They should've made this particular battle scene a little longer with more confrontation instead of showing the slaughter of an army by arrows. Yes, it was a good strategy for the emperor to use against them but at least give them another 4 minutes of epic battles between the Black/White army against the Golden army. That would be more entertaining for us to watch and would make sense this is a surprise attack. Thumbs up if you agree! :D
When they got to the wall, why didn't the regular soldiers just keep those ladders up? They might have at least gotten past the walls then. I mean I know it was constantly pressing forward but they could have just backed up with it.
yo since when was war was ever fair? Is it fair to call americans pussies in the vietnam war, when they couldn't even beat a third world country when they had airstrikes, helicopter support, better weapons etc. i mean that's what i'd call a pussy. I mean if you could choose between a rock and a m16 to kill someone which'd u actually choose?
To answer the question. The emperor is not to fight in battle, so he has his army to do it for him and so, what better way than to use seige towers to squese them in and use arrows. Besides its just a stroy anyways.
The emperror wanted to save him self, as a selfish and cowardish man. Golden army would have defeated imperial army if they'd have had a open skirmish.
i saw this on the airplane, i love the story line, and i admit that the fighting scenes are very cool, but i just hate this scene, its just a massacre, near the begining you see the king with the long hair whipping his son, who tried to rebel against his father. haha.... ok cool
i got one question, while watching this movie i heard one of the character mention the name GENERAL WU, who is that bcus ive been looking around but idk who that is =/
When I first saw this, I really thought the prince was gonna win. Until I saw the effect of the Emperor's, how does one describe it, moving fortress? Absolutely epic!
I can't honestly say I could choose either side. I can't choose the emperor's side because he gives no reason for poisoning the empress, nor can I choose Jai's side because of the same reason. If I knew why the emperor was poisoning his own empress I'm confident that I'd be able to come to a decision.
i more strange thing is that when the prince and his golden army went though the gates and he saw the kings black colour army the gates shuted behind him and another group of the kings army barracked the doors behind them and the kings army putted up poles of who to hold on the door behind the golden army if enemys attack in to china and get to the palace the door pulls open not push open so much for a defence
you just think its a movie i'm half chinese and i know th histoy of china bigest palace in the world and you think its a movie so the army and stuff is fake china did have like 100,000 men in a battle just like this film and like that do have like 4000 servents just in the palace inmagen 1-10 royals 4000 people working for them lol
this film is nothing about strategy, just some tasteless love affairs. This army is stupid enough to bring only spears to battle, and this prince should have known what his daddy is capable of.
the royal family has like their own little private soldiers r army like prince jai has the rebels, the empress has those guys(b4 this scene) the youngest son has the soldeirs i just cant remember wat they were called and the oldest so has the fighters
Actually, the "gold" soldiers are the Royal Guards being led by Prince Jai. The "silver" soldiers are the Palace Guards under the command of the Emperor. The pet-peeve I had with the battle was that the Royal Guards were inadecuately equipped to fight. They didn't even have shields or archers to use, unlike the Palace Guards. You would think that someone as experienced as Jai would at least bring shields.
jai should've arrived with his fellow rebelling generals on horseback and being a couple of archers around, then the emperor's army would be uberpwned
The end of this movie had me like......"WTF?". Jai is bad ass, Chou is on my list of favorites now. Though one little problem, the shields. They obviously didn't just come from no where so wouldn't the smart thing be to move ahead before they closed, once first noticed? Come on now. They all died..so un-cool.
but if thyer went through most of the rebel army wouldnt make it and plus there were whole bunch of soldeirs behind those shields so the ones that did make it through would be screwed
Unlikely. Even with shields, they were outnumbered and wouldn't have had the combined strength to push back. Plus, this is a solid wall coming at them with spikes and spears sticking out. They fought well with what they had, but were well outmatched by manpower and equipment.
Yeah, but don't you remember what he said afterwards? "In my heart, I knew I could never win..." I'm just saying he should have better prepared his troops since he of all people should know that the battlefield always pulls dirty tricks and surprises on you.
hmmm qwll maek you are right , but hey come on it's a movie!!! and you know what WE want to see , that's how I lok at it, keep things like these for documentaires ^^ , but Iget your point
I totally agree of that Nightline19. To me it's unfair for Jay Chou's army to be slaughter from the rain of arrows...The king should at least fight head on like u said.
Ur forgetting. This battle is more realistic. Think about it. Would u lose half your army in a head on battle or would you lose only a third of them by using arrows and walls? Which one seems the better choice? Obviously the one that is the easiest and less casualties. That's the way war works.
Nah.. Even if they fight head on, the golden ones will still lose for sure.. Just look at how the few assassins managed to fight (start of video), just a few black ones and the golden ones had lost much of their armies.. And the golden ones are just imperial guards, they are the front line footmen in war (pawns), which is not a match against the elites.
