The real reason that Truman opposed JFK for the nomination is that Truman hated Joe Kennedy, Sr. JFK's father turned against FDR when he was fired as Ambassador to Great Britain in 1940 and was a supporter of Joe McCarthy in the 1950's. When asked if he opposed JFK because Kennedy was Catholic, Truman replied "It's not the Pope I'm worried about, it's the Pop!"
If Kennedy was not the son of the Nazi- lover Joseph Kennedy, he would have been thrown in the brig for allowing a PT boat to be hit by a destroyer. Only time in WWII that such a screw-up happened. But, like everything else connected with the Kennedys, it worked out well for them due to the devil incarnate, J.P. Kennedy. It was like a Ferrari being unable to avoid a garbage truck, and yet, Kennedy comes out of the fiasco a hero. How gullible is the American public.
Of course, once JFK received the Democratic nomination, Harry gave JFK his full support. Truman even gave speeches for Kennedy. Once he got worked up and told a crowd "Anyone who votes for Nixon ought to go to Hell!" Kennedy responded with "I've asked President Truman to please not bring up the religious issue in this campaign..." Truman loved it.
Kennedy, having no maturity or experience, lead us into the VIETNAM meat grinder and he lost CUBA to the facist thug Castro. Truman was right. I did like Jack Kennedy very much. He had bad advisers.
@xmenrus Blaming JFK for "losing Cuba" to Castro is nonsense. Fidel Castro became the leader of Cuba on Jan. 1, 1959, more than 2 years before Kennedy became president. Two months after JFK took office in '61 he signed off on an ill conceived military operation, planned by the CIA under the Eisenhower administration, to overthrow Castro. It failed, but fortunately it made him smart enough to reject the same gang's plans during the missile crisis or we'd be a charred hole in the ground now.
@gtimny I got this info from a military Colonel from a Central American country who was also a CIA trained mole. He told me that the 'party' was on to take Cuba and overthrow Castro and friends. He was on the beach waiting for the US Naval fighters to bomb cuban airfields and straif the beaches against cuban military forces. The plan was put together using CIA assets who also felt cheated by the Kennedy Bros. Do you see any of the brothers walking the face of the earth?
Good comment. Bay Of Pigs was Eisenhower/CIA-Allen Dulles. JFK did the right thing. They hated him for it but he did the right thing. Putting US Servicemens lives at risk for this wasnt acceptable to him.
@gtimny I merely point out that what the CIA planned and wanted is not what Jack Kennedy commited too and the pulled back. Maybe he was right; but he was DEAD right. Jack also stopped borrowing from the Federal Reserve Bank issuing US NOTES through the US Mind as per the US Constitution and thus challenged the world bankers; and Jack was ready to pull out of Vietnam in total; against the vested ingterest of the banksters and the National Defense Industry.
@xmenrus Again, I believe Jack was right; but bad advisors or CIA shills in the White House led hime down the wrong path. His administration was filled with top MASONIC NWO members. Jack was for the supremacy of the US by abstaining from oversea wars and intrigues which are bankrupting the US today. America is a bulwark against the NWO. The last presidents and our current presidents persist in doing everything they can to bring this country down.
"Profiles in Courage" was written by Ted Sorensen. Fact.
The Kennedy scum were, and still are a blight on this country. Bunch of rich, arrogant, drunken punks. Their women marry for money. Jackie K. was one of the nation's highest priced whores. Kennedy, then the troll Onassis and then lived with Templesman, but would not marry him. Red Ted is Dead. In August he will earn his one year pin from AA.
@vanbock AMEN BROTHER! AMEN! Marylin Monroe found out the hardway. I heard the testimony of an LA motorcycle cop the pulled over a limo for speeding on it's way to the airport on the night Monroe died. Robert Kennedy was in the back seat. The cop shined his flashlight on him and of course recognized him. An attorney friend of Bobby in San Francisco swore to an investigator the Bobby was in his S.F Mansion the day Monroe died.
