All forms of music is haraam, Playing musical instruments, with the exception of Cat Stevens, is frowned upon. Apostasy is likened to treason, women having to wear hijabs/burkas, Women not permitted to worship alongside their husbands and families. The rejection of the 10 commandments, Intolerance of other religious groups and intended enforced sharia law on all especially those who do not wish it makes us slves of Allah/Mohammed. Thank God I'm nopt shackled to Mohammed's decadent laws !!!!.
@BGfromGB Prophet Muhammad allowed certain forms of music. The scholars differ as to what form. Apostasy was treason in the CONTEXT of the war being waged against Muslims 1400 years ago, but does not apply in peaceful times. Muslim women cover similar to nuns, Virgin Mary or Mother Teresa as do many traditional modest women. Where does it say women are not allowed to worship next to husband/family? Muslims actually accept all 10 commandments in some form. Tolerance is taught in the Quran 3:64.
@IslamOnDemand says"mohammed allowed certain forms of music" Mohammed? Why Mohammed?
" The scholars differ as to what form" If Islamic scholars cant decide, then what does that say about your religion in general? Apostasy treason in times of war? Really? The Quran does not say so. Show me a mosque, or at least pictures of the mosque, where we see families, women included, praying next to their fathers or boyfriends.
@BGfromGB What it says about our religion is that it embraces a humane system of "jurisprudence" by scholars that allows for interpretation & re-interpretation of traditional beliefs & practices, which also exists in Judaism, Christianity & virtually every other religion.
When you talk about the Quran provide chapter & verse number, as I did above, otherwise your claims are baseless.
Your 1st comment made no mention of worship in the mosque which changes the argument. I will reply after you.
@IslamOnDemand says "it embraces a humane system of "jurisprudence"by scholars that allows for interpretation& reinterpretation. Nowhere anywhere in the Q does it mean that any form of music is haraam. So how does this mumbo jumbo meaningless "jurisprudence" fit in the scenario in this case?
@BGfromGB The Qur'an is not the only source for deriving Islamic rulings. The issue of music is dealt with in the hadith literature, for the most part.
@IslamOnDemand Says the Q is not the only source for deriving Islamic rulings. Obviously God/Allah is not the only source, but Mohammed as well.
Given his track record as related in the hadiths and compare his life and teachings with YESHUA then thank the Almighty I am not bound to accept Mohammed as a messenger for salvation!!
@IslamOnDemand says "To each his own" Agreed 100% So long as one submits to the Almighty
.Even the Quran affirms this [5.69] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the converts, and the Christians; any of them who (1) believe in GOD and (2) believe in the Last Day, and (3) lead a righteous life, have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.”
@IslamOnDemand says"....allows for interpretationof traditional beliefs Etc" As far as Judaism and christianity are concerned the traditions arebased on the context chronology and historicity contained within the scriptures. This is notb the case with the quran. There is no historicity and certainly lacks in context, if any at all. Chronology is non existent. The Q is merely a compendium of verses, of which at least 40% are repetetive, in no particular order
@BGfromGB Simply not true. The scholars have made a determination when each verse was revealed. Read Yusuf Ali's preface to each chapter & you see a "Makkan" or "Medinian" designation. Yes, the verses were not placed in chronological order like the Old Testament but this doesn't mean they lack chronology. Scholars can easily tell you which verse was revealed 1st, 2nd & so on, but for Muslims the order is not important... the message is. As far as context, the hadith literature provides all that.
Respond to this video says when I talk about the Q I must mention the verses.Well I was talking about all forms of music as being haraam. If this is mentioned in the Quran, then I would have cited chapter and verse.But there is no such verse- it does not exist. So who dictates whether music is sinnful. Man? or God?
@BGfromGB When I said "provide chapter & verse number" it was in response to you saying "treason in times of war? Really? The Quran does not say so." It was in reference to the issue of treason/apostasy, not music.
