Karajan: His death

[ProductionsSTS]

Esto es parte de un documental ??

Is this part of a documentary ???? What is it? ???

[jaqueca69]

the greatest KARAJAN LIVE

[quelbop]

" certainly the greatest conductor who ever lived".....very questionable indeed.

Perhaps one of the most *important* conductors who ever lived?- -i'm often struck by how his look doesn't date,and neither so alot of his recordings...like them or not.

[splortz]

How he was loved by the people and the musicians. You can see it in their faces.

[linceverdadeiro]

Seu estilo na regência foi marcado por perfeccionismo, intensidade, introversão e exibicionismo até hoje . Este homem amou o que fez. KARAJAN NEVER DIE.

[linceverdadeiro]

Uns dos unicos seres humanos que conheci com cerca de 14 anos que sentia que vivia intensamente interiormente cada nota que, cada musica que derigia. Um maestro inesquecivel apaixonante da musica erudita. Um notavel judeu.

[KorvettenKapitan83]

He was a member of NSDAP, he performed for Hitler, so what? Crucify him, crush him with electrification, burn him? Would this make world a better place? Arthur Harris had never stood in trial for his crimes not that he worked for the winnig side? Criticise him on other things if you are persistent to do so...

[bennolerner]

NEVER FORGET THAT HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE NSDAP IN AUSTRIA AND GERMANY!!! HE WAS NEVER ASKED IN AMSTERDAM WITH THE CONCERTGEBOUWORCHESTRA!

[osiuros]

ALL PRISE TO KARAJAN

[bonsema1]

he certainly had some concerns about his greek / gypsy origins and never did he expose these more when he schnautzte at Richter that he ( R ) was NO german.

What an asshole. ! A miserabler shit of a man but he was loved by the germans and other music lovers alike so I´ll have to give him that

[askerkaca]

one nazi less

[Adler133792]

@askerkaca you now nothing about Karajan...

[pinterd0703]

@askerkaca Not being Jewish doesn't make him a nazi either, this sort of radical thinking makes you no different from your most hated enemies.

All I know is that throughout his work he had contributed much more to humanity than I would (have) in my entire life past and future. He lived and worked in a way he showed others great example. Can't imagine how could such ideology pair up with the characteristics of his profession.

[shtml54]

Karajan is incredibly handsome.

[Chabune]

His recording of Beethoven's 9th symphony from 1983 is simply the canonical one. Just perfect. Every other past or future recording of that symphony can only be worse or approach it.

[Gustavian]

@Chabune I prefeer the 1962 version. But Kaarajan in Beethoven is ever great.

[KodierungHerz]

People like Karajan makes the human race worth saving.

[oceanse11]

@KodierungHerz I think you mean Beethoven, Mozart yes?

[KodierungHerz]

@oceanse11 and Karajan too, exceptional people.

[gaemp]

Karajan never had good reesults with Italian repertoire, including Verdi's Requiem.... during his early years at La Scala he was enchanted by Victor de Sabata, one of the greatest conductors and tried to get into Itlaian music.

[Gustavian]

@gaemp The musician and singer say: Karajan is great in italian repertoire too.

[gaemp]

@Gustavian sorry, his Otello is really sleepy, his Falstaff enough good but only for Italian singers... he never understood the real character of Italian Opera.

[CARLOSGONCALVES1954]

I ONLY CAN SAY: THANK YOU!

[rvcclub]

Gracias por Los subtitulos

[morfeosigloxl]

increíble, no creí que existiera un video como este, la frase de Karajan quedara retumbando en las profundidades de mi pensar, asi como una tormenta en el mar pronto traerá la calma, muchas gracias por los subtítulos y por el video ;)

[tatters1232006]

he was the greatest!!

[billyguns2]

Without doubt one of the dozen greatest conductors of all time, along with Mahler, Furtwangler, Toscanini, Nikisch, Stokowski, Klemperer, Reiner, Szell and a few others; and I doubt if anyone except Szell got an orchestra to play with such unanimous perfection as Karajan did.

[josefedward]

How can one be nazi - and yet master musician? The 2 can not reside within the same soul

[patrickesspi]

@josefedward They can. Ethics and aesthetics are two different things. Unfortunately.

[contrymnon]

@josefedward Firstly Karajan is not a nazi. AND even if history change and a nazi he was then he shall be still what he shall be: Powerful, miraculous and inspiring as ever he walk the face of music art and classic. And what he left, any imprints and mark but stain. Born a maestro as great as him and though to the very moment he commit himself of crimes, not even the universe could take his talent away.

