreasZ05 3 weeks ago
@AndreasZ05 The only ones trying to weasel out are you trolls dodging the fact that Webb illegally obtained my contact details and has been harassing me for almost a year. It seems after a week of silence, Webb has confessed to sending those letters. See the comment he posted: watch?v=pbw60eeyPdU
It'll be interesting to see how long you can continue to dodge it now.
"Jarrah, you're a piece of gold."
Good. It beats being a piece of shit like you any day. Goodbye and good riddance.
WhiteJarrah 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah "The only ones trying to weasel out are you trolls dodging the fact that Webb illegally obtained my contact details and has been harassing me for almost a year."
Is it illegal to find out someones contact details? I've never heard of such a thing.
Where you trying to obtain Lukes contact details illegally then?
rawmonkno1 3 weeks ago
@rawmonkno1 I think one big difference is what someone does with that information. Jarrah was clearly trying to expose Luke on YouTube and got the wrong person. He posted his name and profession and was determined to reveal other personal information: "Let's see what turns up."
To my knowledge, PhilWebb59 never gave anyone any of White's personal information and gave no indications of hostile intent, unlike what White did concerning Luke.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@CharlieNoWhisper Yes I know, I was just acknowledging the fact that some people could interpret what Phil did as harassment. My impression is that Phil didn't do anything more than joking with Jarrah. The problem comes when the receiver is so paranoid that he thinks there's an ulterior motive behind it.
rawmonkno1 3 weeks ago
@rawmonkno1 I can also see how someone might perceive Phil's actions. But you and I would consider motive and character of those actions, where the Jarrah group would not. And for good reason.
If it went to court, I think it would end up with a judgment for the plaintiff for maybe $20 and the judge would tell Phil not to send him any more mail.
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah
"illegally obtained"
Huh? How would you know?
"harassing me for almost a year"
Huh? What did he say?
moonhoaxlunatic1 3 weeks ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1, he said "Happy Birthday," which apparently means, "I'm outside your window holding a butcher knife" in Australian. ;)
LunarTuner 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah Hey Jarrah, or Jack whatever your name is.... Be glad that PhilWebb59 didn't post your address, real name and picture of your house on one of his videos!!
This drama is hilarious, you know that right?
Tweekerhead 3 weeks ago
@Tweekerhead To paraphrase from "MIB"...
"We in the hoaxer community have no sense of humor that I'm aware of, ma'am."
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@WhiteJarrah wrote: "It beats being a piece of shit like you any day."
Would you consider that a "defamatory or disparaging" remark?
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
@AndreasZ05 Can I just intrude here? Rene found an almost perfect match to the algebraic value of pi (π), its documented in another one of his papers which others have not yet seen. In addition to this there is more evidence to the effect that Ralph Rene was 100% correct in his findings. I have to say now that the original papers Jarrah holds exclusively, made by Ralph are worth Squillions!
NASAvsPETE1 3 weeks ago
@AndreasZ05 I'm wondering, how does someone go about peer review anonymously?
CharlieNoWhisper 3 weeks ago
Just out of interest, why has Jarrah made it impossible to read the contents of the letter? He's normally so careful to make things nice and legible. In the same way he's had no problem posting pictures of what he thinks is the home address of his opponents. Could it be that the contents of the letter are incontrovertibly benign? But he's kicked up a fuss about it anyway to generate sympathy? Come on, Jarrah, if this stuff is so threatening why don't you post it? It can only do your case good.
Apogee02UK 3 weeks ago