Man or God? By His wisdom, God has not spelled out every ruling for all times. So humans (preferably scholars) must use their intelligence to interpret what God means by this or that. Again, this is the act of "jurisprudence". But ultimate judgement of right/wrong remains with God.
@IslamOnDemand In the eyes of the Almighty, the word "apostasy" on religious grounds is non existent. Did the Almighty since the time of creation create religions? No my friend He did not. Religions were created by man and that includes Islam. It IS (not WAS) said by Yeshua who said "no man comes to the Father except through me" In your wisdom of "jurisprudence" what religion did YESHUA represent. Even the jews do not have a "religion" yet the Almighty made an everlasting covenant with them.
@BGfromGB You keep going back to apostasy, but I'm talking about treason.
Islam is NOT a religion, it's a complete way of life & state of being. Islam means "submission". Anyone who is TRULY in a state of submission to God is in a state of Islam.
There is one God regardless of what we call Him. He revealed the same message to all prophets over time. But humans changed the message leading to the many religions today. If Yeshua was a TRUE prophet, he represented "submission to God" (islam).
@IslamOnDemand Any one who submits to the Almighty be he a muslim christian or Jew is pleasing to HIM. I'm pretty certain the Almighty wil not judge us according to our "rerligious" affiliations
In Matthew 25 Jesus speaks of heaven as the kingdom which has been prepared for us from before the creation of the world.
But he also said that the only way to the Father (in heaven) is through Yeshua only
@IslamOnDemand says Islam is a complete way of life. If Islamic run countries ie Iran, Saudi Arabia are anything to go by,then thank goodness I'm not shackled by the chains of Mohammed!
@IslamOnDemand You can fool some people some of the time but not all people all of the time. Sharia law as espoused by. Islam is decadent and outdated.
@BGfromGB Stay on point and stick to the topic. Stop replying with digressions and insults and maybe our debate will be somewhat productive. You made an argument about Iran and Saudi Arabia being "Islamic run" and I refuted it by denying your very point. But you don't address this... why? You have done this throughout our little debate with various other points. Why can't we debate a single point to its conclusion? Isn't that what a debate is all about? C'mon, let's be respectful & logical here.
@IslamOnDemand .fair enough. I mentioned Iran on the basis that it;s official title is called " The Islamic Republic of Iran" I'm a private business man and quite a few clients of mine are Iranian. The stories I hear these folk are quite spine chilling. I also hear from time to time horror press stories about stonings and executions based on Sahria laws. In saudi Arabia we learn that no other religion is permitted to be established even to the point that Bibles are banned. Islamic way of life?
@BGfromGB Excellent! Now that we've agreed to have a respectful and logical debate, I ask you a logical question... Anders Behring Breivik, the recent Norway terrorist, calls himself a "Christian". Does this mean his ACTIONS are consistent with the TEACHINGS of Christianity?
@IslamOnDemand No. He's a deranged man. He acted on his own and had no support. He may claim to be a christian but I will venture to suggest that he is the type of christian by name only. , we have many "christians" but very few practise their religion
@BGfromGB Likewise with Islam... we have many "Muslims" but very few PRACTICE their religion, especially the so-called "leaders" and "presidents" of entire nations! So why are you not willing to apply the same logic to radical/deviant/deranged "Muslims" that you do with radical/deviant/deranged "Christians"??
That man is from the right wing, the extreme group of Radical Protestant Christians and conservatives. A man in love with the ideals of ZION, a GROUP of people who are all hell bent on wanting Muslims and immigrants of all kind to be converted or cleansed from their country (liken to the Jews of Israel). A group of people who despise the modernist trend of Protestant Christianity.
The entire group is deranged and that man is a byproduct of that hate and frustration.
He is and will always be a Christian Extremist, Christian Terrorist and a Christian right-wing Fundamentalist.
