i love ford i have a sherrod 500s myself am about to trade up to either the boss 302 or wait for the 2013 gt500 my only beef with ford is that they will not upgrade their damn brakes it is irritating
i may own 2 mustangs at the moment, but in total ive had 3 mustangs, a shit ton of camaros, and even a datona. so cut this rivilry shit. mustangs have their faults and i find the camaros to be to confineing, so there. old/ clasic cars rule. period end of story so dont bring in the older cars
Dodge trolls get the FUCK off of here. . . This car demolishes your pussy ass 6.4 L Cars. . Who cares about a Hemi? You guys offer a Hemi is nearly every vehichle. . It isn't special at all. . . . This car takes a shit all over your Hemi. . 0-60 in 3.97 With OVER a Liter less. . . You guys are the laughing stock of America, just go under again please.
@rawbeatzz091 your an ass. im not a "dodge troll" but i love mopar. the hemi is a beast. it just isnt designed to compete how you want it to. your right they arnt as statisticly good. but drive one, it will be a hell of a ride(if you arnt pussy enough to push it)
@rawbeatzz091 (con't) personally im a ford fan, but id trade an srt8 for a gt or an ss pretty quickly. granted the 5.7 is kinda sad, but the hemis are a strong, powerfull,DEPENDABLE, old style, v8's. hell even the 6.1 hemi is better in my opinon to the ls3, and its the old one.
@rawbeatzz091 They put 5.0L's in trucks...and it works great there too, but not special. Bottom line, everyone does or has made both good and bad cars. We should be so lucky to have the reliable performance offered today. Heck, free engineering is a forum away these days. Not the case that long ago but we haven't developed a truly new style since the late 40's, early 50's. A little in the 60's then what we have today. Powertrain is the best ever now though.
@blueandluna you rounded up and i rounded down, big deal. i'll agree with you on the color scheme, but mustang brand name aside, it's a dope ride for the price. shelby's aren't crazy money either, they're about 10-15k more than a boss. it honestly sounds like you're just a hater.
@blueandluna what are you talking about?! way too much money for a car that's faster than a new M3, shelby, and an audi R8 around laguna seca?!! 40k is a smokin deal for a car this fast.
Ringer. Someone need to do an independent test. 444 flywheel would only show about 375-380 to the rear wheels. did they bypass the rear exhaust and run side pipe only??
@habib99f lol I'd rather buy a car that doesn't feel like shit when I drive it everyday and can has the ability to go up driveways and speed bumps not to mention dominate m3's and r8s
chevy fans on youtube are literally retarded and have no experience with ford, let alone most of them have never even driven a camaro only seen the cute little v6 burnouts on youtube
@kooperiee very true yes we have our favorites like mine is the mustang i own a new 5.0 and love it but american muscle is american muscle its not sayin ford muscle or chevy muscle
@kooperiee ikr i like camaros bcas they look cool (to me) and there less common than mustangs but i like mustangs also bcas they look cool and they r BETTER cars but who givs a fuck rite. jst sayin
look. in simple terms. the comaro was built to look nice, sound nice, to obey the law, and to make grandparents seem cooler. the mustang was built to race. ford wants you to race the mustang. they will sell you the computer system and all the other shit so you can race it. truth is you dont need that shit. mustangs will smoke comaros any day. i have a 2004 mustang gt with flowmaster high-flow cats and a borla cat-back exhaust and a ram air intake. i raced a new comaro with a supercharger and won
@gkauffman2121 Neither Mustangs nor Camaro's were built to "race". They're quick cars for sure but neither one is built for a track (save maybe the Boss 302). The LS1 Camaro's definitely had a performance advantage over the SN-95 Mustangs. I'm glad to see that Ford has finally broken out of the "add another 15 horsepower per generation" habit and built a badass Mustang (the 5.0). I would definitely take the 5.0 over the LS3 Camaro, otherwise I prefer Camaro's usually. To each his own.
Okay for you guys who are saying a cts-v is faster its not the boss rapes this car in everyway the track strip the car will run 12.3 at 119 cts are running 12.8 they don't even touch the gt 500 or gt.
Some nice CTS-V runs for a more accurate reference... This thing weighs +600 LBS over the Boss 302 (+500 over Camaro SS) and still runs insane times...
/watch?v=imRQQ8RYyxk
/watch?v=lW9RlvCRJmc
The Boss ran close on Drag Radials, but still a just a hair slower...
/watch?v=VLmXeUflf4I
Still, to be fair, the Boss motor is brand new and the CTS-V LS1 has been around a bit longer. So I'm sure time will make the Boss even better!
@maddogfarg0 That first CTS-V has full bolt-ons minus a pulley, listen to it, LOL. Modded is a entire different scenario.
BTW, the CTS-V is not an LS1, it's an LSA. LS1 was the first generation of LS motors which is extent. The LSA is based off the LS3 but built with low compression and a different cam profile for boost.
@maddogfarg0 Oh god dude, that video is on the Cadillac forums. STOP LYING. It's childish, seriously.
It has longtune headers, a tune and a CAI. The only mods it doesn't have is a pulley. Stock CTS-Vs are very quiet, stop talking like a 10 year old, that car is loud like a Mustang.
99.99% of CTS-Vs run between 12.2-12.4s@115-117mph, less than .01% have run quicker stock, again, stop lying. Go ahead and search it.
@maddogfarg0 As for the rest of your comment, sigh, I'm left teaching the children again.
The LSA is way different than the LS9. It doesn't have forged internals, no SS headers, no titanium valves, it's got the smaller 1.9TVS supercharger, no dry sump oiling, etc, etc. The only similarities is it's a 6.2L with a supercharger kiddo.
@DeAdiSSu3 Well for one, numbers on paper don't mean anything. Second 444 hp isn't just under 500 hp.
Third, yes this car is quick, though not as quick as a GTR which has Twin Turbo and AWD. The 2012 GTR also gets launch control back and dynos in nearly the same power to the ground as the BOSS mustang makes. Now I'm not someone who loves imports, I love American muscle.. But if you look at numbers on paper, you know nothing about how cars perform.
@imachewiebar Easy there killer, I look at numbers on paper as well as any other info I can find, track vids, whatever, not sure what you're trying to say but the new stangs are a couple hundred pounds lighter than the GTRs, really makes the most difference under braking and for turn-in response...and for me personally, a naturally aspirated mustang making over 400 horsepower at the wheels might as well be 500 hp, shit, I mean, it's close enough for me! It's a pretty epic car
So even with a conservative 10% power loss at the wheels, that means it's making 457+hp and 390lb.ft...and they advertise 444hp and 380lb.ft. Sounds like this engine is underrated just like the 318hp 3.7 and detuned 425hp 5.0....
@sidefx996 I personally love the Mustang in any form, but the R8 to me is purely orgasmic. Best looking exotic I've ever laid eyes on, fortunately, the Boss/GT500 is practically as fast and like 1/3 the price so that and that alone makes up my mind lol. Besides R8s aren't THAT fast, Corvettes and GTs can outrun them, they just look and sound like heaven...
I just got to ride in a laguna seca that my neighbor brought home for the weekend, this is by far going to be the sweetest mustang on the road in 2012
@braddfordy thanks for your help man yea i havn't called him back about it but also let me ask you this were there any gt350s made in 2008? because he keeps calling it a boss but if I remember correctly it said gt350 on the side im like 60 % sure
@braddfordy thanks for your help man yea i havn't called him back about it but also let me ask you this were there any gt350s made in 2008? because he keeps calling it a boss but if I remember correctly it said gt350 on the side im like 60 % sure
@braddfordy thanks for your help man yea i havn't called him back about it but also let me ask you this were there any gt350s made in 2008? because he keeps calling it a boss but if I remember correctly it said gt350 on the side im like 60 % sure
@braddfordy thanks for your help man yea i havn't called him back about it but also let me ask you this were there any gt350s made in 2008? because he keeps calling it a boss but if I remember correctly it said gt350 on the side im like 60 % sure
@braddfordy they had the specs of it on fmcdealer. same stroke as the 5.4 just the bore was bigger so high horsepower numbers but torque might not be as high.
So if my calculations are correct, this mustang should have 460-470 Crank HP which is 20-30 more hp than what its supposed to be... Sounds good to me! Now only if I could get the local dealers to not charge gt500 price...
@Mario4Italy A stock 5.0 Gt makes about 366 at tthe wheels. So the Boss makes about 50 rwhp more that the GT. You also get a vastly better suspension upgrade and interior and exterior upgrades too.
@niuguy07 Ok well we all know that the upgrades can be purchased for less, otherwise that would be bad business for ford. A fast lane turbo kit can produce around 540hp to the wheels. A kit plus suspension comparable to the boss, exterior trim and interior trim and you would spend right around the same money.
What would you pick? Please reply I'm curious (non sarcastically)
@Mario4Italy The good part about the boss is that it comes with a warrenty from the factory, is limited, and has beefed up internals. If you go with the turbo kit, my fear is that the engine will fail under the boost of the turbo. I know that 540rwhp in a 4.6L would most likely at some point would cause an engine failure without gutting the motor and replacing it with forged parts.
@niuguy07 Cont... A friend of mine bought a 2011 roush mustang with the 750 hp supercharger option. The rebuilt the 5.0 motor with all forger internals and racing transmission made this thing bullit proof. Or so he thought. When he went to pick it up at the Roush factory, they took him out on their test track to see the cars potential. After he drove it a couple of laps the pro took over. On lap 5 , the motor blew. 2 bad bearings+ a faulty crank = BOOM! You never know.
@niuguy07 Ya I can understand the part about the warranty, the engine I was referring to was the new 5.0 in the 2011 + mustangs, not the 4.6L. The boost is also low at around 6-7psi I believe.
the standard boss 302 is putting in times at the Laguna Seca track that are very close to the Audi R8 and faster than the GTR's lap time. Looks like the solid rear axle is staying for a good reason?
@shermanatortank uhh no. They are jut as good as the GTR lap time. Meaning it can compete with those types of cars. I highly doubt this can be as good as an R8. Those move faster and tighter then this car around a track. That doesnt mean this isnt a beast car, i mean its doing well as is. And i want of these things so bad, to bad i dont have a job or a way to get a job since everything here is taken [besides Micky D's, but the manager is dick buckes]
@shermanatortank Amen, its like any other manufacturers out there, they are evolving their sports car. Look at Porsche's 911, everyone knows that the rear engine layout is not the greatest layout. But Porsche evolved it into a real sports car, same with the Corvettes leaf springs (correct me if im wrong that all corvettes had leaf spring).
@1vdn992 How many different videos did you post this comment on? You seriously need a life dude! Only you would get all happy about a 2012 beating an already outdated 2009 model.
In short all I'm trying to say is that there is more to making a great sports car than just numbers. S2000 has a great engineering feat of a motor. Coupled with a 50/50 weight. And unmatched driver feel. There is a reason why that car was picked as a car to drive before you die above a vette, mustang, lotus, boxter. Look up 10 cars to drive before you die and read it for yourself.
@thearfdog. Don't really understand the rc comment, not even applicable. So are you saying that a 2.0l that makes 250hp without any type of forced induction is whimpy?? The coyote is a great motor for sure. But does it make 625hp?
@Ogletorp. Lotus makes some great cars without a doubt. But lotus wasn't even in the mix of cars I mentioned. People picked a s2000 over a 1000hp plus veyron. And whimpy?!? What part of 125 naturally aspirated hp per liter is whimpy? S2000 held the record for highest horsepower per liter of a production vehicle up untill Ferrari made the 458 italia. And that beat the s2000 by .5 hp per liter. I know this is completely irrelevant to anyone elses comments but there's more to a car than big motors
@trev4vis Doesnt really matter if it has the highest hp per liter its still not a fast car. My 1000cc sportbike cranks out 200 hp and will run 9 second quarters all day but if I stick the engine in a miata its not fast anymore. Power to weight is key.
@trev4vis Yeah, that F20C engine ranks among some of the best ever in the <= 2.0L class. ~250HP NA out of 2.0L is definitely no joking matter. There are numerous tuned F20C NA engines pumping out 300HP and better. Besides, Lotus - though a great car overall - has Toyota sourced engines (1ZZ and 2ZZ engines ... also great engines). Agreed, the big motors thing is a primitive, machoism "Me Grok, find fancy rock" kinda thing. Nothing wrong with that, as most of us males have a little of this, LOL.
If you want a true performance car, go drive a s2000. Neither the mustang or the corvette can even come near the experience you will have in that car. In fact of the top 11 cars ever produced, car and driver readers picked the s2000 as a car you need to drive before you die. Second to a veyron and a mclaren f1. Discussion ended.
@trev4vis That's laughable man. The S2000?? It doesn't even handle as good as a Boxster, which is an awesome handler. I drove one and even the regular C5 is way, way more fun around the road course.
ok chevy morons knows nothing about the mustangs and if they bringing zr1 ofcourse its gona beat BOSS but the stupid chevy morons forgetting about one thing THE SHELBY GT500 SUPER SNAKE kills zr1 in no time
Come on DIRECT INJECTION!!! I bet it'll be coming soon. I've always been a GM fan, but as soon as I graduated.... I'm sorry, I love my ls1 but I think it's BOSS time.
@OgleTorp please stop with your stupidity!go out and buy the new issue of 5.0 magazine.they did a head to head test of the potential the new 5.0 has vs the GT500.read which is better.
@drfaticus No thanks. I have driven both and the low to mid range power is lacking to say the least especially with the 5.0 mustang. I will stick with my 427 and 488 for the street.
@drfaticus I dont know why you talk such shit on the camaro . The mustang and camaro could not be more similar. They are both entry level performance cars. Where do you think the title PONY CAR came from.
@OgleTorp to me,the camaro is junk.the insides are terrible,with the gages at the bottom.i have always said,the challenger looks better than the camaro.im not anti chevy or dodge.right now,FORD has the faster car.i talk trash about the imposter in chief of this country.how he is killing america.i talked about all of these presidents that have killed america.i talk about the fake global warming crap they try to impose on us.i deal with far more than just cars.
@drfaticus I agree and disagree with you. Im not a fan of the camaro or mustang. When I look at both at the dealerships they just look like generic cars with thier black plastic grills, skinny tires, and small brake rotors. They look like $20k cars at best. Let the truth be known that Chevrolet has the faster car now with the ZR1 .
Um, 416rwhp = 478hp at the crank, (assuming 15% drivetrain loss). The Boss is going to be a beast. What's REALLY going to be funny is, the tables might be turned with the GM fans. With the trackpack the BOSS will weigh 3300lbs.
The Camaro ZL1 with 550hp is going to have a 4300lb estimated curb weight.
478hp@3300lbs
vs
550hp@4300lbs
HAHAHA, an N/A little 5.0L Mustang holding it's ground against a supercharged 6.2L car.
@extremer113752 Yeah, there comes a piece of crap economy car with a big laggy turbo. Put that same turbo on a 5.0L that revs to 8,000rpms and it's bye bye economy car with AWD that breaks down every 10-15 hard launches.
@extremer113752 Imprezas look FUCKING GAY. At least the Evo looks a little more aggressive but the Impreza is just gay. By the way that is the only way Imprezas can keep up. With turbos. Meanwhile this BOSS 302 will kick ass all naturale.
@svt11111 That is still roughly 800 pounds heavier than my 83 O.O ! IMO, They have made these cars lighter, but i would still like to see them at the weight that they used to be with the technology that they have now.
@svt11111 sadly your mistaken their is no "Trackpack", only the LS package and it weight 3600lbs. 3300lbs?? sound like you quoting the RTR-C mustang that v gitting JR made, using carbon fiber body parts. their no way the LS dropped 300lbs with just a simple rear seat delete, beside the LS is speck't at 3600lbs in Ford own website.
@svt11111 Damn skippy! Actually, closer to 12% loss, due to the new tranny. Am glad to see someone with their eyes open regarding displacement comparisons! It is akin to Forrest Griffin beating the dog shit out of Brok Lesnor - more isn't always better. I get SO phuck'n tired of the displacement ignorance of the GM crowd - absolutely numb skulled I think! I digress, the only appealing thing to me about the ZL1 would be their attention to wheels and brakes. I can't say much about their "IRS."
@svt11111 you don`t think 15% is a little much, considered new tech and a new car. and the 550camaro hp could easily be 600 real world. you just sound a little biased^^. i like the mustang more, mind you.
@redneck9507 Wrong, all the Boss 302s make the same power, they all have the exact same engine, the Boss 302. The Seca edition is just a race version with a rear-seat delete and x-brace for chassis improvement. As well as r compound tires, a front splitter and a bigger wing.
@svt11111 You are gonna be sadly disappointed when the ZL1 kills this turd. The boss wont even be able to run with a base C6 vette let alone anything chevrolet offers with a compressor.
@OgleTorp Too late oglyporker, Motortrend just tested a BASE Boss LS and ran a 12.3@ almost 116mph. That's faster than they tested a base Corvette at.
Yup, an N/A, steel bodied, pony car that seats 4 is faster than a plastic, fiberglass, 2 seater hollow sports car that costs $10,000 more.
Oh, and it's coincidentally just as fast as what they tested a CTS-V coupe at, which GM already said will be a clone of the new ZL1 will be able to achieve.
@svt11111 I have seen the base vette run faster than 12.3! Is the boss a drag car? NO! What about top speed and handling dumbass? You mustang morons are all the same narrow minded idiots.
@svt11111 Yes, actually I do top speed testing and events. Building an engine that makes horsepower is easy. Making big numbers and still having torque is another. Boss torque numbers are not so great now are they? Love the measly 285 rear tires too. My ZO6 has 325's in the rear and 275's in front and it will do over 195mph bone stock. Mustang morons never care about top speed. Good thing cause they dont have any top end.
@svt11111 I have also seen the base corvette run almost identical numbers to the gt500 until about 125mph and then it just drives away to 190 when the GT500 falls flat on its face at about 150mph.
@OgleTorp The GT500 has a governor you loser, and stop making up stories. Where did you see a Corvette racing to 190mph? Oh that's right, you didn't ricer boy. You read in a magazine that's it's top speed so felt like making an up an imaginary story on youtube.
@svt11111 Just because you dont have the balls or car to go fast doesnt mean the rest of us cant. Thats one thing you mustang morons dont realize, Corvettes are 200mph cars and they are still more stable at that speed than a mustang at 125mph.
@svt11111 You are virtually incorrect of all that you speak. The Boss weighs in at over 3600 pounds with rear seat delete. The ZL1 will weigh right around 3900 and will have almost 600 hp. You can also stick your 15% drivetrain loss in your ass. Try about 50-60 hp loss. Your saying a car with 100 hp will only lose 15 hp and a car with 1000hp will lose 150 hp. Get your facts straight ! Just another MUSTANG MORON on youtube.
@OgleTorp Sorry to burst your bubble Einstein, but have your herd such thing as friction? Yes, 15% is about right for two tires, if more tires then coefficient of friction will go up. Get yourself a physics book instead of coloring book.
@Boysya So if you take the same car and put a 100 hp engine in it will only lose 15hp and the same car with a 1000hp will lose 150hp? Its not rocket science its common sense.
The ZL1 weighs 42xxlbs, stop making up lies kid. The Camaro SS already weighs 3900lbs, then add a forged motor, supercharger, magnetic ride, brakes, bigger wheels, interior upgrades and the works.
Stupid ricer making up lies on youtube, lol.
Also, a fully loaded premium GT weighs 3600lbs, with a mach1000 stereo and navigation, glass roof, and heavy 19inch wheels, etc.
The Boss weighs less. Nice try though, fart poker.
@svt11111 No you idiot it is going to weigh 3,900 pounds, because they've increased the weight but they've also decreased weight in other areas. Idiot......
@svt11111 Where did you get a ZL1 4300 pound estimated curb weight? Motor Trend reports that the weight is yet to be determined. Also, if you look at the ZL1 official website, the ZL1 is expected to have at least 550 HP but it's not an official number. It can always have more considering Ford is developing a minimum 600 HP 5.8 liter GT500 for 2013. (Go to CARandDRIVER for info about that.) By the way the ZL1 is lighter than the CTS-V which does 0-60 in 3.9 sec. But the 302 owns on the track.
Here is the deal, the BASE V6 Camaro weighs just as much as a BASE V6 CTS.
The Camaro is a heavy car built off a 4 door full sized sedan platform, and the ZL1 will have everything down to the magnetic ride suspension from the CTS-V. It will weigh exactly what a CTS-V weighs, 42xxlbs
@svt11111 You make an excellent point. However, I believe the power is yet to be known. The official website reports at least 550 HP but that's not an official number and it could always have even more considering the 2013 5.8 liter GT500 with a possible 620 HP. Chevy isn't going to let their new ZL1 get walked on during its debut. The ZL1 isn't even being sold yet. I think they should just drop the LS9 in there.
@elr456 Yes, the ZL1 could very well have 600hp. I'm just getting a rise out of the GM fans. "Ford's always needed to be supercharged to go fast".
Now Ford has a Mustang with a little naturally aspirated 32valve 5liter that will give GM's Camaro with a massive 6.2L with a supercharger a run for it's money.
@svt11111 Well that's because this 302's performance is truly marvelous. The GT500's numbers are around 12.4 so that's what the ZL1 was aiming at. But then comes this BOSS 302 that's even faster than the GT500 so I think they should really improve the GT500. This 302 owns the GT500 for less. It should be car of the year or something.
Was that power to the wheels?
t8trg8tr 1 day ago
i love ford i have a sherrod 500s myself am about to trade up to either the boss 302 or wait for the 2013 gt500 my only beef with ford is that they will not upgrade their damn brakes it is irritating
princeyear2k8 2 weeks ago
i may own 2 mustangs at the moment, but in total ive had 3 mustangs, a shit ton of camaros, and even a datona. so cut this rivilry shit. mustangs have their faults and i find the camaros to be to confineing, so there. old/ clasic cars rule. period end of story so dont bring in the older cars
wazxcvbnmkpoiuytre 1 month ago
Dodge trolls get the FUCK off of here. . . This car demolishes your pussy ass 6.4 L Cars. . Who cares about a Hemi? You guys offer a Hemi is nearly every vehichle. . It isn't special at all. . . . This car takes a shit all over your Hemi. . 0-60 in 3.97 With OVER a Liter less. . . You guys are the laughing stock of America, just go under again please.
rawbeatzz091 1 month ago
@rawbeatzz091 your an ass. im not a "dodge troll" but i love mopar. the hemi is a beast. it just isnt designed to compete how you want it to. your right they arnt as statisticly good. but drive one, it will be a hell of a ride(if you arnt pussy enough to push it)
wazxcvbnmkpoiuytre 1 month ago
@rawbeatzz091 (con't) personally im a ford fan, but id trade an srt8 for a gt or an ss pretty quickly. granted the 5.7 is kinda sad, but the hemis are a strong, powerfull,DEPENDABLE, old style, v8's. hell even the 6.1 hemi is better in my opinon to the ls3, and its the old one.
wazxcvbnmkpoiuytre 1 month ago
@rawbeatzz091 They put 5.0L's in trucks...and it works great there too, but not special. Bottom line, everyone does or has made both good and bad cars. We should be so lucky to have the reliable performance offered today. Heck, free engineering is a forum away these days. Not the case that long ago but we haven't developed a truly new style since the late 40's, early 50's. A little in the 60's then what we have today. Powertrain is the best ever now though.
mattsiev1 3 days ago
See video: National Speed: 2011 Dodge Challenger 392 SRT-8 - 420.22whp/419.95ftlbs...
SOFSoldier1 1 month ago
@SOFSoldier1 with the weight difference this is faster
jordtizzle 3 weeks ago
@blueandluna well then don't buy one.
justinponsayyy 3 months ago
@blueandluna you rounded up and i rounded down, big deal. i'll agree with you on the color scheme, but mustang brand name aside, it's a dope ride for the price. shelby's aren't crazy money either, they're about 10-15k more than a boss. it honestly sounds like you're just a hater.
justinponsayyy 3 months ago
@blueandluna what are you talking about?! way too much money for a car that's faster than a new M3, shelby, and an audi R8 around laguna seca?!! 40k is a smokin deal for a car this fast.
justinponsayyy 3 months ago
Ringer. Someone need to do an independent test. 444 flywheel would only show about 375-380 to the rear wheels. did they bypass the rear exhaust and run side pipe only??
quickstanger 3 months ago
50k for mustang ? no thanks
i rather buy i corvette
habib99f 3 months ago
@habib99f lol I'd rather buy a car that doesn't feel like shit when I drive it everyday and can has the ability to go up driveways and speed bumps not to mention dominate m3's and r8s
AdverbAdjective 1 month ago
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habib99f 3 months ago
The Boss is back and better than ever!
MrCleanPolo 3 months ago
holy fuck 416 rwhp stock?? christ, is that real?
chinchillawrangler 3 months ago
IS IT FOR SALE BY FORD NOW??? PM ME TO TELL ME :(
1liamjr 4 months ago
@1liamjr its been on sale for quite a few months. MSRP is about $40k, but they r selling for around $50k
1through9athrewz 4 months ago
1hp per liter, not bad.
MrOneDr 4 months ago
@MrOneDr 1 hp per liter? don't you mean approx 89 hp per liter?
tanjulio 4 months ago
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MrOneDr 4 months ago
@tanjulio Yeah, sorry
MrOneDr 4 months ago
Nope, I am a big time Chevy fan and LOVE the new Boss. Kudos to Ford, they definitly got this one right.
romanjohnston 5 months ago 3
The boss is back baby.. coming to a garage I own.. soon.
Nymbler 5 months ago 3
chevy fans on youtube are literally retarded and have no experience with ford, let alone most of them have never even driven a camaro only seen the cute little v6 burnouts on youtube
ddick4554 5 months ago 4
@ddick4554 i like my v4 burnouts.. :( but its a evo lolz and its close to as much hp as this ford. 397whp to the wheels.
WinterxFilms 4 months ago
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@WinterxFilms V-4? You just proved you know nothing about cars
flynmid 4 months ago
ive got a 67' camaro SS 396 and i want a mustang too...cant we just like all of them...from a mile away they all look the same so who gives a fuck?
kooperiee 6 months ago 30
@kooperiee I agree, Honestly people need to buy cars, not names
josh053 5 months ago
@kooperiee very true yes we have our favorites like mine is the mustang i own a new 5.0 and love it but american muscle is american muscle its not sayin ford muscle or chevy muscle
emelioDC 4 months ago
@kooperiee get that american trash out of here, german cars ftw
worldchampionboxer 4 months ago
@worldchampionboxer lol, german cars are the only other cars i will drive besides american muscle so i dont know who your hurtin
kooperiee 4 months ago
@kooperiee ikr i like camaros bcas they look cool (to me) and there less common than mustangs but i like mustangs also bcas they look cool and they r BETTER cars but who givs a fuck rite. jst sayin
3manwolfpack2 3 months ago
@3manwolfpack2 way to try and start shit...i dont care which ones better no classic car is stock now anyway....
kooperiee 3 months ago
@kooperiee how the fuck am i "starting shit" im jst tryin 2 say tht both cars r good cars i dont get y people hav 2 say shit about camaros thts all
3manwolfpack2 3 months ago
look. in simple terms. the comaro was built to look nice, sound nice, to obey the law, and to make grandparents seem cooler. the mustang was built to race. ford wants you to race the mustang. they will sell you the computer system and all the other shit so you can race it. truth is you dont need that shit. mustangs will smoke comaros any day. i have a 2004 mustang gt with flowmaster high-flow cats and a borla cat-back exhaust and a ram air intake. i raced a new comaro with a supercharger and won
gkauffman2121 6 months ago
@gkauffman2121 Neither Mustangs nor Camaro's were built to "race". They're quick cars for sure but neither one is built for a track (save maybe the Boss 302). The LS1 Camaro's definitely had a performance advantage over the SN-95 Mustangs. I'm glad to see that Ford has finally broken out of the "add another 15 horsepower per generation" habit and built a badass Mustang (the 5.0). I would definitely take the 5.0 over the LS3 Camaro, otherwise I prefer Camaro's usually. To each his own.
KTM990WFO 6 months ago
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The 392 Hemi owns this. See "2011 Challenger SRT8 392 on the Dyno at Hennessey - 2010 HEMI Highway Tour"
432HP/424 Ft-Lbs
SOFSoldier1 6 months ago
See YOUTUBE Video "2011 Challenger SRT8 392 on the Dyno at Hennessey - 2010 HEMI Highway Tour"
SOFSoldier1 7 months ago
i'm going to supercharged a boss. !
Plaayboarding 7 months ago
The comments on this page really do prove that GM fans have mental shortcomings
qdog79 7 months ago 42
@qdog79 lmao
jayman81424 3 days ago
Okay for you guys who are saying a cts-v is faster its not the boss rapes this car in everyway the track strip the car will run 12.3 at 119 cts are running 12.8 they don't even touch the gt 500 or gt.
SHTINONCHEVY 7 months ago
Some nice CTS-V runs for a more accurate reference... This thing weighs +600 LBS over the Boss 302 (+500 over Camaro SS) and still runs insane times...
/watch?v=imRQQ8RYyxk
/watch?v=lW9RlvCRJmc
The Boss ran close on Drag Radials, but still a just a hair slower...
/watch?v=VLmXeUflf4I
Still, to be fair, the Boss motor is brand new and the CTS-V LS1 has been around a bit longer. So I'm sure time will make the Boss even better!
maddogfarg0 8 months ago
@maddogfarg0 That first CTS-V has full bolt-ons minus a pulley, listen to it, LOL. Modded is a entire different scenario.
BTW, the CTS-V is not an LS1, it's an LSA. LS1 was the first generation of LS motors which is extent. The LSA is based off the LS3 but built with low compression and a different cam profile for boost.
svt11111 8 months ago
@svt11111 You obviously don't know WTF you're talking about.
Any idiot knows you cant tell if it's modded just by the sound.
No mods listed in ref vids. Drag slips that DO show cam/tune mods also show a 10.87 time, stock boost.
Never said the LSA was an LS1. Since you brought it up AND got it WRONG I'll correct that too.
The 2009 LSA is based on the Corvette C6 ZR1 LS9.
The stock sedan 6spd automatic runs 12.0 @ 118, 3rd party verified.
Just deal with it already.
maddogfarg0 8 months ago
@maddogfarg0 Oh god dude, that video is on the Cadillac forums. STOP LYING. It's childish, seriously.
It has longtune headers, a tune and a CAI. The only mods it doesn't have is a pulley. Stock CTS-Vs are very quiet, stop talking like a 10 year old, that car is loud like a Mustang.
99.99% of CTS-Vs run between 12.2-12.4s@115-117mph, less than .01% have run quicker stock, again, stop lying. Go ahead and search it.
svt11111 7 months ago
@maddogfarg0 As for the rest of your comment, sigh, I'm left teaching the children again.
The LSA is way different than the LS9. It doesn't have forged internals, no SS headers, no titanium valves, it's got the smaller 1.9TVS supercharger, no dry sump oiling, etc, etc. The only similarities is it's a 6.2L with a supercharger kiddo.
svt11111 7 months ago
I wouldn't buy it being faster than a GTR. That's silly. An Audi r8 I could believe.
imachewiebar 8 months ago
@imachewiebar Why can't you see it being quicker than a gtr? It's lighter than the gtr and it has just under 500 horsepower at the flywheel.
DeAdiSSu3 8 months ago
@DeAdiSSu3 Well for one, numbers on paper don't mean anything. Second 444 hp isn't just under 500 hp.
Third, yes this car is quick, though not as quick as a GTR which has Twin Turbo and AWD. The 2012 GTR also gets launch control back and dynos in nearly the same power to the ground as the BOSS mustang makes. Now I'm not someone who loves imports, I love American muscle.. But if you look at numbers on paper, you know nothing about how cars perform.
imachewiebar 8 months ago
@imachewiebar Easy there killer, I look at numbers on paper as well as any other info I can find, track vids, whatever, not sure what you're trying to say but the new stangs are a couple hundred pounds lighter than the GTRs, really makes the most difference under braking and for turn-in response...and for me personally, a naturally aspirated mustang making over 400 horsepower at the wheels might as well be 500 hp, shit, I mean, it's close enough for me! It's a pretty epic car
DeAdiSSu3 8 months ago
So even with a conservative 10% power loss at the wheels, that means it's making 457+hp and 390lb.ft...and they advertise 444hp and 380lb.ft. Sounds like this engine is underrated just like the 318hp 3.7 and detuned 425hp 5.0....
yellowmusicfreak 8 months ago
they should make a z28 camaro to fit in between the zl1 and ss with a ls7 and have it be lighter, that would be cool
n9athan 9 months ago
Those are great numbers at the wheels given ford's advertised crank numbers
Sadfhorde 9 months ago
This car is definitely going to ruffle some feathers..."It can't be as fast as a GTR!" "It can't be as fast as an R8!" LOL yes it can, get over it.
sidefx996 9 months ago
@sidefx996 I personally love the Mustang in any form, but the R8 to me is purely orgasmic. Best looking exotic I've ever laid eyes on, fortunately, the Boss/GT500 is practically as fast and like 1/3 the price so that and that alone makes up my mind lol. Besides R8s aren't THAT fast, Corvettes and GTs can outrun them, they just look and sound like heaven...
yellowmusicfreak 8 months ago
so goddamn ugly it hurts
socalpimp1974 9 months ago
Can you put a vortex supercharger in this and is it safe ? How many more horsepower would it have ?
funny4ever1 9 months ago
I just got to ride in a laguna seca that my neighbor brought home for the weekend, this is by far going to be the sweetest mustang on the road in 2012
pmrboy369 9 months ago
@braddfordy thanks for your help man yea i havn't called him back about it but also let me ask you this were there any gt350s made in 2008? because he keeps calling it a boss but if I remember correctly it said gt350 on the side im like 60 % sure
Samimiamiv1 10 months ago
@braddfordy thanks for your help man yea i havn't called him back about it but also let me ask you this were there any gt350s made in 2008? because he keeps calling it a boss but if I remember correctly it said gt350 on the side im like 60 % sure
Samimiamiv1 10 months ago
@braddfordy thanks for your help man yea i havn't called him back about it but also let me ask you this were there any gt350s made in 2008? because he keeps calling it a boss but if I remember correctly it said gt350 on the side im like 60 % sure
Samimiamiv1 10 months ago
@braddfordy thanks for your help man yea i havn't called him back about it but also let me ask you this were there any gt350s made in 2008? because he keeps calling it a boss but if I remember correctly it said gt350 on the side im like 60 % sure
Samimiamiv1 10 months ago
It's a bored 5.4 dohc to 5.8 making 625 hp for the new shelby
santiagomel00 10 months ago
@santiagomel00 its was rumored to be a long stroke coyote motor!
braddfordy 10 months ago
@braddfordy they had the specs of it on fmcdealer. same stroke as the 5.4 just the bore was bigger so high horsepower numbers but torque might not be as high.
santiagomel00 10 months ago
So if my calculations are correct, this mustang should have 460-470 Crank HP which is 20-30 more hp than what its supposed to be... Sounds good to me! Now only if I could get the local dealers to not charge gt500 price...
Harlingen78 10 months ago
$9000 for the boss 302 for only a 36 hp gain?? Why not Turbo, this way you could have 540 RWHP
Mario4Italy 10 months ago
@Mario4Italy A stock 5.0 Gt makes about 366 at tthe wheels. So the Boss makes about 50 rwhp more that the GT. You also get a vastly better suspension upgrade and interior and exterior upgrades too.
niuguy07 10 months ago
@niuguy07 Ok well we all know that the upgrades can be purchased for less, otherwise that would be bad business for ford. A fast lane turbo kit can produce around 540hp to the wheels. A kit plus suspension comparable to the boss, exterior trim and interior trim and you would spend right around the same money.
What would you pick? Please reply I'm curious (non sarcastically)
Mario4Italy 10 months ago
@Mario4Italy The good part about the boss is that it comes with a warrenty from the factory, is limited, and has beefed up internals. If you go with the turbo kit, my fear is that the engine will fail under the boost of the turbo. I know that 540rwhp in a 4.6L would most likely at some point would cause an engine failure without gutting the motor and replacing it with forged parts.
niuguy07 10 months ago
@niuguy07 Cont... A friend of mine bought a 2011 roush mustang with the 750 hp supercharger option. The rebuilt the 5.0 motor with all forger internals and racing transmission made this thing bullit proof. Or so he thought. When he went to pick it up at the Roush factory, they took him out on their test track to see the cars potential. After he drove it a couple of laps the pro took over. On lap 5 , the motor blew. 2 bad bearings+ a faulty crank = BOOM! You never know.
niuguy07 10 months ago
@niuguy07 Ya I can understand the part about the warranty, the engine I was referring to was the new 5.0 in the 2011 + mustangs, not the 4.6L. The boost is also low at around 6-7psi I believe.
Mario4Italy 10 months ago
@Mario4Italy People are running supercharges around 9-11lbs
hiimdrummer03 10 months ago
the standard boss 302 is putting in times at the Laguna Seca track that are very close to the Audi R8 and faster than the GTR's lap time. Looks like the solid rear axle is staying for a good reason?
shermanatortank 11 months ago 31
@shermanatortank 2012 gtr will take it
miketothesupra 10 months ago
@shermanatortank uhh no. They are jut as good as the GTR lap time. Meaning it can compete with those types of cars. I highly doubt this can be as good as an R8. Those move faster and tighter then this car around a track. That doesnt mean this isnt a beast car, i mean its doing well as is. And i want of these things so bad, to bad i dont have a job or a way to get a job since everything here is taken [besides Micky D's, but the manager is dick buckes]
kreepyderk 10 months ago
@kreepyderk: "I highly doubt this can be as good as an R8."
Actually the Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS posted a slightly quicker lap time on the Laguna than the R8. There is a video of it on here somewhere.
V8Supercar1 9 months ago
@shermanatortank It beat out the GTR? Jesus... That's ridiculous. I hope the 2012 GTR still gets beat. I guess nissan's been doin homework this year.
p10ghost 9 months ago
@shermanatortank Amen, its like any other manufacturers out there, they are evolving their sports car. Look at Porsche's 911, everyone knows that the rear engine layout is not the greatest layout. But Porsche evolved it into a real sports car, same with the Corvettes leaf springs (correct me if im wrong that all corvettes had leaf spring).
djmarkian 9 months ago
which dyno was this? dyno dynamics?
eapaaa 11 months ago
So with 17% drive train loss that equates to 501hp and 427lb/ft at the crank.
MrOneDr 11 months ago
@MrOneDr yea its 15-20% drive train loss
MrMustangnate 11 months ago
@MrOneDr Isn't that awesome!
289pinto 10 months ago
Good stuff, thanks for sharing.
CarVideoSpot 11 months ago
dyno is for faggots,
maitrekenshin93 11 months ago
2012 BOSS Mustang posts a faster lap time at Laguna Seca than a 2009 Nissan GT-R
watch?v=BxEhnugwzCc
1vdn992 11 months ago
@1vdn992 How many different videos did you post this comment on? You seriously need a life dude! Only you would get all happy about a 2012 beating an already outdated 2009 model.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp Yeah dude, and all the geniuses who paid 90,000 for their Nissans, 2009 - 2011, get beat buy Ford that costs half what they paid.
Don't worry dude, I barely give you the time of day.
1vdn992 11 months ago
@OgleTorp I see 1vdn992 blow up doll has another hole and hes bored TIME TO CUT AND PASTE
gmrtg1414 11 months ago
In short all I'm trying to say is that there is more to making a great sports car than just numbers. S2000 has a great engineering feat of a motor. Coupled with a 50/50 weight. And unmatched driver feel. There is a reason why that car was picked as a car to drive before you die above a vette, mustang, lotus, boxter. Look up 10 cars to drive before you die and read it for yourself.
trev4vis 11 months ago
@thearfdog. Don't really understand the rc comment, not even applicable. So are you saying that a 2.0l that makes 250hp without any type of forced induction is whimpy?? The coyote is a great motor for sure. But does it make 625hp?
trev4vis 11 months ago
@Ogletorp. Lotus makes some great cars without a doubt. But lotus wasn't even in the mix of cars I mentioned. People picked a s2000 over a 1000hp plus veyron. And whimpy?!? What part of 125 naturally aspirated hp per liter is whimpy? S2000 held the record for highest horsepower per liter of a production vehicle up untill Ferrari made the 458 italia. And that beat the s2000 by .5 hp per liter. I know this is completely irrelevant to anyone elses comments but there's more to a car than big motors
trev4vis 11 months ago
@trev4vis Doesnt really matter if it has the highest hp per liter its still not a fast car. My 1000cc sportbike cranks out 200 hp and will run 9 second quarters all day but if I stick the engine in a miata its not fast anymore. Power to weight is key.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@trev4vis Yeah, that F20C engine ranks among some of the best ever in the <= 2.0L class. ~250HP NA out of 2.0L is definitely no joking matter. There are numerous tuned F20C NA engines pumping out 300HP and better. Besides, Lotus - though a great car overall - has Toyota sourced engines (1ZZ and 2ZZ engines ... also great engines). Agreed, the big motors thing is a primitive, machoism "Me Grok, find fancy rock" kinda thing. Nothing wrong with that, as most of us males have a little of this, LOL.
9b8 11 months ago
@trev4vis OK but a little R/C motor makes 110 hp/L. You wouldn't put that in a car would you? Because it's whimpy.
TheArfdog 11 months ago
If you want a true performance car, go drive a s2000. Neither the mustang or the corvette can even come near the experience you will have in that car. In fact of the top 11 cars ever produced, car and driver readers picked the s2000 as a car you need to drive before you die. Second to a veyron and a mclaren f1. Discussion ended.
trev4vis 11 months ago
@trev4vis GOOD GRIEF MAN! They handle great but are whimpy. You could have atleast picked the Lotus.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@trev4vis That's laughable man. The S2000?? It doesn't even handle as good as a Boxster, which is an awesome handler. I drove one and even the regular C5 is way, way more fun around the road course.
TheArfdog 11 months ago
So the car only loses about 30hp from engine to wheels. Sounds like this car put out more like 470-480hp
santiagomel00 11 months ago
does anyone actually own one. Id think someone would be driving it near me
wonderbreadkw 11 months ago
@OgleTorp no those tracks r for corvettes
azam1123 11 months ago
@azam1123 A track for Corvettes? Its in Germany.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
ok chevy morons knows nothing about the mustangs and if they bringing zr1 ofcourse its gona beat BOSS but the stupid chevy morons forgetting about one thing THE SHELBY GT500 SUPER SNAKE kills zr1 in no time
azam1123 11 months ago
@azam1123 Whats the Super Snake run Nurburgring? Yeah, thats what I thought!
OgleTorp 11 months ago
Come on DIRECT INJECTION!!! I bet it'll be coming soon. I've always been a GM fan, but as soon as I graduated.... I'm sorry, I love my ls1 but I think it's BOSS time.
bge9198 11 months ago
A little ol' 302 causing this much jealousy. Gotta love it.
FoodMoTron3k 11 months ago
6 people are gay camaro fans
Houstonkiller713 11 months ago
@Houstonkiller713 the CRAPMARO is junk.
drfaticus 11 months ago
Here is the video sack.
/watch?v=FPl35-eQIls
svt11111 11 months ago
this should kill off the CRAPMARO zl1
drfaticus 11 months ago
@drfaticus Dream on! The new 5.0 is gutless on the bottom end already and Im betting the boss will be even worse.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp please stop with your stupidity!go out and buy the new issue of 5.0 magazine.they did a head to head test of the potential the new 5.0 has vs the GT500.read which is better.
drfaticus 11 months ago
@drfaticus Explain to me why the 5.0 mustang has more potential than the Gt500.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp go read the magazine.
drfaticus 11 months ago
@drfaticus No thanks. I have driven both and the low to mid range power is lacking to say the least especially with the 5.0 mustang. I will stick with my 427 and 488 for the street.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp yea ok.stick with whatever,who cares.you can say what you want,the BOSS kicks ass,and stomps the CRAPMARO.
drfaticus 11 months ago
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@drfaticus If you say so.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@drfaticus I dont know why you talk such shit on the camaro . The mustang and camaro could not be more similar. They are both entry level performance cars. Where do you think the title PONY CAR came from.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp to me,the camaro is junk.the insides are terrible,with the gages at the bottom.i have always said,the challenger looks better than the camaro.im not anti chevy or dodge.right now,FORD has the faster car.i talk trash about the imposter in chief of this country.how he is killing america.i talked about all of these presidents that have killed america.i talk about the fake global warming crap they try to impose on us.i deal with far more than just cars.
drfaticus 11 months ago
@drfaticus I agree and disagree with you. Im not a fan of the camaro or mustang. When I look at both at the dealerships they just look like generic cars with thier black plastic grills, skinny tires, and small brake rotors. They look like $20k cars at best. Let the truth be known that Chevrolet has the faster car now with the ZR1 .
OgleTorp 11 months ago
not when the bmw has 12.0 compression to the 5.0 11.1 compression ratio
lions66666 11 months ago
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i will buy one :)
KeepsHisPride 11 months ago
damn, that's a high revver
lfsracer79 1 year ago
HARD TO BELIEVE
LBB988 1 year ago
Nice
Tiger99dawg 1 year ago
Um, 416rwhp = 478hp at the crank, (assuming 15% drivetrain loss). The Boss is going to be a beast. What's REALLY going to be funny is, the tables might be turned with the GM fans. With the trackpack the BOSS will weigh 3300lbs.
The Camaro ZL1 with 550hp is going to have a 4300lb estimated curb weight.
478hp@3300lbs
vs
550hp@4300lbs
HAHAHA, an N/A little 5.0L Mustang holding it's ground against a supercharged 6.2L car.
svt11111 1 year ago 25
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then comes a turbocharged impreza 2.5L somewhat tuned, around 400 whp with 4wd and mustang goes far far far behind, and its a fucking 5.0l :D
extremer113752 1 year ago
@extremer113752 are you stupid?
AF0111 1 year ago 2
@extremer113752 Yeah, there comes a piece of crap economy car with a big laggy turbo. Put that same turbo on a 5.0L that revs to 8,000rpms and it's bye bye economy car with AWD that breaks down every 10-15 hard launches.
svt11111 1 year ago 10
@extremer113752 Imprezas look FUCKING GAY. At least the Evo looks a little more aggressive but the Impreza is just gay. By the way that is the only way Imprezas can keep up. With turbos. Meanwhile this BOSS 302 will kick ass all naturale.
elr456 11 months ago
@elr456 yes, that is true all naturale, but its a 5.0 L, the american car of my choice is corvette, raw power
extremer113752 11 months ago
@svt11111 That is still roughly 800 pounds heavier than my 83 O.O ! IMO, They have made these cars lighter, but i would still like to see them at the weight that they used to be with the technology that they have now.
ShepperdW 1 year ago
@svt11111 sadly your mistaken their is no "Trackpack", only the LS package and it weight 3600lbs. 3300lbs?? sound like you quoting the RTR-C mustang that v gitting JR made, using carbon fiber body parts. their no way the LS dropped 300lbs with just a simple rear seat delete, beside the LS is speck't at 3600lbs in Ford own website.
andrestnt 1 year ago
@svt11111 Damn skippy! Actually, closer to 12% loss, due to the new tranny. Am glad to see someone with their eyes open regarding displacement comparisons! It is akin to Forrest Griffin beating the dog shit out of Brok Lesnor - more isn't always better. I get SO phuck'n tired of the displacement ignorance of the GM crowd - absolutely numb skulled I think! I digress, the only appealing thing to me about the ZL1 would be their attention to wheels and brakes. I can't say much about their "IRS."
9b8 11 months ago
@svt11111 you don`t think 15% is a little much, considered new tech and a new car. and the 550camaro hp could easily be 600 real world. you just sound a little biased^^. i like the mustang more, mind you.
masedama 11 months ago
@svt11111 yeah and beating the shelby is even funnier....lol
camirocz 11 months ago
@svt11111 This is the laguna seca edition its gona be 50k + get real with the reg 302 only has about 420hp at the crank
redneck9507 11 months ago
@redneck9507 Wrong, all the Boss 302s make the same power, they all have the exact same engine, the Boss 302. The Seca edition is just a race version with a rear-seat delete and x-brace for chassis improvement. As well as r compound tires, a front splitter and a bigger wing.
svt11111 11 months ago
@svt11111 Where do you come up with 4300 pounds?
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp Same as the CTS-V. Actually high 42xxlbs.
svt11111 11 months ago
@svt11111 You are gonna be sadly disappointed when the ZL1 kills this turd. The boss wont even be able to run with a base C6 vette let alone anything chevrolet offers with a compressor.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp Too late oglyporker, Motortrend just tested a BASE Boss LS and ran a 12.3@ almost 116mph. That's faster than they tested a base Corvette at.
Yup, an N/A, steel bodied, pony car that seats 4 is faster than a plastic, fiberglass, 2 seater hollow sports car that costs $10,000 more.
Oh, and it's coincidentally just as fast as what they tested a CTS-V coupe at, which GM already said will be a clone of the new ZL1 will be able to achieve.
Game over government motors.
svt11111 11 months ago
@svt11111 ha ha.i agree with what you said.Game over Gigantic Mistake.
drfaticus 11 months ago
@svt11111 I have seen the base vette run faster than 12.3! Is the boss a drag car? NO! What about top speed and handling dumbass? You mustang morons are all the same narrow minded idiots.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp Who cares, apples to apples ricer boy. People will run faster with a Boss too.
Top speed? Who gives a shit, do you do top speed events? Gay ass magazine stat ricers, rofl.
As for handling, YUP, look at the new MT test Lauguna Seca.
/watch?v=BxEhnugwzCc
Just as a fast as C6 Z06, forget about a base C6. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, gay ass Government Motors fail. Google Laguna Seca C6 Z06. HAHAHAHAHA
svt11111 11 months ago
@svt11111 Yes, actually I do top speed testing and events. Building an engine that makes horsepower is easy. Making big numbers and still having torque is another. Boss torque numbers are not so great now are they? Love the measly 285 rear tires too. My ZO6 has 325's in the rear and 275's in front and it will do over 195mph bone stock. Mustang morons never care about top speed. Good thing cause they dont have any top end.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@svt11111 I have also seen the base corvette run almost identical numbers to the gt500 until about 125mph and then it just drives away to 190 when the GT500 falls flat on its face at about 150mph.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp The GT500 has a governor you loser, and stop making up stories. Where did you see a Corvette racing to 190mph? Oh that's right, you didn't ricer boy. You read in a magazine that's it's top speed so felt like making an up an imaginary story on youtube.
Kill yourself queer.
svt11111 11 months ago
@svt11111 Just because you dont have the balls or car to go fast doesnt mean the rest of us cant. Thats one thing you mustang morons dont realize, Corvettes are 200mph cars and they are still more stable at that speed than a mustang at 125mph.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp Why do you find it so hard to believe? I know the answer, because you have a mustang.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@svt11111 You are virtually incorrect of all that you speak. The Boss weighs in at over 3600 pounds with rear seat delete. The ZL1 will weigh right around 3900 and will have almost 600 hp. You can also stick your 15% drivetrain loss in your ass. Try about 50-60 hp loss. Your saying a car with 100 hp will only lose 15 hp and a car with 1000hp will lose 150 hp. Get your facts straight ! Just another MUSTANG MORON on youtube.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@OgleTorp Sorry to burst your bubble Einstein, but have your herd such thing as friction? Yes, 15% is about right for two tires, if more tires then coefficient of friction will go up. Get yourself a physics book instead of coloring book.
Boysya 11 months ago
@Boysya So if you take the same car and put a 100 hp engine in it will only lose 15hp and the same car with a 1000hp will lose 150hp? Its not rocket science its common sense.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
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@OgleTorp Yes! The end result is you will loose ~ 15% to friction.
Boysya 11 months ago
@OgleTorp Incorrect.
The ZL1 weighs 42xxlbs, stop making up lies kid. The Camaro SS already weighs 3900lbs, then add a forged motor, supercharger, magnetic ride, brakes, bigger wheels, interior upgrades and the works.
Stupid ricer making up lies on youtube, lol.
Also, a fully loaded premium GT weighs 3600lbs, with a mach1000 stereo and navigation, glass roof, and heavy 19inch wheels, etc.
The Boss weighs less. Nice try though, fart poker.
svt11111 11 months ago
@svt11111 You are going to be sadly disappointed.
OgleTorp 11 months ago
@svt11111 No you idiot it is going to weigh 3,900 pounds, because they've increased the weight but they've also decreased weight in other areas. Idiot......
TheHm3 11 months ago
@svt11111 Where did you get a ZL1 4300 pound estimated curb weight? Motor Trend reports that the weight is yet to be determined. Also, if you look at the ZL1 official website, the ZL1 is expected to have at least 550 HP but it's not an official number. It can always have more considering Ford is developing a minimum 600 HP 5.8 liter GT500 for 2013. (Go to CARandDRIVER for info about that.) By the way the ZL1 is lighter than the CTS-V which does 0-60 in 3.9 sec. But the 302 owns on the track.
elr456 11 months ago
@elr456 It's what it will weight.
Here is the deal, the BASE V6 Camaro weighs just as much as a BASE V6 CTS.
The Camaro is a heavy car built off a 4 door full sized sedan platform, and the ZL1 will have everything down to the magnetic ride suspension from the CTS-V. It will weigh exactly what a CTS-V weighs, 42xxlbs
svt11111 11 months ago
@svt11111 You make an excellent point. However, I believe the power is yet to be known. The official website reports at least 550 HP but that's not an official number and it could always have even more considering the 2013 5.8 liter GT500 with a possible 620 HP. Chevy isn't going to let their new ZL1 get walked on during its debut. The ZL1 isn't even being sold yet. I think they should just drop the LS9 in there.
elr456 11 months ago
@elr456 Yes, the ZL1 could very well have 600hp. I'm just getting a rise out of the GM fans. "Ford's always needed to be supercharged to go fast".
Now Ford has a Mustang with a little naturally aspirated 32valve 5liter that will give GM's Camaro with a massive 6.2L with a supercharger a run for it's money.
svt11111 11 months ago 29
@svt11111 more people should listen to you, awesome comment!
Deango2 11 months ago
@svt11111 dont forget that there fastest car ever produced the zr1, is supercharged along with the zl1..
fourmilesnipe 11 months ago
@svt11111 Well that's because this 302's performance is truly marvelous. The GT500's numbers are around 12.4 so that's what the ZL1 was aiming at. But then comes this BOSS 302 that's even faster than the GT500 so I think they should really improve the GT500. This 302 owns the GT500 for less. It should be car of the year or something.