@BamaChris There is a YT clip with JFK talking to friends in 1959 where he said, in effect, that he was bored in the Senate. He thought he had a better chance against Nixon 1960 than in 1964, fearing Nixon would be elected in 1960 and he (Kennedy) would have to run against an incumbent President in 1964. Incumbent Presidents rarely lost.
@MegaObserver1 I'm sure that is true, too. I would love to see that video if you can show me the link to it. I got the info that JFK had to run while he was young, because he did not think that he would live to old age, from Robert Dallek, who wrote a good autobiography on him and helped with the History Channel Documentary: "JFK: A Presidency Revealed"
i think truman was just friends with LBJ and the older dems all thought LBJ should get the nomination, and when he didnt they bitched and cried about it. JFK was a great president and would have taken this country and ythe world to new heights of peace and prosperity. but obama is no JFK or RFK or MLK.i think he can be a decent president, def better then bush or mccain but please dont compare him to kennedy.
@billheartyface Correction...The Japan wreck his boat...thank you for not understanding what happen in August of 1944. If you think Obama wrote his two books than you are a kool aide drinker
you've been drinking too much "kook aide". And I think you need to go back and read Profiles in Courage. It's all about how drunken Kennedy wrecked his boat.
@billheartyface Since I have the book of Profiles In Courage, please tell me what page are you talking about. Please stop the drugs because those 5 senators story had nothing to do with his actions in WWII; You can't be that stupid to think Profiles In Courage was about John Kennedy.
@billheartyface Second...Profiles In Courage wasn't about his actions in WWII dumbass, it was about 5 historic U.S Senators who stood against thier party. Why England Slept was about the weakness of Europe, so what book are you talking about on what a hero he was?
Kennedy inherited The Bay of pigs from Ike,its a well known fact,look it up...on "the Google".Lets not forget how he kept a cool head during the cuban missile crisis.
Nope. JFK gave the okay for the Bay of Pigs invasion. I do give JFK credit for getting us out of the mess he created. As Truman said of it, "the presidency will make a man out of any boy." Despite Mr. Truman's near-prophetic hunches, he could not forsee that the presidency could not make a man out of the boy who currently resides at 1600.
You can find sites on the internets that say Elvis Presely is still alive. That don't make it a fact.
yeah the plan was inherited from ike but more from nixon who was VP and cheif white house executive for matters like this in 59. he was pressumed to be president in '60 were the plan would be taken into action. the cia lied to jfk and instead of publicly blaiming them, kennedy took the hit and his poll #s went up. think about it, a president that admits his errors and tries to correct them, not the 1s today that never admit fault and stay the course no matter how bad things get
JFk was a great president, how the hell was it marred? because he slept with women?? the public didnt kno about the drugs and he only took them because he had addisons disease and hurt his back in ww2. JFK was great in the missle crises, started the new civil rights laws, started the space program and made it what it is today. the bay of pigs was a shitty CIA plan that failed because they lied to kennedy and instead of blaming them he took the hit publically. your an idiot.
Hey pat442389 wake up. In November 1961 President Kennedy approved Operation Mongoose, a secret plan aimed at stimulating a rebellion in Cuba that the United States could support. His brother Robert was involved in the plan. He forced Castro to seek stronger military support thus the Cuban Missile crisis is born.
Kennedy was also involved in assassination of President Diem of South Vietnam. Pat442389 this assassination was only 3 weeks before his. Just remember if Kennedy played it straight there would not have been a Cuban Missile Crisis.
I like Harry S. Truman because he stayed true to his common roots and wanted the highest office to stay accesible to ordinary citizens. Regardless of this, the privileged JFK was entirely fit for the job.
""The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew."
Thanks JIMB, that was beautiful, I'd never heard that quote before. Few American politicians have been so eloquent, or so capable of embodying the American spirit, as Lincoln and Kennedy.
The real reason that Truman opposed JFK for the nomination is that Truman hated Joe Kennedy, Sr. JFK's father turned against FDR when he was fired as Ambassador to Great Britain in 1940 and was a supporter of Joe McCarthy in the 1950's. When asked if he opposed JFK because Kennedy was Catholic, Truman replied "It's not the Pope I'm worried about, it's the Pop!"
observer9670 6 months ago
Truman was right. Kennedy was not ready. Kennedy's whole presidency was defined by the little country of Cuba and its little dictator, Castro.
johnny511000 8 months ago
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Harry Truman wasn't a human - he's anti, anti-man!
