If explosions were "clearly" visible, people would have seen it. There were no explosions except for the planes. If you're referring to a controlled demolition (which has been disproven) the buildings would have collapsed from the bottom. But this alone is impossible because it would have taken thousands of explosives and the buildings was regularly checked for bombs. It was not an inside job and get over it.
crap video, plating plane parts in a crash site????? there were NO PLANE parts in shanksville so we are not saying any were planted, there were a few small pieces of planted aluminium fuselage at the Pentagon but they were blatant plants
@thisisyourwakeup And what is your proof they were planted. Also, I'd love to hear you explain how fusalage pieces were planted on the Pentagon lawn in broad daylight, and no one on the very busy highway adjacent to the building noticed.
Further, there were airplane parts in Shanksville. A simple Google search would reveal that.
@eaglejoe8 the small piece that is often shown can easily be thrown out during the explosion, thats easy. people driving on a normal day are hardly going to notice random figures on the lawn anyway. no debris visible at Shanksville on the day. only alleged evidence is shown after the event
@thisisyourwakeup There was more than 1 small piece on the Pentagon lawn. There was quite a bit of debris scattered about. Plus there is the debris inside the building, the eyewitnesses to the crash, 5 downed lightpoles, which can only be explained by an object with a wide wing span, the AFIP IDing all passengers (except the baby) through DNA testing, a large generator which was move in the direction of the building. If it were just an explosion, it would have been moved AWAY from the building.
@thisisyourwakeup As for Shanksville, no debris visible by whom? People standing at a distance? 95% of the plane was recovered, and just like at the Pentagon, all passengers were ID'd by DNA.
@thisisyourwakeup actually there are pictures showing debris from the planes, and even footage from "loose change" shows there is debris even though the movie itself says there wasnt any...
@Zero2Legend the so called evidence is BS. planted wreckage in absurd places from the WRONG type of aircraft, a bit of fuselage from some AA cast off on the Pentagon lawn? Shanksville was just a big hole!!!! one bit of landing gear ended up on the roof of a Zionist property that ended up being the site of the Saudi funded islamic cultural centre. Come off it
Twooftards have everything they need to prove CT, except of course evidence, motive, opportunity, witnesses, credibility, sanity, logic, intelligence, integrity, etc.
just because there is confusion does not mean there is no conspiracy. You can swing either way on this, most people take sides depending on there view of reality. Lets face it , if this was a conspiracy and it was true it would mean you would have to change you whole view of reality and then you would have to dive in to the deep rabbit hole to find out why this is happening.. which would lead to ever bigger conspiracies. this is interesting though.. /watch?v=kVKGRB3cygg
@jossgower It always makes me laugh, though, how "truth"ers claim that they have "absolute proof" that 911 was an "inside job" yet after ten years, they can't reconcile the more than 100 differing theories, into a single chain of events, to accurately explain what was witnessed by everyone that day.
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jayep, have you done a video about the "Truth Industry?" Go over to Richard Gage's website and take a look.. the man is stone-cold BEGGING for money and isn't even trying to hide it.. Here, this is copied directly from it. I shit you not.
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No body came up with it, but it exists. A melted gun from Bldg 6 that is encased in concrete that melted at around 3000 degrees. Who cares if it's an inside job, that's your hangup. I want a new investigation because the official story is a coverup. The evidence doesn't fit the crime and like any mystery, the perpetrator will come to light as the evidence is examined. There is no science without sound facts. Look at the evidence...G%
'You know, I want every Truther on this planet to show their evidence to prove that the Official Story is "wrong".
Like, why? You purposely ignore real evidence that is as plain as the nose on your Neoconservative face.
What do you think about the evidence that I mentioned? What do you think about the witnesses that saw burning cars blocks away from the WTC buildings? Why was material thrown upward from the buildings? Where did the concrete go?
Not to be critical, but none of your conspiracy theory bs is relevant to what will be discussed in a real investigation. Your ignorance of the unimpeachable evidence
that is accumulating as time moves on would make you an unreliable source of information...G%
@wordgeezer "unimpeachable evidence that is accumulating as time moves on"
Is this sarcasm? The "truthers" have yet to come up with a single shred of evidence of any sort indicating that the official story is wrong, let alone evidence of the "unimpeachable" sort proving it was an "inside job", even 10 years later. I see idiots running around here claiming appeal to ignorance/absence of evidence bullshit, but no evidence.
It's utterly amazing just how repetitive & delusional you morons are.
Does AE911Twoof actually have an engineer from the demolition industry? Also, last I heard that fool Richard Gage a member. If AE911Twoof wants cred, they need to shun Gage. That guy is no scientist or engineer.
You're right that the Truther in-fighting only serves the perpetrators. You're right that there are many theories. But I have not heard anyone claim explosives would be planted in a weekend. The elevator repair company had 9 months to work in the WTC shafts. The point is, we need a new, scientific investigation. If the OCT turns out to be true, fine. If not, then the perpetrators need to be prosecuted.
@TruthMakesPeace How do you know a team using elevator repair as cover would be able to access areas where bombs need to be planted? The only areas that they would have access to is the elevator shafts Why hasnt anyone who worked at the WTC come forward to say "Y'know they said that they repaired/renovated/replaced the elevators before 9/11 but I didnt notice anything new about them" Are you saying that in addition to planting the bombs they also completed the work on the elevators as well?
I also reccomend people go to google-video and search for "The war on truth". It's a good C-SPAN BookTV talk by Nafeez Ahmed and there is no speculative-conspiracy crap in it. But it DOES reveal some serious concerns about the US government prior to 9/11. Criminal negligence comes to mind. Why would they PROMOTE people who committed very serious failures on that day?
"also reccomend people go to google-video and search for "The war on truth". It's a good C-SPAN BookTV talk"
Is this the same media that truthers want to demonize for helping perpetrate 9/11? C-Span is part of the media and therefore cannot be trusted right? The media are the ones that doctored to footage right? Cant have your cake and eat it too Im afraid
@EdgemanLL2 It's unreasonable to expect proof from me when the 9/11 Commission got $15 for their investigation and offered no proof, and NIST got $20 million and offered no proof.
I haven't sided with the enemy. I want the perpetrators of 9/11 identified and held accountable.
@EdgemanLL2 I believe in both, which is why I want the investigations. You seem to believe in blatantly dishonest coverups--28 pages redacted from the joint investigation, a Commission report authored by a Bush political flunkie, and an engineering report that dodges all of the difficult questions they were given.
@punxsutawneybarney Ugh! Already explained you fuxing retard. 1) lie to distort the truth, and pretend Alqaeda didnt do it, and 2) Siding with the enemy (see #1) is treason.
Now, are you 1) LYING in pretending you it wasnt explained before? Or are you 2) an illiterate moron too fuxing retarded to understand what you read?
ANY RESPONSE THAT DOES NOT DECLARE 1 OR 2 WILL BE ACCEPTED AS AN ADMISSION THAT #1 IS TRUE, AND THAT YOU LIE.
@EdgemanLL2 When did I lie? Claiming "you lied when you say you did not lie" is just sophistry out of the neocon play book. When did I side with the enemy?
@punxsutawneybarney If you have no proof of an inside job than WTF are you doing? If you have no proof of an inside job what makes you think the official story is bullshit?
With criminal charges there is the jurisdiction problem. Hey, Condoleezza obviously perjured herself before the 9/11 comm'n. No charges. NORAD the same story.
There is mountains of evidence supporting the need for a new investigation.
@SWEP2AOTC2002 The 9/11 Commision had $15 million and NIST had $20 million and neither one of them proved their case, so why do you expect me to prove anything. We need new investigations because the ones we had were corrupt and incomplete.
For Condi see my video "Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows". For NORAD lies see Kean and Hamilton "Without Precedent".