[mnmlmaximal]

@josefedward hahah stupidest comment ever written

[ana8as]

@josefedward he was parte of the nazi politic cause it was NECESARY for him. He wasn't agree with that ideas. It was like a "costume". Please, read a bit more about him and, later, comment. (sorry if my english is bad, I'm Spanish)

[kinkyassholes]

wud was that first song??

[billyguns2]

@kinkyassholes Scherzo from Bruckner's Ninth Symphony.

[BrokenneckYgor]

As a white man, I am outraged at the evil slanders heaped on this noble Negro German.

[FriendlyCroock]

@BrokenneckYgor

what negro german?

[rudhouse1]

what a beautiful portrait, very touching

[clarinete09]

People like him! Never die!

[Nganguen]

Great men are immortal...Karajan was a genius of Power and Elevation!

[paulinoparedes]

Magnifico homenaje. Thanks Karajan

[Kuseikos]

Karajan is immortal

[talesalcalde]

Karajan forever!

[55patri]

Genial Karajan!!!!

[RAULRHPE]

By theway those are not the Iguazú falls at all.

[vvsivakumar]

The greatest conductor who ever lived ?! Surely that's a bit much ? Definitely not ... at least for the last 10 years of his life if his recordings from that period are anything to go by .

[ALEMANHAMER]

Sordo!!!

[mistralmaster]

0:00 to 0:07 what is that???

[danielgdecastro]

Is the 2nd movement from a Bruckner's symphony. I think is the 9th, but i'm not sure ;)

[lstrumpet2052]

Yes, it's Bruckner's 9th. 2nd mov.

[pilotroman19]

Wondering as well! I'll be browsing.

[wnxg4nd4lf]

Macedonia is Greece just like Cyprus is Greece or East Romilia, Monastiri, North Ipiros etc. Those who say the oposite are either people who have never read history or they do their stupid propaganda of the skopjans who are embarassed of their own barbaric race, traditions and non existent culture and history and they try to make themselves part of sth as old, honored and great as the Greek history. Macedonia and Greece is the same thing for the last 5 millenia. Skopje is doomed to oblivion...

[macedonwise]

1913 wnxg4nd4lf, read little bit more.

[wnxg4nd4lf]

Actually you need to read MUCH more.

Tbh i dont know why you mention 1913. At that period of time Turks, Bulgarians and various others who didnt belong in Macedonia got kicked out. Great time for Greece as one of the oldest most important and historic parts of the nation was annexed again. That's a common knowledge. Go study the history of the last 5000 years and you might start getting a grasp of what's really happening here.

[macedonwise]

yes, since 1913 when Macedonia was cut in three pieces where one, the largest piece was occupied by Greece. You should read the history. However this is not the site for this kind of discussion, isn't it?

[PhilipLu3]

no it is not, good post.

[erwinenrique]

HERBERTH VON KARAJAN R.I.P

[macedonwise]

Of course, on some other Earth.

[Varese52]

No, Eliette was his third wife. Anita Guttermann was his second wife and was partly Jewish. Though the Nazis told him to divorce her, he wouldn't, and he was forced to give up his positions.He moved to Italy during the end of the war. Incidentally, Karajan was of Macedonian-Slovenian stock and was born in Salzburg. The family name was originally Karajanus. The Nazi business where he was concerned was self-interested opportunism, nothing more.

[gmihut]

People like Karajan never die.

[mc0558]

@gmihut I agree that Karajan did a lot of outstanding music, but I think also that he frequently ruined music by going overboard on the, what I will call, "sturm und drang" effect. I think his performance of the last three Tchiakovsky sympanies for example are awful.

[uhartchristian]

@gmihut everybody is remplacable.....

[redhotchiliangel]

Great video.

[stephanzweig]

without the collaboration of "rightous" Nazis like Karajan, Hitler wouldn't make it.

[manny75586]

von Karajan is partially of Greek decent originally. (Karajan is a Greek name) thus he was considered a 'gypsy' by Hitler. He was given the option, due to his popularity, of conducting the Reich's orchestra and joining the party or using their 'shower' facilities in Dachau.

I probably would have tried to flee first, but I doubt even a grand 'hero' such as yourself would have chosen death over putting a little badge on your arm and continuing to do the same thing you'd done for 10 years prior.

[macedonwise]

You are almost right. He had Armenian origin and there is still a family of Karajnovi living in Macedonia. He was born in today Greece but then was Macedonia, to be exact. And you are right, he was a greatest conductors with unique interpretation. There is a little bit different truth about him.

