Hmmm...I would have given you first place if I had been the judge! The horse that won was fighting the rider when it was time to canter (sorry, lope in the western world!). Your horse was the most beautiful one in the class, and also the most well-behaved and trained, I believe. :)
Well thankyou so much! I remember that day- it was my 3rd time ever showing so I was a little nervous! But if you watch again- the gal who won 1st waited for me to go by her, then asked her horse to canter- as the first time her horse would not canter when cued. My husband trained Cervantes and he did do a nice job keeping him light. If I were a better rider it may have looked better but I tried! Check out "Sailing Friesian Style" video- same horse- GREAT rider who was 16 years old- bareback!
This is not western pleasure...I don't care what breed you are, when you look out of control and have to keep a tight rein, it's not western pleasure....
I also wanted to add that these horses are beautiful. I love to see different breed standards for the same discipline. From arabian to stockhorse to friesian, western pleasure takes on many different shapes. :)
From the comments about stockhorse western pleasure here, people seem to think they are too slow and carry their heads too low compared to these friesians. I must ask these people, have you ever trained a good stockhorse western pleasure horse? Because I have trained many champion western pleasure horses, and I have never once forced a horse to put his head into a position that was unnatural for his conformation. In addition, all of my horses enjoy going slow. Stock horses are bred for this.
haha, i just find this so funny-these horses are amazingly beautiful, but western, really, thry should stick to english, leave western to the quarter horses, appys and paints, still it is amazing that they do hav a western class i will give them that
u know most of u guys r dissing AQHA way of western pleasure and r saying tht u dont we just have a diferent way of riding and quite franquly we think this way of riding is horrible looking and u say the same to us its best to keep the thought to our selfs because its just opions and its just going to turn out to be one way does it so unnaturaly and the others just need to get control and i have to agree.SO GET CONTROL or u will just put harm in others way!
Look at my 3rd video, uploaded tonight. My horse can't lope to save his life, he's not built quite right and I didn't train him, but we are working on getting it more natural. His jog is PERFECT. No wogging or troping going on there. And his head? Mostly level with his withers, if just a bit below. I don't put it there, he keeps it there. He LOVES english, loves to jump, loves to run. He's a happy horse.
And I am showing in Quarter Horse shows now. Friesians and Arabians have their jobs, and QHs have theirs. I work cows with my pleasure horse; he enjoys it. My Arabian is a joy to show in halter and dressage, and is the greatest trail horse ever. I have respect for ALL disciplines, as I ride (or have tried) most of them. Winning WP horses don't have crippled gaits or their heads in the dirt. EDUCATE YOURSELF PEOPLE. I think this class is great, for the breed. Stop comparing QHs and other breeds!
@hanoverianjumpers101 yes thank you some one who finaly agrees i show AQHA western pleasure and slow stuff like tht and i am tierd of every 1 dissing it and its greaat tht u tried every thing cause i want to so bad! :)
While I adore Friesians and Arabs (I have an Arab, and I looked into getting a Friesian last week), I don't think that either breed is uniquely built for WP like a quarter horse is. And I see everyone saying "Oh their heads are in the dirt and they have crippled gaits.".. Just don't. It's not cool to bash other disciplines just because you don't agree with it. I used to hate any judged events other than halter until I started riding it. Now I've sold my barrel horse, gotten a pleasure horse...
@hanoverianjumpers101 u freakin rock!!!!! i have been trying to say this but hasnt came out in those words i have a QH and show western and they just fit the diciplin
wow this is so cool! Looks really beautiful. Friends of us also own a western friesian, they do Spins with him and he is realllly good! This video is great to watch! :)
(cont) I hate when people rag on the pleasure horses when they really dont know much about them. Most videos people watch on wp are the back-yard yahoo riders that think you can just throw western tack on a horse and......VIOLA! You've got a pleasure horse. Sorry guys but its not that easy. If you watch a true wp horse they really are a pleasure to ride! I wish people would take the chance to watch a real wp horse.....EVERYONE who doesnt believe me, go look up the qh mare Vital Signs Are Good :)
I dont know what western pleasure horses everybody has been watching but they must not have been very good ones lol. I will agree that some western pleasure horses do have funky, crippled-looking gaits but those are not TRUE western pleasure horses.......You can look up western pleasure classes from qh congress or paint/quarter world and the winning do not move that way at all!!! You dont want their head down by their knees.....you want them to carry it level from their withers.
well who new well i think that they dont look that well as what western pleasure has evolved to i mean people say our horses are peanut rollers beacause they hang there heads down low but its beautiful i love it i can find about 3/4s of western utube personal will probably think the same thing everyone is entitled to there opinion but i personally think this was a bunch of freisains loping troting and walking around a arena in western tack
low and slow doesnt look natural... western pleasure should be the horse at his natural look moving nice and easy.... low head with a cripple looking gait isnt nice looking or comfy to ride.. how is that pleasureable??
Its funny I'm a QH WP rider, not all horses look 'sad' when they work. Actually my pleasure horse loves to go slow, he'd rather go slow than go fast. \
i know when you get older you will be come worlds champion just need to work much more longer and harder just believe in your self and your horse. WTG!
ha, i didn't know Fresian's could do Western pleasure! Pleasant suprise though, becouse I think it's a beautiful breed. I ride QH's and arabs, so, you know, I don't see a lot of Fresians at shows :)
I believe that WP horses should look a little more happier like these friesians did. I can't stand the whole head in the dirt thing or the look imma limp to do a trott those poor horses it looks sad to me... These friesians look happy Doing this and I believe all WP horses shud look like that. That's jus my opinion
@swNapoleon16 haha, okay. if horses aren't happy , it is the OWNERS fault for not pleasing them. i've been riding & have shown in WP and most horses i've seen aren't quite content. i dont know what your riding, and most WP horses can pull off a lope .
^^^ those fresians aren't what it is called, " loping " their doing a regular cantar. look up the difference !
@danimals0921 were in my sentence did it say anything about a lope?? hmmm i didnt see anything did u look?
and i know the difference btween the 2 thank you very much. i have worked w/ western pleasure girls, rode in gaited classes, and western races. i know the difference btween NUMEROUS gaits
and stop arguing with others opinions its what they think so leave 'em alone! im sure theirs disciplines you dont like but im not going to sit here and argue with you and say your opinion is wrong!
@danimals0921 thats rude and its ugly.... if you hate walking horses good for you i could care less its your opinion and i dont care.
my opinion on WP is they dont look happy and i think the gaits are ugly and stupid, and the horses posture doesnt LOOK HAPPY..
low set heads like that dont LOOK happy to me.. wether the horse is happy or not idk but thats what it LOOKS like to me and thats MY THOUGHTS. AND MY OPINIONS
@swNapoleon16 I am not trying to be mean (Despite being horrificly offended) but I train/ride western pleasure and unlike english, all of my horses are ridden on a very loose reign, and if you actually knew how to ride a western pleasure horse, you would know that the key to getting them to go slow is getting them to relax, unlike saddleseat. Don't judge people with your misinformation- This was offensive, cruel, and unnecesary.
@MysweetAnnabelle53 can you please explain to me how i was being cruel and offensive??
the unneccesary was the person who had to be rude and ugly back to my opinion... i should not have to defend my self on simply stating i think the horse looks unhappy... are you going to critizice that person for their opinion too?? because if your going to do this to me you should do it to them..
and i believe in MY OPINION that WP horses dont look happy... i stopped riding WP because i got tierd of the
@swNapoleon16 Calm down a little...True, lot of trainers I have seen doing WP are very cruel and make the horses move awkwardly. I don't train that way, and I only make the horses move slow enough to be relaxed, but not crippled. Depending on who you rode with, and such, you may have had different experiences than me, therefor your opinions are different. I think it is a bit irrational to cut out all WP horses and trainers, but if that's how you feel, I am not trying to change your opinion.
