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  • Atlanta has an urban area much larger then London in area yet has only 5 million people in it compared to 11 million for London.. sprawl is such a terrible thing

  • Let's not forget that these lovely designer buildings arranged in picturesque streets is not what New Urbanism in poorer neighbourhoods would look like if it was enforced by law.

    LoL at the conection betwen urban spawl and health. Actually you breathe in more air pollution when you live in area with more traffic. Also the higher level of noise pollution is proven to cause heart diseases.

  • Can this community configuration advance social and environmental justice, or does it only market alternative amenities to privileged classes? Lets demand the very best of our communities- for our vulnerable, our earth, our legacy, and ourselves.

  • @btmummert GOOD PRODUCTION. There is good question about social justice and poverty in future cities. As OBJECTIONABLE as some parts of Rev. Manning's talk may be to you, just listen to what he says about blacks and Native Americans and plug it into the new sustainable city model. Slums WILL NOT be allowed because they are not sustainable any more than infinite urban sprawl. Youtube: "Like the Native Americans, Like the African Americans: Going Into Extinction"

  • I bet it's really expensive to live there, though.

    It's looks nice.

  • Better public transportation in our city and outlying communities would also be a huge help.

  • I am highly impressed by this video. The only criticism i could make is that I wish I could of seen it sooner.

  • Robert Bullard is the man. Check out his books "Just Transportation" and "Sprawl City."

  • Check out Portland Oregon's "PEARL DISTRICT" it's an amazing Urban neighborhood in the heart of downtown Portland.

  • MAKES ME EVEN MORE GLAD I LIVE IN PORTLAND OREGON! We have urban growth boundaries that prevent sprawl, encourage density, and create close-knit community based neighborhoods. Throw in our light rail system, bike system, bus system, and pedestrian friendly purposefully smaller city blocks and it's no wonder America's greenest city is leading the nation. Come to Portland, Oregon we've been doing it before it was cool. =)

  • If you live in Glenwood Park you still have to get in your car to drive to Midtown or Buckhead to have fun. The New Urbanist agenda is admirable but not quite feasible.

  • @JohnRhysMusician Check out Portland Oregon's Pearl District. No driving. Light rail, biking, walking, bus system to ANYTHING you want. The entire city of Portland (America's greenest city) is covered by neighborhoods like this.

  • I really like the concept here, but I still don't see places within the community to make it more self-sustainable (e.g., a community garden, places to buy raw materials, etc.). Communities such as these go a long way toward increasing sustainability, but still rely on an outmoded infrastructure to keep goods moving into the community.

  • @ktdid2000 Look no further than Portland Oregon. You would probably love the Portland Saturday Market. Fresh, local fruits, veggies, arts, crafts, products from residents around the city gathered in one place every Saturday/Sunday year round. You would probably fit right in on Hawthorn Blvd. in SE Portland. Biking and light rail are the venaculare modes of transport city-wide so if your into that as well you would be set. =)

  • Excellent video! We need to build more places where we have the choice to walk or bike to our everyday needs.  I know I don't want to be a slave to my car/the highway.

  • Why doesn't the government of Georgia create a "green belt" around Atlanta? Surely,this would force the city authority to rethink it's current planning policies.

  • While this is a great idea, it doesn't solve the problem of affordability! If I can have a house with some land 30/40 minutes out for the same or lower price, why wouldn't I? These communities not only have to be mixed use, but mixed price

  • Great job, really liked it! You guys should do an episode in Fresno.

  • it's nice, this promotes american cities to be more living cultural places of human interaction!

    this is how cities are in south america and europe.... and I truly enjoyed the sense of community this type of urbanism promotes, it's more healthy, it's more nice, it's more interesting!!

    however it would be nice that this type of urbanism was not only aimed at rich folks.... america is largely middle class, and that's the main people u need to aiming.

  • For New Urbanism to WORK and have HIGH satisfaction from everyone they have to:

    - Make it Free Market Influenced Design

    -Use Private Services including Private Rail

    -Make Sure Everyone can still have an AFFORDABLE Detached Home

    -STOP THE MYTHS that is excessive government control! NOT TRUE!! Current polices are with INSANE codes and laws that FORCED us to have junk strip malls, cul-de-sac's, isolated subdivisions, collector roads, setback requirements, use segregation, and all other crap!!