He single handily killed more people than the 7 individuals who attacked the buses in 7/7. Europe is at a greater threat with Christianity than radical Muslim individuals. FACT
@MrGrandDragon He is a deranged person and whether he is a christian or not,he acted on his own accord and not in the name of God. His acts were despicable.
Muslim suicide bombers pray to their Allah each and every time they blow themselves up.This deranged maniac has become obsessed with his disdain for the Islamic religion brought about the ruthless sadistic crimes committed by muslim suicide bombers and for deranged Islamic leaders.
In the region of Hijaz, more specifically Mekkah and Medina there are no other faiths apart from Islam. The Jewish tribes who were in Medina (Yathrib) had been overthrown during the reign of Al Islam 14 centuries ago for their treachery and constant rebellion. The few Christian individuals accepted Islam.
Nevertheless those who are None Muslim and live on the outskirts of these two cities MUST be treated with respect and dignity. What the Saudi monarch are doing is forbidden
@MrGrandDragon jews overthrown for their treachery? Treachery? From what? Little wonder there are no other religions apart from islam. Yes, the so called peaceful tolerant and loving Islam! A little over 1400 yrs ago, there was no such religion as Islam nor did tyhe Quran exist. Then along came Mohammed who had a dream in a cave and so a cult was born and is a cult to this day. Islam had no right to overthrow the Jews at medina. that is not in keeping with his love for mankind.
The Muslims in Madina had a written contract with the tribe of israel in Madina. They broke the contract by helping the external (not living in Madina) enemies of the Muslims. For this they were punished. Under any law this is justified if you break a contract knowingly and you try to destroy the other party in the contract when you have agreed to work together with them.
Are you saying that your God has no say in the foundation of religion? That the reality of division of theology is superimposing yours Gods will?
Allah has made it so that humans will will differ and divulge into groups. It is in our nature to be arrogant and stubborn, to be naive and susceptible. This is a reality manifested throughout History. BUT Allah has also made it so that the message of truth had also been sent as a reminder to humanity. Islam the way of Life
@MrGrandDragon asks if God has no say in the foundation of religiuon. Since the beginning of time there has never been a religion. Even in YESHUA's time there was no religion. Religion is a man made concept and given the numerous amounts of conflicts all done in the "name of the Almighty" is totally unacceptable and displeasing to him. YESHUA whoi was sent by the Almighty came with a perfect message and tyhat was to follow him and his non violent ways. YESHUA/YHWH Moses etc had no religion
@IslamOnDemand says ...."scholars) must use their intelligence to interpret what God means.
On what grounds should scholars "jurisprudently" (I love that word - it makes me feel like a linguistic professor!!!) interprete thge 4th commandment other than what it literally means?
Yes you're 100% right God will judge on his terms and not what scholars "jurisprudently"(mis)interprete his direct commandment.
@IslamOnDemand"Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work; but the seventh day is a Sabbath unto the Lord your G-d. On it you shall not do any manner of work. It is a direct commandment from the Almighty, No if or buts. It's plain and simple and is beyond debate.But if you wish to slander HIS word then of course you can interprete and re interprete it to suit you agenda.
In Islam there is segregation of the sexes. In Islam we realize the weakness of human nature and what distracts humans from the worship of Allah. Th best and most ideal environment is to remove the means of distraction that can take one away from worship and focus.
Having a "girlfriend" is fornication and zina. A meaningless relationship without any real bounded sanctioned responsibility. This terminology you are using is perverse and testament of your modernist ideals.
@MrGrandDragon I can see weaknesses in sexes outside religious behaviours but what weaknesses are there when both sexes worship the Almighty. Did the Almighty command muslims to segregate when worshipping him? Where in the Quran does the Almighty forbid us from having girlfriends? Falling in love with a person before consumation of marriage is natural and is NOT fornication. Nowhere does God decree, either in the Q or scriptures that we can fall in love only after marriage. Does not make sens
There is a definite segregation of the gender in Islam but when you are referring to Husband and Wife then of course there is no segregation in that sense. A wife can pray in the same company as the husband at home, with her sons and daughters alike. However in general we as Muslims pray in congregation (Jama'at) in the Masjid where segregation is observed.
