Yeah, I never said anything negative about this video. I like this video because it shows multiple attacks through a transition. Eddie is great too. Those of you who are ignorant to what a multiple attacker is... STFU.
@ScoKimber lol and your kung fu will do much better against more than one attacker you do know that what bruce lee did in the movies wasnt real right?
@ScoKimber your an idiot just stop commenting if you have nothing decent to say about the sweet vid. keep it to your lame sorry self no one cares about your opinions anyways
@PublicICON It's 10th Planet, but it's all jiu jitsu. However, if you're going to regionalize it, I'd definitely say Eddie is one of the major influences in American Jiu Jitsu.
awesome video eddie brovo is amazing i got his mastering the rubber guard book for christmas and its so helpful my bjj has improved alot since working out of his book just recently got my blue belt during the summer
@PrsFenderJackson1980 : I think it was the omoplata and the triangle, but you can switch from triangle to armbar if you got his arm. rubber guard is very good
The one at the end is called the Carni. It looks like an omaplata but you trap the calf which you don't do with the regular omoplata and you finish with your arms instead of sitting up.
Eddie is the luckiest guy the only reason anyone knows who he is is because he beat Royler with what? wait not a rubber guard transition just.....a triangle my instructor beat a gracie why isn't our school as famous?
@Entellijence wat? i dont know royler gracie's jiu jitsu record but im sure that hes lost a bunch of times. everyone he looses to doesnt become famous. you sound jelous to me my friend. Eddie INVENTED THE RUBBER GAURD! thats a pretty big achievement if you ask me.
@koldkilla124 what? Tons of people where using "the rubber guard" pre eddie bravo, Shaolin, bj penn, hell Nino Schembri "invented" it. Bravo just developed it.
Lady in the background u need to get out of there, these men are doing real workout, u and your kids are distracting and u need to go home and make something to eat and shower cause lord knows you have a SUUUPER, STIIIINKY BUTT, then put your smelly ass on the bed where u belong
UFC UNDISPUTED! to anyone who plays ufc undisputed i never realized this but everyone has 2 people holding a flag behind you when your getting introduced or whatever u wanna call bruce buffer yelling your name out like a mad man, if you pick frank mir eddie bravo is one of the two guys back there lol, kinda dumb but its cool that hes on the game...
man this guy is the real deal, hes a bad dude, i would not wanna roll with him, his flexibility is like bj's and just mindset is like the gracies, eddie bravo does not mess around.
I read Fedors book on fight method cover to cover. Nothing this complicated in it. The triangle chocke seemed the most technical move in it to me which I like because It makes sense. I guess this does too it just doesn't strike me as all that practical in fight conditions. Maybe in WWE when both parties have a script to work from lol:
I train at ATT in Orlando, FL... and we have some exercises for flexiblility in MMA but what are some good ones I can do on my own free time... like lets say at home by myself???
im not talkin shit. im sure there are advantages to rubberguard sometimes. but lets be real..when have u seen rubber guard win a fight in the ufc? never. the only times i have seen it were with aoki..and thats in japan. ive seen penn use his flexibility and that leg to grab on but thats not rubber guard. and u need to actually watch the diaz bros fights. cuz if im missin sumthin then go ahead show me
@thedoc56 i'm in the same boat. Looks good, but I think these techniques go too far in trying to make something simple very complicated. At least just seems that way. Submissions in the UFC seem to be still dominated by simple setups that have stood the test of time. Unless someone has a vid to point me to.
nononono! 10thplanet is not complicated in any way. it LOOKS complicated because it introduces some really unique things, but once you learn it, you can literally breeze through ADCC and MMA. the rubber guard and the prison guard are just systems that are really organised and are designed for control and domination
yea i thought it was too but then i started studin all the vids and stuff now i am pretty good at my dojo all my freinds r getting tapped out and now i am showing them it is a great system to learn cant wait till i train with the man eddie
i hope you get to learn with eddie, dude! big ups!
and good work now that you are improving your game! heres a little tip:
when i wanted to improve my grappling game, i went around and went to a bjj place, a submission wrestling camp, a no-gi bjj dojo, AND an aikido dojo. All in all, i've greatly improved my game, and am a pretty well-rounded grappler. right now, i'm just going to semi-pro tournaments, but as soon as i get better in all aspects of grappling, i'll enter ADCC, and maybe even mma
@thedoc56 I believe Jason "Doomsday" something won while in mission control by strikes as well as Katsamura in Shooto. Vinny Magalaes used it to win a fight on TUF 8 and Dustin Hazelett has used it in multiple fights for submission victories in the UFC... As well as you said BJ Penn
i dont care how many matches eddie has won or lost, or who he has or has not beat. simple point is he is an innovator and great coach. if you dont like his system, dont use it, but you better learn how to defend against it.
hey tomwalker389...why dont you look up eddie bravo before you make that comment.....youll find he was the first to beat a gracie in jiu jitsu....or watch his match versus royler gracie then ask what he has won
he may have never won nothing but using logic you can easily see how the rubber guard is a must have in your ground game. should it be used as a cruch? no, using anything as your soul system is not the way to go, using it as a tool, then is when this style shines the most
who the fuck cares what he has won... he is changing the face of no gi jiu jitsu and making it more complex, more interesting and more valid in the mma game! so stfu, stop hating the guy is amazing! guys like vinny maghales, sotiropulous both train with him and are showing how eddies 10th planet jiu jitsu can be utilised for mma purposes! so hush
bravo didnt win adcc any year,he beat royler fair and square with a move royler was unfamilar with and then got destroyed by leo viera and promptly retired in case he got beat again.
tkstka is right thedoc56 - you don't seem the have expirience with the rubberguard.