  • where are the other episodes

  • I've been to Gleenwood Park and it is a very good concept and good idea, if that's the environment you desire to live in. For me, if I'm paying that much money for a domicile, then some useable land space of my own had better come with it. I like the idea of garages in the back, but I still want some land to plant trees, grow a garden, and let the dogs run sans leash!

  • Great video and direct to the point. The so-called "American Dream" of owning a house with a yard out in the "country" is nothing more than a nightmare. And if you do buy out at the edge and live there for twenty years... it becomes the middle of town! or rather, the middle of a suburban car-oriented sprawling traffic NIGHTMARE. Glenwood Park on the other hand is a peaceful city neighborhood that will REMAIN a demand area.

  • Great video. Its really an example on how even more americans should live. I of course prefer older neighborhoods and Atlanta on the whole does not seem desirable especially next to the Seattles or Portlands of this world.

  • In 1850, Atlanta was Pi square miles! Anyways... I would love to move to a place like Glenwood Park... Suburbia just sucks ass.

  • Also keeps you in a bubble and not exploring the city in which you live...

  • Yes, but TOWNHOUSES at Glenwood Park start at $429k. So you're still really only talking about a solution for the wealthy, unless you want to live in a shoebox sized 1 bedroom condo. You have to be even wealthier if you have kids, because I imagine nobody reasonable would send their kids to the public schools there. Don't forget, there are also problems associated with high density living. While this is an interesting story, it's not and end-all be-all solution.

  • @AtlTJL YES IT IS AN END-ALLSOLUTION. The REASON the prices are high is because it's in HIGH demand. The quality of this city set-up is so great (in relation to crappy sprawl) that it drives prices UP. People WANT to live in such a place. Imagine if EVERYWHERE was like this. The price would not be as high, because it would be everywhere, and it would just be a normal way of living. The difference in demand in relation to the availability wouldn't be so great, so the price would normalize.

  • @tourdefrance Exactly. We're still in the early stages of weening America off of sprawl, and there's still only a handful of NewUrb developments in any given metro. Give this trend a few more decades and we'll see people of all incomes enjoying its benefits.

  • @kz1000ps Unfortunately the global economy most likely is collapsing due to liabilities, currencies, and 0 interest rates. Many of our urban and suburban areas might die... So we can use some principles of NU in our "rural" areas when we collapse and the REBUILD our areas with the ideas used in that town displayed in that clip.

  • @tourdefrance

    Yeah tell me about it. This is what many "right-wing" people are unable to grasp, ironically. They criticize New Urbanism (Portland Oregon is one example) for having more costly rent prices - for somehow "driving prices up" when in reality it's the severe shortage of walkable, compact neighborhoods nationwide that cause these areas to be "desirable" and thus more expensive. I find it strange when "free-market" advocates can honestly believe density by itself causes prices to rise.

  • @RomanV101 Right-wing people complaining about high rent?? Wher I come from its the liberal cry-babies complaining about high rent prices (and everything else) while demanding hand-outs. Right-wing people are the ones living without government assistance and creating these compact all-inclusive neighborhoods. Reasearch before labeling.

  • @AtlTJL Those are $429 because TOO MANY people WANT them and there is NOT ENOUGH supply.... so if we want to make them cheap.. we have to...:

    BUILD MORE OF THESE COUMMUNITIES!!

    Also despite a slight density increase, that town STILL has detached homes. Did you see? But I see your point... I dont think that low density NU town should top above 3-stories.

  • Excellent piece. Glenwood Park is a terrific place to live and work. It also brings together people of such diverse economic backgrounds and career paths as waiters (me), non-profit employees (my husband), teachers, doctors, lawyers, and politicians with its diversity in cost and housing types. I have loved every minute of living here.

  • Excellent piece. Glenwood Park is a terrific place to live and work. It also brings together people of such diverse economic backgrounds and career paths as waiters (me), non-profit employees (my husband), teachers, doctors, lawyers, and politicians with its diversity in cost and housing types. I have loved every minute of living here and am proud to have been a part of the development team, as well. PS, those SUVs belong to people visiting the retail establishments and not residents.

  • Excellent piece. Glenwood Park is a terrific place to live and work. It also brings together people of such diverse economic backgrounds and career paths as waiters (me), non-profit employees (my husband), teachers, doctors, lawyers, and politicians with its diversity in cost and housing types. I have loved every minute of living here and am proud to have been a part of the development team, as well. PS, those SUVs belong to people visiting the retail establishments and not residents.