Befriending a girl as a classmate is something different to being close to her outside of Nikkah.
Why is that in Christianity the highest form of worship was to abstain from worldly things? Monks in monasteries would make it a life commitment to isolate themselves and segregate their lives in sacrifice to their desires FOR the pleasure of God. Similarly Nuns would never marry and adorn themselves just as the Muslim women would! If this is deemed as something righteous by Paul then you have no basis to criticise Islam at all.
Modesty is righteousness and abstinence is Humility
Who says Cat Stevens is an exception? There are many who follow Sufi orders and play certain instruments which they deem are permissible in the fold of Islam. In general however the usage of instruments is limited and even forbidden in more dominant traditional schools of thought.
I do not find women adorning the Hijab to be repulsive or oppressive, rather I find the current trend of "fashion" to be sad. Its hard to differentiate between prostitutes and normal women these days.
Sh Hamza mentioned a scholar called *blank* Hajj: can someone fill in the blank?
bayreuth79 1 month ago
Mash Allha. i wish that all muslim practising their religion as the way you say.
rawhiyahjani2009 1 month ago
mashAllah this was very enlightening!
pinkrose101s 6 months ago 2
All forms of music is haraam, Playing musical instruments, with the exception of Cat Stevens, is frowned upon. Apostasy is likened to treason, women having to wear hijabs/burkas, Women not permitted to worship alongside their husbands and families. The rejection of the 10 commandments, Intolerance of other religious groups and intended enforced sharia law on all especially those who do not wish it makes us slves of Allah/Mohammed. Thank God I'm nopt shackled to Mohammed's decadent laws !!!!.
BGfromGB 7 months ago
@BGfromGB Prophet Muhammad allowed certain forms of music. The scholars differ as to what form. Apostasy was treason in the CONTEXT of the war being waged against Muslims 1400 years ago, but does not apply in peaceful times. Muslim women cover similar to nuns, Virgin Mary or Mother Teresa as do many traditional modest women. Where does it say women are not allowed to worship next to husband/family? Muslims actually accept all 10 commandments in some form. Tolerance is taught in the Quran 3:64.
IslamOnDemand 7 months ago
@IslamOnDemand says"mohammed allowed certain forms of music" Mohammed? Why Mohammed?
" The scholars differ as to what form" If Islamic scholars cant decide, then what does that say about your religion in general? Apostasy treason in times of war? Really? The Quran does not say so. Show me a mosque, or at least pictures of the mosque, where we see families, women included, praying next to their fathers or boyfriends.
BGfromGB 7 months ago
@BGfromGB What it says about our religion is that it embraces a humane system of "jurisprudence" by scholars that allows for interpretation & re-interpretation of traditional beliefs & practices, which also exists in Judaism, Christianity & virtually every other religion.
When you talk about the Quran provide chapter & verse number, as I did above, otherwise your claims are baseless.
Your 1st comment made no mention of worship in the mosque which changes the argument. I will reply after you.
IslamOnDemand 7 months ago
@IslamOnDemand says "it embraces a humane system of "jurisprudence"by scholars that allows for interpretation& reinterpretation. Nowhere anywhere in the Q does it mean that any form of music is haraam. So how does this mumbo jumbo meaningless "jurisprudence" fit in the scenario in this case?
BGfromGB 7 months ago
@BGfromGB The Qur'an is not the only source for deriving Islamic rulings. The issue of music is dealt with in the hadith literature, for the most part.
IslamOnDemand 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand Says the Q is not the only source for deriving Islamic rulings. Obviously God/Allah is not the only source, but Mohammed as well.
Given his track record as related in the hadiths and compare his life and teachings with YESHUA then thank the Almighty I am not bound to accept Mohammed as a messenger for salvation!!
