Judo Newaza: Turnover using Armlock

[str8bigr1]

if ur athletic u can pull dis 1 off or u can end up gettin armbarred urself

[ElchinMendes]

Wow what DAN is this sensei? My sensei at my practice is a 6th DAN :)

[abdullahabdulaziz1]

man this guy is great i knew arm lock and all stuff but never thought of such a thing

[abdullahabdulaziz1]

hau khali tumareku ich aata judo

[newjudoka]

i like this one

[newjudoka]

oh very good! thanks. I always thought reaching over exposes yourself to the other person rolling when they trap your arm...

[mifunefan1]

Wunderbare Technik. Ein Hinweis für die Leute die glauben daß das hier nach Judoregeln illegal ist: Das ist kein Hebel, schaut mal genau hin, der Arm von Uke wird vor und beim Wurf vor dem Körper festgelegt oder glaubt ihr nicht daß ein 7.Dan das weiß. Er ist der Experte!!!!

Gruß an alle Judofreunde

[DavidB5501]

At 1m30s he seems to be using an armlock while throwing his opponent. Isn't this illegal in standard judo?

[judoman98]

it maybe illegal in sport judo..but remember judo is a martial art and has lots of moves for the actual real martial art that it is

[daridp]

@DavidB5501 No its not illegal to throw someone with an arm lock getting one standing is very rare though in sport judo. Sweeping someone during Ne-waza with an armlock isn't illegal.

[DavidB5501]

I'm very rusty on the rules of Judo, but isn't it illegal to throw someone with an armlock? Which is what the guy seemed to be doing.

[MrBroadcastmyself321]

wow hes the white-red belt theres only one in the world

amazing

[TheFunkWizard]

no it means he's a sixth dan or higher and there is more than one out there do some reserch

[RasAlGhul4000]

You guys are all cool, good advice, you know your stuff.

[ImpactJujitsu]

If you want a mixture of all find yourself a good Japanese Jujitsu school - the art is the original mixed martial arts that comprises, strikes, kicks, throws, locks, chokes, ground work, weapons etc however be prepared it is a long slow journey as there is so much knowledge to gain.

[RasAlGhul4000]

Judo also contains elements of sumo you know.

[Samperor]

Thanks for the advices guys. Now I am finding a JUdo dojo out in queens NY.

[molataz]

go to spartak sports club in rego park, the sensei is amazing.

[Samperor]

yeah thats the only one I found in Queens..haha Thanks. Do they teach the traditonal aspect also. Like the old Kata and not just sport.

[sabakimsg]

There are NOT 67 throws in Bjj.

[judomichaell]

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!

[hethaROXxox]

i think im on somebody alses account hee hee dis is cool

[TheRealDrache]

I noticed the maker of this is from Israel. Is this martial art "jewdo"?

[eddie2593]

r u trying 2 be funny or r u just an asshole?

[TheRealDrache]

Both, which one do I get the award for?

[eddie2593]

niether

[TheRealDrache]

You spelled "neither" wrong, you get the dumb ass award.

[judonerd]

The sensei is opening himself up to an armbar and doesn't even know it.

Watch the first Hughes - St. Pierre UFC match and see how it ends if you doubt me...

[judonerd]

That would be UFC 50:

youtube dot com/watch?v=KbKpj7b_Vks

[cryingindian]

I think hes just showing one possible movement from that position. of course there are counters to everything but its still a worthwhile technique to learn or at least experiment with. I think that this would only be useful in gi grappling, expecially with the use of the belt at the end

[Budokan1]

Oh dear....

I can calm you that this particular Kaeshi waza is very old and also very well known, "even" to this sensei.

Is there one judo waza which has no kaeshi waza?

Why do Seoi Nage? there are dozens of counter to seoi nage!

Pinning your opponent definitly invites a turn over and the danger to be pinned yourself!

A good judo player is about mastering the waza and applying it so efficiently that you won't be caught by Kaeshi.

If you are around, try this counter on him, and see...

[judonerd]

I'm just surprised that, out of all the ways to attack the turtle position, he would show something that puts you on your back and opens you up to submission.

Gi or no-gi, someone will only fall for this once or twice before they start hiding their arm in their hip, step their leg over his head to brace against the roll, or learn the armbar counter.

[judonerd]

You can hide your hand in your hip to stop the sub, you can step over their head to brace against the roll, you can flatten them facedown and reverse their ude garami with an ude of your own, or you can spin into the armbar counter. Its way too dangerous.

...and good judo players aren't trying to master every tech under the sun. They find 4 or 5 throws that work and perfect them. Why not attack with a clock choke in judo, a brabo choke in no-gi competition, or a simple foot stomp in MMA?

[Helivz]

Very interesting concepts ... good judo players aren't trying to master every ..... They find 4 or 5 throws that work and perfect them.

Bill Superfoot Wallace, said the same thing basically. He mastered four or five moves / kicks and thats is how he won his bouts.