@swNapoleon16 (cont.) Also, I was just trying to "diversify" my argument with the whole, "Saddleseat" thing- and I have to say I have seen the bad, and good sides of the riding style. Both WP and SS have ups and downs. I love walking horses, and have met some incredible ones. I don't really think it's funny, but again, that's your opinion, and I never meant to pick a fight. I just am sick of ill-informed people judging my style of riding (I'll bet you can relate) and get a little trigger happy.
@MysweetAnnabelle53 incredibly slow moving artificial gaits.. when i saw people training there horses to do this i didnt like it.. and my horses are ridden on a lose reign as well... i show walking horses but i never pull on her reins... and were did saddle seat come in?? i dont do that im a walking horse light shod... completly different discipline lol and i wasnt judging anybody at any time thats what i think is funny about this... i was being attacked with my opinion on WP
i honestly think that friesians aren't western pleasure horses, or arabs, they just seem more spirited, i love QH's, but i think they are more suit for it, but that's just my opinion
Y would you waste the Majestic Friesian's talents on WP? Of course they perform like marvels in WP, how hard is it to walk/run (not a Discipline-all horses have this ability)? They R wonderful movers, in Dressage, which requires Far More Skill than WP. While often used as Carriage horses, their true talents were carrying heavily armored knights into battle throughout ancient history. W. horses R mainly Q. horses w/compact bodies 4 tight turns & short stops...4 cutting cows...
Think what everyone pleases but personally I would never find a headset like this on a qh or paint attractive in anyway. Looks to high up for a stock type horse, on and by the way our horses are just as collected if not more than the ones in the video. Different styles people, learn your facts.
Luvd this video! I wish more footage was captured of the other 2 horses tho. Who knew Fresians could perform like such marvels in wp? Wonderful movers! Even though footage was limited, I chose the winner correctly, but I put the predominately filmed one on the bottom as it broke gait in the 2nd direction at the lope. Ah well, it probably stayed more correctly on the vertical than the true #3. It's good to see the criteria is consistent, but I'd agree that too low head carriages are detrimental
The winner wouldn't canter unless someone cantered right in front of her- watch again and you'll barely see her wait for number 2 to go past first. I was happy with 2nd place for my 2nd time ever showing personally- and it was on a 5 year old stallion. He's quite a good little horse now. I'll put a video link to the same horse the following summer with a much better rider.
What is really sad is that winning Western Pleasure Quarter Horses, Paints and Appaloosas all used to carry their heads as high as these Friesans do and used to walk and lope as freely too. Somehow a terrible fad got started for them to hang their heads low and go really really slow and it just has not died....
@LeeAnne151 I was just saying something similar in the comments of an Arabian western pleasure video. Somehow the book definition of and what actually gets scored well are two different things. What the judges score well has no basis in the reality of how a horse should move. You're right, it's a horrible fad. These Friesians here are doing more or less well enough moving in a way natural to them. Good for them! :)
@LeeAnne151 I agree - I stopped doing WP years ago, if there heads hung any lower they would stumble over themselves. They are not collected like these horses are - just forced down with martingales. The point of having the head on the vertical is that if they do that their hindquarters are engaged. If you watch the WP videos they are not on the vertical - just carrying there head at there knees.
the thing is that now, the way western pleasure horses move is not unnatural. theyre bread that way...my little mare couldnt lope fast if she wanted to. this freisians look rediculous...there is no such thing as a western pleasure freisian.
@LeeAnne151 ik, its the worst thing to see nowadays, this class performed beautifully. the stupid slow movements now dont even make sense, you cant do anything with those gaits!!! grrr! its not like you can go move cattle at that slow pace, it will take you years!!
@allegroequine14 i completely agree! i have an arab who's built like a western horse but i show english cause she's too old for working cows or reining and there's now way to make her go that slow for WP... but she can canter on a loose rein and stay collected and i believe thats all WP should be about =( see any cowboy's horses loping like they're crippled? i don't!
@LeeAnne151 im glad someone else sees it, everyone is all over twh's when there are other breeds that are abused too! quarter horses often have the nerve in their tails clipped so they wont swish them, thats really sad because when the horse is in the pasture it cant swish its tail
Nerve blocking should be illegal. Sadly it is done at the highest level of competition. The reiners at the World Equestrian Games were clearly nerve blocked. It is disgusting.
@LeeAnne151 u know people like u need to shut up and get over yourself we dont hert horses they r born in captivity we arent going to turn them to the wild nor be a pasture horses cause tht isnt safe at all for the horse so i bet u arent a horse rider so i sugjest to keep you mouth shut and your opinions to yourself
You lose that bet. I've been riding since before you were born considering how you talk. I own a foundation bred AQHA registered horse. I was showing WP in the 70's when they moved more naturally, I've seen the fad of extreme low heads and crippled movement come and now the AQHA is desperately trying to stop it but their judges still place four beating jalking horses with their polls below their whithers and their tails nerve blocked. Now the reiners are being nerved as well.
You know, i think friesians are beautiful and all, but they arent even that great at dressage. Flashy yes, but they get strung out really easily. they are carriage horses (breed for it) and it think they just look a bit goofy outside of movies, carriages, or even dressage... nothing against western, but its sort of like buying a Shetland and wanting to show it saddleseat or showjumping or something... just not really practical... I mean you might find some good at it, but still...
They ARE not bred solely as carriage horses. Get your facts straight. Friesians' talents trace back through ancient history where they were used in battle. Later they were used as work & carriage horses but also have a Natural Talent 4 dressage. W. horses Do Not. They R a cross breed developed by crossing imported English thoroughbreds w/assorted "native" horses, various breeds developed by Native Americans w/horses descended from Spain...con't.
I like the video actually I enjoyed it,but the person below me who says Friesians should only do dressage you sound kinda stupid sorry but you do.They are actually carriage horses thats what they were bred to do.But I personaly think any horse can do any discipline with good training.
A friend of mine owned a New Forest gelding who kicked the booty of a number of VERY high and mighty Qh and paints in a number of Western STYLE events. I've seen trotters and semi heavy horses perform better then most stockbreeds in the show they attended. It depends on the person who train them.
I know what makes a good team - a good rider and a good horse regardless of their origins. These Fresian horses look like a real delight to ride, they do it their way, nuff said.
I dont diss western itself , I ride western I ride english, I did how ever diss how the horses head and gaits are un natural in the pleasure classes it's not normal for a horse, Im really sad when they ride in a jog over a jump too , it looks so unnatural. I think this fresian video is great, it shows how nice a horse can move collected and on a lose rein with out having there head below their knees or a funny gait.
I have to strongly disagree with you regarding how it is un natural the way wp horses move, for some it is, but for a true QH WP horse it IS natural. My horse would much rather go slow and lope with his head down than canter around... it has been bred into the bred to make it easier for they to move that way. When i lounge my horse he will lope all day but will not gallop or canter around because that is what is not natural to him.