  • Excellent piece. Glenwood Park is a terrific place to live and work. It also brings together people of such diverse economic backgrounds and career paths as waiters (me), non-profit employees (my husband), teachers, doctors, lawyers, and politicians with its diversity in cost and housing types. I have loved every minute of living here and am proud to have been a part of the development team, as well. PS, those SUVs belong to people visiting the retail establishments and not residents.

  • Excellent piece. Glenwood Park is a terrific place to live and work. It also brings together people of such diverse economic backgrounds and career paths as waiters (me), non-profit employees (my husband), teachers, doctors, lawyers, and politicians with its diversity in cost and housing types. I have loved every minute of living here and am proud to have been a part of the development team, as well.

    PS, those SUVs belong to people visiting the retail establishments and not residents.

  • Excellent piece. Glenwood Park is a terrific place to live and work. It also brings together people of such diverse economic backgrounds and career paths as waiters (me), non-profit employees (my husband), teachers, doctors, lawyers, and politicians with its diversity in cost and housing types. I have loved every minute of living here and am proud to have been a part of the development team, as well. PS, those SUVs belong to people visiting the retail establishments and not residents.

  • Excellent piece. Glenwood Park is a terrific place to live and work. It also brings together people of such diverse economic backgrounds and career paths as waiters (me), non-profit employees (my husband), teachers, doctors, lawyers, and politicians with its diversity in cost and housing types. I have loved every minute of living here and am proud to have been a part of the development team, as well. PS, those SUVs belong to people visiting the retail establishments and not residents.

  • Excellent piece. Glenwood Park is a terrific place to live and work. It also brings together people of such diverse economic backgrounds and career paths as waiters (me), non-profit employees (my husband), teachers, doctors, lawyers, and politicians with its diversity in cost and housing types. I have loved every minute of living here and am proud to have been a part of the development team, as well.

    PS, those SUVs belong to people visiting the retail establishments and not residents.

  • Excellent piece. Glenwood Park is a terrific place to live and work. It also brings together people of such diverse economic backgrounds and career paths as waiters (me), non-profit employees (my husband), teachers, doctors, lawyers, and politicians with its diversity in cost and housing types. I have loved every minute of living here and am proud to have been a part of the development team, as well.

    PS, those SUVs belong to people visiting the retail establishments and not residents.

  • Great to see my neighborhood and a really terrific place to live. For 1inAbsentia:  those SUVs that you are seeing on the main street are not residents' cars, but belong to people visiting the retail.

  • @1standMain I am an individual viewer watching on my computer and I too found the music was way too hot and the voice tracks too low. a little less rapid cutting and more visual investigation would be welcomed. really interesting possibilities with this series.

  • I find it a bit odd that the MARTA train system wasn't mentioned at all. Though there are a lot of areas it still doesn't cover, it's fast and (in my experience) reliable. I'm from LA and fortunately leadership here seems to have warmed up to the idea of transit oriented development, something that I think could work really well in Atlanta. On a side note, I shudder to think of what these guys have in store for us here...

  • Very good. It does a good job of easing Americans into the idea that their suburban dream might not be all it was cracked up to be, but we can fix our cities and make them very livable again. May I suggest you do an episode on the emerging carfree/bike culture on the West Coast from Vancouver to Portland, the Bay Area, and beyond. Urban carfree people are saving between $5-8K a year not owning cars, and their quality of life is great.

  • @OaktownBman What's also very important about this concept is that of community. The man in the video said that he talks with his neighbors all the time. He finds his aquantances on the street regularly and chats with them. It's so interesting to see that people suffering from anxiety and depression are more likely to be found in the suburbs, despite the affluence and therefore the financial means to deal with mental illness. The isolation found in suburbs is, no doubt, a contributing factor.

  • Good video, but the audio mix is awful. Music is WAY to hot people talking is WAY to low, etc. Also, the editing style felt gimmicky and over-cut to me. But I like the sentiment, so I feel bad complaining.

  • Good video. These guys should look into adding bike lanes. It could easily take over as Bike city usa

  • Great video, John. I really enjoyed it.

  • Great vid! Looking forward to more in the series. Good to see a move towards New Urbanism. Still, Glenwood Park is not transit-oriented. It's right next to a freeway, whereas the nearest Metro stop is 2 miles away. I also wonder about the socioeconomics. Can only the kind of people who like daily lattes and wine bars afford to live there? Also, a map view suggests GP shuts out an older neighboring street at least one point (Sanders Ave) where it could've connected. Not larger-community minded.