As to your "the UFC is the ultimate proving grounds" argument - I agree! but pay closer attention - it's the ULTIMATE proving ground - it'll take a few more years, but you'll see it there too.
MMA is still evolving, and the rubberguard has'nt been weighed, measured and found wanting like, let's say, taekwondo...
Eddie is a martial arts genius. All of us have reflected and whined on how the guy in your guard can still do a lot if he postures up but Eddie found a response ;)
because most of the moves are illigal in bjj and subwrestling..
For example Twister it's a spine lock and not legal in sub or bjj.
why people dont use rubberguard more is because people arent flexible or dont know anything about rubberguard.
I tap upper belts and bigger guys easily with rubberguard and they usually dont know how to even defend. It has sharpen my overhook game so much and my omoplata and triangle game so much.
im talkin mma though. ppl dont use it more cuz it doesnt work as well. i mean i know how joe rogan is all gay for it but name one top level ufc guy who uses it effectivley
Ok let me make this clear and make you understand how the level of UFC is.
Most of the ufc fighters are hardcore wrestlers
and strikers who do not grapple for submissions.
What usually happends in UFC is they battle it out someone gets dropped and the other guy goes for GnP. Usually from openguard butterfly to halfguard. Most guys dont even try passing the guard they wait for the round to end or referee to stand them up
Now most other organisations have much higher grappling compitition then UFC. most Japanese MMA organisations are better and the scoring supports grapplers who try to pass the guard and trying submissions.
There are guys in UFC who have better record on paper but I believe would get tapped by a japanese fighter.
About Rubberguard. Well it's made for MMA and reason why it hasnt been used alot and when it has been it's been easily escaped is simple. Nobody knows how to hold rubberguard.
Well you might ask "knee?". Yes a knee! most people who try rubberguard have never fucking used in their lives and seen it on youtube then go fighting and wonder why it didnt work and then go bash it and say "it's no good".
Most fighters who use rubberguard have the wrong grip. They use their fingers to hold the leg and palm towards opponents butt, when in reality you should have fist closed and fingers pointing at you.
If done with wrong grip you opponent can easily stand and you lose the grip.
Most people think rubberguard is about the leg going over the neck and that's it. Well it's not!
it's about the damn knee hugging. If you do not hug the knee your opponent will get away. That's why getting gogoplata is risky and you might end up losing it.
its called mixed martial arts. if the Xcore wrestlers r goin for Gnp then good for them but the point of mma is to win and rubber guard hasnt been shown to be effective in the highest level of fighting competition.which is the UFC. i agree that the scoring isnt favorable for graplers but put demian maia in there with any japo fighter and he wud submit them. u dont think thats a little strange that theres no top level rubber guard guy in the ufc? why arent rubber guard grapplers winning abudabi?
Well ask yourself a question what is better way to control closed guard, wrist control or overunder or maybe rubberguard?
Wrist control sucks. Opponent will easily get his hands free and punch.
Well tight over/under? Still sucks he will eventually get his hands free and lay down punches.
With rubberguard you will not get hit and even if he does it's forced triangle. If he just stalls and doesnt do anything you can try gogo's or force the Omoplata.
The brazilians are so highlevel grapplers that it's not even funny. I belong to Alliance and talk to the blackbelts there at Fabios gym. Michael Langi told me he trains 8 hours a day.
when most who train 10th planet are amateurs who train just 2 hours max a day and 3 to 4 times a week.
When I heard the Michael Langis day rutine it was I coulnt believe it. They do it with pure proffession and take it seriously.
So you are asking stupid questions: "why doesnt amateurs win proffessionals?"
you do understand how dumb you sound?
No offence but rubberguard is the best way to block the punches and it's always a free omoplata but we know succeed rate of Omoplata is low so you dont get it always but at least you did a sweep and got in sidecontrol.
well then ur telling me rubberguard is amatuer. that no one trains rubberguard enough to win with it? that its not in the ufc because no one "really" knows how to use it. sry but that smells like bullshit. look at the best of the best. is rubberguard there? no.
Yes someone did Rubberguard in 97-99 ufc and broke opponents arm. Dont remember the fighters name but it's very rare to see someone actually knowing rubberguard. I've seen people try rubberguard but fail miserably for stated reasons.
But yes most fighters in "ufc" dont know rubberguard or twister. I dont even think twister is legal in UFC because it's spine lock.
put a year ago some japanese did twister in zst organisation.
and no rubberguard is not "amatuer" and it's not "proffessional". It's a position just like any other.
Most faggots are hating because it's not "brazilian" and for some reason hate Eddie.
Always talking about how eddie didnt invent anything. YES HE DID! He is the reason why rubberguard has come so much. He is the reason why twister was invented and made a working move in real grappling and not show wrestling. He had to make adjustions to twister to get it work.
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the diaz bros are cesar gracie students. no rubber guard there. and bj penn doesnt not use that rubber crap to win fights. rubber guard doesnt win fights. gracie jiujiutsu does.
yea, you need to do some more research on there fights, the Diaz's use rubberguard, im in Alliance and we even practice some rubberguard. And Bj Penn does use rubberguard too.