@SWEP2AOTC2002 Did she really? Why then was she not briught up on charges No one in the Bush Admin would be able to get away with tossing a chewing gm wrapper on the sidewalk without the press up their ass and Congress wanting them tarred and feathered BUT Condi Rice gets away with lying on the 9/11 Commission... oh wait Scooter Libby got busted for outing a useless CIA agent after the press already had done it
Yeah you guys make plenty of fucking sense and have loads of credibility
@SWEP2AOTC2002 Why was she not brought up on charges? Because she's walking, talking, living proof that the Exec. Branch is immune to the rule of law. Bush admitted to ordering illegal wiretaps-an impeachable and felonious offense-- and he admitted to ordering waterboarding, which is a crime under int'l law and thus Artivle VI of the constitution. Your lapdog press is useless. Wake up.
Bush couldnt park in a handicap parking spot without threat of impeachment If Bush was guilty of ANYTHING the dems that took over Congress in 2006 would have gotten him so dont give us any of this lawless exec branch bullshit
Punxsutawneybarney + Snug-Bug of Screw Loose Change = Brian Good.
Brian, do yourself a favor, GET LOST! You think you can escape people by jumping from forums to blogs to YouTube videos because you're running away from the truth? You are weak Brian! For a janitor, like Willie Rodriguez, you are a God damn mess.
Awesome shit, as usual! I got a new theory to toss in :jewish reptillian scientologists working in colusion with the US postal service (secretly the stealth arm of the Bilderbergers) did it with mini-nuke suitcases. Don't worry about the whole logic/rational thinking part. Like any 9/11 conspiracy theory, you just need a few hits off the bong and all will become clearer..
What I find comical is that stundie can say I'm falsely accusing him of shit and then turn around and say I made a call to my Jref buddies to help me out. Please Stundie, show me where I did this.
This is why I asked you to refute what I'm saying if you don't like it. If I leave a comment pointing out Gage's contradictions, referring to his "movement" as a cult (which it is), I think that someone I’ve never met referring to me as a "tramp" as a "response" implies disagreement. Gage's cult is a joke for supporting him. He's an idiot. If you're not in the cult, why respond with insults?
@adkinsjr I'm not calling you a tramp as such, maybe you should read the comment I made to jayep about people like you commenting on my comments to understand the metaphor.
Are people in a cults the only types of people who responds with insults?? lol
Your having a logically fallacy field day here adkinsjr........lol
Although I've enjoyed reminising and watching you create arguments which I have never made, taking quotes out of context or contributed something to the debunking community, I will bow out of these comments and leave you and your little friends to defend the t'interet from the evil twoofin twoofers.
The JREFians will rush to your aid and massage your ego and tell you that your shit video is the debunking kryptonite and a twoof slayer! lol
Keep up the good work, you didn't let me down. lol
@jayep It's about how you think truthers are stupid because even though they all agree the official theory is wrong, they don't all agree on EXACTLY how it happened. Therefore the official story MUST be correct and they are stoopid!! lol
Official story tellers have different theories to explain the official narrative, they don't all agree with each other but why point out these contradictions??
Because you are fighting those toofin toofers.....lol
@stundie "don't all agree on EXACTLY how it happened."
Kind of the point. If it was so fuxing obvious like you morons claim, then you all WOULD have the same story, instead of hundreds of different versions.
And NO, Sorry once again, but the "official" story has always been "terrorists hijack 4 planes. Crash 2 at the WTC, 1 at the penty, and 1 was crashes in PA.
Unlike the kook movement, this has never changed. Theres never been a disagreement on that.
@stunLaden. of COURSE in an event like 911 there will be discrepencies of detail. when you get your GED and struggle down to the local JUCO, as any history major. Its normal
But you idiots cant even decide if the planes were real or not.
1) Sometimes a plane hit the penty
2) sometimes its a global hawk
3) sometimes a hologram hit the tower
4) sometimes its a real plane that shot a missile
5) sometimes the hologram plane shoots a real missile
The list is endless. consider that if you write "2+2=x, solve for x" and hand it to any math major, the answer is obvious. And they ALL come up with the same answer.
Thats the point, if the facts were so obvious (as they are with the terrorist attack) you idiots wouldnt have hundreds of different scenarios. If it was so obvious, you retards would obviously see all the same things.
I hate to tell you this but these are the opinions come from many people........and those people form many groups and what you are doing is taking the opinions of many groups and shoehorning them into one to make it look like you have a point when you don't.
There is one thing they ALL agree on though, is that the official story is wrong. lol
@stunLaden. Check your own standards of criticism, retard.
For every pinhole contradiction in detail you can find in the terrorist attack, there are GRAND-FUXING-CANYON sized contradictions in the kook movement.
Tell me retard, why would Cheney order a standown to let 77 hit the penty, if the penty wasnt hit by 77 and was hit by a missile?
I don't need to matey, I'm not the one who claims that there are obvious descrepancies in the details of the official story while demanding a alternative theory descrepancy free......lol
And what sort of question is that?? lol Why would Cheney order a stand down??
If you do not know then switch the football of the TV and stop waving the flag because you come across like a perpetual idiot! lol
Well if that is what you read out of it, is it any wonder that any thought of a conspiracy flies over your head like a thousand shitting seagulls. lol
Oh so there can be discrepancies in the detail of the official story but NONE allowed in a alternative theory?? hahahahaha!!!! Go back and check DOUBLE STANDARDS IN THE APPLICATION OF CRITICISM you fake skeptic!!
I know you would like me to believe that it was space beams or hologramitic planes, hell you probably think I've been anally probed or something but you should know that I have never given a toss about what you think or what you think da toof thinks either. lol
The reason why there is so many different stories is because we do not know what happened.
I believe in possibilities, maybe it happened like the official story goes, but maybe it didn't. I look at the possibilities and I could be wrong, I could be right.
That is the difference between a true skeptic and fucking groupthinking sucker like you matey!! lol
@stunLaden. LOLOLOL. No, retards like you KNOW exaclty what happened. It was a terrorist attack. But you like to lie anyway.
But thats the whole POINT retard. If it was so "obvious" what happened, you idiots would all be able to tell us what happened. YET YOU CANT.
You cant, because you shitheads are fighting against the facts. There is no Kookspiracy theory that fits all the facts even 1% as well as the terrorist attack does, as an explanation.
Where did I claim I KNEW exactly how it happened?? lol Oh thats right, I didn't!! lol
And here we have another fake skeptic floating of to the deepest recess of their imagination to create an argument. THAT I HAVE NEVER MADE!!! hahahahahahahaha!!!
Are you a dingle dangle scarecrow with a flippy floppy hat, can you shake you hands like this, and can ou shake your legs like that?? Mr Strawman!! lol
Not case closed, it's your brain, it's out of order!! lol
@stundie "Where did I claim I KNEW exactly how it happened? Oh thats right I didn't"
You dont know what happened NO toofer EVER claims to know what happened You are all just "ASKING QUESTIONS"
Well after 9 YEARS AND COUNTING us NORMAL people are sick & tired of you asking the same questions that have been answered over and over ad nauseum You are like little children asking why is the sky blue and when told you cant wont or just DONT accept the answer because it doesnt fit YOUR world view
@stundie "The reason why there is so many different stories is because we do not know what happened."
No the reason why you cant come up with a single definitive version of the official story is because all of the mountains of SHIT you call evidence of an inside job nothing more than cherry picked quotes 1/2 truths and outright lies You cant make all the conspiracy theories fit together to make one coherent story
You are trying to ram a 2ftx2t square into a 2 inch round hole
How dare you take Stundie's rambling and poorly thought out statements out of context! Just because he said something doesn't mean he said it, and if he didn't say anything that means that anything he said that suggests he would say it means you are falsely accusing him! And if you didn't accuse him you are something about Kurt Cobain and a condom! Lol hahahahahahaha!!!
"Nah, I'd rather you stick around and try to defend the gaggle of futility that is "the truth movement".