  • @Feldwebelpfeffer Not to mention the ratio of luxury SUVs to more modest cars on the streets. I hope later episodes in the series look at socioeconomic issues and the struggles that New Urbanist developments have had integrating affordable housing and activities into their communities.

  • @1nAbsentia Those SUVs are of people visiting the retail and not necessarily of those of residents. While decidedly middle class, Glenwood Park has all of the ranges therein.

  • @Feldwebelpfeffer Actually, their are two bus stops at Glenwood Park and the nearest train station is 1 mile away: Reynoldstown. I used to use it. The neighborhood is open at all sides, except the Freeway side, and does not block off access from any part of the larger community. Come visit and check out the residents and you might make different conclusions.

  • I love new Urbanism, although as an architect, I'd try for more innovative designs, at least a mix of traditional and modern, which is much more dynamic and interesting.

  • Is this an advertisement for Glenwood Park?

    Atlanta is huge, with a multitude of neighborhoods that are more dense and vibrant with more access to public transportation and other amenities than Glenwood Park. This episode had promise, but instead became a commercial for a small development (where you still must drive to get to work or the grocery) rather than an overview of various unique, organically growing neighborhoods in Atlanta.

  • @ATLJsr To be fair I think this video is more about smart urban planning in Atlanta, instead of showing off the cities various neighborhoods. And as far as public transit goes, while it's still several years off, the BeltLine's light rail will eventually pass right in front of Glennwood.

  • Glenwood Park isn't perfect. One big reason we chose it: It is new (recently built on brownfield). It's an example that we still can build things that are walkable/beautiful. Many folks have strange belief that it is just impossible to build in that way anymore...and so we have no choice but to build more suburbs & stripmalls.

    We did see / hear about other good neighborhoods in Atlanta -- but we had only 10 minutes - did best we could to help viewers understand how design makes a difference.

  • Great work! I'm going to do my best to spread the word about this fantastic film and the valuable project you're undertaking! Thank you!!

  • Great program; hopefully Atlanta can figure out how to extend the pedestrian oriented development concept to include an affordable housing component; traditional neighborhood development for wealthy people is a great concept--it just needs practical extension. We have one traditional neighborhood development in Iowa City--problem is, it's walkable to nothing! Glenwood Park suffers from the same problem--it's only walkable to itself.

  • Very well done, only thing I noticed was the way Glennwood Park is portrayed. I wish it were so simple as to build an awesome mixed-use neighborhood just off 20 and let it flourish, but the reality is.. as of last month when I drove through, the majority of commercial spaces were empty. I love the idea of Glennwood park, and hope it flourishes, but for it to truly be all it can be it will need more businesses.

  • This is really important to get this sort of information out there and get people thinking that there are other ways to live. The most important part came at the end as others have mentioned. Cities need to allow and encourage this type of development rather than prohibit it through zoning and excessive street widths.

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  • Great film clip. Think you forgot to depict bikes, however. For example, one character says Glenwood is 1.5 miles from the state capitol. But how would you get there? Is there a bike path? Georgia has a pretty low percentage of bike commuters, but it was interesting that biking, which I believe is an important part of the new urbanism and sustainable transport, is absent here.

  • Excellent! Very clear and succinct message. For me, the clips on zoning and legality (during the end-credits) are most compelling. However, instead of inserting this segment into the credits, where they're perceived almost as out-takes, I'd like to see this message in the main piece.

    I'd love to re-post this on my blog, with your permission. And I'm *really* looking forward to the next five episodes!

  • Chuck: please re-post at will! (but invite people to back us too).

    And thanks for the feedback. Perhaps we'll use a future episode to focus on legality / zoning / smart code, etc.

    -John

  • @chuckbflo Just click the Embed button and post it on your blog.

  • Wow! I'm glad I don't have to drive around Atlanta--would love to live in Glenwood... Didn't realize there's someplace worse than Seattle. Good job of depicting the problems. GREAT job, John! Looking forward to more good stuff! And we are NOT prejudiced!!!

  • keep these episodes coming :)

  • I am really impressed.  I havent seen any educational programming so energized, clever, and compelling.

  • Great job! I look forward to future episodes

  • Thanks for watching - please leave a comment!

    -John Paget, Director

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