@thedoc56 lol stop being so narrow minded wont learn shit in that mind set, dustin hazelett used rubber guard against tamdan mccory in ufc . rubber guard is very effective it just takes time to develop just like anything u do , fank mir just doesnt know the basics and makes himself look stupid in this vid. and you have to be very flexible to do rubber guard ,time and stretching will get you there . it took me 7 months of constant stretching to get me where i needed to be in the rubber guard
ohhh thanks! thats why adcc champs use it? thats why gsp and anderson silva and fedor use it? oh no wait none of them do. bottom line. gjj is more effective. dont kid urself
dude, a lot of gjj's offensive techniques are rendered useless in a no-gi situation. trust me, 10thPJJ is still bjj, but is more efficient in a SPORT scenario. in a self-defense scenario, gjj is the way to go, but you'll later see that 10thpjj will dominate. so just sit back, learn, and judge AFTER you learn some 10th planet
it dominates because it is more known, unlike 10thplanet and mma in general. but once it goes mainstream...man will it spread fast. don't think of it as a new martial art, but a small branch from the bjj tree
gracie jiu jitsu is already proved time and time again to be the most dominate martial art ever invented, thanks the gm helio, do u train gjj? ill be in lagrange starting mid february
@nizepart0519 Damn i'm at a Renzo academy, we don't learn it. My instructos won't teach, what they dont' practice. I'd like to learn it though, and become flexible.
Eddie Bravo's system is very effective if your opponent isn't challenging. Otherwise, you have more things to worry about then trying something "new" on the mats. Eddie Bravo is a black belt and flexible beyond all means. I haven't heard anything or seen anything groundbreaking from 10th Planet since... ever.
@mmfire THAT WHY THEY DON'T LET U DO 10 TH PLANET MOVES IN ADCC NO THIS NO THAT AND THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THEN THE RUBBER GUARD JUST WATCH U WILL SEE RICCOSANTANA FROM 10 PLANET RIVERSIDE
this is why frank mir will dominate even more in his career... b/c hes training with eddie! he's gonna do what other fighters are too lazy to learn... i know he'll beat lesner again. and im a lesner fan!
naw, lesner was pounding on him but was unprepared and got fuckup now he gunna do the samthing but be ready for submissions, hes just to big, i hate lesner hes so cocky and shit, we need fedor
Lesner is a very good fighter... naturally... everyone claims he's overated just because he spent some time in fake wrestling.. but if you look at his amature wrestling and shit... everyone would be flipping out... most of the buligerant bullshitters that dont have a clue what they're talking about claim brock has no technique... hes naturally a beast... lol
those guys are all masters and are great, but didn't Eddie beat Royler Gracie using primarily rubber guard? Eddie didn't just suprise him, that wasn't a quick submission/type match, and Eddie extensively used the RG in it.
Basics are great, but this stuff is evolving the ground game.
Eddie beat Royler on a fluke. Let's be real. Royler had Eddie on points the whole way and got a bad beat. It happens. I tapped a purple belt the other day with a toe hold, I'm a 4 stripe white belt. Am I just AWESOME? No, I got lucky, it was there.
I don't agree it was a fluke. Here's why: He was attempting a triangle choke frome a position he set up called the pyramid. This is a well documented position in the 10th planet system. this proves my point that a guy who practices traditional gi bjj has inadequacies just like the 10th planet and all systems do. Tha's why it's so fun you never know who will win. Like chess!
Eddie Bravo is a crazy man. Also he's funny as shit. Joey Karate bitch's
ChokedOut18 1 week ago
Awesome. Cool to see Frank Mir learning from one of the best.
friesenmp 1 week ago
great video. i dont think i ever enjoyed a video soo much, 1000 thumbs up
3agles4life1 3 weeks ago
Rubber Guard is just another level, best technique to use from full guard
missionkid 1 month ago
I bet Mir finds a way to break an arm or two from rubber guard
Bossalinni13 1 month ago 3
Yeah, I never said anything negative about this video. I like this video because it shows multiple attacks through a transition. Eddie is great too. Those of you who are ignorant to what a multiple attacker is... STFU.
ScoKimber 4 months ago
black belt rubber guard
Patspies 4 months ago
mir using rubber guard my life is complete
steeler43013 6 months ago
Multiple attackers will break dance all over your ass. Hahaha!
ScoKimber 6 months ago
@ScoKimber of course yes, whats your point?
mok0s1 6 months ago
@ScoKimber lol and your kung fu will do much better against more than one attacker you do know that what bruce lee did in the movies wasnt real right?
G0DatC0D 6 months ago
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ScoKimber 6 months ago
@ScoKimber and im sure they would have your cheeks on a platter in an even worse way
MrDurantula035 4 months ago
@MrDurantula035 I don't understand what you're saying.
ScoKimber 4 months ago
@ScoKimber your an idiot just stop commenting if you have nothing decent to say about the sweet vid. keep it to your lame sorry self no one cares about your opinions anyways
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ScoKimber 4 months ago
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DUDE YOU'RE BLEEDING!!!
Rugaal5Method 6 months ago
he went from open guard to a triangle to an omoplata in like 20 seconds! that omoplata was fast as shit!
02tangle7pa 6 months ago
eddie is da shit
poganla123 7 months ago
The rubber guard was create by a Mexican American so it really ain't Brazilian Jiu Jitsu right.