There is no such thing as a "truth movement." There is a "truth" cult though. Actually it's more of a half truth- half lies cult. But Stundie says he isn't in the cult, so I don't see why he would be defending it. In fact, I think he is just trolling for kicks because his comments don't seem thought out or coherent. He's just trolling to taunt and frustrate people.
@adkinsjr Just because I don't believe the official story doesn't mean I have joined a truth group, or that I am truther, or a cult follower etc etc.
If you think your comment about me commenting on Gage and the so called truth cult is well thought out and coherent, then it shows us how dellusional you are to think I should comment on someone or a group that I have no affilation with!!! lol
And it's just shows us that you are cheerleading without being able to think for yourself. lol
"Just because I don't believe the official story doesn't mean I have joined a truth group..."
My original comment pointed out a fundamental contradiction in Gage's laughably preposterous controlled demolition hypothesis, and referred to his futile "movement" as a cult. You have to admit that Gage's contradiction is an embarrassment to him and his supporters. If you're not in his cult, or a proponent of his preposterous beliefs, then why did you respond with insults, cont..
I can't speak for Gage seeing as I'm not him or a part of his movement.
While you think it's an embarressment to him and you are entitled to your opinions, I don't think anything of a sort. But don't think for a minute that because I believe in a CD theory, doesn't mean I support Gage and neither does it mean I have to explain EXACTLY how it was done.
And the reason I respond in insults is because your claim I am a either troll/cult follower is insulting too you know?? lol
"And the reason I respond in insults is because your claim I am a either troll/cult follower is insulting too you know?? lol"
No no no, I'm talking about your ORIGINAL "reponse" to my first comment. You insulted me first. I didn't call you a troll until after you called me a "tramp" and then left a slew of other snide remarks.
@jayep There is nothing to defend because your video is absolutely fucking pointless!! lol
Sorry, I am wrong it's not pointless, no doubt your ego will get massaged by cheer leaders like adkinsjr eho actually think you are debunking something.....lol
I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but there isn't a rash of truthers commenting on the contents of this video. And the ones that are saying anything are refusing to address it. They're doing exactly what you are doing. That should tell you something
Sorry but why the fuck would I argue that jet fuel could have been compressed while flowing down elevator shafts when I have NEVER ARGUED or BELIEVED that jet fuel went down the elevator shafts!! lol
I think you'll find it was you that was arguing that to explain the damage onj floors 22, the lobby and the basement you fucking retard!! lol
I thought it was explosives..........remember?? lol
Maybe The Stundies should be the Jayep awards now!! lol
Yes, dipshit, you stated that fuel could have been compressed while flowing down the elevator shafts. I called you a subject matter expert on scottish phrases after you argued for weeks about what you said was one. (That would be a case of you taking something out of context there) you also said you knew people that used it in conversation often. Now god damn, either it is or it isn't. Pick one. And while you're at it, find out the difference between a false accusation and a play on words.
And that I had said or implied that it had been used in Scotland for years!! lol
I forgot how desperate you are Sarge! lol
And I never denied that I said what you have posted either dipshit!! lol But what you and your failmore friend forget to mention is that I PREVIOUSLY said that it COULD before the quote you have presented. lol
No backpeddling, just you being totally shit at this debunking again! lol
"If you wanted the building to come down, and blame it on fire, which is not explosive in nature, you would use a different type of charge, an incendiary to cut the beams. You would NOT use explosives which would give away your project. "
-Richard Gage
"The explosives had to be so intense; this is not a typical controlled demolition, so intense such as to hurl these beams at 65 mph laterally landing five hundred feet away."
WTF kind of refutation was that? Why don't you explain the contradictions of cult prophet, Richard Gage. Ignore that part of my comment why dontcha...
@adkinsjr Why do I have to explain some contradictions of someone you claim is cult prohpet when I am not a member of that cult or the person who made the comments?? lol
I know it's confusing but I am not Richard Gage.
So the refutation was fits the request.
And that is probably why you laugh at the truth cult!! lol
O sorry, I thought you were yet another foaming-mouthed "truther" and a believer in the "controlled demolition" nonsense after your strange response to my comment. I don't see why you would respond like that if you're not in the cult, unless if you're just a troll...
So the choices are I am either a troll or in a cult? hahahahahaha!!!!
Which fallacy are you employing here then?? lol
Oh and if you didn't know, I'm famous for my typos, laughing and my piss poor respect for grammar, punctuation, spelling which gives the grammar nazis like yourself a right stiffy.
Oh and I'm a stoopid twoofer to boot, hence they have an award named after me which I'm sure you can find out about at the place where you go dogging with twoofers. i.e. JREF
Only when I posted your comment did it go from being a true quote (see every single thing you posted up to that point) to being out of context. I applaud the desperation back pedal. Good show, stundie, good show. What other false accusations have I thrown your way?
Well lets see, so far you have thrown false accusations my way as a good psuedo debunker would do but when that fails, in your desperate attempts to debunk something, you go to taking the quote out of context of what I said previously!! hahahahahahaha!!!
Keep up the pseudo porn and judging from the comments, I can see you are gathering a following who will no doubt rush to your defense and jump over my comments like a group of tramps finding a North Face sleeping bag!! lol
Ooooh... Out of context now... I can see where my taking a saying that you have admitted to printing verbatum can be taken out of context. I mean, after all, you said it, you typed it, relaying the message that it IS a legit scottish phrase... Yeah, totally out of context. Illiterate for us some more, stundie, hahahahahahaha!!!!!
The quote you have taken is taken out of context by your failmore friend and is a quote taken after I had said it COULD. But hey, why let something like facts get in the way of a twoofer busting wank session. lol
Anyway, the quote is still in his paper, if he is wrong, go tell him instead of whining and crying about it years later to me.
The only thing I have learned all these years later is that you have about as much brains as Kurt Cobain dead body!! lol
This is the phrase in question - "Avoid like the plaque is a scottish turn of phrase". Nowhere in that sentence is the words "could be" or anything to suggest otherwise. You are stating something as fact when it is now apparent that you are just lying through your tooth (after all, you are british). You may now go back to your atlantis of wisdom known as the loose change forum.
No, what I argued is that it COULD be a scottish turn of phrase as I have heard the term before and plaque is still something to be avoided.
The only person who could answer the question of whether he used the term correctly or incorrectly is the author and all these years later, the author hasn't changed it, so what does that tell you?
And who gives a fuck about your question? Oh you do!! In a piss poor attempt to look to cover the fact you've been exposed as a fucking moron!! lol
So what you just admitted to was that you DID in fact argue that a made up phrase was common in scottish conversation, am I right? Also, Stumpie, since you seem adamant about compressed liquids - what is the maximum compression that has been documented on jet fuel, and how was that same technique duplicated inside the WTC, where you suggested that Jet Fuel was compressed?
You're right. A real expert wouldn't have been so stupid as to argue that a made up phrase had been in use for years and also claimed to have friends that used that very phrase in person. I sincerely apologize for overstating your underachievements.
Now where did I ever claim I was a expert on Scottish turns of phrase??
Oh that's right, I didn't!! But why let a good lie get in the way of your imagination. lol
And you still haven't proved me wrong, neither did your scottish failmore bukakke buddy!! Even after all these years, you still appear bitter about it!! lol
Oh well!
Without Mark Roberts, you have nothing to verbally wank about anymore and have to make these psuedo porn vids to stafisfy the bukakke fest that is JREF!! lol
I thought you were the subject matter expert on what a scottish turn of phrase was, after all, instead of admitting you had the wrong word you argued for weeks that "avoid like the plaque" was an actual scottish saying. I guess that's why you have your own award named after you, dumbass.
If you want any more Scottish turns of phrase, speak to your authority on all things Scottish. That failmore character who thinks the Scottish Language isn't English with an accent and it's own dialect. lol
Have you worked out that you can actually compress liquids yet?? lol
Sorry, teach. I fell asleep. I didn't say Les Robertson was an anonymous source. I said you were an anonymous source. Your anonymous claims about what Robertson said are hearsay, sourced to yourself. Sorry you don't know these basic things but you better learn or you're going to wind up getting scammed.