[majortom51970]

@manny75586 Yes, his great grandfather was Greek. I remember reading an interview of him saying that in the '70s. Hitler did not consider Greeks as "gupsies", on the contrary he had respect for them. But he wanted to make sure that Karajan had no Jewish origin, as there were many Jews in Greek Macedonia at the time. He was no nazi, and he was certainly the greatest conductor who ever lived.

[JanPB]

@majortom51970 There is no such thing as "the greatest conductor, writer, film director, composer, sculptor... etc. A bit of sanity, please?

[Hungrunge]

@JanPB i am the greatest commenter

[FriendlyCroock]

@majortom51970

greeks are europeans my friend

[majortom51970]

@FriendlyCroock I know, I am one! What does this have to do with my comment? I was replying to someone else.

[weedermann]

@majortom51970 He was an arrogant asshole who used his influence and celebrity to callously destroy careers of those who displeased him.



[majortom51970]

@weedermann If you say so, it must be so in your world....

[rameyonwheels]

@weedermann that sounds like the general description of a conductor.

[84443985]

Walter Cronkite is sitting in back of Isabel, Arabel, and Eliette von Karajan with his friend and companion, Joanna Simon. Like Karajan, Walter loved sailing and sailors know something special about the sea and live.

Two great guys!!!!!!

[franpetro]

hi everybody, please, would you like to name the piece it's sound at the begining?

Thanks a lot!

[danieljcdean]

Bruckner 9 second movement about 1 1/2 minutes in...

[franpetro]

thank you!

[gerne21]

It's Bruckner, second movement of the ninth symphony

[baselesstriangle]

Bruckner's Symphony No.9 - Mvt.II Scherzo. Enjoy

[Grima21]

He said something like: "The Vienna Philharmonics and Myself wish you, by the new Year, everything whats good. And what we all want is Peace. Peace and again Peace!"

Lg

Grima

[Janus1981BR]

Bless him for wanting peace. Peace is the ideal environment in which music may thrive.

[NnFfBb]

What is Karajan saying around 2:49? Translation?

[mrdabelino]

he wishes the very best for everyone and says that what we all really want is peace, peace, peace.

[eragon812]

the verdi requiem is sooo great.. like this great man was

[Grima21]

Karajan said to the audience: "What we really need is peace, peace and again peace!"

Greetings

[foerster]

thank you very much.

Danke.

[TheEternaut]

I'm Argentinian. When the woman says she came to Argentina, specifically at the beautiful Iguazú Falls, and wonders "Why aren't you here?" (referring to Karajan's death); she should remember that Karajan himself refused to come here several times. Some said because the reviews of his conducting had been unfavourable. Some others claimed that Karajan hated Latin America for being a primitive and uncivilized zone of the world.

[abcsopran]

just to make sure that you know the woman you referred is actually Karajan's younger daughter!

[TheEternaut]

Didn't know that ABC, thanks for the info. The only reference I had about Karajan's children was old photographs where they were a little more than babies. Thanks again.

[foerster]

expose me a dimonstration of the words you say, because I can demonstrate you the contrary. And the life and artistic soul of karajan could demonstrate this to you. What you say it's so sad and so fake too. And this makes it more and more sad.

[TheEternaut]

If you are looking for a concrete evidence of why some critics and scholars said what they said about Karajan's opinion about Latin America, I am afraid it is not possible. But do not take me as one of his "enemies", for I was one of the very few who gave an explanation why Karajan had joined the Nazi party in 1936. I am positive he was not a Nazi, and there are short stories that prove this. Remember that I said what people here say about him, NOT my personal opinion about Karajan.

[foerster]

thanks for your kind answer and accurate explanation!

[magister62]

I don't think Karajan was a real Nazi either. Remember that his first wife, Anita Gutermann, was Jewish, and he married her AFTER it was clear that doing so would force both of them to flee the country.

[TheEternaut]

Exactly Magister. Besides, there is more evidence that proves that. For instance, Karajan conducted Hitler's most hated piece of music: Bach's Passion by Saint Matthew (excuse the lame translation). Two Gestapo agents interrupted his rehersal to make him abort the performance. Karajan simply told them "Gentlemen, don't waste my time. Either you kill me right now or leave immediately, I am rather busy at the moment!" The two agents left the building.

[borninparis]

To the gentleman who mentionned Anita Gutermann, she was his second wife actually, not the first.

[GumboVariations]

please more info about the video

Thanks

[jcrogers14]

whats the name of this piece?

[mingweicello]

what did Karajan said to the audience of the new year's concert? Seems very touched.

[moonkasnow]

"my dears lovers of the music, the Viena Philharmonic and i, wish you all the best you can think and a thing that i believe you´ll be agree with me: what we really want is peace, peace an always peace."

that was what he said. : )