i know how to shift but im learning the song night shift and for the shifting part we have to start at the "E" i think, our orchestra teacher wont teach us cellos the nots xP but i have no idea wat the notes are for the shifting things are.
very useful. thanks. Just sarted with cello, although I´ve some experience with violin and viola, and having some troubles finding the positions on cello fingerboard.
you shouldnt tune a note to a harmonic as the harmonic isnt always exactly above the note, it has a slight give each way, a better technique would be a tuner or slide up untill you can hear that it is in tune.
I'm not a fan of chromatic tuners. They tend to be "well tempered". Better is to tune to "just" or "true" intervals. Harmonics are good basis reference points. True, harmonic placements are not exact, but their pitch is, and that's what's important.
,Hmm - basic is good, but for me this is so basic it omits pretty much everything that's important. I'm looking for info on how to prepare the hand, how to throw the hand, how to land the hand. Didn't find it here...
In fact the first thing Navarra says is shifting motion "is always vertical". I think that "throwing" motion is good larger shifts..ie 1st to thumb position, where u what clearance over the bout. But shifts from 1st to 4th, it's impractical.
I can't wait to get my cello!!! I've been playing the violin for a few years now. Studied privately and done a youth orchestra, but I just need a change. There are a TON of similarities in shifting!!! Cellist seem like they shift more than us violinist though. Our high G is a whole hand past your neck! The notes seem really spread out.
I agree with you about maintaining finger contact with the neck throughout the shift completely. What you are talking about is French & German shifts. One, you slide on the finger that is a semi-tone below the one you want to land on and then place the next finger down, as opposed to shifting on the one itself you want to land on. The former is old fashioned (Casals teaching)the other I prefer. Earlier generation singers did the same before changing. I still dont agree with the gum though!
I dont think that people know that they are supposed to let go of the cello neck a bit, thats why its hard to move your hand to another place. Also the shifting speed is half the note you had before.such as a half note where it takes the length of a quarter note to shift. Thats what I think.
I dont know if you're the only one who has played the cello or not (on this video posting), but I do, and I agree with you! Sure I must say, the video does say "Basics", which means he probably won't explain what you and I better know as "glissando", or expression and audibility of shifts. sorry your comment got hammered!
I dont know if you're the only one who has played the cello or not (on this video posting), but I do, and I agree with you! Sure I must say, the video does say "Basics", which means he probably won't explain what you and I better know as "glissando", or expression and audibility of shifts. sorry your comment got hammered! I wonder if mine will too...
In response to cello sizes, a 3/4 cello may be necessary if your fingers just cannot stretch to fit the basic position. If you are a youth, you are still growing, but an adult starting to play that has small hands (I'm 5'4" - though height is not so much the issue) may need to consider something smaller. I wish I had made the change sooner....
Could you make a video about how to train oneself to decide if a note is in tune or not? While I'm decent enough at playing a cello, I could not tune one for my life without a tuner. Any tricks to help me out?
For tuning wise I would recomend Sibelius Auralia which you can download the demo version off of sebelius's website. There's some interesting ear training excercises for tuning the 5th as well as recognizing certain notes.
Don´t use an electronic tuner like the others advised (Maybe only for tuning the A string). You have to train yourself to listen to the fifths. Play 2 strings together, then listen to the wah-wah sound they make if they´re not tuned properly. Then change the tuning of the lower string until the wah-wah sound is gone. Practice makes perfection. Also helps if you have fine tuners.
i know how to shift but im learning the song night shift and for the shifting part we have to start at the "E" i think, our orchestra teacher wont teach us cellos the nots xP but i have no idea wat the notes are for the shifting things are.
Hightiideloners 1 year ago
very useful. thanks. Just sarted with cello, although I´ve some experience with violin and viola, and having some troubles finding the positions on cello fingerboard.
hpept 1 year ago
I've always had problems learning 4th position. I still can't shift to 4th correctly even though I have 7 years under my belt. :(
xdunlapx 2 years ago
you shouldnt tune a note to a harmonic as the harmonic isnt always exactly above the note, it has a slight give each way, a better technique would be a tuner or slide up untill you can hear that it is in tune.
clarkey211 2 years ago
I'm not a fan of chromatic tuners. They tend to be "well tempered". Better is to tune to "just" or "true" intervals. Harmonics are good basis reference points. True, harmonic placements are not exact, but their pitch is, and that's what's important.
I hope this helps explain things.
AlamoCityCello 2 years ago
,Hmm - basic is good, but for me this is so basic it omits pretty much everything that's important. I'm looking for info on how to prepare the hand, how to throw the hand, how to land the hand. Didn't find it here...
tullochgorum 2 years ago
tullochgorum
Check out André Navarra Shifting vid. No throw there..hmm, wonder why?
AlamoCityCello 2 years ago
In fact the first thing Navarra says is shifting motion "is always vertical". I think that "throwing" motion is good larger shifts..ie 1st to thumb position, where u what clearance over the bout. But shifts from 1st to 4th, it's impractical.
AlamoCityCello 2 years ago
this is what my teacher is teaching me now
and she told me exactly the same
hehehe
so I can use your videos for my homework
ClaudiaDenise 2 years ago
0:28 that was loud
slartibartphast 3 years ago
I can't wait to get my cello!!! I've been playing the violin for a few years now. Studied privately and done a youth orchestra, but I just need a change. There are a TON of similarities in shifting!!! Cellist seem like they shift more than us violinist though. Our high G is a whole hand past your neck! The notes seem really spread out.
natedornbirer 3 years ago
I agree with you about maintaining finger contact with the neck throughout the shift completely. What you are talking about is French & German shifts. One, you slide on the finger that is a semi-tone below the one you want to land on and then place the next finger down, as opposed to shifting on the one itself you want to land on. The former is old fashioned (Casals teaching)the other I prefer. Earlier generation singers did the same before changing. I still dont agree with the gum though!
sibelius27 3 years ago 2
SPIT YOUR GUM OUT!!!!!!!!!
sibelius27 3 years ago 2
I dont think that people know that they are supposed to let go of the cello neck a bit, thats why its hard to move your hand to another place. Also the shifting speed is half the note you had before.such as a half note where it takes the length of a quarter note to shift. Thats what I think.
drew4u 3 years ago
arrrggg. thumb position is evil!!
Aviator9999 3 years ago
Just rented a cello. This helped so much; Thanks a bunch!!! =)
XquisiteVx 3 years ago
Excellent videos
ggg99999 3 years ago
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....the shift is always supposed to be audiable...it isn't inaudiable.... and your not explaining the importance of smooth shiifting...
passit12345 3 years ago
ok, mr/mrs. know it all. just go play and try 2 make it in2 the philharmonic making the shift audible. good luck.
nbduckworth 3 years ago
pasit.. it depends on the song. Don't be a smart ass
beatle96 3 years ago
I dont know if you're the only one who has played the cello or not (on this video posting), but I do, and I agree with you! Sure I must say, the video does say "Basics", which means he probably won't explain what you and I better know as "glissando", or expression and audibility of shifts. sorry your comment got hammered!
jwunschie14 3 years ago
I dont know if you're the only one who has played the cello or not (on this video posting), but I do, and I agree with you! Sure I must say, the video does say "Basics", which means he probably won't explain what you and I better know as "glissando", or expression and audibility of shifts. sorry your comment got hammered! I wonder if mine will too...
jwunschie14 3 years ago
guy your helping me a lot!!! XD
i have learned more looking at your videos than in normal classes :p
and i like to practice while i see your examples... thanks!
ClaudiaDenise 4 years ago
THANK YOU!! I got me a cello and u very helpful. ^_^
Fullmetal1890P 4 years ago
thank you for some very usefull tips..
joejazzmaniac 4 years ago 2
In response to cello sizes, a 3/4 cello may be necessary if your fingers just cannot stretch to fit the basic position. If you are a youth, you are still growing, but an adult starting to play that has small hands (I'm 5'4" - though height is not so much the issue) may need to consider something smaller. I wish I had made the change sooner....
revshoney 4 years ago
i want to learn cello what size cello are you using? i noticed a few different sizes availabe what do you recommend i start with?
FraterO 4 years ago
4/4 if you're a teenager or adult. If you are under about 5'3", I'd consider something smaller.
MaskguyEvan 4 years ago
Thanks for these videos! I'm a cellist as well and it's really helpfull for finding ways to explain things in my own teaching!
schelloma 4 years ago
Another useful tip yay!
MatWig10 4 years ago
Could you make a video about how to train oneself to decide if a note is in tune or not? While I'm decent enough at playing a cello, I could not tune one for my life without a tuner. Any tricks to help me out?
RoronoaZor0 4 years ago
Have you tried using those $20 Korg Tuners? I have one and it works great on my acoustic guitar and electric guitar and bass.
USAOwnz 4 years ago
I do, but I would like to be able to tune without one and only using my ears. Without that thing, I would be lost :[
RoronoaZor0 4 years ago
For tuning wise I would recomend Sibelius Auralia which you can download the demo version off of sebelius's website. There's some interesting ear training excercises for tuning the 5th as well as recognizing certain notes.
wmatsuoka 4 years ago
Don´t use an electronic tuner like the others advised (Maybe only for tuning the A string). You have to train yourself to listen to the fifths. Play 2 strings together, then listen to the wah-wah sound they make if they´re not tuned properly. Then change the tuning of the lower string until the wah-wah sound is gone. Practice makes perfection. Also helps if you have fine tuners.
vegettogohan 4 years ago
Yay! You're back!
USAOwnz 4 years ago
Jeuj! , youre back.
KLbrezhnev 4 years ago