@EdgemanLL2 Quoting someone is hearsay if you don't source your quote, numbskull. I'm not saying I know better than Robertson, I'm saying I know better than you.
Yes, when reporters tell you what somebody else said, that is hearsay. That is why reporters write under their real names, and write in public, and correct their errors and take responsibility--because their credibility depends on their integrity.
You are not a reporter like Glanz or Lipton. You are anonymous. No credibility.
@EdgemanLL2 Says an anonymous internet poster. The White paper of 2/64 says they were, and Glanz and Lipton believe that was based on the Skilling firm's analysis.
@EdgemanLL2 I never manned down, Edgemonkey. I'm not going to watch 30 minutes of video to find out it doesn't say what you claim. When I cite Glanz's book, I give the page number. If you want to cite a video, you need a time stamp.
a) I have the DIRECT QUOTES from the guy who designed the fuxing thing.
b) you have hearsay "a reporter talked to a guy in 1993 and believes the guy referred back to something he read in 1964 and,,,,"
Even IF there was a 600 mph study done, if would NOT trump the guy who built the thing. The fact that no 600 mph study was ever done makes the lie even MORE laughable, in the face of DIRECT evidence, from the designer, to the contrary.
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ewingsco 1 month ago
9/11: Enhanced and Stabilised WTC1 Video (BBC World News)
Explosions clearly visible :
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and here
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Explosions clearly visible
ewingsco 1 month ago
@ewingsco YouTube videos are not good resources.
If explosions were "clearly" visible, people would have seen it. There were no explosions except for the planes. If you're referring to a controlled demolition (which has been disproven) the buildings would have collapsed from the bottom. But this alone is impossible because it would have taken thousands of explosives and the buildings was regularly checked for bombs. It was not an inside job and get over it.
blacktigerpaw1 1 month ago
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Oh yes they are good resources, pal.
And -yes- they are explosions and violent lateral ejections.
And yes - people did see hear and feel explosions on the day, ok ?
If you want to tell me the sky isn't blue and dirt isn't dirt - then that's your business.
If you want to keep your head in the sand - then go right ahead.
ewingsco 1 month ago
crap video, plating plane parts in a crash site????? there were NO PLANE parts in shanksville so we are not saying any were planted, there were a few small pieces of planted aluminium fuselage at the Pentagon but they were blatant plants
as for being called names. you deserve it
thisisyourwakeup 3 months ago
@thisisyourwakeup And what is your proof they were planted. Also, I'd love to hear you explain how fusalage pieces were planted on the Pentagon lawn in broad daylight, and no one on the very busy highway adjacent to the building noticed.
Further, there were airplane parts in Shanksville. A simple Google search would reveal that.
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@eaglejoe8 the small piece that is often shown can easily be thrown out during the explosion, thats easy. people driving on a normal day are hardly going to notice random figures on the lawn anyway. no debris visible at Shanksville on the day. only alleged evidence is shown after the event
thisisyourwakeup 2 months ago
@thisisyourwakeup There was more than 1 small piece on the Pentagon lawn. There was quite a bit of debris scattered about. Plus there is the debris inside the building, the eyewitnesses to the crash, 5 downed lightpoles, which can only be explained by an object with a wide wing span, the AFIP IDing all passengers (except the baby) through DNA testing, a large generator which was move in the direction of the building. If it were just an explosion, it would have been moved AWAY from the building.
eaglejoe8 2 months ago
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Can you explain how the hole in the side of the building was too small for the distance between two boeing engines, eaglejoe8 ?
ewingsco 1 month ago
@thisisyourwakeup As for Shanksville, no debris visible by whom? People standing at a distance? 95% of the plane was recovered, and just like at the Pentagon, all passengers were ID'd by DNA.
eaglejoe8 2 months ago
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@eaglejoe8
I have never seen any evidence of a boeing in Shanksville - and I've been looking.
Do you have links to photographic evidence of such ?
Or are you just providing heresay ?
ewingsco 1 month ago
@thisisyourwakeup actually there are pictures showing debris from the planes, and even footage from "loose change" shows there is debris even though the movie itself says there wasnt any...
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@Zero2Legend the so called evidence is BS. planted wreckage in absurd places from the WRONG type of aircraft, a bit of fuselage from some AA cast off on the Pentagon lawn? Shanksville was just a big hole!!!! one bit of landing gear ended up on the roof of a Zionist property that ended up being the site of the Saudi funded islamic cultural centre. Come off it
thisisyourwakeup 2 months ago
@thisisyourwakeup lol
Zero2Legend 2 months ago
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82screamer 3 months ago 2
@82screamer lots of witnesses but no publicity. you are the used toilet paper not us
thisisyourwakeup 2 months ago
Twooftards have everything they need to prove CT, except of course evidence, motive, opportunity, witnesses, credibility, sanity, logic, intelligence, integrity, etc.
kangtimelord 4 months ago 4
just because there is confusion does not mean there is no conspiracy. You can swing either way on this, most people take sides depending on there view of reality. Lets face it , if this was a conspiracy and it was true it would mean you would have to change you whole view of reality and then you would have to dive in to the deep rabbit hole to find out why this is happening.. which would lead to ever bigger conspiracies. this is interesting though.. /watch?v=kVKGRB3cygg
jossgower 4 months ago
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@jossgower,
"just because there is confusion does not mean there is no conspiracy."
Just because there is confusion does not mean there is a conspiracy.
kangtimelord 4 months ago
@jossgower It always makes me laugh, though, how "truth"ers claim that they have "absolute proof" that 911 was an "inside job" yet after ten years, they can't reconcile the more than 100 differing theories, into a single chain of events, to accurately explain what was witnessed by everyone that day.
MrSkunkwork100 4 months ago
jayep basically they would use special pleading to contrive flight 93 landed in Cleveland.
IdoitforthelulzonYT 5 months ago in playlist More videos from jayep
I also have to point to mini nukes being used.
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guinness903 5 months ago
Also from Richard Gage...
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"We need many thousands of dollars per month to realize our goals."
guinness903 5 months ago
jayep, have you done a video about the "Truth Industry?" Go over to Richard Gage's website and take a look.. the man is stone-cold BEGGING for money and isn't even trying to hide it.. Here, this is copied directly from it. I shit you not.
"If you would like to discuss other forms of supporting AE911Truth that are not addressed above (e.g. planned giving, stock, real estate, vehicle donation, airline miles, in-kind, etc) please send an email to AE911Truth Donations or call 510-292-4710."
guinness903 5 months ago
I'll use one piece of evidence...for now
No body came up with it, but it exists. A melted gun from Bldg 6 that is encased in concrete that melted at around 3000 degrees. Who cares if it's an inside job, that's your hangup. I want a new investigation because the official story is a coverup. The evidence doesn't fit the crime and like any mystery, the perpetrator will come to light as the evidence is examined. There is no science without sound facts. Look at the evidence...G%
wordgeezer 5 months ago
@wordgeezer
"I want a new investigation because the official story is a coverup."
You know, I want every Truther on this planet to show their evidence to prove that the Official Story is "wrong".
What you and I want we're probably never going to get. But I get to laugh at the pure stupidity of Truthers on a daily basis. Thanks!
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
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@WhyAskQuestions
'You know, I want every Truther on this planet to show their evidence to prove that the Official Story is "wrong".
Like, why? You purposely ignore real evidence that is as plain as the nose on your Neoconservative face.
What do you think about the evidence that I mentioned? What do you think about the witnesses that saw burning cars blocks away from the WTC buildings? Why was material thrown upward from the buildings? Where did the concrete go?