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB To each his own.
IslamOnDemand 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand says "To each his own" Agreed 100% So long as one submits to the Almighty
.Even the Quran affirms this [5.69] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the converts, and the Christians; any of them who (1) believe in GOD and (2) believe in the Last Day, and (3) lead a righteous life, have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.”
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand says"....allows for interpretationof traditional beliefs Etc" As far as Judaism and christianity are concerned the traditions arebased on the context chronology and historicity contained within the scriptures. This is notb the case with the quran. There is no historicity and certainly lacks in context, if any at all. Chronology is non existent. The Q is merely a compendium of verses, of which at least 40% are repetetive, in no particular order
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB Simply not true. The scholars have made a determination when each verse was revealed. Read Yusuf Ali's preface to each chapter & you see a "Makkan" or "Medinian" designation. Yes, the verses were not placed in chronological order like the Old Testament but this doesn't mean they lack chronology. Scholars can easily tell you which verse was revealed 1st, 2nd & so on, but for Muslims the order is not important... the message is. As far as context, the hadith literature provides all that.
IslamOnDemand 6 months ago
Respond to this video says when I talk about the Q I must mention the verses.Well I was talking about all forms of music as being haraam. If this is mentioned in the Quran, then I would have cited chapter and verse.But there is no such verse- it does not exist. So who dictates whether music is sinnful. Man? or God?
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB When I said "provide chapter & verse number" it was in response to you saying "treason in times of war? Really? The Quran does not say so." It was in reference to the issue of treason/apostasy, not music.
Man or God? By His wisdom, God has not spelled out every ruling for all times. So humans (preferably scholars) must use their intelligence to interpret what God means by this or that. Again, this is the act of "jurisprudence". But ultimate judgement of right/wrong remains with God.
IslamOnDemand 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand In the eyes of the Almighty, the word "apostasy" on religious grounds is non existent. Did the Almighty since the time of creation create religions? No my friend He did not. Religions were created by man and that includes Islam. It IS (not WAS) said by Yeshua who said "no man comes to the Father except through me" In your wisdom of "jurisprudence" what religion did YESHUA represent. Even the jews do not have a "religion" yet the Almighty made an everlasting covenant with them.
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB You keep going back to apostasy, but I'm talking about treason.
Islam is NOT a religion, it's a complete way of life & state of being. Islam means "submission". Anyone who is TRULY in a state of submission to God is in a state of Islam.
There is one God regardless of what we call Him. He revealed the same message to all prophets over time. But humans changed the message leading to the many religions today. If Yeshua was a TRUE prophet, he represented "submission to God" (islam).
IslamOnDemand 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand Any one who submits to the Almighty be he a muslim christian or Jew is pleasing to HIM. I'm pretty certain the Almighty wil not judge us according to our "rerligious" affiliations
In Matthew 25 Jesus speaks of heaven as the kingdom which has been prepared for us from before the creation of the world.
But he also said that the only way to the Father (in heaven) is through Yeshua only
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand says Islam is a complete way of life. If Islamic run countries ie Iran, Saudi Arabia are anything to go by,then thank goodness I'm not shackled by the chains of Mohammed!
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB Thank "G-d" most people are sensible enough to realize that Iran and Saudia Arabia are not Islamic run.
IslamOnDemand 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand You can fool some people some of the time but not all people all of the time. Sharia law as espoused by. Islam is decadent and outdated.
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB Stay on point and stick to the topic. Stop replying with digressions and insults and maybe our debate will be somewhat productive. You made an argument about Iran and Saudi Arabia being "Islamic run" and I refuted it by denying your very point. But you don't address this... why? You have done this throughout our little debate with various other points. Why can't we debate a single point to its conclusion? Isn't that what a debate is all about? C'mon, let's be respectful & logical here.