PublicICON 7 months ago
@PublicICON It's 10th Planet, but it's all jiu jitsu. However, if you're going to regionalize it, I'd definitely say Eddie is one of the major influences in American Jiu Jitsu.
pearcemark2 7 months ago
@PublicICON Mestizo Jiu Jitsu? Sick...
clipophile 6 months ago
What an amazing instructor, and what a cool guy Eddie is!
evitigre 7 months ago
Haha frank seems like his such a student trying to impress Eddie here.
killymckillkill 8 months ago
"DUDE YOU'RE BLEEDING" LMAO
jaarnet 9 months ago 2
it's all fun and games till that guy starts bleeding
MrSamyboi911 11 months ago 3
awesome video eddie brovo is amazing i got his mastering the rubber guard book for christmas and its so helpful my bjj has improved alot since working out of his book just recently got my blue belt during the summer
skaterkidhma 11 months ago
@skaterkidhma Can u give a short summary of what the book consists of?
horlur 9 months ago
i think im gona go watch eddy bravo next
y2taner 11 months ago
sean williams guard is better
MmaNcovers 1 year ago
lol dude you bleeding?
shaBAM33 1 year ago
eddie ftw!
appppppa 1 year ago
"Dude you bleeding?" no shit dude you just fucked him up in like ten different positions LMAO!!! Eddie Bravo is the man!! LOL
LatinoWorldOrder 1 year ago 11
ultimate fighter 14 needs to be frank mir brock lesnar
cfrancis 1 year ago
he's a hyperactive motherfucker, no wonder he smokes weed, if he didnt he'd probably explode lol
mgbrawl 1 year ago
10:16 DUDE ARE YOU BLEEDING ?
marioroldos 1 year ago 2
Eddie just made Frank look like a Blue Belt.
Frank is the man
DGrant1010 1 year ago 2
I'm shocked Mir didnt know the gogoplata...
DrVoltage1 1 year ago
@DrVoltage1 i think he said he doesnt use it not that he didnt know what it was
blusuck 1 year ago
@DrVoltage1 frank knew what the gogo was, he just said he didnt really use it.
mgbrawl 1 year ago
amazing vid, cant believe i only just found it.
"dude your bleeding"
lol
karimbo92 1 year ago 2
There is a little kid walking in the octagon while Frank Mir is practicing. It's humorous to realize the superstars are just like us.
dirtbike7327 1 year ago
Can someone tell me what submissions are being shown here? From rubber guard.
PrsFenderJackson1980 1 year ago
@PrsFenderJackson1980 : I think it was the omoplata and the triangle, but you can switch from triangle to armbar if you got his arm. rubber guard is very good
ottl2 1 year ago
@PrsFenderJackson1980
Omaplata - shoulder lock using the hips/legs after Eddie pushes the face with his foot and ends up sitting next to the opponent
Gogoplata - choke with the ankle
Triangle Choke - choke with the legs
At the end was modified Kimura/shoulder lock.
Not sure what funky names Eddie has decided to call all of these.
quiznitch 1 year ago
@quiznitch
The one at the end is called the Carni. It looks like an omaplata but you trap the calf which you don't do with the regular omoplata and you finish with your arms instead of sitting up.
Zevvion 1 year ago
wow eddie is very smart.
reporter 1 year ago 3
Dude eddie bravo is a MAD Genius when it comes to bjj
Mochoe 1 year ago
I wonder if those are Frank's kids walking into the octagon around the 2 minute mark??
wuebbsco 1 year ago
"Dude, you bleeding?" Good stuff
1tmoch 1 year ago
@1tmoch Like a perfect end note to the video.
mongoose7777 1 year ago
for the whole first minute I thought that trainer was joe rogan -_-
GooGobbler113 1 year ago
man ... this video makes Frank Mir looks like a white belt !
Rofny 1 year ago
10th Planet has no more than 3 black belts right now..haha. Give them time, and you'll see the system used more in adcc.
1MoreRoundbrother 1 year ago
This entire video is such a wealth of knowledge.
RyanZawicki 1 year ago 37
Eddie is the luckiest guy the only reason anyone knows who he is is because he beat Royler with what? wait not a rubber guard transition just.....a triangle my instructor beat a gracie why isn't our school as famous?
Entellijence 1 year ago
@Entellijence wat? i dont know royler gracie's jiu jitsu record but im sure that hes lost a bunch of times. everyone he looses to doesnt become famous. you sound jelous to me my friend. Eddie INVENTED THE RUBBER GAURD! thats a pretty big achievement if you ask me.
koldkilla124 1 year ago
@koldkilla124 what? Tons of people where using "the rubber guard" pre eddie bravo, Shaolin, bj penn, hell Nino Schembri "invented" it. Bravo just developed it.
Entellijence 1 year ago
@Entellijence nino only invented the gogo i never seen him use the rubber guard
mmagamer4life 1 year ago
Dude your bleeding,...
SingSongsYAY 1 year ago
@SingSongsYAY lol funny way to end the video hahaha
unlockthepower 1 year ago
MY NIGGA JAMES HORNE IN DIS BIIIITCH...hahaha
TGODparker 1 year ago
bravos jiujitsu's fucking awesome!
idl4587 1 year ago
Lady in the background u need to get out of there, these men are doing real workout, u and your kids are distracting and u need to go home and make something to eat and shower cause lord knows you have a SUUUPER, STIIIINKY BUTT, then put your smelly ass on the bed where u belong
mr1derful112 1 year ago
@mr1derful112 ........... .....What?!