Fraud...G:
wordgeezer 5 months ago
Not to be critical, but none of your conspiracy theory bs is relevant to what will be discussed in a real investigation. Your ignorance of the unimpeachable evidence
that is accumulating as time moves on would make you an unreliable source of information...G%
wordgeezer 5 months ago
@wordgeezer "unimpeachable evidence that is accumulating as time moves on"
Is this sarcasm? The "truthers" have yet to come up with a single shred of evidence of any sort indicating that the official story is wrong, let alone evidence of the "unimpeachable" sort proving it was an "inside job", even 10 years later. I see idiots running around here claiming appeal to ignorance/absence of evidence bullshit, but no evidence.
It's utterly amazing just how repetitive & delusional you morons are.
konank666 5 months ago
Well done Jayep! Video was both funny, ans straight forward. I wouldn't expect Truthers to ever give you a straight forward answer however.
eaglejoe8 6 months ago 3
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Favorite kook contradiction: "The flight data recorder from the plane tha tcrashed at the pentagon proves no plane crashed at the pentagon."
911 Truth = the Moron industrial complex.
EdgemanLL2 6 months ago
LOL BITCH!!! nice video
PlanetEarthAwakens01 7 months ago
Does AE911Twoof actually have an engineer from the demolition industry? Also, last I heard that fool Richard Gage a member. If AE911Twoof wants cred, they need to shun Gage. That guy is no scientist or engineer.
kangtimelord 10 months ago
their called hushabooms lol
Obelisk2290 10 months ago
@squeezeguerrini I'm a huge fan of the scientific method. Which is why I am not a fan of how the truthers conduct themselves
jayep 1 year ago 8
@TruthMakesPeace - have you all agreed on who the perpetrators are yet?
jayep 1 year ago 2
You're right that the Truther in-fighting only serves the perpetrators. You're right that there are many theories. But I have not heard anyone claim explosives would be planted in a weekend. The elevator repair company had 9 months to work in the WTC shafts. The point is, we need a new, scientific investigation. If the OCT turns out to be true, fine. If not, then the perpetrators need to be prosecuted.
TruthMakesPeace 1 year ago
@TruthMakesPeace How do you know a team using elevator repair as cover would be able to access areas where bombs need to be planted? The only areas that they would have access to is the elevator shafts Why hasnt anyone who worked at the WTC come forward to say "Y'know they said that they repaired/renovated/replaced the elevators before 9/11 but I didnt notice anything new about them" Are you saying that in addition to planting the bombs they also completed the work on the elevators as well?
SWEP2AOTC2002 11 months ago
@TruthMakesPeace
if you want a new investigation, who should do it? what entity could do the investigation?
Denierbud11 9 months ago
I also reccomend people go to google-video and search for "The war on truth". It's a good C-SPAN BookTV talk by Nafeez Ahmed and there is no speculative-conspiracy crap in it. But it DOES reveal some serious concerns about the US government prior to 9/11. Criminal negligence comes to mind. Why would they PROMOTE people who committed very serious failures on that day?
PersianPaladin 1 year ago
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@PersianPaladin TRUTHER INCONSISTENCY at work right here
"also reccomend people go to google-video and search for "The war on truth". It's a good C-SPAN BookTV talk"
Is this the same media that truthers want to demonize for helping perpetrate 9/11? C-Span is part of the media and therefore cannot be trusted right? The media are the ones that doctored to footage right? Cant have your cake and eat it too Im afraid
SWEP2AOTC2002 11 months ago
Phillip Zelikow.
Go research everything about him.
PersianPaladin 1 year ago
Brian are you saying Al Qaeda did 9/11 AND it was an inside job?
jayep 1 year ago 2
In your dreams. Go back to sleep.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 Go back to sleep.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney Edge wins again!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
So... You "can't" prove inside job, it that what you're saying?
jayep 1 year ago
It's not about proving "inside job". It's about accountability and truth.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney So you have no proof ,and you admit this.
Understood.
How, how should we hold accountable traitors like you who sided with the enemy who killed 3k people on 911?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 It's unreasonable to expect proof from me when the 9/11 Commission got $15 for their investigation and offered no proof, and NIST got $20 million and offered no proof.
I haven't sided with the enemy. I want the perpetrators of 9/11 identified and held accountable.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney Ok, so you DONT really believe in accountability or truth.
Understood.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 I believe in both, which is why I want the investigations. You seem to believe in blatantly dishonest coverups--28 pages redacted from the joint investigation, a Commission report authored by a Bush political flunkie, and an engineering report that dodges all of the difficult questions they were given.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney You believe in neither. YOu lie to distort the truth, and believe there should be no accountability for your treason.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 When did I lie? What treason did I do?
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney Ugh! Already explained you fuxing retard. 1) lie to distort the truth, and pretend Alqaeda didnt do it, and 2) Siding with the enemy (see #1) is treason.
Now, are you 1) LYING in pretending you it wasnt explained before? Or are you 2) an illiterate moron too fuxing retarded to understand what you read?
ANY RESPONSE THAT DOES NOT DECLARE 1 OR 2 WILL BE ACCEPTED AS AN ADMISSION THAT #1 IS TRUE, AND THAT YOU LIE.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 When did I lie? Claiming "you lied when you say you did not lie" is just sophistry out of the neocon play book. When did I side with the enemy?
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney Ok, so, #1 is true. Understood.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney If you have no proof of an inside job than WTF are you doing? If you have no proof of an inside job what makes you think the official story is bullshit?
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney LOL! You "can't" prove inside job
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
With criminal charges there is the jurisdiction problem. Hey, Condoleezza obviously perjured herself before the 9/11 comm'n. No charges. NORAD the same story.
There is mountains of evidence supporting the need for a new investigation.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney "Condoleezza obviously perjured herself before the 9/11 comm'n. No charges. NORAD the same story."
You have no proof of this so compels you t make this accusation?
What is the jurisdictional problem?
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
@SWEP2AOTC2002 The 9/11 Commision had $15 million and NIST had $20 million and neither one of them proved their case, so why do you expect me to prove anything. We need new investigations because the ones we had were corrupt and incomplete.
For Condi see my video "Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows". For NORAD lies see Kean and Hamilton "Without Precedent".
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney What videos are these? More comments taken out of context?
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
@SWEP2AOTC2002 Did she really? Why then was she not briught up on charges No one in the Bush Admin would be able to get away with tossing a chewing gm wrapper on the sidewalk without the press up their ass and Congress wanting them tarred and feathered BUT Condi Rice gets away with lying on the 9/11 Commission... oh wait Scooter Libby got busted for outing a useless CIA agent after the press already had done it
Yeah you guys make plenty of fucking sense and have loads of credibility
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
@SWEP2AOTC2002 Why was she not brought up on charges? Because she's walking, talking, living proof that the Exec. Branch is immune to the rule of law. Bush admitted to ordering illegal wiretaps-an impeachable and felonious offense-- and he admitted to ordering waterboarding, which is a crime under int'l law and thus Artivle VI of the constitution. Your lapdog press is useless. Wake up.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
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@punxsutawneybarney "the Exec. Branch is immune to the rule of law"
LOL Yeah tell that to Scooter Libby
Bush couldnt park in a handicap parking spot without threat of impeachment If Bush was guilty of ANYTHING the dems that took over Congress in 2006 would have gotten him so dont give us any of this lawless exec branch bullshit
SWEP2AOTC2002 11 months ago
Punxsutawneybarney + Snug-Bug of Screw Loose Change = Brian Good.
Brian, do yourself a favor, GET LOST! You think you can escape people by jumping from forums to blogs to YouTube videos because you're running away from the truth? You are weak Brian! For a janitor, like Willie Rodriguez, you are a God damn mess.
WhyAskQuestions 1 year ago
Awesome shit, as usual! I got a new theory to toss in :jewish reptillian scientologists working in colusion with the US postal service (secretly the stealth arm of the Bilderbergers) did it with mini-nuke suitcases. Don't worry about the whole logic/rational thinking part. Like any 9/11 conspiracy theory, you just need a few hits off the bong and all will become clearer..
