Sony Betamax 950 SuperBeta PRO-X on plasma TV

[philosoma9]

Fantastico vcr !  que nostalgia !

[mikeismad61]

Fantastic to see a 950 running again - ah that motor sound – it brings it all back - hope it’s still going. I had one for a few years – cost me £749.99 and was one of the last ever batch. I understand their a bitch to work on and needed very careful setting up. The C9 wasn’t as sexy and the sound was very poor (being stereo but LOW FI) but I felt had a better picture – had my re-headed twice but gave it away with about 300 beta tapes to a friend (who was a big Beta fan) many years ago

[brybish]

in the uk at the time no one bought video recorders we rented them and VHS was cheaper but the more techy types saw BETA as it was,a better quality system.

please note that BETA as a pro format is still used the betacam tape also digital are used with hdd storage.

[Crossfire44]

the best beta machine ever!

[MustanGT2003]

funny how people picked more storage over better picture quality with betamax and vhs, similar thing with bluray and hd dvd, same performance just one had double storage for double the price

[Riddler95]

You were able to record a DVD to BetaMax?

[macolest]

@Riddler95 yes, with a RCA to BNC adaptor,. Connecting the video and audio outputs from the DVD player to the Beta inputs.

thanks for comment

[dannyjaar]

whats the difference between betamax tapes and betacam ive a slf-30 made by sony and chearch tapes to running this old machine.

here in holland betamax didnt use since the rly 80 vhs won the race

but the picture quality from betamax is mutch better

[bpmagruder]

dude, that is so cool

[newhampshirevideo]

Still own many different Beta decks. Early on, the industrail Beta I had a lot of drop out issues. As a matter course, we would never record on the first few minutes of tape even after the format matured. We have hundreds of Beta I tapes in our archives and most of them still look great. I always loved skip scan and had a Beta Hifi deck when they were first released. The technology was always better than VHS.

[psbilo]

Que tal Macolest, como te va!!!, conseguí un beta, es un sony sl - f60 me lo regaló un vecino, y funciona bien!!, pena que solo tenía una cinta, hace años tiró unas 20 a la basura!!!!, ahora ando buscando cintas por rastrillos, y tiendas de 2ª mano xd!!, esta jodida la cosa!!!!

[ftpaddict]

I adore these outdated mechanical machineries. The more moving parts the better!

[gznubouit]

Super Beta was a bit sharper than Regular Beta. Definately better than VHS, but NOT SuperVHS. When combined with a Ultra high quality tape and the highest speed possible, these looked amazing, for the time. This was obvioulsy not Betacam, but rather B-II. For the record, Hi-8 tapes looked a lot better than this. Cr@p! Even Video-8 tapes looked better than this, when using a high quality tape.

[psbilo]

Has visto el video de 0raffie0, tambien tiene un SB!!!

[macolest]

@psbilo

Si, y ese con todos los leds funcionando! y como suena!

Que lástima que muriera tu V2000, las paginas que me dices si las habia visto tambien varios videos en youtbe, me referia que no he visto en real un V2000.

El mio era de mi tio, y siempre quise uno desde que lo vi con 7 años o asi, finalmente en 2007 conseguí que me lo diera :D!!!

[psbilo]

Cuidalo mucho tío, tienes una joya, yo tengo un V2000, EL VR 2334, pero no enciende, BETAMAX Y V2000 ERAN LOS MEJORES VCR,S

[macolest]

@psbilo que lástima que no te funcione el V2000, nunca he visto uno.

Este betamax lo cuido y cuidaré como una joya!!

espero subir mas vídeos cuando tenga una camara hd para apreciar toda la calidad.

gracias por comentar.

[psbilo]

@macolest Puedes verlos en la pag. PHILIPS VIDEO 2000, y también en esta otra The V2000 Gallery, el mío es el vr 2334, me falló el arrastre, y me ralló 3 cintas, lo lleve al técnico y no tuvo arreglo lo guarde en una caja, con sus cintas y todo, y el sabado al sacarlo para limpiarle el polvo, lo enchufe y no enciende, se murió, pero no lo pieso tirar, para mí es parte de mi pasado lo compraron mis padres en 1984, cuando yo tenía 7 años, costo 145.000 ptas de las de entonces

[philosoma9]

@psbilo Beta y V2000.......Cuando se invente la maquina del tiempo volveremos !

[cloontrooper]

you know what works real good?..watching the dvd.

[guimbadriver]

the picture and sound quality remember of my JVC editing recorder CR850-U

[guimbadriver]

yeah man you make the right thing, betacam tape is the best option in a super beta video recorder like the video tape super vhs and a sony broadcast video tape for super vhs, the last tape the picture quality is superior in all the senses

[Bender1001]

Dang...got lost in watching LOTR there that I totally forgot it was betamax lol.

[HDCAMAN]

Nice!

[rajithaify]

what a wonderful machine. it's a pity they don't make devices as good as this anymore. i wish i had one of those.

[lieckenske]

This is really much better than VHS, why didn't it become so famous?

[Dant2142]

@lieckenske Cost was higher I believe.

[vantageIIx]

@Dant2142 That, and VHS tapes could always record more than Beta tapes.

[yTubeBlowsBigBalls]

@lieckenske Because the electronics for the VHS format was cheaper.

