niet restoren heeft het voordeel dat alles een beetje vol zit met olie en vet, en volgens mij rijdt zon ding ook beter als hij niet uitr elkaar is geweest....
maar ja als eigenaar staan je handen te jeuken om dat ding weer als nieuw te maken. misschien is het een intrinsiek onderdeel van de hobby , meer als erop rijden.
yes i agree , when possible bikes must be left as they are. we are only a passage in their life and is our must to repair and keep them running but never delete the previus sign of their life
i did not say they look bad in unrestored condition... these are wonderful even if they are rusted... i just said would love to see it restored.. it would look better in restored condition..
At 2pm on Sunday 25th October 2009, a London Borough of Southwark Blue Plaque commemorating Edward Turner's residence at 8 Philip Walk, Peckham , London SE15 will be unveiled by his children - all are welcome to attend
heres a story. got friend in the city. had a 30 foot square wall next to his house. looked at the prints and it was on his property so he hit it with a sledge. BAM one of these were on the other side. its a basket case but its still in decent shape. know where i can get parts?
So many "should haves" in life. I was living in Liverpool in 1975 and the bike shop had one for sale, 1,200 pounds at that time. The pound was high to the dollar so about 2,600 US. I kept comming back but the price stayed the same.
A squarfour, in it's air-cooled configuration, the rear cylinders can tend to run hot due to the normal flow of cooling air. An extremely rich mixture can combat this, but is not too good for fuel-economy or emissions. In a water-cooled configuration, cooling is not a problem, but cost of manufacture raises it's ugly head, with two crankshafts, the connecting gears, etc. I think an inline-4 might 'balance' a little easier due to not having to transfer the balance forces through the gears.
If they could do it back then,they can now as well too,I'd say...Just think of it,a six with the same length as a three,or an 8-cylinder bike.And the four looks narrow enough to fit an off-roader.Must be much better at low speeds in the terrain as 1&2-cylinder engines tend to "hak" when revs drop too low.
V-4's, V-6's, and V-8's solve the compact issue quite nicely and only have to use one crankshaft. The Ariel Square Four used TWO crankshafts making it somewhat unusual.
thanks for the comment! Mine is a 33 OHC 500, that I've been restoring for the last 7 0dd years or so...can't wait to start her up for the first time. Check out "My Ariel", that's my bike. These unfortunately aren't mine, but hey, you can't have it all can you.......Hope to have her running this year, when she does I'll put her online here.
Do the fishtails increase low end torque ? You'd think that they'd cause maybe a little too much backpressure at higher revs. I ask simply because I know bugger all !
I had a pair of 'reverse-cone megaphones' on my 1958 Square Four. It sounded FANTASTIC. Especially when you un-screwed and removed the removable inserts! Notice how much 'zippier' the later model in the video sounds than the '34 model. Even more so by 1958, I think.
Alas, the bike is not mine........In a while though, I will be riding a similar bike, I'm restoring a 33 SQ4 500, a year older and 100 cc less, but a dream to see...
Almost has an American Muscle sound to it. What a unique engine configuration!
VinnyMartello 1 month ago
niet restoren heeft het voordeel dat alles een beetje vol zit met olie en vet, en volgens mij rijdt zon ding ook beter als hij niet uitr elkaar is geweest....
maar ja als eigenaar staan je handen te jeuken om dat ding weer als nieuw te maken. misschien is het een intrinsiek onderdeel van de hobby , meer als erop rijden.
net als opas ouwe stoommachines denk ik.
bonsema1 11 months ago
prachtig , wat een sound.
oldskoolpiledriver 1 year ago
Great old classic, never knew they sounded so grunty.....COOL!
anzac2404 1 year ago
Just a little smoke...
Pamberjack 1 year ago
gaaaawd that sounds amazing :-D shame they were a bit of a failure when they first came out!
MABELtheINFERNAL 1 year ago
Gorgeous,shame they're sitting in a workshop unused.They need to be used! Prefferably daily!
silver760 1 year ago
I need about an hour of that sweet exhaust note recorded onto a cd to play before I go to bed each night. MMM MMM MMM
B25bommer 2 years ago
yes i agree , when possible bikes must be left as they are. we are only a passage in their life and is our must to repair and keep them running but never delete the previus sign of their life
sq4andre 2 years ago
Perfectly said. Who are we to mess around with the history of something that has existed longer than us, simply because we think it "looks prettier"?
caterpillarnut 2 years ago
would love to see them restored
purirhn 2 years ago
Why? They look and sound wonderful just as they are. Why this obsession with restoring things?
stan9999 2 years ago 5
i did not say they look bad in unrestored condition... these are wonderful even if they are rusted... i just said would love to see it restored.. it would look better in restored condition..
purirhn 2 years ago
Fair point, sorry but I still disagree with you. I think bikes generally look far better unrestored. Matter of choice I suppose...
stan9999 2 years ago 3
At 2pm on Sunday 25th October 2009, a London Borough of Southwark Blue Plaque commemorating Edward Turner's residence at 8 Philip Walk, Peckham , London SE15 will be unveiled by his children - all are welcome to attend
meriden4ever 2 years ago
heres a story. got friend in the city. had a 30 foot square wall next to his house. looked at the prints and it was on his property so he hit it with a sledge. BAM one of these were on the other side. its a basket case but its still in decent shape. know where i can get parts?