SkadiTheElf 1 year ago
LOL...these guys make me laugh. Sadder still is that people claim to be Christian AND believe this conspiracy nonsense.
CRoadwarrior 1 year ago
its nice to see a video about truthers and on the comments section truthers getting there ASSES BEAT.
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
Very nicely done. Wish it was longer.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
Thank God Jay made this video. It's funny, true & to the point!
WhyAskQuestions 1 year ago
great video
athabascka 1 year ago
The truth "movement's" viagra is the CD theory/DEW/Pentagon flyover/thermite.
How dare you skeptics for interrupting their viagra doses!! How DARE you skeptics for interrupting their self-play time!
xAnacondax 1 year ago
Then why are you a truther, barney?
jayep 1 year ago
What I find comical is that stundie can say I'm falsely accusing him of shit and then turn around and say I made a call to my Jref buddies to help me out. Please Stundie, show me where I did this.
jayep 1 year ago
This is why I asked you to refute what I'm saying if you don't like it. If I leave a comment pointing out Gage's contradictions, referring to his "movement" as a cult (which it is), I think that someone I’ve never met referring to me as a "tramp" as a "response" implies disagreement. Gage's cult is a joke for supporting him. He's an idiot. If you're not in the cult, why respond with insults?
adkinsjr 1 year ago
@adkinsjr I'm not calling you a tramp as such, maybe you should read the comment I made to jayep about people like you commenting on my comments to understand the metaphor.
Are people in a cults the only types of people who responds with insults?? lol
Your having a logically fallacy field day here adkinsjr........lol
stundie 1 year ago
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Am I the one who brought up a conversation from a thread which doesn't exist anymore or was it you??
forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=6676918&postcount=26
jayep-->Ahhhh, Stundie! Have any more Scottish turns of phrases for me?
A conversation you brought up from 5 years ago. lol
Its fucking hilarious to watch lie without an ounce of fucking shame Sarge!! lol
And if you can be honest with your groupthinkers, what makes you think this video has a shred of honesty?? lol
stundie 1 year ago
Chickenshit
jayep 1 year ago
Not a chickenshit, I just don't get no satisfaction or enjoyment in picking on the village twat!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
Although I've enjoyed reminising and watching you create arguments which I have never made, taking quotes out of context or contributed something to the debunking community, I will bow out of these comments and leave you and your little friends to defend the t'interet from the evil twoofin twoofers.
The JREFians will rush to your aid and massage your ego and tell you that your shit video is the debunking kryptonite and a twoof slayer! lol
Keep up the good work, you didn't let me down. lol
stundie 1 year ago
Stundie, Stundie, Stundie... Tell me in your own words what this video was about. Go!
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep It's about how you think truthers are stupid because even though they all agree the official theory is wrong, they don't all agree on EXACTLY how it happened. Therefore the official story MUST be correct and they are stoopid!! lol
Official story tellers have different theories to explain the official narrative, they don't all agree with each other but why point out these contradictions??
Because you are fighting those toofin toofers.....lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stundie "don't all agree on EXACTLY how it happened."
Kind of the point. If it was so fuxing obvious like you morons claim, then you all WOULD have the same story, instead of hundreds of different versions.
And NO, Sorry once again, but the "official" story has always been "terrorists hijack 4 planes. Crash 2 at the WTC, 1 at the penty, and 1 was crashes in PA.
Unlike the kook movement, this has never changed. Theres never been a disagreement on that.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
I see another tramp is fighting for the sleeping bag. lol
Overall there is no disagreement, it's the official story for fucks sakes but on the finer details there is plenty of disagreement. lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stunLaden. of COURSE in an event like 911 there will be discrepencies of detail. when you get your GED and struggle down to the local JUCO, as any history major. Its normal
But you idiots cant even decide if the planes were real or not.
1) Sometimes a plane hit the penty
2) sometimes its a global hawk
3) sometimes a hologram hit the tower
4) sometimes its a real plane that shot a missile
5) sometimes the hologram plane shoots a real missile
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
6) sometimes flight 93 was shot down
7) sometimes 93 landed in cleveland
8) sometimes 93 was shot down after landing in cleveland
9) sometimes it was a plane that hit the penty
10-sometimes it was a missle that hit the penty
11-sometimes an A3 shot a missile, then flew itself into the hole
12-you morons claim the speeds were too fast for a 757.
13-then you morons claim the speeds were completey possible, just as long as its a flyover.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
The list is endless. consider that if you write "2+2=x, solve for x" and hand it to any math major, the answer is obvious. And they ALL come up with the same answer.
Thats the point, if the facts were so obvious (as they are with the terrorist attack) you idiots wouldnt have hundreds of different scenarios. If it was so obvious, you retards would obviously see all the same things.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
StunLaden<---WTF!! hahaha!!!
Piss poor just like your list is!!! lol
I hate to tell you this but these are the opinions come from many people........and those people form many groups and what you are doing is taking the opinions of many groups and shoehorning them into one to make it look like you have a point when you don't.
There is one thing they ALL agree on though, is that the official story is wrong. lol
stundie 1 year ago
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@stunLaden <--cant refute it, so he whines about it! LMAOOOOOOO
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@stunLaden. Check your own standards of criticism, retard.
For every pinhole contradiction in detail you can find in the terrorist attack, there are GRAND-FUXING-CANYON sized contradictions in the kook movement.
Tell me retard, why would Cheney order a standown to let 77 hit the penty, if the penty wasnt hit by 77 and was hit by a missile?
LMGDAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
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I don't need to matey, I'm not the one who claims that there are obvious descrepancies in the details of the official story while demanding a alternative theory descrepancy free......lol
And what sort of question is that?? lol Why would Cheney order a stand down??
If you do not know then switch the football of the TV and stop waving the flag because you come across like a perpetual idiot! lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stunLaden Translation: "I cant Edge, you were right. The contradictions are too huge!"
Youre welcome!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Well if that is what you read out of it, is it any wonder that any thought of a conspiracy flies over your head like a thousand shitting seagulls. lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stunLaden. Its not a read. Its reality. Choke on it. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
Oh so there can be discrepancies in the detail of the official story but NONE allowed in a alternative theory?? hahahahaha!!!! Go back and check DOUBLE STANDARDS IN THE APPLICATION OF CRITICISM you fake skeptic!!
I know you would like me to believe that it was space beams or hologramitic planes, hell you probably think I've been anally probed or something but you should know that I have never given a toss about what you think or what you think da toof thinks either. lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stunLaden. a descrpency in detail is "was the plane going 300 mph, or 450"
Thats much different than tyhe kook movement who have major REWRITES of the ENTIRE STORY/.
Kooks dont have discrepency of detail. you have COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORIES.
Duh!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
The reason why there is so many different stories is because we do not know what happened.
I believe in possibilities, maybe it happened like the official story goes, but maybe it didn't. I look at the possibilities and I could be wrong, I could be right.
That is the difference between a true skeptic and fucking groupthinking sucker like you matey!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stunLaden. LOLOLOL. No, retards like you KNOW exaclty what happened. It was a terrorist attack. But you like to lie anyway.
But thats the whole POINT retard. If it was so "obvious" what happened, you idiots would all be able to tell us what happened. YET YOU CANT.
You cant, because you shitheads are fighting against the facts. There is no Kookspiracy theory that fits all the facts even 1% as well as the terrorist attack does, as an explanation.
case caaaaaaaaaLOSED! LMGDAOOOO
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Where did I claim I KNEW exactly how it happened?? lol Oh thats right, I didn't!! lol
And here we have another fake skeptic floating of to the deepest recess of their imagination to create an argument. THAT I HAVE NEVER MADE!!! hahahahahahahaha!!!
