Martin Amis Christopher Hitchens a conversation about Antisemitism and Saul bellow Part 7

[socratic1968]

"hitler, lenin, stalin"

Funny how these dipshits keep ignoring Trotskuy. "Bronstein" was Trotsky's former name. How many people were starved to death by Hitchens hero in the Ukraine?

So, disband the Jewish social order. It is a sick self serving group.

[Brantinger]

The trinity of horro is Hitler, Stalin and Mao. The crimes committed by Trotsky and Lenin never came close to the level of the former three. Hitchens took part in a whole session of "uncommon knowledge" devoted to Trotsky in which Hitchens is very critical of him....

[socratic1968]

I agree that two million starved by Bronstein is not as bad as 20 million killed in wwII by hitler's actions.

Can you imagine, seriously, sitting on your farm, wondering what your crying children will eat? why? because urban (sorry but true) jews took your seed stock to feed the top party members?

Why can't people give their loyalty to HUMANITY first.

Hichens falls deeping for jewish tribalism.

BTW, did you read how the partner is Bernie Madoff was found at the bottom of his pool?

[Brantinger]

Thats why I called the two mentioned criminals and indeed they did disgusting things, I dont need to be instructed about that...

Hichtens allways called and still calls zionism a stupid idea, till today he sais openly that Israelis on the westbank stealing the land of other people. That does not look like falling for tribalism to me...

[patrickm433]

Only problem with the Hitch/Bellow story about his Time magazine interview is that Bellow studied/majored in Anthropology in college.

[david552]

@patrickm433 I think Bellow was lying to make himself seem more qualified...

[alienmoonbase]

Jews are great for society!?

Just look at the recent 50 trillion dollar loss of wealth of the lowly gentiles.

Bernie Madoff, Ivan Boskey, Michael Milken.

Greenspan, Rubin, Summers - tag teamed an effort in 1998 to regulate derivatives.

Fuld and Lehman?

Hank Greenberg of AIG?

How much money from the host do you sick fucks need?

[Zdrazy]

Even if what you say has any basis whatsoever, the actions of a few individuals does not, in any way, prove that jews are somehow intent on stealing other people's wealth or that they are innately avaricious.

[alienmoonbase]

Can I appeal to your sense of reason for a moment?

Per wiki, the jewish population is 1.7%.

Why then are those involved in the wholesale looting of the savings of the working class mostly Jewish?

Fuld of Lehman? Jewish

AIG's Greenberg? Jewish (created the fucking financial products aka derivatives unit of AIG)

Greenspan called the housing bubble "Froth" and profited when on the bubble, then, like a greedy lunatic went to work for a company that profited on the downside!

Explain it?

[Zdrazy]

You've still failed to demonstrate why the fact (let's say you're correct for now) that there are a few unscrupulous jewish people working in finance shows that all jewish people are thieves intent on 'stealing the money of the working class'.

[alienmoonbase]

You're making a straw man argument. Obviously all jews are not thieves anymore than all germans were nazis in wwii.

BUT, enough were that they did a hell of a lot of damage.

[Zdrazy]

Well, I didn't intend to create a strawman. But it certainly looks like you see a correlation between being jewish and being greedy. If you acknowledge that being jewish doesn't predispose one to do bad things then I don't understand why you make special note of the fact that some of these people happen to be jewish.

[socratic1968]

he's making that point because jews keep pushing their jewishness on everyone.

These morons think we should be proud that freud was a jew. Are you proud that he thought that women's psychological problems are caused by "penis envy"

Read the Rolling Stones piece on Goldman Sachs this month if you don't think there is a problem with jewish tribalism.

[Zdrazy]

And I've gotta state that when you use sentences like "Jews are great for society!?", it does indeed look as though you're endicting all jews on a general level, not just some of them.

[danny123xvz]

have u read his works on payne and jefferson? like i said light weight

[danny123xvz]

have read everything amiss has written, love his work, find hitchens a little light weight, but funny, i just meant creepy in this video

[shokland]

how so?

[danny123xvz]

it may be a class thing and i watched in the early hours

[danny123xvz]

but also "jews first to see through" all that nonsense

[danny123xvz]

they come across as creeps and i'm jewish

[lord69z]

Then you didn't understand or...

Sorry bro - if you consider someone whos direct and blunt as creeps then i suppose i am one also.

[danny123xvz]

i like their bluntness, the way they sucked up to the audience made them creepy

[lord69z]

maybe only cuz jews are a touchy subject :)

I rly dont like talking about any race/religion/etc in broad terms.

[socratic1968]

You got minus six marks because you have an opinion and Jews are knee jerk loyalists to ANYTHING jewish.