IslamOnDemand 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand .fair enough. I mentioned Iran on the basis that it;s official title is called " The Islamic Republic of Iran" I'm a private business man and quite a few clients of mine are Iranian. The stories I hear these folk are quite spine chilling. I also hear from time to time horror press stories about stonings and executions based on Sahria laws. In saudi Arabia we learn that no other religion is permitted to be established even to the point that Bibles are banned. Islamic way of life?
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB Excellent! Now that we've agreed to have a respectful and logical debate, I ask you a logical question... Anders Behring Breivik, the recent Norway terrorist, calls himself a "Christian". Does this mean his ACTIONS are consistent with the TEACHINGS of Christianity?
IslamOnDemand 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand No. He's a deranged man. He acted on his own and had no support. He may claim to be a christian but I will venture to suggest that he is the type of christian by name only. , we have many "christians" but very few practise their religion
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB Likewise with Islam... we have many "Muslims" but very few PRACTICE their religion, especially the so-called "leaders" and "presidents" of entire nations! So why are you not willing to apply the same logic to radical/deviant/deranged "Muslims" that you do with radical/deviant/deranged "Christians"??
IslamOnDemand 6 months ago 11
@BGfromGB
That man is from the right wing, the extreme group of Radical Protestant Christians and conservatives. A man in love with the ideals of ZION, a GROUP of people who are all hell bent on wanting Muslims and immigrants of all kind to be converted or cleansed from their country (liken to the Jews of Israel). A group of people who despise the modernist trend of Protestant Christianity.
The entire group is deranged and that man is a byproduct of that hate and frustration.
MrGrandDragon 6 months ago
@BGfromGB
He is and will always be a Christian Extremist, Christian Terrorist and a Christian right-wing Fundamentalist.
He single handily killed more people than the 7 individuals who attacked the buses in 7/7. Europe is at a greater threat with Christianity than radical Muslim individuals. FACT
MrGrandDragon 6 months ago
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@MrGrandDragon says "He is and will always be a Christian Extremist, Christian Terrorist and a Christian right-wing Fundamentalist.
Who are you talking about>
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@MrGrandDragon He is a deranged person and whether he is a christian or not,he acted on his own accord and not in the name of God. His acts were despicable.
Muslim suicide bombers pray to their Allah each and every time they blow themselves up.This deranged maniac has become obsessed with his disdain for the Islamic religion brought about the ruthless sadistic crimes committed by muslim suicide bombers and for deranged Islamic leaders.
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB
In the region of Hijaz, more specifically Mekkah and Medina there are no other faiths apart from Islam. The Jewish tribes who were in Medina (Yathrib) had been overthrown during the reign of Al Islam 14 centuries ago for their treachery and constant rebellion. The few Christian individuals accepted Islam.
Nevertheless those who are None Muslim and live on the outskirts of these two cities MUST be treated with respect and dignity. What the Saudi monarch are doing is forbidden
MrGrandDragon 6 months ago
@MrGrandDragon jews overthrown for their treachery? Treachery? From what? Little wonder there are no other religions apart from islam. Yes, the so called peaceful tolerant and loving Islam! A little over 1400 yrs ago, there was no such religion as Islam nor did tyhe Quran exist. Then along came Mohammed who had a dream in a cave and so a cult was born and is a cult to this day. Islam had no right to overthrow the Jews at medina. that is not in keeping with his love for mankind.
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB
The Muslims in Madina had a written contract with the tribe of israel in Madina. They broke the contract by helping the external (not living in Madina) enemies of the Muslims. For this they were punished. Under any law this is justified if you break a contract knowingly and you try to destroy the other party in the contract when you have agreed to work together with them.
romm95 1 month ago
@romm95 Who were the external enemies? What "law" are you taslking about? Mohammed's law?
BGfromGB 1 month ago
@BGfromGB
Are you saying that your God has no say in the foundation of religion? That the reality of division of theology is superimposing yours Gods will?
Allah has made it so that humans will will differ and divulge into groups. It is in our nature to be arrogant and stubborn, to be naive and susceptible. This is a reality manifested throughout History. BUT Allah has also made it so that the message of truth had also been sent as a reminder to humanity. Islam the way of Life
MrGrandDragon 6 months ago
@MrGrandDragon asks if God has no say in the foundation of religiuon. Since the beginning of time there has never been a religion. Even in YESHUA's time there was no religion. Religion is a man made concept and given the numerous amounts of conflicts all done in the "name of the Almighty" is totally unacceptable and displeasing to him. YESHUA whoi was sent by the Almighty came with a perfect message and tyhat was to follow him and his non violent ways. YESHUA/YHWH Moses etc had no religion
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand says ...."scholars) must use their intelligence to interpret what God means.
On what grounds should scholars "jurisprudently" (I love that word - it makes me feel like a linguistic professor!!!) interprete thge 4th commandment other than what it literally means?
Yes you're 100% right God will judge on his terms and not what scholars "jurisprudently"(mis)interprete his direct commandment.
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB So you're saying that there cannot be more than one interpretation of the 4th commandment?? Wow! Debate over. Peace be with you.
IslamOnDemand 6 months ago
@IslamOnDemand"Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work; but the seventh day is a Sabbath unto the Lord your G-d. On it you shall not do any manner of work. It is a direct commandment from the Almighty, No if or buts. It's plain and simple and is beyond debate.But if you wish to slander HIS word then of course you can interprete and re interprete it to suit you agenda.
Happily there's no agenda here. He has no agenda.
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB
In Islam there is segregation of the sexes. In Islam we realize the weakness of human nature and what distracts humans from the worship of Allah. Th best and most ideal environment is to remove the means of distraction that can take one away from worship and focus.
Having a "girlfriend" is fornication and zina. A meaningless relationship without any real bounded sanctioned responsibility. This terminology you are using is perverse and testament of your modernist ideals.
MrGrandDragon 6 months ago
@MrGrandDragon I can see weaknesses in sexes outside religious behaviours but what weaknesses are there when both sexes worship the Almighty. Did the Almighty command muslims to segregate when worshipping him? Where in the Quran does the Almighty forbid us from having girlfriends? Falling in love with a person before consumation of marriage is natural and is NOT fornication. Nowhere does God decree, either in the Q or scriptures that we can fall in love only after marriage. Does not make sens
BGfromGB 6 months ago
@BGfromGB
There is a definite segregation of the gender in Islam but when you are referring to Husband and Wife then of course there is no segregation in that sense. A wife can pray in the same company as the husband at home, with her sons and daughters alike. However in general we as Muslims pray in congregation (Jama'at) in the Masjid where segregation is observed.
Befriending a girl as a classmate is something different to being close to her outside of Nikkah.
Be more specific!
MrGrandDragon 6 months ago
@BGfromGB
Why is that in Christianity the highest form of worship was to abstain from worldly things? Monks in monasteries would make it a life commitment to isolate themselves and segregate their lives in sacrifice to their desires FOR the pleasure of God. Similarly Nuns would never marry and adorn themselves just as the Muslim women would! If this is deemed as something righteous by Paul then you have no basis to criticise Islam at all.
Modesty is righteousness and abstinence is Humility
MrGrandDragon 6 months ago 8
@BGfromGB
Who says Cat Stevens is an exception? There are many who follow Sufi orders and play certain instruments which they deem are permissible in the fold of Islam. In general however the usage of instruments is limited and even forbidden in more dominant traditional schools of thought.
I do not find women adorning the Hijab to be repulsive or oppressive, rather I find the current trend of "fashion" to be sad. Its hard to differentiate between prostitutes and normal women these days.
MrGrandDragon 6 months ago
@MrGrandDragon
so who said sufis represent islam in first place!
alithelin1234 6 months ago
UK has 18 hours of fasting every day in summer ramadan
WHAT SHOULD I DO
CUT IT TO 16 ?
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