Are you a dingle dangle scarecrow with a flippy floppy hat, can you shake you hands like this, and can ou shake your legs like that?? Mr Strawman!! lol
Not case closed, it's your brain, it's out of order!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stundie "Where did I claim I KNEW exactly how it happened? Oh thats right I didn't"
You dont know what happened NO toofer EVER claims to know what happened You are all just "ASKING QUESTIONS"
Well after 9 YEARS AND COUNTING us NORMAL people are sick & tired of you asking the same questions that have been answered over and over ad nauseum You are like little children asking why is the sky blue and when told you cant wont or just DONT accept the answer because it doesnt fit YOUR world view
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
@stundie "The reason why there is so many different stories is because we do not know what happened."
No the reason why you cant come up with a single definitive version of the official story is because all of the mountains of SHIT you call evidence of an inside job nothing more than cherry picked quotes 1/2 truths and outright lies You cant make all the conspiracy theories fit together to make one coherent story
You are trying to ram a 2ftx2t square into a 2 inch round hole
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
If you want to see rambling and poorly thought out.
Then take a good critical look at your own video. lol
Oh and all the arguments you've brought up from 5 years ago which you are still evidently still smarting from.
stundie 1 year ago
How dare you take Stundie's rambling and poorly thought out statements out of context! Just because he said something doesn't mean he said it, and if he didn't say anything that means that anything he said that suggests he would say it means you are falsely accusing him! And if you didn't accuse him you are something about Kurt Cobain and a condom! Lol hahahahahahaha!!!
jayep 1 year ago
Nah, I'd rather you stick around and try to defend the gaggle of futility that is "the truth movement".
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
"Nah, I'd rather you stick around and try to defend the gaggle of futility that is "the truth movement".
There is no such thing as a "truth movement." There is a "truth" cult though. Actually it's more of a half truth- half lies cult. But Stundie says he isn't in the cult, so I don't see why he would be defending it. In fact, I think he is just trolling for kicks because his comments don't seem thought out or coherent. He's just trolling to taunt and frustrate people.
adkinsjr 1 year ago
@adkinsjr Just because I don't believe the official story doesn't mean I have joined a truth group, or that I am truther, or a cult follower etc etc.
If you think your comment about me commenting on Gage and the so called truth cult is well thought out and coherent, then it shows us how dellusional you are to think I should comment on someone or a group that I have no affilation with!!! lol
And it's just shows us that you are cheerleading without being able to think for yourself. lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stundie
"Just because I don't believe the official story doesn't mean I have joined a truth group..."
My original comment pointed out a fundamental contradiction in Gage's laughably preposterous controlled demolition hypothesis, and referred to his futile "movement" as a cult. You have to admit that Gage's contradiction is an embarrassment to him and his supporters. If you're not in his cult, or a proponent of his preposterous beliefs, then why did you respond with insults, cont..
adkinsjr 1 year ago
I can't speak for Gage seeing as I'm not him or a part of his movement.
While you think it's an embarressment to him and you are entitled to your opinions, I don't think anything of a sort. But don't think for a minute that because I believe in a CD theory, doesn't mean I support Gage and neither does it mean I have to explain EXACTLY how it was done.
And the reason I respond in insults is because your claim I am a either troll/cult follower is insulting too you know?? lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stundie
"And the reason I respond in insults is because your claim I am a either troll/cult follower is insulting too you know?? lol"
No no no, I'm talking about your ORIGINAL "reponse" to my first comment. You insulted me first. I didn't call you a troll until after you called me a "tramp" and then left a slew of other snide remarks.
adkinsjr 1 year ago
@jayep There is nothing to defend because your video is absolutely fucking pointless!! lol
Sorry, I am wrong it's not pointless, no doubt your ego will get massaged by cheer leaders like adkinsjr eho actually think you are debunking something.....lol
stundie 1 year ago
I just commented on your video, you are the one who brought up the past.......lol
So stop your crying. I'll happily fuck off and leave you and your cheer leaders alone if you like, just stop trying to be a smart arse! lol
stundie 1 year ago
I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but there isn't a rash of truthers commenting on the contents of this video. And the ones that are saying anything are refusing to address it. They're doing exactly what you are doing. That should tell you something
jayep 1 year ago
Selective amnesia?? It was like 5 years ago and I'm sorry but I don't remember every single comment from the 2000 odd posts I made at the SLC forum.
If all you have is arguments from 5 years ago, then it shows us how little you have moved on, but then your stunning new video has.
Noticed that your vids gone by 28 more view. Been over to JREF for moral support again?? lol
Hence the arrival of your 1st tramp adkinsjr!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
Then you'll be able to describe how we got on the subject of compressed liquids then. Don't get selective amnesia on us now, stuntard.
jayep 1 year ago
lol @ Jayep................
Sorry but why the fuck would I argue that jet fuel could have been compressed while flowing down elevator shafts when I have NEVER ARGUED or BELIEVED that jet fuel went down the elevator shafts!! lol
I think you'll find it was you that was arguing that to explain the damage onj floors 22, the lobby and the basement you fucking retard!! lol
I thought it was explosives..........remember?? lol
Maybe The Stundies should be the Jayep awards now!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
Yes, dipshit, you stated that fuel could have been compressed while flowing down the elevator shafts. I called you a subject matter expert on scottish phrases after you argued for weeks about what you said was one. (That would be a case of you taking something out of context there) you also said you knew people that used it in conversation often. Now god damn, either it is or it isn't. Pick one. And while you're at it, find out the difference between a false accusation and a play on words.
jayep 1 year ago
Jet fuel compression in the WTC?? lol
Being a Scottish expert?? .lol
And that I had said or implied that it had been used in Scotland for years!! lol
I forgot how desperate you are Sarge! lol
And I never denied that I said what you have posted either dipshit!! lol But what you and your failmore friend forget to mention is that I PREVIOUSLY said that it COULD before the quote you have presented. lol
No backpeddling, just you being totally shit at this debunking again! lol
stundie 1 year ago
"If you wanted the building to come down, and blame it on fire, which is not explosive in nature, you would use a different type of charge, an incendiary to cut the beams. You would NOT use explosives which would give away your project. "
-Richard Gage
"The explosives had to be so intense; this is not a typical controlled demolition, so intense such as to hurl these beams at 65 mph laterally landing five hundred feet away."
-Richard Gage
Why do people laugh at the 9/11 "truth" cult?
adkinsjr 1 year ago
@adkinsjr Here come the first tramps fighting for the sleeping bag. lol
Don't you mean why do JREF groupthinkers laugh at the "truth" cult?
I dunno, maybe because the only sex education that was taught to them was to stay away from their fathers when he's drunk! lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stundie
WTF kind of refutation was that? Why don't you explain the contradictions of cult prophet, Richard Gage. Ignore that part of my comment why dontcha...
: )
adkinsjr 1 year ago
@adkinsjr Why do I have to explain some contradictions of someone you claim is cult prohpet when I am not a member of that cult or the person who made the comments?? lol
I know it's confusing but I am not Richard Gage.
So the refutation was fits the request.
And that is probably why you laugh at the truth cult!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
@stundie
O sorry, I thought you were yet another foaming-mouthed "truther" and a believer in the "controlled demolition" nonsense after your strange response to my comment. I don't see why you would respond like that if you're not in the cult, unless if you're just a troll...
"So the refutation was fits the request."
What?
adkinsjr 1 year ago
So the choices are I am either a troll or in a cult? hahahahahaha!!!!
Which fallacy are you employing here then?? lol
Oh and if you didn't know, I'm famous for my typos, laughing and my piss poor respect for grammar, punctuation, spelling which gives the grammar nazis like yourself a right stiffy.
Oh and I'm a stoopid twoofer to boot, hence they have an award named after me which I'm sure you can find out about at the place where you go dogging with twoofers. i.e. JREF
stundie 1 year ago
Only when I posted your comment did it go from being a true quote (see every single thing you posted up to that point) to being out of context. I applaud the desperation back pedal. Good show, stundie, good show. What other false accusations have I thrown your way?
jayep 1 year ago
Well lets see, so far you have thrown false accusations my way as a good psuedo debunker would do but when that fails, in your desperate attempts to debunk something, you go to taking the quote out of context of what I said previously!! hahahahahahaha!!!