@boskox not to be dis respectful but i show novice pleasure and i have a quarter horse and we ride with a lose rain and its head is down and collected all we do is slow its canter down and make shore they rare using them self this is NOT unnatural and we dont have are heads 'below their knees' simply level or a little lower ... this friesian pleasure just looks horible... also the 'funny gait' is thus you see from and inexperiensed rider
I think this is a cool video. I also think that the western jog and lope and head set is NOT natural for a horse and looks ridiculas, and can cause problems later. I think this fresian western pleasure class is nice and allows the horse to be natural in their gates. Not to mention these are fresians, big beautiful horses, with a bigger stride to them so it would be really hard for them to have an un natural head set and lope and gait like they put on horses for the pleasure class.
It does not look ridiculas & it does not cause problems later. WP is a relaxed, easy 2 ride horse who moves slow & clean. Most of the time itz their natural gaits so think b4 you speak. I have nothing against english riders but dressage looks lik it can cause problems so can jumping so chill out & let people do what they want. Personally I ride western but I lik englidh aswell...Its just diffrent styles of riding.
It dosen't really matter if Im teenager or not 2 tell u the truth I got a little offended by your comment b/c western personally is what I ride & enjoy doing it. So you can think & have your own thoughts but every1 has there own opion i guess. Just don't diss western b/c its really not ridiculas.
i have shown my own horses, but never any this beautiful! this is just my opinion but i have NEVER seen a Freisian doing a pleasure class, Ive always thot of them as sporty dressage horses. But u and the horse were AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my goodness, wonderful job displaying how ignorant people are on what Western Pleasure is about.
Western Pleasure is about having a consistent, cadenced, flat kneed, and relaxed horse. The ideal Western Pleasure horse should be shown on a loose rein while executing walk, jog, and lope transitions. The horse should have a soft expression and give a smooth and easy to ride appearance.
Geez, and I don't even show stock or pleasure type Western Pleasure.
Hey douchebag, each breed sets it own standards for its show classes. If the Oddsbegottensich Horse Association wanted its WP horses to canter backwads they can do it. At least they don't look like recently-exhumed zombies like the western breed WP horses always do.
Yay! Friesians doing Western Pleasure, now no one can make me learn hunt seat!! Haha. BTW guys, any breed of horse can pretty much do western as long as they can shorten and lengthen their strides, Friesians just look dang awsome in whatever they do anyway :p
Friesians are bred for flashy gaits are they not? Why show a horse bred for knee action in a class judged on a lack of knee action. I wouldn't try and show a Quarter Horse in a Park Class, why? Because that class is an oxymoron to the breed.
if a horse is show as what breed it is it can be show in anything but don't try to make a horse move like a different breed these horses did great they moved like big horses not like QH or paints they worked like friesians and they did amazing.
Agreed. I went to equine affaire over the weekend and saw a friesian stud that would have kicked the shit out of most QH's in a WP class. Any horse can compete in anything if they get the right training and are riden by someone who knows what they're doing.
whatever, haters! I am SO sick of people saying QHs and Paints are the BE ALL of WP!! Get a life! ANY horse should be able to do well in ANY discipline, if the trainer knows what the hell they're doing. The Freisians look great!
LOL. I'm sorry, I'm trying to not be a "hater", but I doubt whatever I say will be taken seriously. A Freisian competing in Western Pleasure is an oxymoron! Freisian's are designed to exhibit knee action, where as WP is looking for a flat kneed jog. Hence why there are only THREE competing in a National level class.
I don't care if they are competing in a Western Class, just call it something other than Western Pleasure. Please, you guys are just asking to be ridiculed.
At least these people are not afraid to go out and try something different. Unlike you whose going on the beaten trail not starting one of your own. Your the one whose going to be ridiculed when Friesians are more oftenly used for western pleasure.
I've been told assumptions make an ass of the person that made them. I'm beginning to believe it. You don't know me, you don't know the horses I own or ride and the disciplines I show. Who are you to say I'm on a beaten trail?
And what about quarter horses in hunter pleasure classes? They weren't bred to do that originally. Arabians were not bred to trot like a Saddle Bred. But they do it because its a new division they can compete in and create a more versatile breed of horse.
@obscuredmelody So qh's jumping and doing hunter pleasure is an oxymoron too, right? They weren't "bred" for it. Though I've seen stock horses jumping as well as english breeds. Hmm.
I grant that you have a point to a certain degree. But Quarter Horses can still jump and carry out the point of the class. Whereas the entire build of a Friesian counter acts the ideal of a Western pleasure horse. It would be like showing a QH in a park class.
To all the people saying that friesians shouldnt be doing western pleasure, get a life!!! QH's aren't the only horses that can do western. That's like me saying that QH's shouldn't do english.... BS!!
Great job friesians look good at a lot of things. depends who's riding.
It's not a waste of talent. If I had a horse like that and I entered western pleasure classes. I'd use a friesian or any breed. Great control. I like your loose rein I love seeing that. Loose rein equals happy horse!
Oh, this is cool. I might not enter somthing like this, it proves that the beautiful Fresian can do almost everything. Just like a Quarter Horse can do jumping or Dressage. ;P
Very interesting video! I honestly did not know that Friesians had western classes too. As for everyone that says this is how WP "should be", I think you need to crack open some rulebooks. Different breeds do things in different ways, if everything should be the same across the board then what is the point in even having different breeds of horses? Horses move the way their conformation dictates - form to function, people!
this is the way wp should be. the horses have a head set that is comfortable for them and they have actual gaits. wp should be about the horse being comfortable as well.
Lovely! So refreshing to see some comfortable horses and competent riders in western pleasure. Its gotten so weird lately, its really great to see that some people still value horses for what they are, not what they can be forced to become. 5 stars! But you disabled ratings. Oh well.
western pleasure isnt forcing horses, its what oaints and qarter horses are bred to do. every breed is bred for different things, freshians are just not as great at pleasure
It's nice to see a real walk,trot and cantor,also horses that move at a more natural way,to me this is the real western plasure,at least the horses don't look all depressed.
they really don't belong in a western saddle...they don't move like the western pleasure horses with there heads nice down relaxed small steps these ones...are just dressage horses period
Just cause they're not a breed made for western doesn't mean it bothers them. Those are strong horses! They carried frikkin' knights! Haha, it DOES look funny though XD
Beautiful horses...i think it would be cool to see a Fresian do Reining. Id like to have a horse like that but I dont think it would cross well on our Quarter horses! LOL. that was interesting though.I lOVE CUTTING AND REINING! :) (this was waaay more fun to watch than regular western pleasure even though W pleasure horses are pretty...they really arent 'fun' to watch)
Oh dear. I know "Friesians are athletic" and all, but they are not designed for Reining. I've taken classes on how to judge Reining and I've NEVER seen any breed besides Stock types excel in Reining in the NRHA.
Wow. I show American Quarter Horses and I'm used to watching a slow stride and a low head! haha! This is so different, though. It's so cool to watch. =) I've never ever seen a breed other than an AQH do any type of western event.
What a bitchy comment. It's just RUDE to call someone's horse gross. You are obviously very ignorant too, lathargic peanut pushers my butt. Come watch my 2 pleasure horses someday, and then you'll change your mind!
Ahhhhhhhhh, breed prejudice, it's everywhere. Friesians can do it all guys. I also think what you see in the WP classes elsewhere is ugly, heads down to the ground and barely movingoff the ground. That's REAL comfortable for a horse and so natural. Give me a break.
i think its gorss to see friesians in western :/ they look better in english. atleast [[THANK GOD]] they actually move...not lope and drag their legs and sniff the ground.
look at my user name. i hate it when pepol say friesians cant do western this proves they can thx 4 makeing this vid :] someday just 2 prove pepol wrong i want 2 barrel race a friesian WHY NOT
im with you i dont think any breed of horse is designated to a specific objective(sorry for the big words. just for shyts and giggles we(me and few friends) took a clysdale whos pulled for the first 10 yrs of its life and re-trained him for cuting/ranchwork. last i heard he works on a ranch in texas.
I personally think Friesians are only good for classical riding(dressage) because they are pretty much naturally collected in everything,and or just pleasure riding. there's is know difference between english and western, english you just have to have greater balance and correct instruction, western it has a horn so you don't have to have the greater balance still instruction though.
I have to agree. I discounted most of the QH breed because its like riding a huge tank on VW tires. Some are really beautiful and do their job but it seems to me they aren't so much about ranch work any more. Yay for seeing Friesians in classes other than english.
Although I don't go for WP, if I were to ride this style, this is how it should be done! Not like the QH crowd. I've read to much about the dope, the cutting of tendons in the ears and tails, and so one that that crowd does to have a calm looking horse.
I have to wonder where you get your information. QH people DO NOT cut tendons in the ears or tail. Some people inject the tail to cause it to move less but that is illegal according to the rules. The shows all have mandatory random drug testing too to prevent drug use. There are bad people in all equine disciplines. QH's set the standard for Western Please. I LOVE Friesians but they don't look comfortable to ride for hours on end - a good QH is.
I have to agree. QH pleasrue horses are meant to be ridden along fencelines for long hours. I don't agree with the peanut roller frames seen in the rings though.
I can't see the Friesian being comfortable for that. That
Hmmm...I would have given you first place if I had been the judge! The horse that won was fighting the rider when it was time to canter (sorry, lope in the western world!). Your horse was the most beautiful one in the class, and also the most well-behaved and trained, I believe. :)
HarmonicNature 3 months ago
Well thankyou so much! I remember that day- it was my 3rd time ever showing so I was a little nervous! But if you watch again- the gal who won 1st waited for me to go by her, then asked her horse to canter- as the first time her horse would not canter when cued. My husband trained Cervantes and he did do a nice job keeping him light. If I were a better rider it may have looked better but I tried! Check out "Sailing Friesian Style" video- same horse- GREAT rider who was 16 years old- bareback!
CallyMatherly 3 months ago
The horse is magnicient
sophiecheval 3 months ago
i like it :)
XXXxQueenyxXXX 3 months ago
Oh and what? Tails that move?! Awesome!
ExpectingStorms 3 months ago
WOW! A WP class that the horses actually look like a pleasure to ride! Very easy to watch!! **LOVE**
ExpectingStorms 3 months ago
This is not western pleasure...I don't care what breed you are, when you look out of control and have to keep a tight rein, it's not western pleasure....
AQHAluverr 4 months ago
@AQHAluverr exactly, WP is supposed to be on a loose rein and its supposed to be quiet.
horsesLcool 4 months ago
I also wanted to add that these horses are beautiful. I love to see different breed standards for the same discipline. From arabian to stockhorse to friesian, western pleasure takes on many different shapes. :)
CowgirlUp303 5 months ago
From the comments about stockhorse western pleasure here, people seem to think they are too slow and carry their heads too low compared to these friesians. I must ask these people, have you ever trained a good stockhorse western pleasure horse? Because I have trained many champion western pleasure horses, and I have never once forced a horse to put his head into a position that was unnatural for his conformation. In addition, all of my horses enjoy going slow. Stock horses are bred for this.
CowgirlUp303 5 months ago
Nice job! Beautiful horse!'
YLLUT1205 8 months ago
beautiful horse! i love fresians i have always wanted one!
horseriderponylover 8 months ago
haha, i just find this so funny-these horses are amazingly beautiful, but western, really, thry should stick to english, leave western to the quarter horses, appys and paints, still it is amazing that they do hav a western class i will give them that
westernpleasuresarah 9 months ago
u know most of u guys r dissing AQHA way of western pleasure and r saying tht u dont we just have a diferent way of riding and quite franquly we think this way of riding is horrible looking and u say the same to us its best to keep the thought to our selfs because its just opions and its just going to turn out to be one way does it so unnaturaly and the others just need to get control and i have to agree.SO GET CONTROL or u will just put harm in others way!
purple11thug 9 months ago
what a difference between the AQHA... all of AQHA WP horses look lame.
califred17 9 months ago
Look at my 3rd video, uploaded tonight. My horse can't lope to save his life, he's not built quite right and I didn't train him, but we are working on getting it more natural. His jog is PERFECT. No wogging or troping going on there. And his head? Mostly level with his withers, if just a bit below. I don't put it there, he keeps it there. He LOVES english, loves to jump, loves to run. He's a happy horse.
hanoverianjumpers101 10 months ago
And I am showing in Quarter Horse shows now. Friesians and Arabians have their jobs, and QHs have theirs. I work cows with my pleasure horse; he enjoys it. My Arabian is a joy to show in halter and dressage, and is the greatest trail horse ever. I have respect for ALL disciplines, as I ride (or have tried) most of them. Winning WP horses don't have crippled gaits or their heads in the dirt. EDUCATE YOURSELF PEOPLE. I think this class is great, for the breed. Stop comparing QHs and other breeds!
hanoverianjumpers101 10 months ago
@hanoverianjumpers101 yes thank you some one who finaly agrees i show AQHA western pleasure and slow stuff like tht and i am tierd of every 1 dissing it and its greaat tht u tried every thing cause i want to so bad! :)
purple11thug 9 months ago
While I adore Friesians and Arabs (I have an Arab, and I looked into getting a Friesian last week), I don't think that either breed is uniquely built for WP like a quarter horse is. And I see everyone saying "Oh their heads are in the dirt and they have crippled gaits.".. Just don't. It's not cool to bash other disciplines just because you don't agree with it. I used to hate any judged events other than halter until I started riding it. Now I've sold my barrel horse, gotten a pleasure horse...
hanoverianjumpers101 10 months ago
@hanoverianjumpers101 u freakin rock!!!!! i have been trying to say this but hasnt came out in those words i have a QH and show western and they just fit the diciplin
purple11thug 9 months ago
@purple11thug Thanks haha!
hanoverianjumpers101 9 months ago
wow this is so cool! Looks really beautiful. Friends of us also own a western friesian, they do Spins with him and he is realllly good! This video is great to watch! :)
JoanaNman 10 months ago
(cont) I hate when people rag on the pleasure horses when they really dont know much about them. Most videos people watch on wp are the back-yard yahoo riders that think you can just throw western tack on a horse and......VIOLA! You've got a pleasure horse. Sorry guys but its not that easy. If you watch a true wp horse they really are a pleasure to ride! I wish people would take the chance to watch a real wp horse.....EVERYONE who doesnt believe me, go look up the qh mare Vital Signs Are Good :)
DK578 10 months ago 2
I dont know what western pleasure horses everybody has been watching but they must not have been very good ones lol. I will agree that some western pleasure horses do have funky, crippled-looking gaits but those are not TRUE western pleasure horses.......You can look up western pleasure classes from qh congress or paint/quarter world and the winning do not move that way at all!!! You dont want their head down by their knees.....you want them to carry it level from their withers.
DK578 10 months ago 3
What size gullet for your saddle do you need for your friesian?
hannahfan9871 11 months ago
Well...deffinetly not like back home in Texas.
SweetChiwawa777 1 year ago
well who new well i think that they dont look that well as what western pleasure has evolved to i mean people say our horses are peanut rollers beacause they hang there heads down low but its beautiful i love it i can find about 3/4s of western utube personal will probably think the same thing everyone is entitled to there opinion but i personally think this was a bunch of freisains loping troting and walking around a arena in western tack
westernpleasuregirl1 1 year ago
aren't they going a little fast for a western pleasure show?
mckennarules9 1 year ago
low and slow doesnt look natural... western pleasure should be the horse at his natural look moving nice and easy.... low head with a cripple looking gait isnt nice looking or comfy to ride.. how is that pleasureable??
swNapoleon16 1 year ago 6
this is ugly. the low and slow is better . they have like nooooo, what so ever of collection from these horses .
like eww.
danimals0921 1 year ago
lmao this is a joke right? NO friesian is a western pleasure horse. sorry.
fordlovincountrygirl 1 year ago
it looks much more pretty when the horses don't have their head down! Thank you for showing that!
LiSa88360 1 year ago
Its funny I'm a QH WP rider, not all horses look 'sad' when they work. Actually my pleasure horse loves to go slow, he'd rather go slow than go fast. \
cuttinhorse101 1 year ago
i know when you get older you will be come worlds champion just need to work much more longer and harder just believe in your self and your horse. WTG!
DeerJumper101 1 year ago
ha, i didn't know Fresian's could do Western pleasure! Pleasant suprise though, becouse I think it's a beautiful breed. I ride QH's and arabs, so, you know, I don't see a lot of Fresians at shows :)
MysweetAnnabelle53 1 year ago
I believe that WP horses should look a little more happier like these friesians did. I can't stand the whole head in the dirt thing or the look imma limp to do a trott those poor horses it looks sad to me... These friesians look happy Doing this and I believe all WP horses shud look like that. That's jus my opinion
swNapoleon16 1 year ago
@swNapoleon16 you think for WP their heads should be up in the sky !? hahahahahaha how stupid .
danimals0921 1 year ago
@danimals0921 HAHA NO .... did any of that sentence say i want their head in the sky??? hhmmmmm NO
it said "i believe that all WP horses should look a little but more happier"
In the sky is a little ridiculous thats just as hard as getting them to lower their head... i know i have trained horses
them w/ their heads so low looks sad and un-natural... i belive they should look normal and happy
and no my opinion isnt stupid
swNapoleon16 1 year ago
@swNapoleon16 haha, okay. if horses aren't happy , it is the OWNERS fault for not pleasing them. i've been riding & have shown in WP and most horses i've seen aren't quite content. i dont know what your riding, and most WP horses can pull off a lope .
^^^ those fresians aren't what it is called, " loping " their doing a regular cantar. look up the difference !
danimals0921 1 year ago
@danimals0921 were in my sentence did it say anything about a lope?? hmmm i didnt see anything did u look?
and i know the difference btween the 2 thank you very much. i have worked w/ western pleasure girls, rode in gaited classes, and western races. i know the difference btween NUMEROUS gaits
and stop arguing with others opinions its what they think so leave 'em alone! im sure theirs disciplines you dont like but im not going to sit here and argue with you and say your opinion is wrong!
swNapoleon16 1 year ago
@danimals0921 thats rude and its ugly.... if you hate walking horses good for you i could care less its your opinion and i dont care.
my opinion on WP is they dont look happy and i think the gaits are ugly and stupid, and the horses posture doesnt LOOK HAPPY..
low set heads like that dont LOOK happy to me.. wether the horse is happy or not idk but thats what it LOOKS like to me and thats MY THOUGHTS. AND MY OPINIONS
swNapoleon16 1 year ago
@swNapoleon16 I am not trying to be mean (Despite being horrificly offended) but I train/ride western pleasure and unlike english, all of my horses are ridden on a very loose reign, and if you actually knew how to ride a western pleasure horse, you would know that the key to getting them to go slow is getting them to relax, unlike saddleseat. Don't judge people with your misinformation- This was offensive, cruel, and unnecesary.
MysweetAnnabelle53 1 year ago
@MysweetAnnabelle53 can you please explain to me how i was being cruel and offensive??
the unneccesary was the person who had to be rude and ugly back to my opinion... i should not have to defend my self on simply stating i think the horse looks unhappy... are you going to critizice that person for their opinion too?? because if your going to do this to me you should do it to them..
and i believe in MY OPINION that WP horses dont look happy... i stopped riding WP because i got tierd of the
swNapoleon16 1 year ago
@swNapoleon16 Calm down a little...True, lot of trainers I have seen doing WP are very cruel and make the horses move awkwardly. I don't train that way, and I only make the horses move slow enough to be relaxed, but not crippled. Depending on who you rode with, and such, you may have had different experiences than me, therefor your opinions are different. I think it is a bit irrational to cut out all WP horses and trainers, but if that's how you feel, I am not trying to change your opinion.
MysweetAnnabelle53 1 year ago
@swNapoleon16 (cont.) Also, I was just trying to "diversify" my argument with the whole, "Saddleseat" thing- and I have to say I have seen the bad, and good sides of the riding style. Both WP and SS have ups and downs. I love walking horses, and have met some incredible ones. I don't really think it's funny, but again, that's your opinion, and I never meant to pick a fight. I just am sick of ill-informed people judging my style of riding (I'll bet you can relate) and get a little trigger happy.
MysweetAnnabelle53 1 year ago
@MysweetAnnabelle53 incredibly slow moving artificial gaits.. when i saw people training there horses to do this i didnt like it.. and my horses are ridden on a lose reign as well... i show walking horses but i never pull on her reins... and were did saddle seat come in?? i dont do that im a walking horse light shod... completly different discipline lol and i wasnt judging anybody at any time thats what i think is funny about this... i was being attacked with my opinion on WP
swNapoleon16 1 year ago
i honestly think that friesians aren't western pleasure horses, or arabs, they just seem more spirited, i love QH's, but i think they are more suit for it, but that's just my opinion
livelovehorses97 1 year ago 2
@livelovehorses97 Right, that's just YOUR opinion Arabs and Friesians look SO much happier and better than nay quarter horse looks!
52149atticus 1 year ago
Y would you waste the Majestic Friesian's talents on WP? Of course they perform like marvels in WP, how hard is it to walk/run (not a Discipline-all horses have this ability)? They R wonderful movers, in Dressage, which requires Far More Skill than WP. While often used as Carriage horses, their true talents were carrying heavily armored knights into battle throughout ancient history. W. horses R mainly Q. horses w/compact bodies 4 tight turns & short stops...4 cutting cows...
kisherwood8 1 year ago
con't...Friesians' abilities go Far beyond the simple skills of Western horses.
Just Google Friesian Breed Standards. No references to their being ideal for WP.
kisherwood8 1 year ago
Think what everyone pleases but personally I would never find a headset like this on a qh or paint attractive in anyway. Looks to high up for a stock type horse, on and by the way our horses are just as collected if not more than the ones in the video. Different styles people, learn your facts.
Aceyfacey3 1 year ago
Luvd this video! I wish more footage was captured of the other 2 horses tho. Who knew Fresians could perform like such marvels in wp? Wonderful movers! Even though footage was limited, I chose the winner correctly, but I put the predominately filmed one on the bottom as it broke gait in the 2nd direction at the lope. Ah well, it probably stayed more correctly on the vertical than the true #3. It's good to see the criteria is consistent, but I'd agree that too low head carriages are detrimental
horsegabn 1 year ago 2
The winner wouldn't canter unless someone cantered right in front of her- watch again and you'll barely see her wait for number 2 to go past first. I was happy with 2nd place for my 2nd time ever showing personally- and it was on a 5 year old stallion. He's quite a good little horse now. I'll put a video link to the same horse the following summer with a much better rider.
CallyMatherly 1 year ago 2
what a arfull movie.........!
its so old.. and so doe'st madd'r
hyperkind1 1 year ago
it really isnt wp more like english with wp gear haha
westernpleasuresarah 2 years ago
friesians are great but maybe they should stick with english
westernpleasuresarah 2 years ago
that "western pleasure lope" is more like a gallop! lol
PleasureHorse22 2 years ago
What is really sad is that winning Western Pleasure Quarter Horses, Paints and Appaloosas all used to carry their heads as high as these Friesans do and used to walk and lope as freely too. Somehow a terrible fad got started for them to hang their heads low and go really really slow and it just has not died....
LeeAnne151 2 years ago 17
@LeeAnne151 I was just saying something similar in the comments of an Arabian western pleasure video. Somehow the book definition of and what actually gets scored well are two different things. What the judges score well has no basis in the reality of how a horse should move. You're right, it's a horrible fad. These Friesians here are doing more or less well enough moving in a way natural to them. Good for them! :)
cyberg00se 2 years ago 2
thayts ur opion i disagree
westernpleasuresarah 2 years ago
It would be even sadder if people still did that today.
lovethatblaze 1 year ago
@LeeAnne151 I agree - I stopped doing WP years ago, if there heads hung any lower they would stumble over themselves. They are not collected like these horses are - just forced down with martingales. The point of having the head on the vertical is that if they do that their hindquarters are engaged. If you watch the WP videos they are not on the vertical - just carrying there head at there knees.
MSALLENCPA 1 year ago
@LeeAnne151
the thing is that now, the way western pleasure horses move is not unnatural. theyre bread that way...my little mare couldnt lope fast if she wanted to. this freisians look rediculous...there is no such thing as a western pleasure freisian.
fordlovincountrygirl 1 year ago
@fordlovincountrygirl nasty much ? haha
danimals0921 1 year ago
@LeeAnne151 ik, its the worst thing to see nowadays, this class performed beautifully. the stupid slow movements now dont even make sense, you cant do anything with those gaits!!! grrr! its not like you can go move cattle at that slow pace, it will take you years!!
allegroequine14 1 year ago
@allegroequine14 i completely agree! i have an arab who's built like a western horse but i show english cause she's too old for working cows or reining and there's now way to make her go that slow for WP... but she can canter on a loose rein and stay collected and i believe thats all WP should be about =( see any cowboy's horses loping like they're crippled? i don't!
4x4Girl14 1 year ago
@LeeAnne151 im glad someone else sees it, everyone is all over twh's when there are other breeds that are abused too! quarter horses often have the nerve in their tails clipped so they wont swish them, thats really sad because when the horse is in the pasture it cant swish its tail
Moontail37 1 year ago
@Moontail37
Nerve blocking should be illegal. Sadly it is done at the highest level of competition. The reiners at the World Equestrian Games were clearly nerve blocked. It is disgusting.
LeeAnne151 1 year ago
@LeeAnne151 u know people like u need to shut up and get over yourself we dont hert horses they r born in captivity we arent going to turn them to the wild nor be a pasture horses cause tht isnt safe at all for the horse so i bet u arent a horse rider so i sugjest to keep you mouth shut and your opinions to yourself
purple11thug 9 months ago
@purple11thug
You lose that bet. I've been riding since before you were born considering how you talk. I own a foundation bred AQHA registered horse. I was showing WP in the 70's when they moved more naturally, I've seen the fad of extreme low heads and crippled movement come and now the AQHA is desperately trying to stop it but their judges still place four beating jalking horses with their polls below their whithers and their tails nerve blocked. Now the reiners are being nerved as well.
LeeAnne151 9 months ago
friesians are naturally good at dressage..don't get me wrong..I think wp's cool..just maybe not so much a place for friesians.
rockcandy0sidekick 2 years ago
You know, i think friesians are beautiful and all, but they arent even that great at dressage. Flashy yes, but they get strung out really easily. they are carriage horses (breed for it) and it think they just look a bit goofy outside of movies, carriages, or even dressage... nothing against western, but its sort of like buying a Shetland and wanting to show it saddleseat or showjumping or something... just not really practical... I mean you might find some good at it, but still...
gryphonkeen 2 years ago
They ARE not bred solely as carriage horses. Get your facts straight. Friesians' talents trace back through ancient history where they were used in battle. Later they were used as work & carriage horses but also have a Natural Talent 4 dressage. W. horses Do Not. They R a cross breed developed by crossing imported English thoroughbreds w/assorted "native" horses, various breeds developed by Native Americans w/horses descended from Spain...con't.
kisherwood8 1 year ago
@kisherwood8: ...developed from Iberian, Arabian & Barb stock brought 2 what is now the SE U.S. by the Conquistadors.
kisherwood8 1 year ago
I agree with Naturgirl. But it just that some horses look better in other things.! :) Like i like this its nice looking.
horsewoman34 2 years ago
I like the video actually I enjoyed it,but the person below me who says Friesians should only do dressage you sound kinda stupid sorry but you do.They are actually carriage horses thats what they were bred to do.But I personaly think any horse can do any discipline with good training.
naturegirl243 2 years ago 3
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Fresians should only we DRESSAGE HORSES.
ciciblair 2 years ago
Ein Western-Friese! :) Wie meiner.
Ich find's super. Sieht gut aus!
LittleSunshine1712 2 years ago
A friend of mine owned a New Forest gelding who kicked the booty of a number of VERY high and mighty Qh and paints in a number of Western STYLE events. I've seen trotters and semi heavy horses perform better then most stockbreeds in the show they attended. It depends on the person who train them.
I know what makes a good team - a good rider and a good horse regardless of their origins. These Fresian horses look like a real delight to ride, they do it their way, nuff said.
Ahdeya 2 years ago
I dont diss western itself , I ride western I ride english, I did how ever diss how the horses head and gaits are un natural in the pleasure classes it's not normal for a horse, Im really sad when they ride in a jog over a jump too , it looks so unnatural. I think this fresian video is great, it shows how nice a horse can move collected and on a lose rein with out having there head below their knees or a funny gait.
boskox 2 years ago 14
I have to strongly disagree with you regarding how it is un natural the way wp horses move, for some it is, but for a true QH WP horse it IS natural. My horse would much rather go slow and lope with his head down than canter around... it has been bred into the bred to make it easier for they to move that way. When i lounge my horse he will lope all day but will not gallop or canter around because that is what is not natural to him.
lydian68011 2 years ago
@boskox not to be dis respectful but i show novice pleasure and i have a quarter horse and we ride with a lose rain and its head is down and collected all we do is slow its canter down and make shore they rare using them self this is NOT unnatural and we dont have are heads 'below their knees' simply level or a little lower ... this friesian pleasure just looks horible... also the 'funny gait' is thus you see from and inexperiensed rider
purple11thug 9 months ago
I think this is a cool video. I also think that the western jog and lope and head set is NOT natural for a horse and looks ridiculas, and can cause problems later. I think this fresian western pleasure class is nice and allows the horse to be natural in their gates. Not to mention these are fresians, big beautiful horses, with a bigger stride to them so it would be really hard for them to have an un natural head set and lope and gait like they put on horses for the pleasure class.
boskox 2 years ago 5
It does not look ridiculas & it does not cause problems later. WP is a relaxed, easy 2 ride horse who moves slow & clean. Most of the time itz their natural gaits so think b4 you speak. I have nothing against english riders but dressage looks lik it can cause problems so can jumping so chill out & let people do what they want. Personally I ride western but I lik englidh aswell...Its just diffrent styles of riding.
XXHorseGallyXX 2 years ago
you have missed my point. but I will allow that seeing as though you sound like a teenager .
boskox 2 years ago
It dosen't really matter if Im teenager or not 2 tell u the truth I got a little offended by your comment b/c western personally is what I ride & enjoy doing it. So you can think & have your own thoughts but every1 has there own opion i guess. Just don't diss western b/c its really not ridiculas.
XXHorseGallyXX 2 years ago
ich finds hübsch, aber erinnert ans Mittelalter XD
Irgendwie sind keine Zuschauer da?
Nici172 2 years ago
ähm.. das sieht irgendwie sehr lächerlich aus ^^
Shicasava 2 years ago
ugly
WilliamsShowHorses1 2 years ago
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they totally suck at western
DressageGurl613 2 years ago
Friesen sind Kutschpferde und keine Pleasurepferde........
FindingF23 2 years ago
That is amazing
Stormhorse23 2 years ago
i have shown my own horses, but never any this beautiful! this is just my opinion but i have NEVER seen a Freisian doing a pleasure class, Ive always thot of them as sporty dressage horses. But u and the horse were AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
wmdda 2 years ago
This is great. Western Pleasure in any breed should be about how nice the ride is... not how unnatural and man-made you can make it.
Cometquisto 2 years ago 2
Oh my goodness, wonderful job displaying how ignorant people are on what Western Pleasure is about.
Western Pleasure is about having a consistent, cadenced, flat kneed, and relaxed horse. The ideal Western Pleasure horse should be shown on a loose rein while executing walk, jog, and lope transitions. The horse should have a soft expression and give a smooth and easy to ride appearance.
Geez, and I don't even show stock or pleasure type Western Pleasure.
obscuredmelody 2 years ago
Hey douchebag, each breed sets it own standards for its show classes. If the Oddsbegottensich Horse Association wanted its WP horses to canter backwads they can do it. At least they don't look like recently-exhumed zombies like the western breed WP horses always do.
Liberty9m 2 years ago
Yay! Friesians doing Western Pleasure, now no one can make me learn hunt seat!! Haha. BTW guys, any breed of horse can pretty much do western as long as they can shorten and lengthen their strides, Friesians just look dang awsome in whatever they do anyway :p
DragoneyesLC 2 years ago 2
Friesians are bred for flashy gaits are they not? Why show a horse bred for knee action in a class judged on a lack of knee action. I wouldn't try and show a Quarter Horse in a Park Class, why? Because that class is an oxymoron to the breed.
obscuredmelody 2 years ago 3
if a horse is show as what breed it is it can be show in anything but don't try to make a horse move like a different breed these horses did great they moved like big horses not like QH or paints they worked like friesians and they did amazing.
CrazyLady7782 2 years ago
Agreed. I went to equine affaire over the weekend and saw a friesian stud that would have kicked the shit out of most QH's in a WP class. Any horse can compete in anything if they get the right training and are riden by someone who knows what they're doing.
huntressnothunted 2 years ago
whatever, haters! I am SO sick of people saying QHs and Paints are the BE ALL of WP!! Get a life! ANY horse should be able to do well in ANY discipline, if the trainer knows what the hell they're doing. The Freisians look great!
KJDean1968 2 years ago
LOL. I'm sorry, I'm trying to not be a "hater", but I doubt whatever I say will be taken seriously. A Freisian competing in Western Pleasure is an oxymoron! Freisian's are designed to exhibit knee action, where as WP is looking for a flat kneed jog. Hence why there are only THREE competing in a National level class.
I don't care if they are competing in a Western Class, just call it something other than Western Pleasure. Please, you guys are just asking to be ridiculed.
obscuredmelody 2 years ago
They can call it Western Pleasure if they want.
At least these people are not afraid to go out and try something different. Unlike you whose going on the beaten trail not starting one of your own. Your the one whose going to be ridiculed when Friesians are more oftenly used for western pleasure.
pintoponylover4 2 years ago
I've been told assumptions make an ass of the person that made them. I'm beginning to believe it. You don't know me, you don't know the horses I own or ride and the disciplines I show. Who are you to say I'm on a beaten trail?
obscuredmelody 2 years ago
Yeah, and paints competing with English pleasure classes are just comical. Don't be a hypocrit
schwartzedesign 2 years ago
Paints do just fine competing in the Hunter/Jumper shows as they do the Pleasure ring. Find a better example, please!
obscuredmelody 2 years ago
And what about quarter horses in hunter pleasure classes? They weren't bred to do that originally. Arabians were not bred to trot like a Saddle Bred. But they do it because its a new division they can compete in and create a more versatile breed of horse.
Frenchffoxx 2 years ago 6
@obscuredmelody So qh's jumping and doing hunter pleasure is an oxymoron too, right? They weren't "bred" for it. Though I've seen stock horses jumping as well as english breeds. Hmm.
4x4Girl14 1 year ago
@4x4Girl14
I grant that you have a point to a certain degree. But Quarter Horses can still jump and carry out the point of the class. Whereas the entire build of a Friesian counter acts the ideal of a Western pleasure horse. It would be like showing a QH in a park class.
obscuredmelody 1 year ago
I loved this. Good job. And I think any horse can do western :)) And i only own qhs! lol I enjoyed this :))
Ilovenathangregg1 2 years ago
That's so cool! :D
To all the people saying that friesians shouldnt be doing western pleasure, get a life!!! QH's aren't the only horses that can do western. That's like me saying that QH's shouldn't do english.... BS!!
shiiuza 2 years ago
Great job friesians look good at a lot of things. depends who's riding.
It's not a waste of talent. If I had a horse like that and I entered western pleasure classes. I'd use a friesian or any breed. Great control. I like your loose rein I love seeing that. Loose rein equals happy horse!
biffybilliamson 3 years ago
Oh, this is cool. I might not enter somthing like this, it proves that the beautiful Fresian can do almost everything. Just like a Quarter Horse can do jumping or Dressage. ;P
BorzoiLoverr 3 years ago
Friesian*** x3 Haha
BorzoiLoverr 3 years ago
Very interesting video! I honestly did not know that Friesians had western classes too. As for everyone that says this is how WP "should be", I think you need to crack open some rulebooks. Different breeds do things in different ways, if everything should be the same across the board then what is the point in even having different breeds of horses? Horses move the way their conformation dictates - form to function, people!
HorseJudger413 3 years ago 4
leave western pleasure to quarter horses...
Indiancreekstable 3 years ago
western should be left to quarter horses.
Jesseygirl101 3 years ago
I think that western should beleft to the quarter horses. (not that it wasn't good) I like the friesians wit english, not western, they look odd!
Jesseygirl101 3 years ago
paints are really amazing at pleasure too
PaintHorseStar 3 years ago
this is the way wp should be. the horses have a head set that is comfortable for them and they have actual gaits. wp should be about the horse being comfortable as well.
shayniffer 3 years ago
O god... what a waste of talent !!! : )))
saddlesforsale 3 years ago
They are beautiful, but I really think they are made for dressage.
BreyerCT 3 years ago
Personaly I think they look better in english but I like the gaits 4 the western pleasure fresians better! some girl took one 2 fair. It was amazing!
seirrateirra 3 years ago
yay for Lexington!!! Absalutly beautiful!!!
ChanceGetsLucky 3 years ago
thats so cool i never knew there was western pleasure for friesians
ainahorse555 3 years ago
Lovely! So refreshing to see some comfortable horses and competent riders in western pleasure. Its gotten so weird lately, its really great to see that some people still value horses for what they are, not what they can be forced to become. 5 stars! But you disabled ratings. Oh well.
daintyhyena 3 years ago
western pleasure isnt forcing horses, its what oaints and qarter horses are bred to do. every breed is bred for different things, freshians are just not as great at pleasure
PaintHorseStar 3 years ago 2
It's nice to see a real walk,trot and cantor,also horses that move at a more natural way,to me this is the real western plasure,at least the horses don't look all depressed.
asqrss3233 3 years ago
did u go to nationals this year?
HorseAnimeLover 3 years ago
they really don't belong in a western saddle...they don't move like the western pleasure horses with there heads nice down relaxed small steps these ones...are just dressage horses period
rustyhorse545 3 years ago
Rustyhorse545 your right they don't have their head between their knees,they canter not 4 beat,and actually might get somewhere.
boadicea1 3 years ago
its difficukt to ride a friesian in pleasure, they have too mutch movement and theyre head too high.. But ist lovelyhorses :)
Lillerns 3 years ago
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Friesians belong to dressage! not WP! =P
LulitaInPita 3 years ago
that.. is like negative western pleasure.
western pleasure minus itself.
... aka, not western pleasure.
systematicstatic 3 years ago
You know, a Western saddle is a LOT closer to a medieval knight's saddle... so I guess it should be a NATURAL for these horses!
Nice to see some naturally-moving horses. QH pleasure really depresses me, and Arab WP is getting pretty weird too.
jenseju 3 years ago
well they don't look terribly comfortable. cool to watch though.
retsas1d 3 years ago
fresians don't belong in a western saddle.
this isn't what they are bred for, it looks so unnatural...
OddRee707 3 years ago
they can do a heck of a good job at western, so i don't see the problem.... looks like fun :)
KLuvsKC77 3 years ago
Just cause they're not a breed made for western doesn't mean it bothers them. Those are strong horses! They carried frikkin' knights! Haha, it DOES look funny though XD
DuckofSwedan 3 years ago
omg i show AQHA and this is soooooooooo cool to watch seeing big horses like these under western tack!
sooo cool
harpo5690 3 years ago
Beautiful horses...i think it would be cool to see a Fresian do Reining. Id like to have a horse like that but I dont think it would cross well on our Quarter horses! LOL. that was interesting though.I lOVE CUTTING AND REINING! :) (this was waaay more fun to watch than regular western pleasure even though W pleasure horses are pretty...they really arent 'fun' to watch)
peptosrapperminime 3 years ago
Oh dear. I know "Friesians are athletic" and all, but they are not designed for Reining. I've taken classes on how to judge Reining and I've NEVER seen any breed besides Stock types excel in Reining in the NRHA.
obscuredmelody 2 years ago
well it's a good thing this isn't reining
PaintedxPalomino 2 years ago 2
I wish all western pleasure could be like this. This looks natural and not fake at all. Lovely.
7flyinghecks 3 years ago
Wow. I show American Quarter Horses and I'm used to watching a slow stride and a low head! haha! This is so different, though. It's so cool to watch. =) I've never ever seen a breed other than an AQH do any type of western event.
HorseShowGirlxx 3 years ago 2
western pleasure bores the crap out of me, no offense. LOL.
Taliaa070 3 years ago
I WANT TO BARREL RACE A FRIESIAN =D LOL
WesternFriesian 3 years ago
My-oh-my, and I want to do classical dressage with a Quarterhorse. Tststs.
Dzctr 3 years ago 3
Who says you cant do classical dressage with a Quarterhorse??
WesternFriesian 3 years ago 2
aww friesians r cute.
rgn6showgirl 3 years ago
I think these horses look good no matter what they're doin'!
CowboyPenner 3 years ago 2
i have never seen a westurn pleasure friseian horse but maybe i'll will try it with mine
horsecandy97 4 years ago
ew. im not a fan of friesians in western. gorss. but atleast they actually move vs the lethargic 1/2 dead western peanut pushers :/
WarmbloodJumper 4 years ago
What a bitchy comment. It's just RUDE to call someone's horse gross. You are obviously very ignorant too, lathargic peanut pushers my butt. Come watch my 2 pleasure horses someday, and then you'll change your mind!
ILoveMyArab 3 years ago
Ahhhhhhhhh, breed prejudice, it's everywhere. Friesians can do it all guys. I also think what you see in the WP classes elsewhere is ugly, heads down to the ground and barely movingoff the ground. That's REAL comfortable for a horse and so natural. Give me a break.
It's nice to see happy horses in the ring......
friesianlover 4 years ago 3
i thought friesians were dressage and english only but hey
horselvr26 4 years ago
i think its gorss to see friesians in western :/ they look better in english. atleast [[THANK GOD]] they actually move...not lope and drag their legs and sniff the ground.
WarmbloodJumper 4 years ago
look at my user name. i hate it when pepol say friesians cant do western this proves they can thx 4 makeing this vid :] someday just 2 prove pepol wrong i want 2 barrel race a friesian WHY NOT
WesternFriesian 4 years ago 2
im with you i dont think any breed of horse is designated to a specific objective(sorry for the big words. just for shyts and giggles we(me and few friends) took a clysdale whos pulled for the first 10 yrs of its life and re-trained him for cuting/ranchwork. last i heard he works on a ranch in texas.
unlkybrd 4 years ago 2
both of you are so correct!!!! I know, i have paint and she's trained dressage. so a friesian doing western is not weird.
SymbolsOfSaturn129 3 years ago
friesons arent very good at western, they kinda belong to hunter and dressage
ritzgal96 4 years ago
I personally think Friesians are only good for classical riding(dressage) because they are pretty much naturally collected in everything,and or just pleasure riding. there's is know difference between english and western, english you just have to have greater balance and correct instruction, western it has a horn so you don't have to have the greater balance still instruction though.
Myhorse321 4 years ago
FREISONS doing pleasure thats rare
KenzandAlex 4 years ago
I have to agree. I discounted most of the QH breed because its like riding a huge tank on VW tires. Some are really beautiful and do their job but it seems to me they aren't so much about ranch work any more. Yay for seeing Friesians in classes other than english.
kaisenji 4 years ago
Although I don't go for WP, if I were to ride this style, this is how it should be done! Not like the QH crowd. I've read to much about the dope, the cutting of tendons in the ears and tails, and so one that that crowd does to have a calm looking horse.
Pro3110 4 years ago
I have to wonder where you get your information. QH people DO NOT cut tendons in the ears or tail. Some people inject the tail to cause it to move less but that is illegal according to the rules. The shows all have mandatory random drug testing too to prevent drug use. There are bad people in all equine disciplines. QH's set the standard for Western Please. I LOVE Friesians but they don't look comfortable to ride for hours on end - a good QH is.
2qhrs 4 years ago
I have to agree. QH pleasrue horses are meant to be ridden along fencelines for long hours. I don't agree with the peanut roller frames seen in the rings though.
I can't see the Friesian being comfortable for that. That