He's lis'nin' 2 the "slotsiP xeS" (while dancin' crazy pogo dance!...) xDD
Hollandia777 9 months ago
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xmenrus says:
"I got this info from a military Colonel from a Central American country who was also a CIA trained mole."
"I heard the testimony of an LA motorcycle cop the pulled over a limo for speeding on it's way to the airport on the night Monroe died."
What planet do you live on, buddy? Better make yourself a tin foil hat, the CIA is beaming microwaves at your brain.
By the way, I talked to Khruschev's pool man the other day and HE told me Raul Castro was a cross-dressing dominatrix.
gtimny 1 year ago
If Kennedy was not the son of the Nazi- lover Joseph Kennedy, he would have been thrown in the brig for allowing a PT boat to be hit by a destroyer. Only time in WWII that such a screw-up happened. But, like everything else connected with the Kennedys, it worked out well for them due to the devil incarnate, J.P. Kennedy. It was like a Ferrari being unable to avoid a garbage truck, and yet, Kennedy comes out of the fiasco a hero. How gullible is the American public.
vanbock 1 year ago
Of course, once JFK received the Democratic nomination, Harry gave JFK his full support. Truman even gave speeches for Kennedy. Once he got worked up and told a crowd "Anyone who votes for Nixon ought to go to Hell!" Kennedy responded with "I've asked President Truman to please not bring up the religious issue in this campaign..." Truman loved it.
MegaObserver1 1 year ago
Kennedy, having no maturity or experience, lead us into the VIETNAM meat grinder and he lost CUBA to the facist thug Castro. Truman was right. I did like Jack Kennedy very much. He had bad advisers.
xmenrus 1 year ago
@xmenrus Blaming JFK for "losing Cuba" to Castro is nonsense. Fidel Castro became the leader of Cuba on Jan. 1, 1959, more than 2 years before Kennedy became president. Two months after JFK took office in '61 he signed off on an ill conceived military operation, planned by the CIA under the Eisenhower administration, to overthrow Castro. It failed, but fortunately it made him smart enough to reject the same gang's plans during the missile crisis or we'd be a charred hole in the ground now.
gtimny 1 year ago
@gtimny I got this info from a military Colonel from a Central American country who was also a CIA trained mole. He told me that the 'party' was on to take Cuba and overthrow Castro and friends. He was on the beach waiting for the US Naval fighters to bomb cuban airfields and straif the beaches against cuban military forces. The plan was put together using CIA assets who also felt cheated by the Kennedy Bros. Do you see any of the brothers walking the face of the earth?
xmenrus 1 year ago
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capetown99 1 year ago
@gtimny
Good comment. Bay Of Pigs was Eisenhower/CIA-Allen Dulles. JFK did the right thing. They hated him for it but he did the right thing. Putting US Servicemens lives at risk for this wasnt acceptable to him.
capetown99 1 year ago
@gtimny I merely point out that what the CIA planned and wanted is not what Jack Kennedy commited too and the pulled back. Maybe he was right; but he was DEAD right. Jack also stopped borrowing from the Federal Reserve Bank issuing US NOTES through the US Mind as per the US Constitution and thus challenged the world bankers; and Jack was ready to pull out of Vietnam in total; against the vested ingterest of the banksters and the National Defense Industry.
xmenrus 1 year ago
@xmenrus Again, I believe Jack was right; but bad advisors or CIA shills in the White House led hime down the wrong path. His administration was filled with top MASONIC NWO members. Jack was for the supremacy of the US by abstaining from oversea wars and intrigues which are bankrupting the US today. America is a bulwark against the NWO. The last presidents and our current presidents persist in doing everything they can to bring this country down.
xmenrus 1 year ago
"Profiles in Courage" was written by Ted Sorensen. Fact.