Keep up the pseudo porn and judging from the comments, I can see you are gathering a following who will no doubt rush to your defense and jump over my comments like a group of tramps finding a North Face sleeping bag!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
Ooooh... Out of context now... I can see where my taking a saying that you have admitted to printing verbatum can be taken out of context. I mean, after all, you said it, you typed it, relaying the message that it IS a legit scottish phrase... Yeah, totally out of context. Illiterate for us some more, stundie, hahahahahahaha!!!!!
jayep 1 year ago
The quote you have taken is taken out of context by your failmore friend and is a quote taken after I had said it COULD. But hey, why let something like facts get in the way of a twoofer busting wank session. lol
Anyway, the quote is still in his paper, if he is wrong, go tell him instead of whining and crying about it years later to me.
The only thing I have learned all these years later is that you have about as much brains as Kurt Cobain dead body!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
This is the phrase in question - "Avoid like the plaque is a scottish turn of phrase". Nowhere in that sentence is the words "could be" or anything to suggest otherwise. You are stating something as fact when it is now apparent that you are just lying through your tooth (after all, you are british). You may now go back to your atlantis of wisdom known as the loose change forum.
jayep 1 year ago
Oh and I never said jet fuel was compressed in the WTC?? lol WTF!!! hahaha!!!
You are now making shit up or you've completely lost the fucking plot since your leader Gravy abandoned you like a kerb crawlers condom!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
No, what I argued is that it COULD be a scottish turn of phrase as I have heard the term before and plaque is still something to be avoided.
The only person who could answer the question of whether he used the term correctly or incorrectly is the author and all these years later, the author hasn't changed it, so what does that tell you?
And who gives a fuck about your question? Oh you do!! In a piss poor attempt to look to cover the fact you've been exposed as a fucking moron!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
So what you just admitted to was that you DID in fact argue that a made up phrase was common in scottish conversation, am I right? Also, Stumpie, since you seem adamant about compressed liquids - what is the maximum compression that has been documented on jet fuel, and how was that same technique duplicated inside the WTC, where you suggested that Jet Fuel was compressed?
jayep 1 year ago
You are dam right I am right fool!! lol
And where did I argue that it had been used (In Scotland I assume!) for years?? hahahahaha!!!
You are really heading into dredging the bottom of the ocean, where all those compressed liquids exist you claimed never existed!! lol
I truly forgot how pathetic your debunking is. I would advise you to get back in contact with Gravy sonshine, you need help!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
You're right. A real expert wouldn't have been so stupid as to argue that a made up phrase had been in use for years and also claimed to have friends that used that very phrase in person. I sincerely apologize for overstating your underachievements.
jayep 1 year ago
Now where did I ever claim I was a expert on Scottish turns of phrase??
Oh that's right, I didn't!! But why let a good lie get in the way of your imagination. lol
And you still haven't proved me wrong, neither did your scottish failmore bukakke buddy!! Even after all these years, you still appear bitter about it!! lol
Oh well!
Without Mark Roberts, you have nothing to verbally wank about anymore and have to make these psuedo porn vids to stafisfy the bukakke fest that is JREF!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
I thought you were the subject matter expert on what a scottish turn of phrase was, after all, instead of admitting you had the wrong word you argued for weeks that "avoid like the plaque" was an actual scottish saying. I guess that's why you have your own award named after you, dumbass.
jayep 1 year ago
If you want any more Scottish turns of phrase, speak to your authority on all things Scottish. That failmore character who thinks the Scottish Language isn't English with an accent and it's own dialect. lol
Have you worked out that you can actually compress liquids yet?? lol
stundie 1 year ago
Ahhhh, Stundie! Have any more Scottish turns of phrases for me?
jayep 1 year ago
Ahh!! Nice to see you have moved on from making shit arguments on the SLC forum to making extremely shit videos.
Keep peddling shit, it's what makes you special!! lol
stundie 1 year ago
Sorry, teach. I fell asleep. I didn't say Les Robertson was an anonymous source. I said you were an anonymous source. Your anonymous claims about what Robertson said are hearsay, sourced to yourself. Sorry you don't know these basic things but you better learn or you're going to wind up getting scammed.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
LOLOL. bawny cries, cuz he got proved wrong. QUOTING someone is NOT hearsay.
So, do you know better than Robertson, or not?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 Quoting someone is hearsay if you don't source your quote, numbskull. I'm not saying I know better than Robertson, I'm saying I know better than you.
Yes, when reporters tell you what somebody else said, that is hearsay. That is why reporters write under their real names, and write in public, and correct their errors and take responsibility--because their credibility depends on their integrity.
You are not a reporter like Glanz or Lipton. You are anonymous. No credibility.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney "Quoting someone is hearsay if you don't source your quote,"
Wrong again.
and besides which, I even linked to vids where Robertson states it, HIMSELF
YOU have made-up quotes from made-up sources.
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@Bitch. So, its very simple, very basic.
1) you know more about it than Robertson
or
2) youre a moron who got proved wrong.
Which is it?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
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@EdgemanLL2 It's very simple to you.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 It's very simple to you. False dichotomies are very attractive to the logically impaired.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@Moron.
Its not a false dichotemy. either you know more than he. Or he knows more than you.
Which is it?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 You changed the dichotomy, of course it's still false since both legs are true.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney didnt really change it, since youd be a moron if you picked "bawny knows more than he" so its the same question either way.
Whats the answer?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 Thanks for demonstrating your incompetence at logic.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney Translation: Robertson knows WAY more than PunxatawnyMoron.
The buildings were NOT designed for a 600 mph hit.
Moron bitched out, and refused to answer, because she knew Edge was right!
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 Says an anonymous internet poster. The White paper of 2/64 says they were, and Glanz and Lipton believe that was based on the Skilling firm's analysis.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney <--says the admitted internet liar.
Posting vids of Robertson in his OWN words is not anon.
"a reporter talked to a guy who talked to a guy who said so" IS.
Man up, you sniveling little coward. Just tell us how YOU know more than Robertson. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 I never manned down, Edgemonkey. I'm not going to watch 30 minutes of video to find out it doesn't say what you claim. When I cite Glanz's book, I give the page number. If you want to cite a video, you need a time stamp.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@Coward. blah blah blah. you wanted sources, I have you sources. I linked you to the guy, in his own words, speaking for himself.
Its not debateable, its not opinion, its a fact, Robertson Proves you WRONG. it was never 600 mph.
Man up bitch, just say it "Barny was wrong! it was never 600 mph"
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 The 2/64 paper says it was 600 mph. Leslie Robertson doesn't know everything that happened.
Glanz says that was based on Skilling's work.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
Actually, he DOES know ,because HE would have to have been the one to perform the calculations. It was his design.
There was no 600 mph study.
The guy who BUILT the thing TOLD YOU IN HIS OWN WORDS WHAT THE SPECS WERE.
Its NOT debateable.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 Leslie Robertson didn't build the thing. At the time of the 707 study he was 35 years old.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney Shocker! believe it or not, people can actually be engineers at 35 years old!
and AS the guy who builit it,
a) he knows better than anyone its tolerances
b) hed know if a 600 mph study was ever done--it wasnt
c) he knows EXACTLY what he disigned it for. It wasnt 600 mph hit.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@Moron. so any way you want to spin this
a) I have the DIRECT QUOTES from the guy who designed the fuxing thing.
b) you have hearsay "a reporter talked to a guy in 1993 and believes the guy referred back to something he read in 1964 and,,,,"
Even IF there was a 600 mph study done, if would NOT trump the guy who built the thing. The fact that no 600 mph study was ever done makes the lie even MORE laughable, in the face of DIRECT evidence, from the designer, to the contrary.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago