The Screensavers Van Eck Phreaking

[sonick808]

moot, who uses CRTs anymore (with the exception of Betson monitors in their mame cabinets, and occasionaly for the dreamcast, apple iie, etc ?? If someone runs tempest against me, all their going to see is me playing Wizardry I: proving grounds of the mad overlord on apple iie.

[tonyisgrendel]

isn't this reverse Van Eck Phreaking?

[wdunn1984]

This makes me miss Techtv/zdtv before g4 killed it.

[zpunout]

Great vid! It is like the Commodore 64 demo which uses the video chip to output the sound through the monitor. watch?v=ZW2XKSWUPLw

[101binary101]

Why is it called van Eck phreaking? In 1985 Dutch scientist Wim van Eck published a paper in Computer & Security called Electromagnetic Radiation from Video Display Units: An Eavesdropping Risk?� The paper (available here) details in rough terms how van Eck phreaking can be accomplished.� According to one account, van Eck displayed the effectiveness of his theories by taking a BBC crew around London and showing them what was on the screens of different companies.

[CIAAGENT100]

or... ya know... you could get an lcd?

[sob82]

@CIAAGENT100 "In April 2004 new academic research has revealed that flat panel and laptop displays are also vulnerable to electromagnetic eavesdropping. The required equipment for espionage was constructed in a university lab for less than US$2000"

[jacksawild]

America, a nation built on paranoia. Its the number one export too.

[djsufferthing]

At Cambridge University a security researcher named Markus Kuhn proved this theoretical concept to be fact in 2006. For more information search Wikipedia for 'Van Eck Phreaking,' the link is in the references. Apparently, tuning to a specific monitor is as easy as tuning to a television or radio station. LCD TFT screens are also vulnerable. A very analog hole situation unless you want to invest in some Faraday wallpaper and aluminum foil headwear.

[retepvosnul]

Special Proprietary software ? Is that kiddy slang for myth ?

[rastaban777]

That's not Chaka Khan, it's Cheryl Lynn.

[FreakKeeper]

Actually the Feds (aka CIA) were doing this, Van Ecking, the Russian Embassy back during the late 60's and mid 70's. It was even demonstrated on a 60 Minutes segment during the 80's. You can easily by 30+ yards a way and still pick up a signal.

Another thing, the CIA also did the same thing with computer keyboards and could tell exactly which keys were depressed and in what order.

[LemonPieLoL]

@FreakKeeper the CIA also did mind control experiements and stared at goats for hours because they thought they coulld kill a living creature with the power of their minds. ever seen teh movie 'the men who stared at goats'? - that is based on a true story; stories of men who tried to walk through walls... my point? don't believe everything you read. it was either bullshit or part of the big cold war budget. game theory was a was a particular function for outrageous ideas; just to get ahead.

[importenmypcis]

wow Kevin Rose from diggnation

[kab1970xyz]

Vaya tostón de video !

[N4n069]

All the theoretical concepts they explain on the video are true... but:

1. I really doubt about how far the signal can travel... I doubt its more than a couple meters.

2. About the LCD monitors, I guess the concepts you are talking about are the same that PLC technology uses, and It also makes sense, but again, it would be a pain in the ass, the signal would get a lot of noise from other devices operating at the same frequency (I.E., other similar monitors, etc).

There are better ways to spy.

[Digian]

The real spies use a technology called Remote Viewing. Cheers

[LemonPieLoL]

@Digian HAHAHAHAHA, so how does one demultiplex a microvolt signal on a circuit of 100+ devices, with earth cables that have a kilo ohm resistance rating??? good one tesla... jesus fucking christ, not even a tinfoil hat will save you mate.

[xamn]

This demo is obviously fake. Anyone know of any real demonstrations?

[unlokia]

Not really a demo of Van Eck Phreaking, now was it?!!. Pah - I always laugh at how basic the electronic knowledge is of the average geek. Please - don't show me this crap again, it's elementary high school stuff, beside the point that WE DIDN'T SEE A DEMO!!!!!!.

[DigiTan000]

Yeesh! Who invited Captain Bringdown?

I found it a perfectly good "primer" to RF snooping concepts. Tempest was a nice visual aid, the clear mesh showcased some cool materials engineering, and I suspect I have a new foil hat substrate in my future. Triple threat!

[pyroass22]

lol im reading neal stephensons novel cryptomnomicon and i was just looking to see if van eck phreaking was real

[proberush]

I'm just gonna sit in this box here... Ahh.... Complete security...

[sovietspyguy]

This can be done with flat panel displays as well. It's a bit more complicated but doable, and in fact gives a cleaner image due to the digital nature of the signal.

As long as a piece of equipment emits RF, it will be possible to detect and decipher it.

[dLimboStick]

No. It just took me 5 months to respond. I would post comments on videos and forget about them. I just happened to look at some old replies and found this. I used to do Tempest testing for a defense contractor back in the 80's, so I know from whence I speak.

[dLimboStick]

Um...apparently not, judging by the content of the clip. Tempest wasn't a surveillance program, it was a counter surveillance program.

[kpetree10]

Well I guess it's a good thing CRTs are being used less and less. Long live TechTV!

[Quinstol]

Fascinating stuff with some nice demonstrations. There wasn't that I didn't already know, but nearly all of it would have been new to me when the episode originally aired. Say what you will about TechTV, but the station definitely had its moments ... certainly more worth watching than the Spike TV clone that G4 became.

[dLimboStick]

This is funny. Watching n00bs talking about things they barely understand.

[gecko1986]

CeBIT 2006 / Hanover / Germany / eavesdropping device

[docarrol]

? Of course it's possible to reconstruct the image (not just theoretical). That's why it's named "van Eck", he was the first guy to publish a working proof of concept, back in the mid '90s.

[eboyjr14]

do you have proof for that?

how do you know

[gecko1986]

watch?v=B05wPomCjEY

search for "tempest" or "Wim van Eck"!!

[Gary135791]

Just because you guys don't understand anything more then 2+2, there's no reason to flame it. GTFO.

[wojtuniakfrog]

@Gary135791 U mad bro?

[EdiTiger]

stupid

[SurvivingKevorkian]

It's amazing how alot of you people scoff at this sort of thing. Sad.

[TruthBeyond]

@SurvivingKevorkian They scoff because they over sold the concept used phrases like "mirror image".

[drewmartell]

Lesbian.