@boy50 The only unfair battle is the one you loose, the foolish leader is one who leads his men to slaughter not knowing of enemies deffences. Lastly due to emotions an idiot son ruined everything when he could be given what he desired.
You guys try to apply some dumb viking honor-myth of face-off as a mark of masculinity or sth... A king who fights on front instead of planning and commanding is the king of the country that soon will be erased off the map - thats how it worked in history
@YuriPRIME Just think of it, he lead his elite troops in narrow square, got trapped from all sides by hidden enemies and they even managed to CLOSE DOORS BEHIND HIM! What a briliant chap, oh geeeeee!
this battle ain't awesome , yes the star with ninja's and the spear throw and the spear waling up the forward going wlals was ok, But aftert hat I expectet battle al lthe way to temple, but they get shot and all die, so lame ya know
This is like watching myself play Medieval Total Wars 2
sangyuni95 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
obviously the golden army losed and the steel army won:non auro,sed ferro,recuperanda est patria
romandef 3 months ago
i find it impossible how a wall was able to be moved in much quicker than the soldiers could run.
BrownFlip7852 3 months ago
They should've made this particular battle scene a little longer with more confrontation instead of showing the slaughter of an army by arrows. Yes, it was a good strategy for the emperor to use against them but at least give them another 4 minutes of epic battles between the Black/White army against the Golden army. That would be more entertaining for us to watch and would make sense this is a surprise attack. Thumbs up if you agree! :D
Justino292 5 months ago
When they got to the wall, why didn't the regular soldiers just keep those ladders up? They might have at least gotten past the walls then. I mean I know it was constantly pressing forward but they could have just backed up with it.
teencomment 6 months ago
man wish they just made this movie a war movie
changball1 7 months ago
the emperor is a pussy licker hiding behind thiose walls
myballisticbeetz123 9 months ago
is the emperor really that rich.
he have like over 9 million soldiers in perfect shining armors.
MrHmongRooster 9 months ago
no honour in the emperor wow, using bow and arrows, smart strategy but no honour
GeGeMus12 1 year ago
I wonder how the battle wouldve been like if the emperor's soldiers didn't have those mobile walls..
coldtrey1 1 year ago
yo since when was war was ever fair? Is it fair to call americans pussies in the vietnam war, when they couldn't even beat a third world country when they had airstrikes, helicopter support, better weapons etc. i mean that's what i'd call a pussy. I mean if you could choose between a rock and a m16 to kill someone which'd u actually choose?
MisterSrosis 1 year ago 2
u guys may call the emperor a pussy but it was a smart strategy and thats y he won...
Raso8k 1 year ago
To answer the question. The emperor is not to fight in battle, so he has his army to do it for him and so, what better way than to use seige towers to squese them in and use arrows. Besides its just a stroy anyways.
Tisu224 1 year ago
The emperror wanted to save him self, as a selfish and cowardish man. Golden army would have defeated imperial army if they'd have had a open skirmish.
xzivanoid 1 year ago
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ThumpaDumpa 1 year ago
I think if an empire has that many soldiers combined, they shouldn't waste it on fighting each other...go take over the world or something.
yragoam 1 year ago
the only fault I can have with this is the speed in which the Emperors army moves into position and how Prince Jai's army didn't see them.
Joutja123 2 years ago
prince got check mated
freddypowa 2 years ago
i saw this on the airplane, i love the story line, and i admit that the fighting scenes are very cool, but i just hate this scene, its just a massacre, near the begining you see the king with the long hair whipping his son, who tried to rebel against his father. haha.... ok cool
kingofdiamonds4 2 years ago
kicked lord of the ring's ass
davidliao623 2 years ago
i got one question, while watching this movie i heard one of the character mention the name GENERAL WU, who is that bcus ive been looking around but idk who that is =/
omgitztrippy 2 years ago
I think the gold army is officially under the command of General Wu and it's he who provides them for the attempt to depose the emperor.
NCWC2 2 years ago
PRINCE JAI!
omgitztrippy 2 years ago
that end part gets me every time, the idea of being completely trapped with no way to fight back, aww it gets me in the gut
DTroySylar 2 years ago
When I first saw this, I really thought the prince was gonna win. Until I saw the effect of the Emperor's, how does one describe it, moving fortress? Absolutely epic!
LivingCrusader 2 years ago
Whats the name of the theme that starts on 0:18 0:18 ?
bedsonax 2 years ago
Crazy Huge Asian armies!!
Jaketherepairman 2 years ago
So Much Death....
Jaketherepairman 2 years ago
man it would of been so much better if they fought instead of having those wall ... either way i would pick Prince Jai side
mTk22 2 years ago
I can't honestly say I could choose either side. I can't choose the emperor's side because he gives no reason for poisoning the empress, nor can I choose Jai's side because of the same reason. If I knew why the emperor was poisoning his own empress I'm confident that I'd be able to come to a decision.
NCWC2 2 years ago
i more strange thing is that when the prince and his golden army went though the gates and he saw the kings black colour army the gates shuted behind him and another group of the kings army barracked the doors behind them and the kings army putted up poles of who to hold on the door behind the golden army if enemys attack in to china and get to the palace the door pulls open not push open so much for a defence
Kanonvale 2 years ago
you just think its a movie i'm half chinese and i know th histoy of china bigest palace in the world and you think its a movie so the army and stuff is fake china did have like 100,000 men in a battle just like this film and like that do have like 4000 servents just in the palace inmagen 1-10 royals 4000 people working for them lol
Kanonvale 2 years ago
too many deaths!!
youtubalisation 2 years ago
PRINCE JAI!!! JAY CHOU!!!!!!
TravisSem23 2 years ago
this film is nothing about strategy, just some tasteless love affairs. This army is stupid enough to bring only spears to battle, and this prince should have known what his daddy is capable of.
colodius 2 years ago 2
Silver Army
"Okay, now everybody move the hundred tonne wall pieces into place! altogether now, heave!
mortman200 2 years ago
"Man, all this and a paycheck!" LOL
NCWC2 2 years ago
its hard to watch
xabcx 2 years ago
Why there are no archers on the golden army??
MrEminem13 2 years ago
Mwahaha! I was wondering the same thing! Some army huh?
xZenetothx 2 years ago
Daddy always wins...
xZenetothx 2 years ago
Ouch! I dont want to be over run by that silver wall lol
mongolia4ever 2 years ago
problems with gold army battle plan
1. no one defending the rear to hold the gates
2.sending everyone at once (with superiority in #s attack in waves)
3. underestimating the most tecnologicly advanced army in the world
4. using only spears instead of swords(swords allow the user to use a sheild to defend against arrows)
Silver advantages
1. giant fuc@n wall and large sheilds
2. lots of archers
3. probably outnumbering the golds
4. outflanking
Elegentcrown2 2 years ago
I think in a fair battle the soldiers with the golden armor would of won.
suzukasuzuki 3 years ago 6
wow their golden armor is fucken cool
Starscream202 3 years ago 11
"Who will be victorious"
Was there any doubt? :)
Darroth 3 years ago
the men should be armed with shields. they got everything else, but no shields
Direwolf3450 3 years ago 2
the royal family has like their own little private soldiers r army like prince jai has the rebels, the empress has those guys(b4 this scene) the youngest son has the soldeirs i just cant remember wat they were called and the oldest so has the fighters
Bbturtle35 3 years ago
3:28-4:00
thats the definition of fucked & own'd
iplaywitgrenades 3 years ago
Yeah, that proves my point. He should have been more prepared for something like what happened after fighting at the border for years.
NCWC2 3 years ago
this movie is so friggin sad... its just pure slaughter
Supafweak 3 years ago
Doesn't have to be gold. Besides, he's the prince. Only the Emperor is more powerful than him. Who's gonna argue with a member of the royal family.
NCWC2 3 years ago
Actually, the "gold" soldiers are the Royal Guards being led by Prince Jai. The "silver" soldiers are the Palace Guards under the command of the Emperor. The pet-peeve I had with the battle was that the Royal Guards were inadecuately equipped to fight. They didn't even have shields or archers to use, unlike the Palace Guards. You would think that someone as experienced as Jai would at least bring shields.
NCWC2 3 years ago
actually the gold soldiers were from the army, because the empress sent a letter to a eneral about delivering 10000 chystanium decorated scarves
chineseeagle123x 3 years ago
No, they were the Royal Guards. Look it up on Wikipedia, it explains everything. And the silver army were the Palace Guards.
NCWC2 3 years ago
jai should've arrived with his fellow rebelling generals on horseback and being a couple of archers around, then the emperor's army would be uberpwned
chineseeagle123x 3 years ago
The end of this movie had me like......"WTF?". Jai is bad ass, Chou is on my list of favorites now. Though one little problem, the shields. They obviously didn't just come from no where so wouldn't the smart thing be to move ahead before they closed, once first noticed? Come on now. They all died..so un-cool.
SpraxIAKS 3 years ago
but if thyer went through most of the rebel army wouldnt make it and plus there were whole bunch of soldeirs behind those shields so the ones that did make it through would be screwed
Bbturtle35 3 years ago
hahahahha the shield's would have benefit because of the arrows and the wall (note: with shields they could push back!)
Mico1318 3 years ago
Unlikely. Even with shields, they were outnumbered and wouldn't have had the combined strength to push back. Plus, this is a solid wall coming at them with spikes and spears sticking out. They fought well with what they had, but were well outmatched by manpower and equipment.
NCWC2 3 years ago
it was meant to be a surpurise attack, until the crown prince snitched and grassed the plans up
chineseeagle123x 3 years ago
Yeah, but don't you remember what he said afterwards? "In my heart, I knew I could never win..." I'm just saying he should have better prepared his troops since he of all people should know that the battlefield always pulls dirty tricks and surprises on you.
NCWC2 3 years ago
i bet u anything that if wan hadent grassed prince jai would be the emperor of china now
chineseeagle123x 3 years ago
prince jai should have won!
Donut1298 3 years ago
ultimate Defense id say??
dncdragon 4 years ago
looking at all those arrows gives me a sharp tingly feeling inside lol
Laikmuay 4 years ago 2
Ugh, Wan, why did ya hafta ruin the Empress's surprise... :P
Jay Chou deserves to win!
WolfPrecinct 4 years ago 3
Even if they have shield they would have been crused in the end, ahh, tang dynasty...
terenceya 4 years ago 3
pussyass emperor omg i was so mad when i saw this battle in the end
thescourgeakawilson 4 years ago 9
thats why you have shields or else 300 would be have been only 10 sec battle..
mannyisthebest 4 years ago
LOL. Yes.
SpraxIAKS 3 years ago
this arrow massacre was worse than 300, at least the spartans had shields XD
Redeemer029 4 years ago
They must have used alot of people for this movie..
Thanhcool 4 years ago 2
They did =]
There was more than 10,000 people for the battle scenes.
The Americans thought the Chinese people were crazy.
WolfPrecinct 4 years ago
it was a good tactical move by the king
in a battle you want to WIN and not to take on many casualties
joe505013 4 years ago
hmmm qwll maek you are right , but hey come on it's a movie!!! and you know what WE want to see , that's how I lok at it, keep things like these for documentaires ^^ , but Iget your point
Zanzibar100 4 years ago
where is the other part of the video??
lameler 4 years ago
if only the princes soliders had shields it would have been better
markstrikerx 4 years ago
the emperor is a pussy using those shit walls and archers, why cant he fight jay chou's army head on like a real battle.
NightLine19 4 years ago 4
I totally agree of that Nightline19. To me it's unfair for Jay Chou's army to be slaughter from the rain of arrows...The king should at least fight head on like u said.
boy50 4 years ago
Ur forgetting. This battle is more realistic. Think about it. Would u lose half your army in a head on battle or would you lose only a third of them by using arrows and walls? Which one seems the better choice? Obviously the one that is the easiest and less casualties. That's the way war works.
Yano65 4 years ago 2
well i'm glad you know what to do when you become general of your own army
Dkb123 4 years ago 3
@boy50 is what chu call being smart...lol
louvaj15 1 year ago
@boy50 ROFL @ 2:54
Nah.. Even if they fight head on, the golden ones will still lose for sure.. Just look at how the few assassins managed to fight (start of video), just a few black ones and the golden ones had lost much of their armies.. And the golden ones are just imperial guards, they are the front line footmen in war (pawns), which is not a match against the elites.
H3Y0o 1 year ago
@boy50 The only unfair battle is the one you loose, the foolish leader is one who leads his men to slaughter not knowing of enemies deffences. Lastly due to emotions an idiot son ruined everything when he could be given what he desired.
You guys try to apply some dumb viking honor-myth of face-off as a mark of masculinity or sth... A king who fights on front instead of planning and commanding is the king of the country that soon will be erased off the map - thats how it worked in history
YuriPRIME 7 months ago
@YuriPRIME Just think of it, he lead his elite troops in narrow square, got trapped from all sides by hidden enemies and they even managed to CLOSE DOORS BEHIND HIM! What a briliant chap, oh geeeeee!
YuriPRIME 7 months ago
@NightLine19 You will understand when your survive is close to extinction, you would have done the same thing
themainmanishere 11 months ago
@NightLine19 You will understand when your survival is close to extinction, you would have done the same thing
themainmanishere 11 months ago
yes it was to short, but come ooooon didn't you expect more after they walked up the moving walls?
Zanzibar100 4 years ago
dude the fighting is sweet.. ur just mad cause it was quite short
charleschang 4 years ago
this battle ain't awesome , yes the star with ninja's and the spear throw and the spear waling up the forward going wlals was ok, But aftert hat I expectet battle al lthe way to temple, but they get shot and all die, so lame ya know
Zanzibar100 4 years ago
wow quite simply awsome battle
calerdonian 4 years ago
Thx for the comment calerdonian!!! I hope I could upload more battle in the future!!
boy50 4 years ago