0Akeldama0 1 year ago
this may be a really immature comment... but, frank mir, is an UGLY motherfucker
sphinx6027 1 year ago
UFC UNDISPUTED! to anyone who plays ufc undisputed i never realized this but everyone has 2 people holding a flag behind you when your getting introduced or whatever u wanna call bruce buffer yelling your name out like a mad man, if you pick frank mir eddie bravo is one of the two guys back there lol, kinda dumb but its cool that hes on the game...
aeagle1218 1 year ago
if you practice at 10th planet he's there every time, sleeve tat and all :) pretty cool stuff
sphinx6027 1 year ago
@aeagle1218 ever noticed greg jackson also? he appears with GSP, Rashad & Jardeen. plus more
crazyjake29 1 year ago
man this guy is the real deal, hes a bad dude, i would not wanna roll with him, his flexibility is like bj's and just mindset is like the gracies, eddie bravo does not mess around.
aeagle1218 2 years ago
i love the 10thplanet system. i've been going to a few seminars and i've had my game increase dramatically.
AznInvazn69Theory 2 years ago
I read Fedors book on fight method cover to cover. Nothing this complicated in it. The triangle chocke seemed the most technical move in it to me which I like because It makes sense. I guess this does too it just doesn't strike me as all that practical in fight conditions. Maybe in WWE when both parties have a script to work from lol:
fredbloggs02 2 years ago
i liked reading your comment. =)
AznInvazn69Theory 2 years ago
I train at ATT in Orlando, FL... and we have some exercises for flexiblility in MMA but what are some good ones I can do on my own free time... like lets say at home by myself???
mmafighter2727 2 years ago
anyone have a video of a rubber guard being used to set up a submission in MMA competition?
shasan 2 years ago
eddie bravo is so flexible, his legs are like 2 extra arms o_O
waldomarek 2 years ago 2
fuk hez a flexible cunt
blusuck 2 years ago
im not talkin shit. im sure there are advantages to rubberguard sometimes. but lets be real..when have u seen rubber guard win a fight in the ufc? never. the only times i have seen it were with aoki..and thats in japan. ive seen penn use his flexibility and that leg to grab on but thats not rubber guard. and u need to actually watch the diaz bros fights. cuz if im missin sumthin then go ahead show me
thedoc56 2 years ago 4
@thedoc56 i'm in the same boat. Looks good, but I think these techniques go too far in trying to make something simple very complicated. At least just seems that way. Submissions in the UFC seem to be still dominated by simple setups that have stood the test of time. Unless someone has a vid to point me to.
shasan 2 years ago
nononono! 10thplanet is not complicated in any way. it LOOKS complicated because it introduces some really unique things, but once you learn it, you can literally breeze through ADCC and MMA. the rubber guard and the prison guard are just systems that are really organised and are designed for control and domination
AznInvazn69Theory 2 years ago
yea i thought it was too but then i started studin all the vids and stuff now i am pretty good at my dojo all my freinds r getting tapped out and now i am showing them it is a great system to learn cant wait till i train with the man eddie
mmagamer4life 2 years ago
i hope you get to learn with eddie, dude! big ups!
and good work now that you are improving your game! heres a little tip:
when i wanted to improve my grappling game, i went around and went to a bjj place, a submission wrestling camp, a no-gi bjj dojo, AND an aikido dojo. All in all, i've greatly improved my game, and am a pretty well-rounded grappler. right now, i'm just going to semi-pro tournaments, but as soon as i get better in all aspects of grappling, i'll enter ADCC, and maybe even mma
AznInvazn69Theory 2 years ago
good luck and best wishes man just have fun thats all that matters
mmagamer4life 2 years ago
@thedoc56 I believe Jason "Doomsday" something won while in mission control by strikes as well as Katsamura in Shooto. Vinny Magalaes used it to win a fight on TUF 8 and Dustin Hazelett has used it in multiple fights for submission victories in the UFC... As well as you said BJ Penn
SamCamStudios 1 year ago
@thedoc56 Actually Dustin Hazelett has finished one of his fight with an omaplata which he set up using the rubber guard.
SakoYo 1 year ago
frank mirr is awsome. i like how he breaks down fights when he commentates
imNaaRa 2 years ago
eddies the man!!!!
00pie 2 years ago
10:15 "DUDE YOUR BLEEDING" eddies the shit
lordslayer22 2 years ago
hahahaha.. that was funny, the face on Eddie when he is saying that.. "Dude your bleeding.."
alliancejokerjitsu 2 years ago
i dont care how many matches eddie has won or lost, or who he has or has not beat. simple point is he is an innovator and great coach. if you dont like his system, dont use it, but you better learn how to defend against it.
QAZWSX4122 2 years ago
hey tomwalker389...why dont you look up eddie bravo before you make that comment.....youll find he was the first to beat a gracie in jiu jitsu....or watch his match versus royler gracie then ask what he has won
rustyx2000 2 years ago 4
What titles have Eddie Bravo won again? That's what I thought.
tomwalker389 2 years ago
he may have never won nothing but using logic you can easily see how the rubber guard is a must have in your ground game. should it be used as a cruch? no, using anything as your soul system is not the way to go, using it as a tool, then is when this style shines the most
mmsal 2 years ago
who the fuck cares what he has won... he is changing the face of no gi jiu jitsu and making it more complex, more interesting and more valid in the mma game! so stfu, stop hating the guy is amazing! guys like vinny maghales, sotiropulous both train with him and are showing how eddies 10th planet jiu jitsu can be utilised for mma purposes! so hush
sal1988 2 years ago
he beat royler gracie
xShARpSHoTv2x 2 years ago
Is there a medal or a trophy called "I Beat Royler Gracie"?
That's what I thought.
tomwalker389 2 years ago 4
ur stupid he beat him to win the adcc 2003 tournament
wow i hate internet tough guys, what have u done in your life.
xShARpSHoTv2x 2 years ago
You are indeed retarded, sir. I'll give you $20,000 and my right nut if you can prove that Eddie won ADCC in 2003.
You can start by asking anyone else on this page.
tomwalker389 2 years ago
he did ur an idiot dude. know ur shit. at least do some research before talking shit geez
arthurv321 2 years ago
bravo didnt win adcc any year,he beat royler fair and square with a move royler was unfamilar with and then got destroyed by leo viera and promptly retired in case he got beat again.
billysue2 2 years ago
tkstka is right thedoc56 - you don't seem the have expirience with the rubberguard.
As to your "the UFC is the ultimate proving grounds" argument - I agree! but pay closer attention - it's the ULTIMATE proving ground - it'll take a few more years, but you'll see it there too.
MMA is still evolving, and the rubberguard has'nt been weighed, measured and found wanting like, let's say, taekwondo...
It just did'nt get there, YET.
RonnySayfan 2 years ago
im not really a fan of 10th planet, but eddie is a great teacher, he has this energy and passion that lots of teachers lack
memento18poker 2 years ago
Eddie is a martial arts genius. All of us have reflected and whined on how the guy in your guard can still do a lot if he postures up but Eddie found a response ;)
Utahraptor9 2 years ago
all eddies shit looks cool but the only dude ive seen rock it is aoki.
thedoc56 2 years ago
because most of the moves are illigal in bjj and subwrestling..
For example Twister it's a spine lock and not legal in sub or bjj.
why people dont use rubberguard more is because people arent flexible or dont know anything about rubberguard.
I tap upper belts and bigger guys easily with rubberguard and they usually dont know how to even defend. It has sharpen my overhook game so much and my omoplata and triangle game so much.
tkstka 2 years ago
im talkin mma though. ppl dont use it more cuz it doesnt work as well. i mean i know how joe rogan is all gay for it but name one top level ufc guy who uses it effectivley
thedoc56 2 years ago
what?
"..top level ufc.. " jesus
Ok let me make this clear and make you understand how the level of UFC is.
Most of the ufc fighters are hardcore wrestlers
and strikers who do not grapple for submissions.
What usually happends in UFC is they battle it out someone gets dropped and the other guy goes for GnP. Usually from openguard butterfly to halfguard. Most guys dont even try passing the guard they wait for the round to end or referee to stand them up
Part 1
tkstka 2 years ago
Now most other organisations have much higher grappling compitition then UFC. most Japanese MMA organisations are better and the scoring supports grapplers who try to pass the guard and trying submissions.
There are guys in UFC who have better record on paper but I believe would get tapped by a japanese fighter.
About Rubberguard. Well it's made for MMA and reason why it hasnt been used alot and when it has been it's been easily escaped is simple. Nobody knows how to hold rubberguard.
tkstka 2 years ago
Rubberguard is easy to hold just hug the knee.
Well you might ask "knee?". Yes a knee! most people who try rubberguard have never fucking used in their lives and seen it on youtube then go fighting and wonder why it didnt work and then go bash it and say "it's no good".
Most fighters who use rubberguard have the wrong grip. They use their fingers to hold the leg and palm towards opponents butt, when in reality you should have fist closed and fingers pointing at you.
part 3
tkstka 2 years ago
If done with wrong grip you opponent can easily stand and you lose the grip.
Most people think rubberguard is about the leg going over the neck and that's it. Well it's not!
it's about the damn knee hugging. If you do not hug the knee your opponent will get away. That's why getting gogoplata is risky and you might end up losing it.
But there are other options like Omoplata.
I use 70% of the time it and it works great.
I always get a sweep and sometimes a submission.
part 4
tkstka 2 years ago
I do think Eddie explanes it very well in this vid. You should watch it.
If you hug the knee your opponent cant hit you and he cant do anything offensive.
it's just that simple but you might not know because you never done it.
People who dont do the zombie and have the wrong grip or dont hug the knee will fuck it up.
If you do those 3 you will succeed!
There are so many Rubberguard vids on youtube and other vid sites that explane it well.
Rubberguard works and it's a fact.
tkstka 2 years ago
its called mixed martial arts. if the Xcore wrestlers r goin for Gnp then good for them but the point of mma is to win and rubber guard hasnt been shown to be effective in the highest level of fighting competition.which is the UFC. i agree that the scoring isnt favorable for graplers but put demian maia in there with any japo fighter and he wud submit them. u dont think thats a little strange that theres no top level rubber guard guy in the ufc? why arent rubber guard grapplers winning abudabi?
thedoc56 2 years ago
that's because the highest level of mma dont know rubberguard if you do not count Aoki and bj.
Thou bj never gets the hand on the mat and hug the knee and there for fails.
yes I know what MMA means, you do not need to tell me.
Yes Maia is higher ranked then any japanese and bigger them most japanese grapplers.
The normal hight of japanese men is 155-165 cm. It's very rare to see a tall japanese.
There for they do not have enough top level fighters at that weighlevel to keep it competitive.
tkstka 2 years ago
Well ask yourself a question what is better way to control closed guard, wrist control or overunder or maybe rubberguard?
Wrist control sucks. Opponent will easily get his hands free and punch.
Well tight over/under? Still sucks he will eventually get his hands free and lay down punches.
With rubberguard you will not get hit and even if he does it's forced triangle. If he just stalls and doesnt do anything you can try gogo's or force the Omoplata.