The Kennedy scum were, and still are a blight on this country. Bunch of rich, arrogant, drunken punks. Their women marry for money. Jackie K. was one of the nation's highest priced whores. Kennedy, then the troll Onassis and then lived with Templesman, but would not marry him. Red Ted is Dead. In August he will earn his one year pin from AA.
End of story.
vanbock 1 year ago
@vanbock AMEN BROTHER! AMEN! Marylin Monroe found out the hardway. I heard the testimony of an LA motorcycle cop the pulled over a limo for speeding on it's way to the airport on the night Monroe died. Robert Kennedy was in the back seat. The cop shined his flashlight on him and of course recognized him. An attorney friend of Bobby in San Francisco swore to an investigator the Bobby was in his S.F Mansion the day Monroe died.
xmenrus 1 year ago
JFK had to run for POTUS in 1960 cause he was in bad health and he didn't think he would live into later life.
BamaChris 2 years ago
@BamaChris There is a YT clip with JFK talking to friends in 1959 where he said, in effect, that he was bored in the Senate. He thought he had a better chance against Nixon 1960 than in 1964, fearing Nixon would be elected in 1960 and he (Kennedy) would have to run against an incumbent President in 1964. Incumbent Presidents rarely lost.
MegaObserver1 1 year ago
@MegaObserver1 I'm sure that is true, too. I would love to see that video if you can show me the link to it. I got the info that JFK had to run while he was young, because he did not think that he would live to old age, from Robert Dallek, who wrote a good autobiography on him and helped with the History Channel Documentary: "JFK: A Presidency Revealed"
BamaChris 1 year ago
i think truman was just friends with LBJ and the older dems all thought LBJ should get the nomination, and when he didnt they bitched and cried about it. JFK was a great president and would have taken this country and ythe world to new heights of peace and prosperity. but obama is no JFK or RFK or MLK.i think he can be a decent president, def better then bush or mccain but please dont compare him to kennedy.
pat442389 2 years ago 2
If Truman thought Kennedy with over 14 yrs in the Congress was "inexperienced" what the heck would he say today about Obama??? LOL.
RELubber 3 years ago 5
JFK was a hell of a lot better prepared for the Presidency than Obama.
BamaChris 2 years ago 5
exactly how?
billheartyface 2 years ago
JFK had much more experience when he assumed the presidency than Obama did.
BamaChris 2 years ago 2
@BamaChris YOU GOT THAT RIGHT....JACK KENNEDY HAD 14 YEARS IN CONGRESS
norr4636 2 years ago
@billheartyface Jack Kennedy had 14 years in Congress....Obama 3 years but 150 plus working days in the U.S. Senate.
Jack Kennedy WWII hero....Obama (blank), so JFK had more experience than Obama...CASE CLOSED
norr4636 2 years ago
right...."WWII hero"....he wrecked a boat and had someone write "his" book on what a hero he was....give me a break.
billheartyface 2 years ago
@billheartyface Correction...The Japan wreck his boat...thank you for not understanding what happen in August of 1944. If you think Obama wrote his two books than you are a kool aide drinker
norr4636 2 years ago
ah, the old "kook aide" cliche. can't you do better than that?
billheartyface 2 years ago
@billheartyface Well I see you can't answer my questions about what book you're talking about...priceless
norr4636 2 years ago
you've been drinking too much "kook aide". And I think you need to go back and read Profiles in Courage. It's all about how drunken Kennedy wrecked his boat.
billheartyface 2 years ago
@billheartyface Since I have the book of Profiles In Courage, please tell me what page are you talking about. Please stop the drugs because those 5 senators story had nothing to do with his actions in WWII; You can't be that stupid to think Profiles In Courage was about John Kennedy.
norr4636 2 years ago
it was actually 8 senators.
billheartyface 2 years ago
@billheartyface
PT-109 is not mention in Profiles In Courage.....
norr4636 2 years ago
@billheartyface True...Congress honored 5 Senators on recommendation from Jack Kennedy who was chairman of a committee to honor past Senators
norr4636 2 years ago
That may be but Profiles in Courage concerns 8 Senators.
billheartyface 2 years ago
@billheartyface Second...Profiles In Courage wasn't about his actions in WWII dumbass, it was about 5 historic U.S Senators who stood against thier party. Why England Slept was about the weakness of Europe, so what book are you talking about on what a hero he was?
norr4636 2 years ago
We'll miss you on Election Day Mr. Russert
vitoduval 3 years ago 9
Vitoduval:
We'll miss you on Election Day Mr. Russert
AMEN to that!!