HCRCA 2 years ago
So many "should haves" in life. I was living in Liverpool in 1975 and the bike shop had one for sale, 1,200 pounds at that time. The pound was high to the dollar so about 2,600 US. I kept comming back but the price stayed the same.
No Ariel for me.
toadabc 2 years ago
I love that 34'. The things I would do to have one...
metalkraven 3 years ago
Love that bike!
jbfrodsham 3 years ago
Almost strange this engine configuration havent been used in greater extent..Hard to imagine a better way to store 4 cylinders?
arvekvalvik 3 years ago
A squarfour, in it's air-cooled configuration, the rear cylinders can tend to run hot due to the normal flow of cooling air. An extremely rich mixture can combat this, but is not too good for fuel-economy or emissions. In a water-cooled configuration, cooling is not a problem, but cost of manufacture raises it's ugly head, with two crankshafts, the connecting gears, etc. I think an inline-4 might 'balance' a little easier due to not having to transfer the balance forces through the gears.
JGMagoo 3 years ago
If they could do it back then,they can now as well too,I'd say...Just think of it,a six with the same length as a three,or an 8-cylinder bike.And the four looks narrow enough to fit an off-roader.Must be much better at low speeds in the terrain as 1&2-cylinder engines tend to "hak" when revs drop too low.
arvekvalvik 3 years ago
V-4's, V-6's, and V-8's solve the compact issue quite nicely and only have to use one crankshaft. The Ariel Square Four used TWO crankshafts making it somewhat unusual.
JGMagoo 3 years ago
Neander diesel motorbike also has two crankshafts,but only one row of cylinders,two total..Runs very smooth,they say..
arvekvalvik 3 years ago
Again, a very RARE configuration to say the least.
JGMagoo 3 years ago
Square four configuration was used by tje Japanese in their two stroke race bikes in the 1980's.
oldergeologist 3 years ago
Boy, oh, boy! I have a hard-on!
mutterschied 3 years ago
ja...
manicmechanic76 3 years ago
Great to see and hear another O.H.C
I have a 32 O.H.c and always wondered if mine sounded correctly. It does .
these are great machines to ride! vibration free and they want to rev and rev .
Mine is an absolute joy to ride .
Thanks for the Video .
arielmanIan 4 years ago
Hi mate,
thanks for the comment! Mine is a 33 OHC 500, that I've been restoring for the last 7 0dd years or so...can't wait to start her up for the first time. Check out "My Ariel", that's my bike. These unfortunately aren't mine, but hey, you can't have it all can you.......Hope to have her running this year, when she does I'll put her online here.
cheers Kees
ariel4kees 4 years ago
Do the fishtails increase low end torque ? You'd think that they'd cause maybe a little too much backpressure at higher revs. I ask simply because I know bugger all !
MikeJS57 4 years ago
A real pleasure to listen (and see) the video, the Square Four must bee one of the worlds finest motorcycles. Thanks
rogerk4 4 years ago 2
Sounds awesome! I had a 1950 RH350, this brings back memories.
changrider 4 years ago
Ariel Square Four. The finest sounding motorcycle ever produced! IMHO
JGMagoo 4 years ago
Damn right, bro!!
mutterschied 3 years ago
I had a pair of 'reverse-cone megaphones' on my 1958 Square Four. It sounded FANTASTIC. Especially when you un-screwed and removed the removable inserts! Notice how much 'zippier' the later model in the video sounds than the '34 model. Even more so by 1958, I think.
JGMagoo 3 years ago
The 39 sure sounds 'zippier", that's true, but it also sounds like a bloody Honda :-)
The deep bark of the 34 I personally like better...
cheers, Kees
ariel4kees 3 years ago
Sweeet! Thanks!
Always will regret that I didn't buy 4 basket-cased "fours" for a months wage from my boss...
antonNjane 4 years ago
Never heard one before.Sounds great
avro007 4 years ago
glorious!
LoudValves 4 years ago
send us a video, I'd like to see it.Maybe a video of your work and progress
roadrocket 4 years ago
nice bike, do you use it much?
roadrocket 4 years ago
Alas, the bike is not mine........In a while though, I will be riding a similar bike, I'm restoring a 33 SQ4 500, a year older and 100 cc less, but a dream to see...
ariel4kees 4 years ago