BTW you can force the omo anytime you like
tkstka 2 years ago
About Abudabhi.
The brazilians are so highlevel grapplers that it's not even funny. I belong to Alliance and talk to the blackbelts there at Fabios gym. Michael Langi told me he trains 8 hours a day.
when most who train 10th planet are amateurs who train just 2 hours max a day and 3 to 4 times a week.
When I heard the Michael Langis day rutine it was I coulnt believe it. They do it with pure proffession and take it seriously.
tkstka 2 years ago
So you are asking stupid questions: "why doesnt amateurs win proffessionals?"
you do understand how dumb you sound?
No offence but rubberguard is the best way to block the punches and it's always a free omoplata but we know succeed rate of Omoplata is low so you dont get it always but at least you did a sweep and got in sidecontrol.
Anymore questions?
tkstka 2 years ago
well then ur telling me rubberguard is amatuer. that no one trains rubberguard enough to win with it? that its not in the ufc because no one "really" knows how to use it. sry but that smells like bullshit. look at the best of the best. is rubberguard there? no.
thedoc56 2 years ago
Yes someone did Rubberguard in 97-99 ufc and broke opponents arm. Dont remember the fighters name but it's very rare to see someone actually knowing rubberguard. I've seen people try rubberguard but fail miserably for stated reasons.
But yes most fighters in "ufc" dont know rubberguard or twister. I dont even think twister is legal in UFC because it's spine lock.
put a year ago some japanese did twister in zst organisation.
tkstka 2 years ago
and no rubberguard is not "amatuer" and it's not "proffessional". It's a position just like any other.
Most faggots are hating because it's not "brazilian" and for some reason hate Eddie.
Always talking about how eddie didnt invent anything. YES HE DID! He is the reason why rubberguard has come so much. He is the reason why twister was invented and made a working move in real grappling and not show wrestling. He had to make adjustions to twister to get it work.
tkstka 2 years ago 2
btw... if you do not believe me that mma fighters dont know about rubberguard.
Then what about this vid? That's Mir and he is totally noobie on the rubberguard.
anyone who has spend time on the guard can see it and no wonder is he uses it he will fuck it up.
I'm telling it to you right now.
tkstka 2 years ago
lol most people at 10th planet jujitsu trains 3-4 x a week for 2 hours and smoke pot and eat munchies the rest of the day
jchavista89 2 years ago 2
BJ Penn, Nate Diaz, Nick Diaz. And Eddie is constantly training UFC fighters on the Rubber Guard.
alliancejokerjitsu 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
the diaz bros are cesar gracie students. no rubber guard there. and bj penn doesnt not use that rubber crap to win fights. rubber guard doesnt win fights. gracie jiujiutsu does.
thedoc56 2 years ago
yea, you need to do some more research on there fights, the Diaz's use rubberguard, im in Alliance and we even practice some rubberguard. And Bj Penn does use rubberguard too.
Do some research before you talk shit.
alliancejokerjitsu 2 years ago
BJ and the Diaz's use rubber guard, dude. I'm in Gracie Barra and we also practice rubber guard. Helps alot to set up submissions.
nizepart0519 2 years ago 23
nah man not even. hav u seen it be effective in the ufc? to win fights? nope and nope.
thedoc56 2 years ago
@thedoc56 lol stop being so narrow minded wont learn shit in that mind set, dustin hazelett used rubber guard against tamdan mccory in ufc . rubber guard is very effective it just takes time to develop just like anything u do , fank mir just doesnt know the basics and makes himself look stupid in this vid. and you have to be very flexible to do rubber guard ,time and stretching will get you there . it took me 7 months of constant stretching to get me where i needed to be in the rubber guard
oneidadopeboi421 2 years ago
ohhh thanks! thats why adcc champs use it? thats why gsp and anderson silva and fedor use it? oh no wait none of them do. bottom line. gjj is more effective. dont kid urself
thedoc56 2 years ago
dude, a lot of gjj's offensive techniques are rendered useless in a no-gi situation. trust me, 10thPJJ is still bjj, but is more efficient in a SPORT scenario. in a self-defense scenario, gjj is the way to go, but you'll later see that 10thpjj will dominate. so just sit back, learn, and judge AFTER you learn some 10th planet
AznInvazn69Theory 2 years ago
lol im not not trying to convince you but w.e , its the new generation of fighters that will use this tool in my opinion
oneidadopeboi421 2 years ago 3
and if they do then thats awsome. im a big fan of aoki. but for the past 60 years and currently. gjj still dominates
thedoc56 2 years ago
@thedoc56 are you refering to gracie jiu jitsu (gjj)
oneidadopeboi421 2 years ago
yes, he does
aeagle1218 2 years ago
it dominates because it is more known, unlike 10thplanet and mma in general. but once it goes mainstream...man will it spread fast. don't think of it as a new martial art, but a small branch from the bjj tree
AznInvazn69Theory 2 years ago
gracie jiu jitsu is already proved time and time again to be the most dominate martial art ever invented, thanks the gm helio, do u train gjj? ill be in lagrange starting mid february
aeagle1218 2 years ago
@nizepart0519 Damn i'm at a Renzo academy, we don't learn it. My instructos won't teach, what they dont' practice. I'd like to learn it though, and become flexible.