Thanks!

[judonerd]

The sensei is opening himself up to an armbar and doesn't even know it.

[sgtjudo]

Not that great of a move. But it is another option. Judo is so much more complete and better than BJJ! Many people dont understand that sport judo will NOT show you everything there is to judo and somethings may not make sense since as a sport it is different then ufc, different rules.

[cryingindian]

Oh stop being silly your just being biased because you do judo. The gracies were taught judo. This is their version of the judo they were taught. plus i have to say, the ground work of judo comes from ju jitsu, infact all of judo comes from ju jitsu. In bjj there are less rules and different scoring, the only diff i can see is judo is more aggressive in terms of throwing and pinning

[captainamer71]

I train in BJJ and Judo and SOMBO, I like them all. They all three came from jujitsu that is correct.

[Acelif]

Judo branched from Jujitsu

BJJ and Sambo are both rooted to Judo.

[dunkelblau2006]

Judo branched from Jiu Jitsu styles (more than one style).

And Jiu Jitsu styles come straight out of samurai fighting!!

[Samperor]

What do you think should a small frame person should learn? Judo, BJJ or Sambo?

[UmDiaEuFicoBom]

I practice both judo and bjj, but I`m not a small guy. Any of them will tech you what you need to know in order to defeat a much bigger guy, assuming this guy does not know how to grapple. It`s a matter of style really. BJJ has more emphasis in ground work and judo has more emphasis in throws. I couldn`t pick just one, so I practice both, which I strongly recomend.

If you intend to fight multiple oponents, I wouldn`t use bjj. Other than that, it`s great.

I don`t know much about sambo...

[mightymk]

sambo is prety overrated because of some realy succesfull MMA fighters.

sambo is a good sport and has nice techniques, but its mostly praised for succes of a single or maybe a few MMA fighters.

i'm a judoka myself so if you ask me i'll go with judo of course.

either way i'd say if you like ground work more go with BJJ if you like standing tech more go with judo.

[neomauresque]

Technically JUDO is more all round cos of Nage waza , ashi waza, koshi waza, jime waza,atemi waza , gatame waza,kansetsu waza Ne waza. and the Judo attitude get je out of trouble!! later if you want to extend your Ne waza skills you can do BJJ but you will see they gone learn more from you then you from them !

[nushizzle369]

bjj

[RasAlGhul4000]

They are all good, bjj if you like ground work, judo if you like standing (still has groundwork but is becomming more limited due to olympic rule changes) and sombo's probably in the middle. I'd say go along and see what you enjoy though assuming you're not a pro fighter or something. Build doesn't have a lot to do with it it's all about technique mate! Technique technique technique.

[tcoc89]

y not choke him? judo newaza makes me angry, they have awesome throws but on the ground they are like first week bjj students and always are giving up their backs......ridiculous

[Isaidshutup]

Backs are usually given in judo because referees will stand up players after 15 or so seconds when no leeway is made. Tapping someone in a couple of seconds from the turtle position is pretty hard. It makes a lot of sense to give the back when you read the rules to Judo matches.

[mlnrscpe]

Maybe you should train Judo a few years so you'd know what it is. Because in my town BJJ, Judo and some wrestlers crosstrain quite a bit and if you want success these days you have to. If you don't train Judo then you would suck in BJJ and vise versa.

[tcoc89]

ummm i do train all three actually, and i find that bjj/wrestling are superior to judo. granted if it was a judo match the wrestler or the bjj guy would probably lose but if it was a nhb or submission grappling match the other two would win. been there done it seen it

[mlnrscpe]

Could you tell me the name of the city you train in so I could see how many winners come from your city. I my town the judokas who also compete in wrestling are dominating the competitions in both judo and wresting. There is only one logical reason for their success. Crosstraining. The guy who runs the BJJ class in town used to and is still training Judo and Shooto. He teaches up-to-date BJJ and Shooto stuff in our Judo class. And it all makes sense. Even Bruce Lee knew it 30 years ago.

[mlnrscpe]

Could you tell me the name of the city you train in so I could see how many winners come from your city. I my town the judokas who also compete in wrestling are dominating the competitions in both judo and wresting. There is only one logical reason for their success. Crosstraining. The guy who runs the BJJ class in town used to and is still training Judo and Shooto. He teaches up-to-date BJJ and Shooto stuff in our Judo class. And it all makes sense. Even Bruce Lee knew it 30 years ago.

[samluke8121]

@mlnrscpe Sambo and Judo are the best to crosstrain in.

[lunchboxafterhours]

no lol just lock ur legs so armlock cant fail

[lunchboxafterhours]

kinda stupid actually really stupid why would u want to pin them by turning them over with a armbar when u can just submit them with the same armbar

[danceHARDorDIE]

its not stupid, its a good transition in case the armlock fails

[stevemarce1988]

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[judorican]

judo rules!!!!!!!!!

[smileyman223336]

Thanks.