Outlaw1257 3 years ago 2
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After that bitch Truman folded
to zionists threats in 1947
to creat Israhell
buddyis12 3 years ago
"I'm sure that we'll have black presidents some day."
-Harry S. Truman
allenchampagne 3 years ago 12
Kennedy was a good speaker and was young.
You can talk about charisma...youth...ideals and all that, but his Presidency was marred.
Addicted to drugs...infidelity....Bay of Pigs..
Charisma is what he had. Clinton had more but was toast for womanizing. Kennedy was lucky...until the Oswald thing.
JohnnyRock2000 3 years ago
Kennedy inherited The Bay of pigs from Ike,its a well known fact,look it up...on "the Google".Lets not forget how he kept a cool head during the cuban missile crisis.
momojojo75 3 years ago
Nope. JFK gave the okay for the Bay of Pigs invasion. I do give JFK credit for getting us out of the mess he created. As Truman said of it, "the presidency will make a man out of any boy." Despite Mr. Truman's near-prophetic hunches, he could not forsee that the presidency could not make a man out of the boy who currently resides at 1600.
You can find sites on the internets that say Elvis Presely is still alive. That don't make it a fact.
allenchampagne 3 years ago
@allenchampagne Sorry the plan for the bay of pigs was done under Ike and Kenendy only approved it after Ike approved the intial plan.
norr4636 2 years ago
right....Kennedy APPROVED it. thanks for undermining your point.
billheartyface 2 years ago
yeah the plan was inherited from ike but more from nixon who was VP and cheif white house executive for matters like this in 59. he was pressumed to be president in '60 were the plan would be taken into action. the cia lied to jfk and instead of publicly blaiming them, kennedy took the hit and his poll #s went up. think about it, a president that admits his errors and tries to correct them, not the 1s today that never admit fault and stay the course no matter how bad things get
pat442389 2 years ago
Alas someone gets it,thank you!
momojojo75 2 years ago
JFk was a great president, how the hell was it marred? because he slept with women?? the public didnt kno about the drugs and he only took them because he had addisons disease and hurt his back in ww2. JFK was great in the missle crises, started the new civil rights laws, started the space program and made it what it is today. the bay of pigs was a shitty CIA plan that failed because they lied to kennedy and instead of blaming them he took the hit publically. your an idiot.
pat442389 2 years ago 2
Hey pat442389 wake up. In November 1961 President Kennedy approved Operation Mongoose, a secret plan aimed at stimulating a rebellion in Cuba that the United States could support. His brother Robert was involved in the plan. He forced Castro to seek stronger military support thus the Cuban Missile crisis is born.
CHJ49 2 years ago
Kennedy was also involved in assassination of President Diem of South Vietnam. Pat442389 this assassination was only 3 weeks before his. Just remember if Kennedy played it straight there would not have been a Cuban Missile Crisis.
CHJ49 2 years ago
I like Harry S. Truman because he stayed true to his common roots and wanted the highest office to stay accesible to ordinary citizens. Regardless of this, the privileged JFK was entirely fit for the job.
jreamer1 3 years ago
""The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew."
- Abraham Lincoln
It worked then and it works now.
JMB312 3 years ago
Thanks JIMB, that was beautiful, I'd never heard that quote before. Few American politicians have been so eloquent, or so capable of embodying the American spirit, as Lincoln and Kennedy.
TroyOi 3 years ago
Give 'Em Hell Harry
justindane123 4 years ago
Give 'Em Hell Harry
justindane123 4 years ago
Awesome! EVERYONE needs to see this
stormtracker99 4 years ago 3