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lovelovelove833 11 months ago
@nizepart0519 bjs rubber guards pretty bad he doesnt squeeze
DBKK 10 months ago
I love bravo's energy
Murphy4709 2 years ago
omoplata is too easy to escape in mma thats why u never see them
yankeefan369 2 years ago
Eddie Bravo's system is very effective if your opponent isn't challenging. Otherwise, you have more things to worry about then trying something "new" on the mats. Eddie Bravo is a black belt and flexible beyond all means. I haven't heard anything or seen anything groundbreaking from 10th Planet since... ever.
Eddie Bravo's the man though.
seaFoodSifu 2 years ago
dang i never new how tall frank mir was lol
hitmanZdog3000 2 years ago
when in mission control the leg tht is on the other guys hip wht do u do with it?
MESSI490 2 years ago
omg with eddie the god helping frank he's gonna crush lesnar, first he'll break his arm, then his leg, then he'll choke him out.
oh wait mir tried to submit brocks fist with his face and turned into pumpkin head from the swelling.
thanks eddie you're the greatest
johnlix 2 years ago
LOL I wish they would realize the rubber guard/half guard tactics are easy to neutralize when it's brock lesnar strength you're facing.
Vash1202 2 years ago
10th planet is gonna overrun traditional bjj. its so much more effective. rubber guard owns all.
zmanbstyle 2 years ago
yeah that's why 10th planet guys keep winning adcc.... no, wait?
mmfire 2 years ago 8
@mmfire THAT WHY THEY DON'T LET U DO 10 TH PLANET MOVES IN ADCC NO THIS NO THAT AND THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THEN THE RUBBER GUARD JUST WATCH U WILL SEE RICCOSANTANA FROM 10 PLANET RIVERSIDE
riccosantana9 1 year ago
@riccosantana9 what 10th planet techniques do you speak of that arent allowed in ADCC?
lucubration808 1 year ago
@lucubration808 The only techniques I know of are the crotch ripper and the twister that arent allowed in ADCC
SamCamStudios 1 year ago
Lol @ " Dude youre bleeding "
XxDiddyDidItxX 2 years ago
good way to end off the video :P
sexygeek101 2 years ago
i can already picture brock tapping out to the triangle hold.lol.
sports23432009 2 years ago 2
Brock is done
SharpShocks 2 years ago
bravo is the king
pete2230 2 years ago 2
haha dude Jared, 3:20 ish "you could always switch to that leglock that you like..." haha this is great...
DudeMarko 2 years ago
If frank planing to use the rubber guard on Brock lesnar, Chris may need longer legs.
HydroTech420 2 years ago
how come when i do rubber guard transition in UFC 2009 i am never given the option to do that arm submission
blink180heights 2 years ago
from rubberguard in UFC undisputed you can take mount or the back.
makk333 2 years ago
I think what he meant was that there is no oma plata in the game.. at least i've never seen it. Which i find kinda strange too..
23runner4 2 years ago
Because UFC doesn't include every submission in the game..there would be thousands.
InhumaneClient 2 years ago
this is why frank mir will dominate even more in his career... b/c hes training with eddie! he's gonna do what other fighters are too lazy to learn... i know he'll beat lesner again. and im a lesner fan!
wyldeslash2003 2 years ago
naw, lesner was pounding on him but was unprepared and got fuckup now he gunna do the samthing but be ready for submissions, hes just to big, i hate lesner hes so cocky and shit, we need fedor
rockyraccoon009 2 years ago 2
Lesner is a very good fighter... naturally... everyone claims he's overated just because he spent some time in fake wrestling.. but if you look at his amature wrestling and shit... everyone would be flipping out... most of the buligerant bullshitters that dont have a clue what they're talking about claim brock has no technique... hes naturally a beast... lol
strengthgf 2 years ago
sounds like you got that straight out of the commentary from ufc unleashed
rockyraccoon009 2 years ago
"....unhooking that hook in a half a second, Dood your bleeding....."
aabbccxxyyandzz 2 years ago
Eddie Bravo...the legend continues!!!
lutjanus123 2 years ago
Eddie is so stoked to be showing his system to mir, hes going 100 miles an hour.
ki11erdi11er 2 years ago
RightWing,
those guys are all masters and are great, but didn't Eddie beat Royler Gracie using primarily rubber guard? Eddie didn't just suprise him, that wasn't a quick submission/type match, and Eddie extensively used the RG in it.
Basics are great, but this stuff is evolving the ground game.
jsltm888 2 years ago
Eddie Bravo,
"Dude, your bleedin..."
LMAO
10:14
Darkenveloped 2 years ago
LMAO...funny guy!
gwh21375 2 years ago
awesome vid man
p222688 2 years ago
Mir's like fuck this i'm too big to be flexing myself into a pretzel.
SteelCity1981 2 years ago 2
yea this guy got good moves but Hes Not 100% sure of what hes doing If u watch full video u'll know what i mean
xxzipitxx 2 years ago
Eddie? or Frank isn't too sure what he's doing here? Eddie beat Royler Gracie with this stuff dude!
gwh21375 2 years ago
Eddie beat Royler on a fluke. Let's be real. Royler had Eddie on points the whole way and got a bad beat. It happens. I tapped a purple belt the other day with a toe hold, I'm a 4 stripe white belt. Am I just AWESOME? No, I got lucky, it was there.
RightWingCon81 2 years ago
I don't agree it was a fluke. Here's why: He was attempting a triangle choke frome a position he set up called the pyramid. This is a well documented position in the 10th planet system. this proves my point that a guy who practices traditional gi bjj has inadequacies just like the 10th planet and all systems do. Tha's why it's so fun you never know who will win. Like chess!
gwh21375 2 years ago