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  • two words..........fucking mint!!!!

  • @jennyorgan1977 Bang on jenny

  • wooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! the second coming!!!!!! my life is complete!!!!!!

  • is that reni on bass?

  • @invictorium Mani. Reni is the original drummer who'd left by this point

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  • fucking amazing song !!!! are we etched in stone!!

  • Ace!

  • my goldleaf triptych angel she knows just what to do....

  • beautiful

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  • Have you got anymore????

  • 4 c*nts need their ears checked

  • i never saw them live, but i remember a boy saying this song was the highlight.. in Aberdeen.

  • Fuck I'm an idiot. Why wasn't I there? I was 19 at the time and living in London. Fuck.

  • I mind at Glasgow they went off b4 this and the crowd started singing Scotland songs as they had just drawn England in the EC play off. Mani played part of it with the CU Jimmy hat on

  • @bigmarky haha, that's class man !

  • So fucking amazing...Just look at them all-together...Amazing song...

    You should have been an angel, it would have suited you...

    (you know)

  • one of their best songs

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  • shmokin a fag and letting the crowd sing his tunes.... ian brown is one cool cat

  • @mileyoreilly07 I'd be surprised if that is a fag he is smokin...

  • Saw em at the aberdeen music hall 94 or 95....best gig i ever went to. I salute you........

  • love this song! oh, if only mani had waited to quit, what if there where vids of the whole real band playing 2nd coming live!?!? oh I wish

  • @lazyitus it was reni who quit , but who's being picky

  • heh heh... yeah, one too many drinks that night.

  • ian sounds mint here

  • His hat is cool

  • top Roses gig

  • Amazing!!!! What a crowd man!!

  • just booked my tickets for dec 09 cant wait!

  • Are we etched in stone? Or just scratched in the sand?

  • I love that lyric ;)

  • my vision was complete..

  • would have loved to be there.

  • brilliant..one of my favourite songs ever..

  • Fucking amazing

  • Fuck me - this is so good, so sweet to see again - thanks for the post....Boz

  • a piece of magic. i sang this to my missus on her 50th. no backin. awesome. cheers ian. breeze

  • @alibee73 that sounds cringing.

  • @madeofstone95.... not at all fella, had about 100 people singin along with me after the first few lines, if i do say so myself i fuckin nailed it! breeze

  • PURE MAGIC

  • magic

  • There is a bootleg CD and Video of it floating around

  • anyone know if they will ever release this '95 Brixton gig on cd? sure would be nice to have...

  • Is Reni still about at this stage?

  • unfortunately his last roses gig was glasgow green, 1990.

    Cressa leaving was the beginning of the end, really.

  • Aaaaaaahhh... puts a smile on my face every time...!

  • i was at this gig...changed my life! it was an all nighter - they didnt come on stage til about midnight. you couldnt see from one end of the room to the other because of the smoke by the time they came on. i slept in my camper van in a side street by the academy afterwards, but kept getting woken up by police sirens rushing past every ten minutes!! thanks so much for putting this up because it was an experience far beyond music for me (and many others who were there i would imagine.)

  • love this.

  • Best song off Second Coming. Show's that when squire wasn't going mad on the guitar, they could still turn out something special

  • The crowd singing it at the start is brilliant

  • i only wish i was old enough to have seen the roses, ave seen brown solo twice and the complete stone roses three time, but it would have been amazing to have seen them circa 90 - 91

  • The albums show where the lads were at, at the time of writing. Very very different places. I love both the same. I love Turns into Stone just as much...

  • John Robb is an idiot - long live the roses

  • This is the gig mentioned on the MSN home page as one of the best ever gigs, not just the Roses best ever but best ever gig by any other group... says it all really Reform the ROSES!

  • pray tell who wrote it first? Cliche is a matter of perspective.

    The smiths were a great band but never got close to the roses.

    Head for new horizons mate.

  • This must have been from 95 not 89, Squire playing a different syle of guitar and Tightrope is off the second album

  • It's all cliches! New horizons/cups running over/etched in sand/all that ever mattered and all that ever will/more joy than watching you sleep etc etc. OK, nice words, they're not bad (jesus, they're better than Oasis's words) but I disagree that they are in any way amazingly deep or original or poetic words, using intelligent, interesting imagery. They are (like Good Times too) MOR words. I think Morrisey's lyrics were indeed more original and interesting, hence their appeal, over Marr's music

  • Beautiful....just like you x

  • AWSOME,LOVE IT

  • Is it just me or does that track get a lot worse once Ian starts singing?

  • its not just you mate

  • the greatest roses tune off all time Fookin mega video..... long live king monkey

  • I dont comment on many vids but fuck me,that was amazing.The hairs on the back of my neck stood up..Great clip!!!!

  • fucking hell that's amazin' !

  • That is absolutly brilliant. One of best vids i have seen of them..... quality.

  • foookin awesome. best guitarist lyrics & of a generation. 'Can there be more in this world than the joy of just watching you sleep'

  • That line is a total cliche and is not new. Most of their lyrics on SC are also cliched and predictable. The 1st album has much better lyrics - see Bye Bye Badman for instance - with some originality and depth. And I think the Smiths might have something to say about being best lyricists of their generation!

  • Set to that music it's new, who gives a fuck anyway.

    I hadnt heard that line before nd the rest of the lyrics are extraordinary.

    Not the least bit predictable.

  • From John Robb's "The Stone Roses: Resurrection of British Pop", page 224: "the lyrics, though, are the album's main weak point - they rely on the cliche and are nowhere near the class of the debut, when home-spun philosophy, dark jokes and revolutionary anger are mixed into what are pecevied as love songs. The 2nd Coming mayble tackles darker, heavier ground, but with a more simplistic manner...the roses are playing separately, all chasing those heaps of Squire's guitars".

  • John Robb said that!

    Fuck me I take it all back.

    Lol.

  • You are completely missing the point. Yeah there are good lyrics on the 1 st album. But this song completely fuckin captures the excitement and fear of falling in love with somebody. 'are we etched in sone or just scratched in the sand?' Lyrically, this is the roses best song full stop. But then again John Robb, serial madchester hanger on of coattails and TV pundit(!)thinks differently. Well fuck, yu must be right! Try formin your own opinions. Unless of course you ARE John Robb

  • In your opinion, that is. In mine, those lyrics are cliched and the imagery is not new - etched in stone/scratched in sand/cups running etc it's all been said and used before a million times. Real poetry/imagery is more interesting and original, like Dylan's for instance. And the stuff on the first album is really good because it avoids cliches and has a lot of clever, biblical references about agnostism (like Love Spreads' good words). The fact Robb and others agree with me only adds weight

  • Why does John Robb agreeing with you add weight? The guy is mediocre author/journalist with a moderately entertaining writing style. Who used etched in stone/scratched in sand? Not that it matters. Great songwriting is about conveying emotion and connecting to the listener. It doesn't always take Sartre to do this. I'm not knockin you personally but it bores me when people are dismissive about things because they are not overwrought. I don't get why you value critics opinions so much?

  • Fair point, I suppose it doesn't actually matter at all at a subjective level, emotion and connection are all personal. But discussions on music tend to veer into the "so so are the best ever etc" which then leads to objective criticism, which has its place too, comparing bands' abilities/legacies etc (eg. a simple example, I think the Roses are more talented than the Spice Girls). So in this respect, those who are professional critics and who are paid to voice opinion have some weight (contd)

  • Music is art not science. We can always strive to be objective about it but there are no units to measure therefore evrything depends upon personal preference/opinion. I do not question Robb's knowledge of music -fuck, I like pretty much exactly the same bands he does. I just don't always agree with the specifics. John Robb is paid for his opinions because he chose to pursue what he does as a career not because his opinions are more valuable than aybody elses. We will have to agree to disagree!

  • (contd) as logically they must have some knowledge/understanding of music objectively in order to get a publishing deal etc. I didn't mean to annoy you as if this song means something to you, then that's great and all that really matters. It was just that I think the Roses have done much better songs, they are an amazingly talented group but I think, critically, TSR is by far the more creative, influential, more innovative record. Still, I like TSC and I love Squire, though a bit OTT guitar!!

  • yes you definitely missed the point

  • Sounds like your missing the point. Songs about chasing the dragon lol.

  • The song isn't about chasing the dragon. Squire likes the white stuff, not the brown. I don't see how you can think etched in stone...scratched in the sand etc is about smokin heroin. Anyway if you like heroin and you dig this song then fair play mate. Keep it up

  • I could find so many referals in that song but too lazy to type here.

    Just because they don't like doesn't mean to say they don't sing about it.

    Shoot you down

    Driving South

    and more

  • believe its about PCP, acttually - as is the vast bulk (probably all) of TSC.

    and "Made Of Stone" is about a naturally occurring (not drug induced) psychological phenomenon which mimics these effects. You know which came first....

  • Yeah I know that one. Used to think it was flash backs lol.

    I have some school kids singing a version of this on my account.

    Here is the thai school kids playlist so far.

    Shoot You Down - Stone Roses

    Tightrope - Stone Roses

    Rocks - Primal Scream

    and a nice version of you are my sunshine (football style)

  • Sorry to resurrect the debate but whatever fuckin drugs you 2 are on can I have some? What the fuck are you talkin about??? Then again loadsa a white kids in manchester were on PCP when i were a lad

  • Just checked out the thai kids singin the scream and the roses. Fuckin bonkers

  • Glad you liked it. Done in an hour and a half and they still haven't heard the song.

  • Such a brilliant feelgood song. Lyrics are pretty darn well-written as well.

  • my fav.....quality chooon....

  • none finer.

  • this video makes me wanna cry,i fill up with emotion every time.

  • Great song, great album!! This is the song we used, to teach Walshie how to play the guitar in college.

  • I was there at this gig. Just totally goosed me watching it again for thr first time in over 10 years.

    Still the best concert I've ever been to. Madchester Lives

  • fucking rite! up the ra!! and tightropes good too! fuck, i beat john would beat ian in a fight. ians voice here is stunning.

  • Dont know if its a good or bad thing - the Roses getting back together.But what I do know is I will happily sell a kidney to be at the front if they ever do !

  • yep in the roses top 5 for me. i wonder how many copies of second coming get sold these days.

  • not as many as there should be. its a well underated album and took some stick when it was released. goodtimes-says it all

  • excellent

  • wow this is their best song and a highlight of second coming, what a fanatastic live atmosphere at this gig i hope they get back together, mani has claimed he is gonna get spuire and brown to meet to spark a reunion.

  • wit fuckin woo!

  • amazin...nuff sed..

  • 'one of the better later tracks'!? heehee!

    i think second coming is farrrr better than their earlier stuff. just listen to this tears and begging you!

  • fuckin mega! UP THE RA!!

  • one of the best songs ever written. thank you boys

  • class....full stop

  • Quality ! the crowd show the love we have for the roses !

  • Beautiful ! It sound like TOMORROW NEVER NOWS of Beatles... less tripper and more beautiful.

  • Another one from me website. ;)

  • one of the better later tracks

  • Is this Stuart Howie from Ayr

  • no stuart howie from pollok

  • The BEST track from The Second Coming. Top 3 Roses tracks ever!

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