[lieckenske]

@yTubeBlowsBigBalls a pity :)

[Huelva]

@lieckenske Its not that simple, both VHS and Beta had their advantages and disadvantages, Beta was developed from professional grade tapes, hence its better image quality... It didn't become so famous because Sony was quite greedy and held the format rights for themeselves and only a handful of brands, while JVC gave their VHS to more manufacurers, hence its greater popularity

[MRLOL785]

My SL-HF400 Beta has been in my garage for 7 years and I pulled it out today and it still works XD!

[macolest]

Post a video! plz

[MRLOL785]

I don't have any movie making program like iMovie or Windows Movie Maker and I don't have any tape for the beta. I'll try though:)

[MRLOL785]

Judging by the fact that mine was a lower-end machine and it survived, yours probably survive a nuclear bomb lol! Great VCR! 5 stars for a magnifico beta!

[davisneil]

ah yes that was it natsir88....i remeber something about the incompatibility when i worked with Betacam SP all those years ago....i remember also someone telling me you could work round it by using a SP shell and putting 1/2" tape in it...providing you splice foil leader instead of VHS clear leader...or something like that.

[davisneil]

its highly unadvisable to use betacam broadcast tapes on a beta VCR. the oxide is much different and has been known to rip heads to shreds!

[macolest]

thanks for the advice

[hakemon]

I was certain the early Betacam tapes were the same material as Pro-X.

It was the Betacam SP tapes that changed the material of the tape itself.

[deepfreezevideo]

Doesn't matter, the early BetaCam tapes are interchangeable both ways.

For the uninitiated, BetaCam FORMAT is not the same as BetaMax, but both use similar cassettes.

[natsirt88]

Not strictly correct. When Betacam was developed by Sony, the tapes were oxide and able to be used in consumer Betamax machines. When Betacam SP (superior performance) was released in the late 80s, the SP tape formulations being metal particle were too harsh to be used in consumer Betamax machines.

[twocvbloke]

All I can say is, I Want!!! I have a SL-F1UB kit (including the camera!!!) and it's great, but the one in this video is the bees knees!!! :D

[TVperson1]

Did you record a DVD on to the tape?

[macolest]

Yes, this demo was recorded from a DVD

[MetallicBill]

The wide aspect ratio is not found in analog cassettes, that I know of (Anamophic lenses left the image squeezed to the center and looking awful as a result) I record in the B-I speed on the highest end decks I could purchase. Most are still in demand for a price because they offer the most editing features from Beta. The HF1000 is thought to be the best. Sony even has their best EV-S7000 Hi8 deck selling around $700 used!

[thx2468]

Did you tape that film on B I speed? Most machines have B II and B III only. I do love your Betamax. It's a wonderful machine.

[macolest]

This machine is a European PAL model, and hasn't B I, II or III modes, just SP speed (1.8cm/s - like 2cm/s BII mode).

Yeah! it's a brilliant and dreamy machine.

Thx for comment.

[Vladislaw81]

What is the model of the Panasonic plasma panel? And what is the diagonal size?

[macolest]

Panasonic model 37PX70,diagonal size 37".

thanks for view and coment.

[Vladislaw81]

Were any other scalers used, except that in the panel?

[macolest]

No scalers are used, Betamax is directly connected to Plasma TV via BNC to RCA video out

[Vladislaw81]

Well, I tell you, this is something... But how it could be? With only 280 lines.

[pdmillar]

"TV lines" (analog video) are commonly mistaken to be a "pixel" measurement in the digital sense, but actually refer the level of horizontal resolution in one line. Each individual line is a continuous signal, with the amount of detail limited by the available video bandwidth. The vertical resolution of any standard analog video system is always 480 or 576 lines. The analog signal off tape is digitally sampled by the plasma TV's display processor (likely at 720x576) and scaled-up for display.

[kawaiifreak860]

not all analog sets use 480i lines

some of them are lower such as VHS wich is 250 lines.

[pdmillar]

That's exactly the common misconception I was trying to clear up. "250 lines" refers to the number of distinct vertical lines that can be resolved on a test chart (so it is something like a horizontal measurement) but the number of scanlines containing picture information is always around 480/576 (525/625 including the blanking interval and sync.) To look at it another way, the signal you get back from a VHS tape is "blurred" horizontally a bit compared to the original.

[jjovereats]

@kawaiifreak860 VHS is 250 TVL. It is still 483i. So is S-VHS and Beta.

[kawaiifreak860]

@jjovereats

>250TVL = 483i

NOPE

250 TVL = roughly 250 horizontal lines = less 250lines total thus NO it is not 483 lines.

[jjovereats]

@kawaiifreak860 250 HORIZONTAL lines. That's TVL. The vertical lines are to the dimensions of 483, 241.5 per field, 50 fields per second. It can be down to 220TVL, but it's still 483i (or where I am (or was depending on when you read this) 576i).

483 lines would be insane resolution. 220 lines is 333x483i or 333x576i, and 420 lines (Hi8) is 560x483i or 560x576i.

So what you are saying is damningly wrong.

[Vladislaw81]

This is something!..

Roetheperfect, I could not reach your link, please, write it again carefully. It may be interesting.

[macolest]

Just dele the blankspaces in the link

[Roetheperfect]

El Beta max tiene la misma calidad de video y sonido del DVD

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