Experimental 'Multi-touch' on nokia 5800, game implementation.

[13esmael]

me gusta

[arcelivez]

Wish that would get implemented on the i8910 omnia hd...

[patrykosos]

what the fuck is this dude ?

[Truengager]

I still can't get it. Isn't 5800 have a resistive touchscreen? In my knowledge, only capacitive touchscreen is capable of multitouch gestures while resistive is capable of detecting only single touch.

Correct me, but are demonstrating that resistive touchscreen can do multitouch? Even if only 2 inputs at a time, Its incredible! because most of the games drive me crazy due to lack of multitouch in 5233, e.g., toonwarz.

[Girafk]

убогий голос.

[Hedeskog89]

Looks extremely funny..

[Aurifi]

Like the idea dude. Have a look / listen to Aurifi!

[gac3la]

i cant find a download link on ur page :( there ir no multi touch 5800

[DevineCsProductions]

Where is the fucking site?!

[nextblain]

wow guys u did a great job coding this, tis is awesome :)

[makimilos]

I don't know what to think now. I was convinced that resistive screens don't support multitouch. Now i'm confused.

[anateamo98]

game = swf .... flash

very bad

[StapledNote]

@anateamo98 can't please everyone.

[91Hitman]

My favourite phones is

1. NOKIA N95 8GB

2. NOKIA 5800

3. NOKIA morph (in future xD)

[obfezer]

its a FAKE you can also touch the screen between the 2 points and it works also^^ itsn not multitouch!!

also on singletouch displays when you touch on 2 points at the screen, the phone think you tocuh in the middle and here is the same! i tried it!!

sry for my english, i'll hope you understand thx

[celderian]

He never said it was multitouch. He said it was a method to simulate multitouch on a single touch screen.

[MrPlaystationboy]

ure smart i think thats true

[xeniosm]

i found this game and played on my 5800. so multitouch capability isn't a matter of screen type but just a software issue?

[NeDamoKosovo00]

no it is a matter of screen type

[xeniosm]

nokia just announced the releasing of resistive AND capasitive multitouch phones. so i was right

[NeDamoKosovo00]

no you werent right. Yes resistive touchscreen are possible to make but its ridiculus. And you said that its a software issue which is wrong. Where did they announce that?

[0DanoMusic0]

Mine is only single-touch =o how can i make it multi ? is it an application or a new version or something like this ?

[NeDamoKosovo00]

you cant. Its coded so that when you tap one spot the program recognises another

[OMERTA011]

you don't need the game. just sell your idea to nokia so they can implement the multitouch function on some of their software updates..

[AmonAmarth166]

GREAT!

I hope that someone do a good RPG for 5800.

[mapukmapuk]

@AmonAmarth166 yea like 3D fallout or diablo for phone lol

[tim412007]

yeah i bought my NOKIA 5800 XpressMusic a few weeks a go an i cant get my games to play on it i DL them off of your website the free ones. it keeps saying its need to play on nokia 5800 XpressMusic lol

so what am i doing worng

[jaywray1]

the htc hero is the only electromagnetic, . . the rest use the same as nokia you r tard

[MrPlaystationboy]

no palm pre and palm pixi and iphone and the htc hd2 are all electromagnetic,

[statquo112]

you can multitouch? Mine cant .. Why? Is it bcus of resistive ?

[bannedgbg]

Does the type of display matter for using the multitouch tech ? ??? : \

[ovigaming]

You can see how this method works on your own 5800 using the full-screen QWERTY keyboard.

Try pressing the Q and P buttons together, the screen will register it as R or T. All that an app has to do is interpret touches between two controls as both controls being pressed simultaneously.

[Aightnigguh8D]

You're absolutely right, I've tried it myself with some programs like Photo Browser, and Solitaire, for example: if you drag one card and put your other finger on the screen aswell the card will stay in the middle, the same with PhotoBrowser's magnifying glass.

[isokessu]

ovigaming i tried to press q and å (what comes after p in finnish version) and y was middle of those. so there is some kind of multitouch in that screen.. :l but why isn't nokia 5800 multitouch screen phone then? now when i think about it.. it actually is multitouch screen because you can touch 2 different places at the same time

[GirizdL]

When a bottom has been pressed, the program mark it, and turn of the sensors on that parts of the screen, and, where we press the second bottom, we need to hold it only until the checkpoint (when the lights disappear on the screen)

[AndreySkrip]

5800's screen is really monotouch... this video is not fake. but author uses programming wiles

[ovigaming]

From a user's point of view multitouch really just means that a device can detect and locate multiple simultaneous touches, and that's what the application in the video does.

It achieves multitouch by an unusual indirect method, but it's still a valid method (albeit less flexible in design terms).

A user doesn't care how something is done, all that a user cares about is that it works, and the method shown in the video does work. It could be very useful for controlling games for example.

[manfred05]

Nice :-)))

NOKIA EVER!

[YTDekus]

what the hell? wow..... how is that possible? Wasnt 5800's screen mono touch?.. like.. it doesnt "understand" if you touch in two times at the same time....

gotta try out this "game" ... :)

[blade85]

fantastic work mate!

[30dirtybirds]

hi all, the 'game' is now available for download at my site, link in comment.

[promdresses27]

whats the link to your site..??

[Aron7120]

I'd like to play test that

[NAMEFLEX]

GREAT!!!

hope this will be guitar hero

[juztigen08]

this is so really cool!!! how did you develop such a super cool multi touch game like this!!! awesome!!! can 5800 users download it?? i really want that!!!

[SpikeTheSpiker]

Its sort of like on the when you touch in two areas of the screen the actual point that is read as being touched is halfway between the two points but you've used some clever programming for it to understand that the middle is the two buttons?

It would be revolutionary if you could get it working over the whole screen and now just set buttons, still its a step forward i wondered how long it would take for someone to use the two point data

[shimmytsgk]

keep up the good work,this looks good :D

[Aron7120]

For graphics on like the background I think it would be fun if you could have your own pictures(wich you have on your phone)to play on the background. Or geometric shapes in different colors that pulse on the rhytim of the music. That would be cooler than the guitar game wich is installed on the phone

[Aron7120]

Wow that game looks cool. Is there anyway I could play this in the near future on my 5800?

[Ibodnano]

Any chance of develope pinch zooming plugin for n97 and 5800?

[sviini]

haha I see quite smart idea :D good job should make some games for this.

[diaohide]

i think it is not multi-touch

if u touch left point and right point at the same time,

the middle point will be select.

so i think this game is faking us.

if u touch the middle of two balls,

both of them will light up.

[30dirtybirds]

You are correct but please do not mis-understand the concept of this system.

It is NOT designed to be a replacement for the OS or to be like the iPoop. it is purely to over come the limitations I had when designing this game. there is no 'faking' because it was never purporting to being full multi-touch.

[MasterK1ller123]

Is it possible to set different sensitivity boundaries, i.e. when you press with one finger (single touch) there will be a lot more force than the midpoint of two presses?

[wantedwanted21]

@30dirtybirds you are saying that it was never purpoting to being FULL multi-touch,but you cant say such thing because there is No multi-touch at all.

[eazyyatp]

I dont understand , multitouch what? Please explain ? ty

[Ibodnano]

How is the progress

[30dirtybirds]

its coming on, but very slowly...danceaway64 has designed 3 very cool sound tracks for the game and I will hopefully has a betatest version soon.

[Ibodnano]

Stantum needs specialized hardware, but this doezr not need extra hardware, it is amazing, keep it up! We want to see it in web browser anf photo program

[Samacasconquest]

I thought this was fake, but someone after so many years finally figured this out! Congrats!! Someone should give this person a nobel prize that ended apple's monopoly over multi-touch. ^_^

[bjeans321]

please put multi touch support on the next firmware update it will be the cooooooolest ever thnx for thevid.

ps. iphone is for fags

[bluppfisk]

Is it based on the fact that, when you press the screen in two areas, the "pointer" will indeed be a point in the middle of a line between those two areas? In this case, will its use not be very limited (since a single-finger push on that very spot might make the gui think you pushed both points).

If not, then I'm infinitely enthousiastic and looking forward to get this on my phone!

[goalitium]

Hey people, don't wet your pants just yet! If you read my previous comment, it's VERY LIMITED multi-touch. Don't expect (all) those games and applications that takes advantage of the multi-touch be ported to N5800.

[venom4scorpio]

Haha R u Jealous u FANBOY?????????

[goalitium]

I don't own IPhone, too expensive. I like my N5800 :)

[AvatarQuakeuard]

I can't believe it, but you made it true.

so we just need to install a software then we'll say bye to iphone? cool indeed!!

[Ibodnano]

5800 n97 nokia web broswer and image viewing programneed pinch to zoom!

Any plan of doing so?

Stop me from buying iphone

[Ibodnano]

You have saved nokia

Work with nokia firmware team to fully integrate it to s60v5!!!!!

[katatonic]

screw ifone

[ogatobranco]

A quite good game design and an awesome work on multi touch.

I'm just wondering what kind of API calls you have done to get multi-touch... is truly impressive.

[venom4scorpio]

Wow Wow Wow...Thanks dude...Thanks a lot...

Let's show this to the Nokia n-gage team! :)

[shakazzolo]

You ROCK!!!!

[30dirtybirds]

hi chip, i dont want to start a flame war but you're missing the point. Firstly, search for 'pogo stylus' and the tell all those people to buy a 5800. Secondly. And this is the important one. It was a programming challenge. And I enjoy such things.

[30dirtybirds]

Golithium has it exactly...It takes a lot of design and a lot of testing to ensure accuracy.

Also to improve accuracy there is a little more going on underneath, such as Distance changing over mutiple polls to help determine origins etc.

However this idea does not allow for full and unrestricted multi-touch such as the iphone has. A flaky version would be possible but the idea behind my project was not to have something "fake" or flaky but to have 100% functioning multi-touch buttons.

[goalitium]

I think it's based on the way how resistive touch scerens work, with pressure.

When you press to two different positions on the screen, the screen detects only ONE touch, in the center of where are you pushing. This technique requires you to allocate your buttons correctly.

[5800XMUSER]

So is 5800 multi-touch capable and do you have to buy some kind of chip or can it be handled with software? If anyone have any information please share it with us. Thanks!

[SilverPlectrum]

wow!! how is this possible!!!!!!!! AMAZING!

[v8nni]

go on man, that's wonderful

[pumpuppthevolume]

freeware game you rock keep up the good work

[sargeN95]

Amazing! How did you overcome the single-touch limitation? Was it only imposed by the OS? Did you access the hardware directly and bypassed the API or something?

[dott1991]

very interesting indeed !! cnt wait for it to cum out !